Few things: The supposed expert doesn't know that the pure Jews in the BOM were wiped out! Secondly, many Native Americans today came from Asia - the Mongloids and he should know that. Polynesians came from Asia, but not all. There is no reason why Sweet potato can only be found in Aotearoa and other Pacific Islands and PERU, South America, not ASIA. Lapita pottery came from Taiwan, and that Taiwan was a Polynesian Island long before Chinese. Polynesians and Asian aren't related either.
Since Mormonism was established in the 1840s by Joseph Smith along w/ its doctrine, it doesn't really have concrete ancient historical data to determine the genetic makeup of Polynesians & Native Americans. (Oh, those golden tablets Smith found w/ help from god? Always that way isn't it? One is always alone when they see a god, or a burning bush.) I think scientific methods have proven that Polynesians & Native/Meso Indians do not have Hebrew bloodlines. Mormonism is myth.
Fuck this bullshit. This myth was debunked a long time ago. 99% of native americans DO NOT have middle eastern Jewish or Egyptiain DNA. They are from asia is why they have dark skin and the immigrated to north america through alaska.
It's not only polynesians who are lamanites/israelites, it extends to Micronesia, and quite possibly south east asia as well! Hence the similarities. Just the farther west you go the more mixed blood it is.
@mauiboy8705 Shut the hell up man. 99% of these natives dont have israeli or egyptian dna. They are the color they are because they have east asian dna and came through alaska, not on a boat over the pacific from the middle east.
@mauiboy8705 How is that gonna work when DNA has already proven what is? Is God playing games with us making their DNA different or something? lol why would he do that if he wants us to know the truth? Does God lie?
@mauiboy8705 How is that gonna work when DNA has already proven what is? Is God playing games with us making their DNA different or something? lol why would he do that if he wants us to know the truth? Does God lie?
@mauiboy8705 How is that gonna work when DNA has already proven what is? Is God playing games with us making their DNA different or something? lol why would he do that if he wants us to know the truth? Does God lie?
@mauiboy8705 How is that gonna work when DNA has already proven what is? Is God playing games with us making their DNA different or something? lol why would he do that if he wants us to know the truth? Does God lie?
Fact: DNA TESTING CAN ONLY TRACE BACK A THOUSAND YEARS. THE BOOK OF MORMON PEOPLE GO BACK SEVERAL THOUSAND YEARS. There's a youtuber - David Lory -Mormon Family Guy that explains this well.
This is SO FULL OF BEANS!!!! Indians and Polynesians are decedents of Lamanites PERIOD. It'll be a good and sad day when people finally find out the truth about this and completely falsify science. Evidence is hidden to simply test your faith. If your faith relies on evidence, I'm sorry but life isn't going to be great.
The reason no DNA evidence couldt be found is that the polys and Indian Americans are made up of so many groups of people that any Isralite traces would be lost. How do you determine a jew from a gentile anyway. He dosen't explain that, does he? Here's my message for him: GET BACK IN THE SHED!.
this guys full of shit, im samoan i know where my ancestors came from, just by the way we look, i have family members with reddish hair and fair skin and also ones with drak brown skin, ones that look asian and ones that look south american and yes they are full samoans not halfcasts ,so to me its pretty obvious.
Poor people it's allready been proven that our ancestors came from SEA, the proof is DNA (both human, and from plants and animals) , language, culture etc. Thor Heyerdal was wrong, yes they could travel to America, but Hawaiki lies in the west, NOT the east. The native Americans came from Asia too! our ancestors did know and but people today have ''forgotten'', brainwashed by their former colonial powers! Wake up! Asia is more than China, chopsticks, and noodles!
mormons do not know jack shit about DNA and history.They rely on the book of mormon to spead their fairytales worldwide. They are also rather racist and ridiculous!
It's so upsetting that someone else could tell us where we come from. I love the beautiful Pacific Island people, but they look very different from my Native American family. I guess we all look the same to racist white folk, though.
RECLAIM your history. RETELL your stories. You are not cursed!
@ThePurpleSeahorse I CAN ONLY AGREE WITH YOU! POLYNESIANS are not a mixture of white and yellow people....they are an indepandent race of humans and I must say the most beautiful....except cannibalism :) and few wars :) they culture wasrather peaceful....and notmany sicopathas amongs them.....
I do appologize forthis shit told by europeans....sorry!
Can I suggest that you look closer at your indian cousins.Especially the sth american ones and read up on Thor Heyerdhal and his discoveries etc.Youll be surprised.
Polynesians had to have come from somewher b4 they inhabited the islands.Right?Eithr they came from the americas or from Asia but they certainly did not pop up out of the ground all on ther own in the islands now did they???
Even the polys dont know where they came from before settling the islands.Right?Hawaiiki??
that is why are ancestors held this from the missionaries bc they would alter our HIS-tory. our POLYNESIAN people will find the truth thru research in the older generations and also make ur own decision on our HIS-tory... remember its call history for a reason... its HIS story
btw...I like all them journals. u know...them books of that were preserved thru the years. I wish the dinosaurs could write their journal. They probably could straighten the theories of scientists. I just don't want to claim evolution. Does anybody here believe they evolved from a frog, a fish, or an ape? Fill me in, I wanna be entertained. hehehe... relax. I'm enjoying the the flick. I prefer to lean on gold plates. I prefer to remain native
Speak up children. Speak your thoughts. Know that you are descendants of the middle east...know your roots. You are that special. The palagi has had their time to speak. It's your turn. Pleased am I. Mama Silk.
white people created their own religion that elevated them and expressed a Nazi-like superiority over every other peoples...then have the audacity to create "origins" for other races...their god is racist, a bigot, conditional, vengeful, jealous, and no difference to Santa Claus.
just to let people know native american are over 51,000 yrs old. before white man came to be, and on top of that google search puma punku and you'll find out how advancced these building are. asians are not islanders period!!! srry about my typing iam texting while talking to my friend.
religion is false man..fuck them all. the americas are different than the middle east. puma punku is a perfecct example. people being smart asses wont anyone anywhere, their theories.....theories.....
It's so sad when a person's identity is stolen...how much more tragic when an attempt is made to rob an entire culture of its true identity! The Book of Mormon is a fairy tale load of rubbish. Burn your bible and your book of mormon.
@mihappy Along with the " book of abraham" which actually has been proven fake... ! : ) yes it's a fraudulent interpretation of the Papyri and Before a mormon jumps all over me on this one, tell me the mormon apology argument isn't "Joseph Smith received revelation as promoted by his effort & channelling while trying to translating the purchased egyptian hieroglyphs " ?
@mihappy The papyri exists. They're common burial scrolls. You can find scholarly information on them online, and even experts interpreting the copies of them on youtube.
It's one thing to say that Lamanites are your ancestors and quite another to say that Lamanites are your *only* ancestors. There's an interesting article posted in Wikipedia entitled "Genetic Drift" that explains how genetic markers from a particular group of ancestors can disappear from a population in relatively few generations. I'd like to hear someone explain away this phenomenon in their efforts to use DNA to discredit The Book of Mormon.
@manaen1lds Once again your left to argue something that disappeared. Your apologies all have a disappearing theme followed by a fuzzy feeling. Not to be left alone by all the other disappearing evidences that are touted as undeniable evidences. ie: missing artefacts , peoples, places, metals , steel, crops, animals,boats, chariots and language also joins the hard evidence wagon load of gold plates hidden in a hill with the sword of Laban... more like its all Phenomenal magic.
Your logic is sound: I used it to point out the deficiency of some people's DNA claim of proof based upon of the lack of something. I did not claim proof of anything in my comment -- or are you using lack evidence that I claimed such proof to be proof that I did claim it?
@Kesnit Wouldn't God have to change their genetics in order to change their skin color? They would then be genetically different from the Israelites
He actually didnt chang ther DNA.The curse spokn of they actually brought upon themselves thru their own wickedness.The curse was more a spiritual darkness that showed more in ther countenance than ther sun tanned skin.
Abraham fathered the Arabs,Israelites&the Asians, and these r the people who settled in America before the Europeans&Slaves colonized America; and, also, the Islands, (Our Ancesters, The Native Americans settled the Islands of the Pacific before the Europeans&Slaves colonized the Islands, So what ever Mr. Ignorant Simon Southerton comes up with its just a waste of time, his searches its just vanity(rubbish). He needs to get a life.
Everytime i watch this video I laugh at Simon Southerton and his rubbish. The truth will never fail. I was born and raised in Samoa, I know my history, and my ancesters(The Native Americans)settled the Islands way before the Europeans&Slaves got there. The Book of Mormon is indeed the word of God.
You obviously don't know your history then. Because Archaeologists HAVE PROVED that Polynesians came from South-East Asia, read about the Lapita pottery and you will know.
@FobDee What do u know about my history? obviously ur absolutely veryx2 ignorant, Abraham fathered the Asian people, Israelites and the Arabs, and these r the people who settled the Americas before the Europeans and the slave trade, Native Americans r the desendants of the Middle East and the Eastward countries, and again, Middle Eastern, and the Eastward countries which r Israelites, Arabs& the Asians, settled the America before the Europeans& the Africans, then they settled the islands(Poly).
@FobDee Your very ignorant and if u dont want to accept the truth so then thats your problem, it seems to me that you dont want to accept the truth, so its like ur rebellious or retarded. If u dont belie ve the truth then move on because u have nothing to prove. Ur very, very, ignorant, and rebellious its really sad that theres many people like u in the world, just like Simon Southerton and his rubbish. u need to get educate about these important matters.
I don't know whether or not to take you seriously because you obviously can't spell let alone read into your history. Sorry buddy do your research, read into the LAPITA POTTERY and you'll know.
Please point us to the source that says those are Polynesians' ONLY ancestors. (While you're looking for it, note that the "Poly" in "Polynesian" indicates multiple groups).
My Chamorro friend from Guam has Polynesian, British, German, Spanish, and Asian ancestors. The mutineers from HMS Bounty settled with their new Tahitian family members on Pitcairn Island. Hawaii's population is a multinational mix of DNA. Why would POLYnesia be a remarkable exception of a single DNA source?
POLY was derived from the Greek words of Polys/Polis which means MANY and Nesos which means ISLANDS referring to the 3 main groups.
Again, you have been corrected, so I wont even bother trying to prove my point because I am more intellectual. "Micro"nesia which also includes Guam, meaning SMALL Islands. And Melanesia are the Islands where the more majority DARKER skin Islanders hail from. The Lapita pottery traces back to South-East Asia and is actually the only reliable source.
@FobDee I don't want to waste my time with people like u who r lacking knowledge, u r just showing how ignorant and retarded u r. i've explained everything in detail and beside that my grand father is Irish-Jew and grandma is Black-Samoan, my grandpa got to the island thru military and Jewish grandpa taught me well on the Torah and the more i've learned about the Torah, the more knowledge i have and whole hearted believing the Word of God, which is, the Book of Mormon.
@FobDee I don't want to waste my time with people like u who r lacking knowledge, u r just showing how ignorant and retarded u r. i've explained everything in detail and beside that my grand father is Irish-Jew and grandma is Black-Samoan, my grandpa got to the island thru military and Jewish grandpa taught me well on the Torah and the more i've learned about the Torah, the more knowledge i have and whole hearted believing the Word of God, which is, the Book of Mormon.U come up w\dat lupita b.s.
You're obviously uneducated, just look at the way you type, you can't even spell. And you're calling me "retarded" HAHA yeah you're so "Christian-like" obviously using the term Retarded as an offense, shame. The Book of Mormon is a cult. That is all :)
PS. Type in Lapita Pottery on the net and you will know! :)
@FobDee The Lapita pottery traces back to South-East Asia and is actually the only reliable source.
Dont kno bout that.
The kumara is far greater evidence that at least the east polys and maori came from the americas and not asia.East Polys never had or used pottery and that wud seem to totally destroy the pottery scam lol
@FobDee This will be my last comment with people like u, I can't continue to ignorant and retarded people. I'm very thankful to my heavenly Father and Mother for their true Gospel restored back. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints is the only true church, and especially the Book of Mormon is absolutely indeed the Word of God. And u need to move on.
@FobDee lapita is not proof of where polys came from.Ther is no evidence of that pottery in east poly.Yur statmnt is false.Betta go chek out ya own science.Even the archae's who claim it say its only theory and the fact the pots dont exist in Most of Polynesia is a blaringly obvious counter intuitive scientific fact lol
@Londo271 Nah I do... sorry my comment isn't very clear... B.S to the idea that Samoans were direct descended of some "lost" tribe of the Israelite and had direct relation to the Native Americans... LOL...
Mr. Southerton isn't deceitful he is stating biological fact, all the while offering a logical opinion to explain where the belief originated that polynesians are descendants of Lehi. What's the whole point of having faith??? To irrationally cast away doubt.
@htownstizzow Mr. Southerton isn't deceitful he is stating biological fact
No hes not stating fact.And he knows it as he blatantly lies about the BoM and what it actually says with regard to the BoM and its descendants.He ommits information from the BoM that wud destroy his supposed science.
Simon Southerton, is a very deceitful,betrayful individual, his a good actor and a liar, but, its a waste of his time, his unholy,unrepented heart,mind&spirit is already leading him to misery and destruction, later in the long run. And, all these young people, sadly, doesnt know much about our history.Our ancestors from america settled in the islands b4 da europeans&slave trade got there, so, european&africans, culture,tradition&language blend in with th islanders, but, w/r not of europe or afri
Sorry, tried to cut and paste link but does not work. Do a search in Youtube using "Polynesian Discovery" and you'll find the History Channel videos, there are 2 parts.
She never hear of the skin color issue in other books, well she haven't read the Bible yet, the part of Cain and Abel. And the ex-bishop run a DNA test and didn't match...lol .....ha ha. Great video keep the great work,,,you may endering being a mormom.
Con't. .........1st discovered America before Columbus. Amazing DNA testing on chicken bones found in Chile shows the migration of these animals from Tonga and Samoa via Polynesian Voyagers. They have also found human remains and settlements in /off Chile that they are currently studying.
Speaking about navigational and survival skills for bunch of ancient mariners before Europeans, can hardly classify us as decendents of Lamanites=Niggers
people according to LDS teachings. We are blessed.
SFOgrunt, Rapa Nui was not discovered and settled 1st by Native Americans. They are Polynesians. I even met some of them and converse in common Polynesian words with them while in American Samoa during the Paciific Arts Festival 2008.Still enslaved to lies taught by the LDS? Better get your head out of the toilet and smell the fresh air Uso, you're just making a fool out of yourself.
There is research going on today in Chile that may change history, that the Polynesians 1st discovered America.
Its really said that the young generation of my people r not understanding our history (polynesians). God didnt just open the heaven and dropped the people on the rapa nui islands or God just open the heaven and dropped the africans and europeans on the american continent or the israelites and other countries on the american continents, we r not africans or europeans we r the decendants of the native americans period.
Lihi is a location not a person on the bible - and leminite?? thats not even in the Holy bible or even in the original Hebrew text ?? - and why would any islander follow a so called prophet who is a 33 Degree mason ?? - Joseph smith ?? - white people are from Esau - Edomites. but if your white with a black father, then you might be a israelite or a Hamite or a Japhetic person
@vaea46 polynesians are gullible religious fanatics. really, they will believe in anything. I think its in their nature. I'm pretty sure you agree, by your channel name.
Bunch of white racist lies by a polygamous cult group in the wild wild west. We polynesians are not cursed but blessed. Lamanites=Niggers is what your church has taught you. If it stinks get out of it. Its not a joke.......The joke is one those who continue to live this lie. False teachings = False church and false prophets. Have some pride for yourselves.
@CWMaua12 And you are a saint that is capable of performing miracles, and are without a doubt holier than all the world, and will never die because you are not a sinner.
Just kidding! your a brainwashed, mindless sheep who is guilty of spreading blasphemy. Enjoy hell, and have a nice day;)
@SFOgrunt U r one of those rebellious and lost and refused to repent of some wicked life u r living. Its not about the white men, its the truth about our history(polynesians) we r the true descendants of the native americans period, we r not europeans or africans, native american tribes settled the islands of rapa nui, also, a european ship with slaves, during slave trade discovered rapa nui islands on easter sunday, then they change the name to easter islands, u dont know what u r talking about
Did you know that joseph smith was arrested in 1826 for putting seer stones and his face in his hat to con people into thinking he could seek hidden treasure? He 'translated' the book o' moron using this same 'magic' from 1827-1830. Look it up, he also started being a polygamist BEFORE an angel threatened to kill him if he didn't become a polygamist.
He was killed because he married 11 other mens wives, 2-14 year olds, and a total of 33 women in secret.
We as the older polynesian generations, who were born and raised in the islands, please u need to teach the young generation the truth about our ancestors, we r true descendants of the israelites ot america to the islands. im very disappointed that lots of our young people dont know about our history, also, part of our history they need to know is, we r not africans or europeans, but we r now mixed with africans and europeans during slave trade, we need to teach them for Gods sake. come on.
We as polynesians r absolutely x2 true descendants of the native americans period. for Gods sake, yes, we are. africans and europeans came way after and thats how the breeding started. but, we are not africans or europeans. now, most of the island people in general are mixed with europeans and africans, and thats why we have european last names which are our blood,family names, so as myself im mixed, my grandpas irish,jew&my grandmas african&samoan.
Brother Simon Southerton, my advise to u is for u to start to fast and pray again to our Heavenly Father&Mother for to get u out of lucifers mind games, the scriptures said, the demons comes to steal,kill&destroy us. your worldly knowledge will eventually destroy u in the long run if u dont get on ur knees and seek our Heavenly Father&Mothers help.
And later, europeans&africans during slave trade started having relationships with the island people, having children and now thats why most of the polynesians r either darker skins with curley hair or some with brown or hazel eyes withe lighter skins, just like the hespanics the latinos theyre mixed with european&african blood too. and now the latinos adopting several european languages as a primary language, like spanish,portugese,italian,french&english. this bro. needs more researches to do.
No wonder why the scriptures said that knowledge of this world is foolishness before the Lord, this brother and his presentation shows his extreme lack of knowledge. im polynesian, we r absolutely true desendants of the mid east&far east down to america to the islands of rapa nui and continue to scattered all over other islands. this young generation dont know.mid&far east to america to the island, all have similarities of culture,tradition&languages period.
Like other superstitious cultural driven people Polynesians tend to be very gullible. This is why the church has gained so much ground in their islands. This is why the church is growing ( according to mormons) in Africa. Coincidentally, Africa and some pacific nations have lost much due to their gullible acceptance of christianity. History says it all.
@mr41ststreet Every word you say is true. I am black, my parents are from Jamaica, and I would say that the Judeo-Christian path has had a disasterous affect upon my people, but not many blacks seem to be able to see that: they cling to the stuff like an infant child would cling to an old shit stained blanket!!!
I don't know if it matters anymore one day all the pacific islanders will disapear specially for polys and micros look at Hawaii there's know more true Hawaiians just mixtures of Asians whits and a bit of poly
Who cares where we came from. Samoa is our home now, and that is where we pay our liniage to. If they finally make up their minds, about where I, as a Samoan, came from, I would still call myself Samoan. And Samoa would still be my home.
Also, my color does not permit me to enter those gates, everyone should know that. And if you wanna know more about that, then ask me. Merry Christmas everyone!
WHAT the FUCK is wrong with these TRAILER TRASH "theologist" and the like?? They are SO OBSESS with attempting to tell the Native Peoples of the Earth where They SHOULD come "from" RATHER than WHERE they CAME From, jus because thse DEVILS came FROM a HOLE in the Caucasus Mountains like animals, thay are NOW FEEBLY attempting to SWITCH those roles! Well, UP YOURS ARSEHOLE, 'cause it AIN'T WORKING!
First off, which leader of my L.D.S faith said that we Polynesians are descendants of the Lamanites? Get ur facts straight buddy. We are descendants of Nephites. Hagoth the shipbuilder who sailed the seas with people on his ships was a Nephite. These ships sailed westward from the North Americas and was never heard of again. They wanted no part of the war that was going on at that time.
did Hagoth exist? Why the need to allie with Israel. You guys are not from Israel. Maybe Asia, but not Israel. This is what happens when you let white men feed you stories of where he think you came from. Don't be so gullible.
Y-chromosome in DNA from Indians and Polynesians can be traced back to Africa, NGC. There is ancient civilization of black people in Georga dated to be older then Columbus called, "Washitaw". Their are Pyramid Mounds in Mississippi called, "Cahokia" that were cannibals, coincidence? Europeans stated that polynesians were MARRYING and "marrage is religious dated back to Adam and Eve. This guy is probably atheist or religious.
How about that the sweet potatoes was only found in the North and South America, which was discovered by European settlers, who founded the American Continent. With coincidence that very same plant was used by the Polynesians for centuries. You have chosen to view this through science, however you did not not check the factors that caused your discovery. You should look for bones of ancient inhabitants of america and the ancient polynesians, through that you should be able to conclude your ansa
mate, as a scientist you should consider all the factors which can alter your discovery. Now days, the polynesians now are not purely bread neither are the American Indians. All polynesians and american indians are part something just like the palangis, their are many different types genes in every polynesian and American Indian. Have you considered their similar traditions, where tattooing is related in every culture and their symbols are nearly all similar.
just a thought: after hundreds of years of Palagis (european) and Asians raping and murdering our people, who's to say our DNA is at it's original state from when we first populated our islands??? and after the Spanish (once again Europeans) have been raping and murdering the native Americans (Lamanites), who's to say their DNA is at it's original state???
one thing this Palagi idiot forgot to consider is if we ALL come from Adam and Eve then how come my DNA is different from Africans, Asians and everybody else for that matter??? IT'S CALLED "EVOLUTION" GENIUS. You can't prove Bible, Book of Mormon, Holy Quoran, or any other Holy books with science. So why bash the next next mans religion??
Joe Smith and his Mormon fairy tale is small fish! We should concentrate on Martin Luther's (deformation), not reformation. 30.000 protestant faiths and sister religions currently, Mormons, Baptists, Watchtowers, prosperity preachers, etc... all in contradiction with each other! Come back to Rome friends.
@rotena25 THE ORIGINAL MORMONS WERE HAPLOGROUP A,B,C and D FROM WEST EUROASIA DUDE. WHICH WAS FROM MEDITERRANEAN EUROPE, THE CAUCASUS AND WHERE THE EXACT DNA WERE FOUND IN THE NATIVE AMERICANS FROM EAST AND NORTH AMERICA... SO THAT MEANS ALL THE POLYNESIANS HAVE IT, FOR THEY ARE PURE DESCENDANTS FROM THEM.
the LDS(mormon) is brain washing all our native polynesian people.its the white devils(balagi) way to control the whole world and universe included. we must preserve our way of life by takin care of our own and servin our aliki's and own gods.
@waihale NAH IT'S NOT BUDDY, WE ARE DESCENDANTS OF LEHI... A WHITE SCIENTIST NAMED ROD STERVID IS PROVING THAT LEHI FROM THE BOOK OF MORMON IS OF ASIAN DESCENT... THE SAME ASIAN BLOODLINE THAT POLYNESIAN HAVE AND IT'S SHOCKING PEOPLE LIKE THIS CLOWN FACE SIMON EGG! AND THE REST OF THE WHITE PRICKS THAT DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT IT. WE ARE OF WARRIOR AND NOBLE BLOOD. REMEMBER THAT MAN. YEEEEE YAAAAAAH!
You are an awesome native girl, you are more powerful than any lies or religion. Be proud of your native heritage and don't believe mormon non-christian lies. Whites are always gonna attack your heritage. From a proud native american, your true brother.
This is retarded non-chistian ideology, Mormons are clearly identifying their racist beliefs against proud natives and africans. We proud natives are here and will always be here, proud to be brown. God = truth, mormon=religion. God has the sun rise for all people not just mormons. Jesus wasn't a mormon.
wow, this lady in here is ignorant. talking about how gullible polynesians are to believe that we are cursed with "black" skin. Natives are red, polys are brown.none of which are black. the whole curse of "blackness" aka a curse of "soreness" refers to a mark to seperate nephites from lamanites. a mark that we put on ourselves to show our disobedience to the lord. guess what that mark that we put on ourselves was??? Something that we LAMANITES are world reknown for...TATTOOS!!! email me for info
@semisi2uh 'a mark to show our disobedience to the Lord'? Really? Is that how you regard tatau? Tattooing in d islands was pre-existant to any contact with missionaries so how was it ever a mark of disobedience to a entity our people did not even know about? Educate yourself a little bit more on the history of tatau before piggy backing it on the logic of missionaries who were bent on telling us how wrong we were with our ways and now breed a society barely tolerant of the God they introduced.
@segaula220 of course tattooing was on the islands before missionaries sweetard ;) thats because lamanites starting doing it hundreds of years ago, way before missionaries even arrived in the Americas. My point was to help your feeble mind distinquish what the "Curse" meant since nephi didnt elaborate on it, leaving that up to Alma in later chapters. but... seeing how this is youtube, who cares right? LOL google "lamanite tattoo" where a gentlemen further elaborates on the curse.
The book of mormon is nothing but a fairy tale, Polynesian language have nothing in common with those of Israel. But they have plenty in common with the people of Southeast Asia, who happen to have a much more ancient culture than that of the middle east.
When i went to Taiwan, to there national museum i was suprised to see the history of the native people and of the polynesians how they had tribes and two being simiar to ploy's and some others more similar to native Americans, very distinct. I got to meet some of these native mountain people and was quite convinced
Come on Man- Hawaiian People the Mormon Religion is in snaring the our people, their beliefs make no sense, come on man, the special under ware and all that.
Our ancestor's came from Tahati- I do need the White man telling me where I come from. LDS are nice, but wrong and I will bee dammed if I am going to follow the direction of A white man they call Prophet or Bishop-were has listening to the White Man gotten us? Joesph Smith was a Idiot, who was followed by other idiots.
@sarahslayer ignore iuti63 he thinks hes mr religious he doesn't realize that he is judging people and pissing us off. I know Hawaiians are from tahati just ignore him. I wish to apologize for his rudeness most mormons aren't like that
@sarahslayer You speak the truth! We proud Native American's don't believe in fairytales. We believe in the creater of all we experience. "mormon's" have alot to learn from proud native americans.
this fuccin gentile claiming to have love for the descendants of lehi.he leads away the weak minded.we are th lion tribe.the time is at hand.join the movement.
@gaddiantonrobber "Your Movement" indeed, like a bowel movement. The world is learning daily of the violence in Mormonism. Mountain Meadows Massacre and Dozens of other mass murders. A violent hate filled cult that Wants to murder everything disagreeing with it. Go back to your Utah Polygamy caves and Polytheistic gods.
@sarahslayer at least you wipe. do you use the same one, or do you have a huge pile next to your out house? I'm trying to get more detail for my visual. :)
Throughout the years I've made a personal analysis of early Mayan mural paintings and wall inscriptions. The Mayan people of that day were no small people like their descendants, the Amazonian's and other South American tribes.. they were tall and large. In the 1800's North American Indians towered over Europeans that began to take over the land. It makes perfect sense to me as to why many Central and South American indians aren't very tall at all. They are also of Asian descent.
You say you've sought to prove the DNA trace from Native American to Israel and were suprised to find Chinese DNA rather. You know you're absolutely right.. And you are probably aware by now (being a scientist) that in the year 1421Mainland China sailed, docked and dwelt amongst the Precolumbian Natives long before Columbus. Sorry Nehor, where not fools, all the actual proof is there.. we just need to analyze, and understand it for ourselves without someone telling us we're wasting our time..
Who cares if you served in the bishop brick or whatever.. a real leader does not critisize others, only he bears them up. The only reason why you have sought to prove anything is because you miss understood the reasoning behind the scriptures. You say that it was cruel for God to inflict punishment upon man because of his iniquities.. you do understand what I'm talking about.. you are like Nehor and Zeezrom and you will fall as they did.. watch your words..
To those who love to hate, your hate will consume your love until that's all you have left is hate which will demonify you into a demon, like satan & his demons.
To those who want to try to understand through love & kindness, other religions, may more light & knowledge be felt with in your souls as you give others a chance to explain their beliefs. On this issue see:
You Tube: RESTORED APOLOGETICS: Black & White Skins in The Book of Mormon in Light of Ancient Garment Color Symbolism
The1st Girl looks like a monkey da other girl is like a fat loaf...heheh the poofter guy so professed scientist so hypocritical. ''im not against the church but then he says the church needs to stop teaching the ppl''.....ah.....shut up! i know where im from.. u need to stop talking trash about church and the bible... hate it when ppl think they know better then god!
@iuti63 um your mistaken i ment THEY(not me) dont think the mormons should teach they are cursed people descended from iserael or the laminites i didnt say i belive what they do or if i dont belive what there heritage i just understood how they felt that the lds church dosnt have enough evidence to say where they come from.
@blaklazer I have seen the other side of the vail. It can only be seen by the eyes of your spirit, not your natural eyes. and I was wide awake. That to me is much more a testimony then dna, thats just one of many many experences of my life. Reguardless, despite negetivity and vids like this, that will not stop the stone from rolling down the mountain in these last days.
@iuti63 you think I'm not religious and don't believe they are lamanites. i get up every morning and say my prays read my scriptures and live by churches standards. Every week I go to church (the whole 3 hours mind you) and go home and reflect on what I learned. I am a true LDS not some sudo kid who doesn't believe in god. Besides why are you judging me i just said i can see where they are coming from I'm sided with you where i pretty sure they are laminites because the prophet said they were.
Book of Mormon is Egyptian/Jewish blend in language, so it needs to be understood with how these ancients used garment (animal skins) color symbolism. Isa.1:16-20; Rev.3:4-5; 19:8; Jude 23; Eph.4:18; 5:26-27; 6:10-19; Rom.1:16-21; Nahum 2:10; 1 Ne.12:10-11; Alma 5; Jacob 1:19; 2 Ne.1:23. Oxford English Dictionary, Clarendon Press 1933, 9:47, 70, 1614, White, Pure.
Other nations came to Americas, 2 Ne.1:5. Jaredites from Asian lands. Huge Nibley, World of the Jaradites; There Were Jaredites
Samo.: It was translated into King James English, from a language "which consists of the learning of the Jews and the language of the Egyptians," (1 Nephi 1:2). Translated by a white American prophet, Joseph Smith. Written in perhaps demotic or a script commonly used, like on the Lachish Letters, or Jewish name seals that are Jewish names in Egyptian characters. English goes back to Latin, which goes back to Phonesian scripts, which go back to Egyptian demotic type scripts.
David Hatcher Childress: Christ visited the different islands of the sea. "Jesus has visited New Zealand and nearly every place in the world. Christ traveled about the world during his post crucifixion trek, he, according to legends, crossed the Pacific to the Americas, New Zealand, Tahiti, & the Polynesian Islands. (Lost Cities of Ancient Lemuria & The Pacific, (Stelle, Illinois: Adventures Unlimited Press, 1988), 150—51, etc). Book of Mormon testified that Christ visited ancient Americas!
i smell shatt! check ur shoes JustinMartyJr n take ur book of mormon crap out of here... translated my azz lol Joseph Smith is another cowboy hick who been killin native american for da name of mormon...
sfaa.: Joe Smith "killin native american"? What's your sources? Gossip? Hearsay, or your own bull"shatt"?
If your not interested in attempting to understand others' religious beliefs, because of your own prejudices against "cowboy hicks" it's too bad. Cause many of us howlee hicks are attempting to understand more about Polynesian culture. I've lots of Poly friends that I love & respect & we take time to learn from each other, & work out misconceptions too about each others beliefs & ways.
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Few things: The supposed expert doesn't know that the pure Jews in the BOM were wiped out! Secondly, many Native Americans today came from Asia - the Mongloids and he should know that. Polynesians came from Asia, but not all. There is no reason why Sweet potato can only be found in Aotearoa and other Pacific Islands and PERU, South America, not ASIA. Lapita pottery came from Taiwan, and that Taiwan was a Polynesian Island long before Chinese. Polynesians and Asian aren't related either.
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jtmoana 2 weeks ago
What this proves was that Joseph Smith and all that believe him at that time were racist!!!
JSparrow275 3 weeks ago
Since Mormonism was established in the 1840s by Joseph Smith along w/ its doctrine, it doesn't really have concrete ancient historical data to determine the genetic makeup of Polynesians & Native Americans. (Oh, those golden tablets Smith found w/ help from god? Always that way isn't it? One is always alone when they see a god, or a burning bush.) I think scientific methods have proven that Polynesians & Native/Meso Indians do not have Hebrew bloodlines. Mormonism is myth.
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therhytmtherebel 1 month ago
Fuck this bullshit. This myth was debunked a long time ago. 99% of native americans DO NOT have middle eastern Jewish or Egyptiain DNA. They are from asia is why they have dark skin and the immigrated to north america through alaska.
Sorry the BofM is false
liamlloyd77 1 month ago
It's not only polynesians who are lamanites/israelites, it extends to Micronesia, and quite possibly south east asia as well! Hence the similarities. Just the farther west you go the more mixed blood it is.
mauiboy8705 1 month ago
@mauiboy8705 Shut the hell up man. 99% of these natives dont have israeli or egyptian dna. They are the color they are because they have east asian dna and came through alaska, not on a boat over the pacific from the middle east.
liamlloyd77 1 month ago
@liamlloyd77 It's okay, you'll see the truth one day, and then you'll realize I was right, just remember that.
mauiboy8705 1 month ago
@mauiboy8705 How is that gonna work when DNA has already proven what is? Is God playing games with us making their DNA different or something? lol why would he do that if he wants us to know the truth? Does God lie?
liamlloyd77 1 month ago
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@mauiboy8705 How is that gonna work when DNA has already proven what is? Is God playing games with us making their DNA different or something? lol why would he do that if he wants us to know the truth? Does God lie?
liamlloyd77 1 month ago
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@mauiboy8705 How is that gonna work when DNA has already proven what is? Is God playing games with us making their DNA different or something? lol why would he do that if he wants us to know the truth? Does God lie?
liamlloyd77 1 month ago
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@mauiboy8705 How is that gonna work when DNA has already proven what is? Is God playing games with us making their DNA different or something? lol why would he do that if he wants us to know the truth? Does God lie?
liamlloyd77 1 month ago
apostate kaant haha worldly proof over spiritual proof hahaha sillystuff but good for you & your study but i know who i am&where im from thanx
forsakedaworld 2 months ago in playlist Polynesians
The book of Mormon has inaccurate historical accounts but in reality has the Polynesian people really evolved.
molayknight 2 months ago
The polynesians pre-date the isrealites,we were the sailing the seas thousands of years before the Bible was writen.
Nero49er 2 months ago
Fact: DNA TESTING CAN ONLY TRACE BACK A THOUSAND YEARS. THE BOOK OF MORMON PEOPLE GO BACK SEVERAL THOUSAND YEARS. There's a youtuber - David Lory -Mormon Family Guy that explains this well.
MrMFHORN 2 months ago
This is SO FULL OF BEANS!!!! Indians and Polynesians are decedents of Lamanites PERIOD. It'll be a good and sad day when people finally find out the truth about this and completely falsify science. Evidence is hidden to simply test your faith. If your faith relies on evidence, I'm sorry but life isn't going to be great.
yakamanative8 2 months ago
The reason no DNA evidence couldt be found is that the polys and Indian Americans are made up of so many groups of people that any Isralite traces would be lost. How do you determine a jew from a gentile anyway. He dosen't explain that, does he? Here's my message for him: GET BACK IN THE SHED!.
MrMFHORN 3 months ago
@MrMFHORN You tell em!lol The church is true and too bad a lot of people can't stand that.
yakamanative8 2 months ago
this guys full of shit, im samoan i know where my ancestors came from, just by the way we look, i have family members with reddish hair and fair skin and also ones with drak brown skin, ones that look asian and ones that look south american and yes they are full samoans not halfcasts ,so to me its pretty obvious.
wildestwesty 3 months ago
Poor people it's allready been proven that our ancestors came from SEA, the proof is DNA (both human, and from plants and animals) , language, culture etc. Thor Heyerdal was wrong, yes they could travel to America, but Hawaiki lies in the west, NOT the east. The native Americans came from Asia too! our ancestors did know and but people today have ''forgotten'', brainwashed by their former colonial powers! Wake up! Asia is more than China, chopsticks, and noodles!
Gille87 4 months ago
this is retarded. sundaland theory is the strongest evident as of now. HAVAIKI motherland!!!
polynesiebrah 5 months ago
mormons do not know jack shit about DNA and history.They rely on the book of mormon to spead their fairytales worldwide. They are also rather racist and ridiculous!
fusionxx1000 5 months ago
It's so upsetting that someone else could tell us where we come from. I love the beautiful Pacific Island people, but they look very different from my Native American family. I guess we all look the same to racist white folk, though.
RECLAIM your history. RETELL your stories. You are not cursed!
ThePurpleSeahorse 6 months ago
@ThePurpleSeahorse I CAN ONLY AGREE WITH YOU! POLYNESIANS are not a mixture of white and yellow people....they are an indepandent race of humans and I must say the most beautiful....except cannibalism :) and few wars :) they culture wasrather peaceful....and notmany sicopathas amongs them.....
I do appologize forthis shit told by europeans....sorry!
MarcoBocoure 6 months ago
@ThePurpleSeahorse
Can I suggest that you look closer at your indian cousins.Especially the sth american ones and read up on Thor Heyerdhal and his discoveries etc.Youll be surprised.
Polynesians had to have come from somewher b4 they inhabited the islands.Right?Eithr they came from the americas or from Asia but they certainly did not pop up out of the ground all on ther own in the islands now did they???
Even the polys dont know where they came from before settling the islands.Right?Hawaiiki??
jferristube 4 months ago
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@ThePurpleSeahorse but they look very different from my Native American family
So you agree that you come from there or is that statmnt metaphorical?Are you poly?Your statement is very ambiguous.Just wandering.
jferristube 4 months ago
@ThePurpleSeahorse sorry.I think you are native american.Right?
jferristube 4 months ago
that is why are ancestors held this from the missionaries bc they would alter our HIS-tory. our POLYNESIAN people will find the truth thru research in the older generations and also make ur own decision on our HIS-tory... remember its call history for a reason... its HIS story
VanMatt 6 months ago
btw...I like all them journals. u know...them books of that were preserved thru the years. I wish the dinosaurs could write their journal. They probably could straighten the theories of scientists. I just don't want to claim evolution. Does anybody here believe they evolved from a frog, a fish, or an ape? Fill me in, I wanna be entertained. hehehe... relax. I'm enjoying the the flick. I prefer to lean on gold plates. I prefer to remain native
MaryAnnSilikaTonga 6 months ago
Speak up children. Speak your thoughts. Know that you are descendants of the middle east...know your roots. You are that special. The palagi has had their time to speak. It's your turn. Pleased am I. Mama Silk.
MaryAnnSilikaTonga 6 months ago
white people created their own religion that elevated them and expressed a Nazi-like superiority over every other peoples...then have the audacity to create "origins" for other races...their god is racist, a bigot, conditional, vengeful, jealous, and no difference to Santa Claus.
ilindah 6 months ago
"Lamanite Identity"??? What the f****!!!!!!!!!
Rotebuehl1 7 months ago
just to let people know native american are over 51,000 yrs old. before white man came to be, and on top of that google search puma punku and you'll find out how advancced these building are. asians are not islanders period!!! srry about my typing iam texting while talking to my friend.
Tonymiz 7 months ago
religion is false man..fuck them all. the americas are different than the middle east. puma punku is a perfecct example. people being smart asses wont anyone anywhere, their theories.....theories.....
Tonymiz 7 months ago
polynesians are hot
cornjobb 8 months ago
@cornjobb Why thank you ;) lol
808Hea 7 months ago
It's so sad when a person's identity is stolen...how much more tragic when an attempt is made to rob an entire culture of its true identity! The Book of Mormon is a fairy tale load of rubbish. Burn your bible and your book of mormon.
didjesbydan 8 months ago
burn the bible and than you'll be free.
Dx6976208 9 months ago
what a waste of time and money. the book of mormon is fake, fake fake. it doesn't need disproving because it was fabricated
mihappy 9 months ago 2
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@mihappy Just like all the other "holy books".
jess1up 9 months ago
@mihappy Along with the " book of abraham" which actually has been proven fake... ! : ) yes it's a fraudulent interpretation of the Papyri and Before a mormon jumps all over me on this one, tell me the mormon apology argument isn't "Joseph Smith received revelation as promoted by his effort & channelling while trying to translating the purchased egyptian hieroglyphs " ?
kramd1 7 months ago
@kramd1 ... and, by some bizarre mystery (or convenience for the LDS church) the papyrii were nearly completely lost by fire...
mihappy 7 months ago
@mihappy The papyri exists. They're common burial scrolls. You can find scholarly information on them online, and even experts interpreting the copies of them on youtube.
ThePurpleSeahorse 6 months ago
It's one thing to say that Lamanites are your ancestors and quite another to say that Lamanites are your *only* ancestors. There's an interesting article posted in Wikipedia entitled "Genetic Drift" that explains how genetic markers from a particular group of ancestors can disappear from a population in relatively few generations. I'd like to hear someone explain away this phenomenon in their efforts to use DNA to discredit The Book of Mormon.
manaen1lds 10 months ago
@manaen1lds Once again your left to argue something that disappeared. Your apologies all have a disappearing theme followed by a fuzzy feeling. Not to be left alone by all the other disappearing evidences that are touted as undeniable evidences. ie: missing artefacts , peoples, places, metals , steel, crops, animals,boats, chariots and language also joins the hard evidence wagon load of gold plates hidden in a hill with the sword of Laban... more like its all Phenomenal magic.
kramd1 8 months ago
@kramd1
Your logic is sound: I used it to point out the deficiency of some people's DNA claim of proof based upon of the lack of something. I did not claim proof of anything in my comment -- or are you using lack evidence that I claimed such proof to be proof that I did claim it?
manaen1lds 8 months ago
@manaen1lds Lack of evidence is a mormon position.
kramd1 8 months ago
Wouldn't God have to change their genetics in order to change their skin color? They would then be genetically different from the Israelites.
Kesnit 10 months ago
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@Kesnit Wouldn't God have to change their genetics in order to change their skin color? They would then be genetically different from the Israelites
He actually didnt chang ther DNA.The curse spokn of they actually brought upon themselves thru their own wickedness.The curse was more a spiritual darkness that showed more in ther countenance than ther sun tanned skin.
jferristube 4 months ago
Abraham fathered the Arabs,Israelites&the Asians, and these r the people who settled in America before the Europeans&Slaves colonized America; and, also, the Islands, (Our Ancesters, The Native Americans settled the Islands of the Pacific before the Europeans&Slaves colonized the Islands, So what ever Mr. Ignorant Simon Southerton comes up with its just a waste of time, his searches its just vanity(rubbish). He needs to get a life.
CWMaua12 10 months ago
Everytime i watch this video I laugh at Simon Southerton and his rubbish. The truth will never fail. I was born and raised in Samoa, I know my history, and my ancesters(The Native Americans)settled the Islands way before the Europeans&Slaves got there. The Book of Mormon is indeed the word of God.
CWMaua12 10 months ago
@CWMaua12
You obviously don't know your history then. Because Archaeologists HAVE PROVED that Polynesians came from South-East Asia, read about the Lapita pottery and you will know.
FobDee 8 months ago
@FobDee What do u know about my history? obviously ur absolutely veryx2 ignorant, Abraham fathered the Asian people, Israelites and the Arabs, and these r the people who settled the Americas before the Europeans and the slave trade, Native Americans r the desendants of the Middle East and the Eastward countries, and again, Middle Eastern, and the Eastward countries which r Israelites, Arabs& the Asians, settled the America before the Europeans& the Africans, then they settled the islands(Poly).
CWMaua12 8 months ago
@FobDee Your very ignorant and if u dont want to accept the truth so then thats your problem, it seems to me that you dont want to accept the truth, so its like ur rebellious or retarded. If u dont belie ve the truth then move on because u have nothing to prove. Ur very, very, ignorant, and rebellious its really sad that theres many people like u in the world, just like Simon Southerton and his rubbish. u need to get educate about these important matters.
CWMaua12 8 months ago
@CWMaua12
I don't know whether or not to take you seriously because you obviously can't spell let alone read into your history. Sorry buddy do your research, read into the LAPITA POTTERY and you'll know.
FobDee 8 months ago
@FobDee that lapita stuff is hardly scientific proof polys came from asia.
jferristube 4 months ago
@FobDee
Please point us to the source that says those are Polynesians' ONLY ancestors. (While you're looking for it, note that the "Poly" in "Polynesian" indicates multiple groups).
My Chamorro friend from Guam has Polynesian, British, German, Spanish, and Asian ancestors. The mutineers from HMS Bounty settled with their new Tahitian family members on Pitcairn Island. Hawaii's population is a multinational mix of DNA. Why would POLYnesia be a remarkable exception of a single DNA source?
manaen1lds 8 months ago
@manaen1lds
POLY was derived from the Greek words of Polys/Polis which means MANY and Nesos which means ISLANDS referring to the 3 main groups.
Again, you have been corrected, so I wont even bother trying to prove my point because I am more intellectual. "Micro"nesia which also includes Guam, meaning SMALL Islands. And Melanesia are the Islands where the more majority DARKER skin Islanders hail from. The Lapita pottery traces back to South-East Asia and is actually the only reliable source.
FobDee 8 months ago
@FobDee I don't want to waste my time with people like u who r lacking knowledge, u r just showing how ignorant and retarded u r. i've explained everything in detail and beside that my grand father is Irish-Jew and grandma is Black-Samoan, my grandpa got to the island thru military and Jewish grandpa taught me well on the Torah and the more i've learned about the Torah, the more knowledge i have and whole hearted believing the Word of God, which is, the Book of Mormon.
CWMaua12 8 months ago
@CWMaua12 hey im interested in knowing more about the torah and how you obviously make the connection to us polys and the BoM.
thanks
jferristube 4 months ago
@FobDee I don't want to waste my time with people like u who r lacking knowledge, u r just showing how ignorant and retarded u r. i've explained everything in detail and beside that my grand father is Irish-Jew and grandma is Black-Samoan, my grandpa got to the island thru military and Jewish grandpa taught me well on the Torah and the more i've learned about the Torah, the more knowledge i have and whole hearted believing the Word of God, which is, the Book of Mormon.U come up w\dat lupita b.s.
CWMaua12 8 months ago
@CWMaua12
You're obviously uneducated, just look at the way you type, you can't even spell. And you're calling me "retarded" HAHA yeah you're so "Christian-like" obviously using the term Retarded as an offense, shame. The Book of Mormon is a cult. That is all :)
PS. Type in Lapita Pottery on the net and you will know! :)
FobDee 8 months ago
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@FobDee The Lapita pottery traces back to South-East Asia and is actually the only reliable source.
Dont kno bout that.
The kumara is far greater evidence that at least the east polys and maori came from the americas and not asia.East Polys never had or used pottery and that wud seem to totally destroy the pottery scam lol
jferristube 4 months ago
@FobDee This will be my last comment with people like u, I can't continue to ignorant and retarded people. I'm very thankful to my heavenly Father and Mother for their true Gospel restored back. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints is the only true church, and especially the Book of Mormon is absolutely indeed the Word of God. And u need to move on.
CWMaua12 8 months ago
@FobDee lapita is not proof of where polys came from.Ther is no evidence of that pottery in east poly.Yur statmnt is false.Betta go chek out ya own science.Even the archae's who claim it say its only theory and the fact the pots dont exist in Most of Polynesia is a blaringly obvious counter intuitive scientific fact lol
jferristube 4 months ago
BS... we have no connection.
manawashere 11 months ago
@manawashere
Maybe if you recite it quiet enough....you may even believe it.
The only thing you can say is BS...no evidence whatsoever.....
They belong to the big family of whats called Austronesians, these are the
Western Malay-Polynesians: Indonesians(Javanese,Balinese,etc) Malaysians,Filipino's.
The Melanesians: Moluccans, Papua's of Indonesia, Soloman island, Fiji,etc,etc.
There isn't a direct connect like brothers or sisters but they do have a common root.
Londo271 11 months ago
@Londo271 Nah I do... sorry my comment isn't very clear... B.S to the idea that Samoans were direct descended of some "lost" tribe of the Israelite and had direct relation to the Native Americans... LOL...
manawashere 4 weeks ago
Mr. Southerton isn't deceitful he is stating biological fact, all the while offering a logical opinion to explain where the belief originated that polynesians are descendants of Lehi. What's the whole point of having faith??? To irrationally cast away doubt.
htownstizzow 11 months ago
@htownstizzow Mr. Southerton isn't deceitful he is stating biological fact
No hes not stating fact.And he knows it as he blatantly lies about the BoM and what it actually says with regard to the BoM and its descendants.He ommits information from the BoM that wud destroy his supposed science.
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P2BT808 1 year ago
SFOgrunt, Uso thanks for the reply. Yes they brought it to the islands but Christianity is Middle Eastern in Origin.Started in Jerusalem. Cheers
hamogunjafarmer 1 year ago
Simon Southerton, is a very deceitful,betrayful individual, his a good actor and a liar, but, its a waste of his time, his unholy,unrepented heart,mind&spirit is already leading him to misery and destruction, later in the long run. And, all these young people, sadly, doesnt know much about our history.Our ancestors from america settled in the islands b4 da europeans&slave trade got there, so, european&africans, culture,tradition&language blend in with th islanders, but, w/r not of europe or afri
CWMaua12 1 year ago
Sorry, tried to cut and paste link but does not work. Do a search in Youtube using "Polynesian Discovery" and you'll find the History Channel videos, there are 2 parts.
Manuia!
hamogunjafarmer 1 year ago
She never hear of the skin color issue in other books, well she haven't read the Bible yet, the part of Cain and Abel. And the ex-bishop run a DNA test and didn't match...lol .....ha ha. Great video keep the great work,,,you may endering being a mormom.
penstu1967 1 year ago
Here is a good tube by the History Channel on Polynesian Navigators and the Discovery of Polynesia. Manuia!
hamogunjafarmer 1 year ago
Con't. .........1st discovered America before Columbus. Amazing DNA testing on chicken bones found in Chile shows the migration of these animals from Tonga and Samoa via Polynesian Voyagers. They have also found human remains and settlements in /off Chile that they are currently studying.
Speaking about navigational and survival skills for bunch of ancient mariners before Europeans, can hardly classify us as decendents of Lamanites=Niggers
people according to LDS teachings. We are blessed.
hamogunjafarmer 1 year ago
SFOgrunt, Rapa Nui was not discovered and settled 1st by Native Americans. They are Polynesians. I even met some of them and converse in common Polynesian words with them while in American Samoa during the Paciific Arts Festival 2008.Still enslaved to lies taught by the LDS? Better get your head out of the toilet and smell the fresh air Uso, you're just making a fool out of yourself.
There is research going on today in Chile that may change history, that the Polynesians 1st discovered America.
hamogunjafarmer 1 year ago
@hamogunjafarmer huh....islanders believe all the white mans religions...I think you can agree to that.
SFOgrunt 1 year ago
Its really said that the young generation of my people r not understanding our history (polynesians). God didnt just open the heaven and dropped the people on the rapa nui islands or God just open the heaven and dropped the africans and europeans on the american continent or the israelites and other countries on the american continents, we r not africans or europeans we r the decendants of the native americans period.
CWMaua12 1 year ago
Lihi is a location not a person on the bible - and leminite?? thats not even in the Holy bible or even in the original Hebrew text ?? - and why would any islander follow a so called prophet who is a 33 Degree mason ?? - Joseph smith ?? - white people are from Esau - Edomites. but if your white with a black father, then you might be a israelite or a Hamite or a Japhetic person
vaea46 1 year ago
@vaea46 polynesians are gullible religious fanatics. really, they will believe in anything. I think its in their nature. I'm pretty sure you agree, by your channel name.
SFOgrunt 1 year ago
Bunch of white racist lies by a polygamous cult group in the wild wild west. We polynesians are not cursed but blessed. Lamanites=Niggers is what your church has taught you. If it stinks get out of it. Its not a joke.......The joke is one those who continue to live this lie. False teachings = False church and false prophets. Have some pride for yourselves.
Manuia!
hamogunjafarmer 1 year ago
@hamogunjafarmer they equal indians. either way polynesians will be believe in anything a white man tells them. its quite sad.
SFOgrunt 1 year ago
@SFOgrunt U r one of those rebellious and lost and refused to repent of some wicked life u r living.
CWMaua12 1 year ago
@CWMaua12 And you are a saint that is capable of performing miracles, and are without a doubt holier than all the world, and will never die because you are not a sinner.
Just kidding! your a brainwashed, mindless sheep who is guilty of spreading blasphemy. Enjoy hell, and have a nice day;)
solomanspaming 1 year ago
@SFOgrunt U r one of those rebellious and lost and refused to repent of some wicked life u r living. Its not about the white men, its the truth about our history(polynesians) we r the true descendants of the native americans period, we r not europeans or africans, native american tribes settled the islands of rapa nui, also, a european ship with slaves, during slave trade discovered rapa nui islands on easter sunday, then they change the name to easter islands, u dont know what u r talking about
CWMaua12 1 year ago
@CWMaua12 You smokem' CRACK PIPE.
Did you know that joseph smith was arrested in 1826 for putting seer stones and his face in his hat to con people into thinking he could seek hidden treasure? He 'translated' the book o' moron using this same 'magic' from 1827-1830. Look it up, he also started being a polygamist BEFORE an angel threatened to kill him if he didn't become a polygamist.
He was killed because he married 11 other mens wives, 2-14 year olds, and a total of 33 women in secret.
solomanspaming 1 year ago
@CWMaua12 another gullible islander that refuses to see their arrogance in mormonism
SFOgrunt 1 year ago
We as the older polynesian generations, who were born and raised in the islands, please u need to teach the young generation the truth about our ancestors, we r true descendants of the israelites ot america to the islands. im very disappointed that lots of our young people dont know about our history, also, part of our history they need to know is, we r not africans or europeans, but we r now mixed with africans and europeans during slave trade, we need to teach them for Gods sake. come on.
CWMaua12 1 year ago
We as polynesians r absolutely x2 true descendants of the native americans period. for Gods sake, yes, we are. africans and europeans came way after and thats how the breeding started. but, we are not africans or europeans. now, most of the island people in general are mixed with europeans and africans, and thats why we have european last names which are our blood,family names, so as myself im mixed, my grandpas irish,jew&my grandmas african&samoan.
CWMaua12 1 year ago
Brother Simon Southerton, my advise to u is for u to start to fast and pray again to our Heavenly Father&Mother for to get u out of lucifers mind games, the scriptures said, the demons comes to steal,kill&destroy us. your worldly knowledge will eventually destroy u in the long run if u dont get on ur knees and seek our Heavenly Father&Mothers help.
CWMaua12 1 year ago
And later, europeans&africans during slave trade started having relationships with the island people, having children and now thats why most of the polynesians r either darker skins with curley hair or some with brown or hazel eyes withe lighter skins, just like the hespanics the latinos theyre mixed with european&african blood too. and now the latinos adopting several european languages as a primary language, like spanish,portugese,italian,french&english. this bro. needs more researches to do.
CWMaua12 1 year ago
No wonder why the scriptures said that knowledge of this world is foolishness before the Lord, this brother and his presentation shows his extreme lack of knowledge. im polynesian, we r absolutely true desendants of the mid east&far east down to america to the islands of rapa nui and continue to scattered all over other islands. this young generation dont know.mid&far east to america to the island, all have similarities of culture,tradition&languages period.
CWMaua12 1 year ago
Nephites not lamanites....
skinmomz88 1 year ago
Like other superstitious cultural driven people Polynesians tend to be very gullible. This is why the church has gained so much ground in their islands. This is why the church is growing ( according to mormons) in Africa. Coincidentally, Africa and some pacific nations have lost much due to their gullible acceptance of christianity. History says it all.
mr41ststreet 1 year ago
@mr41ststreet Every word you say is true. I am black, my parents are from Jamaica, and I would say that the Judeo-Christian path has had a disasterous affect upon my people, but not many blacks seem to be able to see that: they cling to the stuff like an infant child would cling to an old shit stained blanket!!!
zenileon 1 year ago
Who the heck cares!? Simon go spend your time researching a cure for cancer instead of bashing on the Church.
lemanusamoa 1 year ago
@lemanusamoa bashing? How?
mr41ststreet 1 year ago
I don't know if it matters anymore one day all the pacific islanders will disapear specially for polys and micros look at Hawaii there's know more true Hawaiians just mixtures of Asians whits and a bit of poly
85darson 1 year ago
Who cares where we came from. Samoa is our home now, and that is where we pay our liniage to. If they finally make up their minds, about where I, as a Samoan, came from, I would still call myself Samoan. And Samoa would still be my home.
Also, my color does not permit me to enter those gates, everyone should know that. And if you wanna know more about that, then ask me. Merry Christmas everyone!
DMEN03 1 year ago
WHAT the FUCK is wrong with these TRAILER TRASH "theologist" and the like?? They are SO OBSESS with attempting to tell the Native Peoples of the Earth where They SHOULD come "from" RATHER than WHERE they CAME From, jus because thse DEVILS came FROM a HOLE in the Caucasus Mountains like animals, thay are NOW FEEBLY attempting to SWITCH those roles! Well, UP YOURS ARSEHOLE, 'cause it AIN'T WORKING!
santoshiful 1 year ago
old white men telling all us dark people where we are from...hahaha...makes for a good laugh.
mr41ststreet 1 year ago
Oh and Spencer W. Kimball was almost on his deathbed when he stated that.
blypa 1 year ago
First off, which leader of my L.D.S faith said that we Polynesians are descendants of the Lamanites? Get ur facts straight buddy. We are descendants of Nephites. Hagoth the shipbuilder who sailed the seas with people on his ships was a Nephite. These ships sailed westward from the North Americas and was never heard of again. They wanted no part of the war that was going on at that time.
blypa 1 year ago
did Hagoth exist? Why the need to allie with Israel. You guys are not from Israel. Maybe Asia, but not Israel. This is what happens when you let white men feed you stories of where he think you came from. Don't be so gullible.
mr41ststreet 1 year ago
Y-chromosome in DNA from Indians and Polynesians can be traced back to Africa, NGC. There is ancient civilization of black people in Georga dated to be older then Columbus called, "Washitaw". Their are Pyramid Mounds in Mississippi called, "Cahokia" that were cannibals, coincidence? Europeans stated that polynesians were MARRYING and "marrage is religious dated back to Adam and Eve. This guy is probably atheist or religious.
siomakahele 1 year ago
How about that the sweet potatoes was only found in the North and South America, which was discovered by European settlers, who founded the American Continent. With coincidence that very same plant was used by the Polynesians for centuries. You have chosen to view this through science, however you did not not check the factors that caused your discovery. You should look for bones of ancient inhabitants of america and the ancient polynesians, through that you should be able to conclude your ansa
21tpn 1 year ago
mate, as a scientist you should consider all the factors which can alter your discovery. Now days, the polynesians now are not purely bread neither are the American Indians. All polynesians and american indians are part something just like the palangis, their are many different types genes in every polynesian and American Indian. Have you considered their similar traditions, where tattooing is related in every culture and their symbols are nearly all similar.
21tpn 1 year ago
Who giVes a crap we all came froM gOd tammit!!
Tgang213 1 year ago
samoans are from samoa.From the earth of the islands
stevebrezh 1 year ago
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redsonya100 1 year ago
just a thought: after hundreds of years of Palagis (european) and Asians raping and murdering our people, who's to say our DNA is at it's original state from when we first populated our islands??? and after the Spanish (once again Europeans) have been raping and murdering the native Americans (Lamanites), who's to say their DNA is at it's original state???
ShreccMonstah801 1 year ago
one thing this Palagi idiot forgot to consider is if we ALL come from Adam and Eve then how come my DNA is different from Africans, Asians and everybody else for that matter??? IT'S CALLED "EVOLUTION" GENIUS. You can't prove Bible, Book of Mormon, Holy Quoran, or any other Holy books with science. So why bash the next next mans religion??
ShreccMonstah801 1 year ago
Idiots....Mormans are uneducated brainwashed Morons
BSE4LYFE 1 year ago
@BSE4LYFE YOUR A DICK!
redsonya100 1 year ago
lol, da only thing that miggrated to the islands from south america is da sweet potato or what we call Kumala
Vavauboi 1 year ago
Joe Smith and his Mormon fairy tale is small fish! We should concentrate on Martin Luther's (deformation), not reformation. 30.000 protestant faiths and sister religions currently, Mormons, Baptists, Watchtowers, prosperity preachers, etc... all in contradiction with each other! Come back to Rome friends.
Snotra 1 year ago
So everybody is cursed except for the superior white man huh, typical white supremecy bull. Who ever believes in this mormon crap is an idiot.
rotena25 1 year ago
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redsonya100 1 year ago
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@rotena25 THE ORIGINAL MORMONS WERE HAPLOGROUP A,B,C and D FROM WEST EUROASIA DUDE. WHICH WAS FROM MEDITERRANEAN EUROPE, THE CAUCASUS AND WHERE THE EXACT DNA WERE FOUND IN THE NATIVE AMERICANS FROM EAST AND NORTH AMERICA... SO THAT MEANS ALL THE POLYNESIANS HAVE IT, FOR THEY ARE PURE DESCENDANTS FROM THEM.
redsonya100 1 year ago
the LDS(mormon) is brain washing all our native polynesian people.its the white devils(balagi) way to control the whole world and universe included. we must preserve our way of life by takin care of our own and servin our aliki's and own gods.
waihale 1 year ago
@waihale NAH IT'S NOT BUDDY, WE ARE DESCENDANTS OF LEHI... A WHITE SCIENTIST NAMED ROD STERVID IS PROVING THAT LEHI FROM THE BOOK OF MORMON IS OF ASIAN DESCENT... THE SAME ASIAN BLOODLINE THAT POLYNESIAN HAVE AND IT'S SHOCKING PEOPLE LIKE THIS CLOWN FACE SIMON EGG! AND THE REST OF THE WHITE PRICKS THAT DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT IT. WE ARE OF WARRIOR AND NOBLE BLOOD. REMEMBER THAT MAN. YEEEEE YAAAAAAH!
redsonya100 1 year ago
You are an awesome native girl, you are more powerful than any lies or religion. Be proud of your native heritage and don't believe mormon non-christian lies. Whites are always gonna attack your heritage. From a proud native american, your true brother.
beone011 1 year ago
This is retarded non-chistian ideology, Mormons are clearly identifying their racist beliefs against proud natives and africans. We proud natives are here and will always be here, proud to be brown. God = truth, mormon=religion. God has the sun rise for all people not just mormons. Jesus wasn't a mormon.
beone011 1 year ago
wow, this lady in here is ignorant. talking about how gullible polynesians are to believe that we are cursed with "black" skin. Natives are red, polys are brown.none of which are black. the whole curse of "blackness" aka a curse of "soreness" refers to a mark to seperate nephites from lamanites. a mark that we put on ourselves to show our disobedience to the lord. guess what that mark that we put on ourselves was??? Something that we LAMANITES are world reknown for...TATTOOS!!! email me for info
semisi2uh 1 year ago
@semisi2uh 'a mark to show our disobedience to the Lord'? Really? Is that how you regard tatau? Tattooing in d islands was pre-existant to any contact with missionaries so how was it ever a mark of disobedience to a entity our people did not even know about? Educate yourself a little bit more on the history of tatau before piggy backing it on the logic of missionaries who were bent on telling us how wrong we were with our ways and now breed a society barely tolerant of the God they introduced.
segaula220 1 year ago
@segaula220 of course tattooing was on the islands before missionaries sweetard ;) thats because lamanites starting doing it hundreds of years ago, way before missionaries even arrived in the Americas. My point was to help your feeble mind distinquish what the "Curse" meant since nephi didnt elaborate on it, leaving that up to Alma in later chapters. but... seeing how this is youtube, who cares right? LOL google "lamanite tattoo" where a gentlemen further elaborates on the curse.
-Bless up
semisi2uh 1 year ago
The book of mormon is nothing but a fairy tale, Polynesian language have nothing in common with those of Israel. But they have plenty in common with the people of Southeast Asia, who happen to have a much more ancient culture than that of the middle east.
subangdako 1 year ago
When i went to Taiwan, to there national museum i was suprised to see the history of the native people and of the polynesians how they had tribes and two being simiar to ploy's and some others more similar to native Americans, very distinct. I got to meet some of these native mountain people and was quite convinced
jjaacckkssdd 1 year ago
beware the white man he speaks with forked tongue...Native Americans know him all too well.
bombertheelephant 2 years ago
Come on Man- Hawaiian People the Mormon Religion is in snaring the our people, their beliefs make no sense, come on man, the special under ware and all that.
Our ancestor's came from Tahati- I do need the White man telling me where I come from. LDS are nice, but wrong and I will bee dammed if I am going to follow the direction of A white man they call Prophet or Bishop-were has listening to the White Man gotten us? Joesph Smith was a Idiot, who was followed by other idiots.
sarahslayer 2 years ago
jesus was a european recreation of an egyptian idol The fag king james and some of his friends wrote the bible yet u take it as fact hah i pitty u
Sojaofdapepo 2 years ago
@sarahslayer ignore iuti63 he thinks hes mr religious he doesn't realize that he is judging people and pissing us off. I know Hawaiians are from tahati just ignore him. I wish to apologize for his rudeness most mormons aren't like that
blaklazer 1 year ago
@sarahslayer You speak the truth! We proud Native American's don't believe in fairytales. We believe in the creater of all we experience. "mormon's" have alot to learn from proud native americans.
beone011 1 year ago
this fuccin gentile claiming to have love for the descendants of lehi.he leads away the weak minded.we are th lion tribe.the time is at hand.join the movement.
3 nephi 20:16
gaddiantonrobber 2 years ago
I wipe my you know what with the Book of Morman
sarahslayer 2 years ago
wow based on what you typed you dont seem to smart or you are a fob.either way sarahslayer you a dumb fucc and are of no use to our movement.
gaddiantonrobber 2 years ago
@gaddiantonrobber "Your Movement" indeed, like a bowel movement. The world is learning daily of the violence in Mormonism. Mountain Meadows Massacre and Dozens of other mass murders. A violent hate filled cult that Wants to murder everything disagreeing with it. Go back to your Utah Polygamy caves and Polytheistic gods.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
@sarahslayer at least you wipe. do you use the same one, or do you have a huge pile next to your out house? I'm trying to get more detail for my visual. :)
iuti63 1 year ago
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gaddiantonrobber 2 years ago
Throughout the years I've made a personal analysis of early Mayan mural paintings and wall inscriptions. The Mayan people of that day were no small people like their descendants, the Amazonian's and other South American tribes.. they were tall and large. In the 1800's North American Indians towered over Europeans that began to take over the land. It makes perfect sense to me as to why many Central and South American indians aren't very tall at all. They are also of Asian descent.
Kaifefine 2 years ago
You say you've sought to prove the DNA trace from Native American to Israel and were suprised to find Chinese DNA rather. You know you're absolutely right.. And you are probably aware by now (being a scientist) that in the year 1421Mainland China sailed, docked and dwelt amongst the Precolumbian Natives long before Columbus. Sorry Nehor, where not fools, all the actual proof is there.. we just need to analyze, and understand it for ourselves without someone telling us we're wasting our time..
Kaifefine 2 years ago
Who cares if you served in the bishop brick or whatever.. a real leader does not critisize others, only he bears them up. The only reason why you have sought to prove anything is because you miss understood the reasoning behind the scriptures. You say that it was cruel for God to inflict punishment upon man because of his iniquities.. you do understand what I'm talking about.. you are like Nehor and Zeezrom and you will fall as they did.. watch your words..
Kaifefine 2 years ago
You criticise without understanding. I don't like what I have heard so far but I am willing to hear more:)
YazminMarsters 2 years ago
yet ANOTHER Tall Mormon Tail....... FUCK THE LDS CULT
TonyPstunts 2 years ago
To those who love to hate, your hate will consume your love until that's all you have left is hate which will demonify you into a demon, like satan & his demons.
To those who want to try to understand through love & kindness, other religions, may more light & knowledge be felt with in your souls as you give others a chance to explain their beliefs. On this issue see:
You Tube: RESTORED APOLOGETICS: Black & White Skins in The Book of Mormon in Light of Ancient Garment Color Symbolism
JustinMartyrJr 2 years ago
The1st Girl looks like a monkey da other girl is like a fat loaf...heheh the poofter guy so professed scientist so hypocritical. ''im not against the church but then he says the church needs to stop teaching the ppl''.....ah.....shut up! i know where im from.. u need to stop talking trash about church and the bible... hate it when ppl think they know better then god!
leerockali 2 years ago
well i can see were there coming from.
blaklazer 2 years ago
@blaklazer if u could c where they're coming from, then u could see they are dumb. did u not sence that? if not then u fall into the same mind set.
iuti63 1 year ago
@iuti63 um your mistaken i ment THEY(not me) dont think the mormons should teach they are cursed people descended from iserael or the laminites i didnt say i belive what they do or if i dont belive what there heritage i just understood how they felt that the lds church dosnt have enough evidence to say where they come from.
blaklazer 1 year ago
@blaklazer I have seen the other side of the vail. It can only be seen by the eyes of your spirit, not your natural eyes. and I was wide awake. That to me is much more a testimony then dna, thats just one of many many experences of my life. Reguardless, despite negetivity and vids like this, that will not stop the stone from rolling down the mountain in these last days.
iuti63 1 year ago
@iuti63 you think I'm not religious and don't believe they are lamanites. i get up every morning and say my prays read my scriptures and live by churches standards. Every week I go to church (the whole 3 hours mind you) and go home and reflect on what I learned. I am a true LDS not some sudo kid who doesn't believe in god. Besides why are you judging me i just said i can see where they are coming from I'm sided with you where i pretty sure they are laminites because the prophet said they were.
blaklazer 1 year ago
@blaklazer your crazy
ryanboyd72yahoo 1 year ago
This has really made me wanna drink some Kava and look deep into my soul-- to find where the hell I come from
dazloman 2 years ago
Can we say Bots?
The Book Of Mormon says that Polys are brown because we are cursed. Every Polynesian Mormon can take that shit to the bank...
SamoaMoSamoa537 2 years ago
Book of Mormon is Egyptian/Jewish blend in language, so it needs to be understood with how these ancients used garment (animal skins) color symbolism. Isa.1:16-20; Rev.3:4-5; 19:8; Jude 23; Eph.4:18; 5:26-27; 6:10-19; Rom.1:16-21; Nahum 2:10; 1 Ne.12:10-11; Alma 5; Jacob 1:19; 2 Ne.1:23. Oxford English Dictionary, Clarendon Press 1933, 9:47, 70, 1614, White, Pure.
Other nations came to Americas, 2 Ne.1:5. Jaredites from Asian lands. Huge Nibley, World of the Jaradites; There Were Jaredites
JustinMartyrJr 2 years ago
Egyptian/Jewish?
I could have sworn it was written by a white American...
SamoaMoSamoa537 2 years ago
Samo.: It was translated into King James English, from a language "which consists of the learning of the Jews and the language of the Egyptians," (1 Nephi 1:2). Translated by a white American prophet, Joseph Smith. Written in perhaps demotic or a script commonly used, like on the Lachish Letters, or Jewish name seals that are Jewish names in Egyptian characters. English goes back to Latin, which goes back to Phonesian scripts, which go back to Egyptian demotic type scripts.
JustinMartyrJr 2 years ago
Okay, fairplay, I obviously don't know enough about the Book Of Mormon to hold any kind of argument lol
SamoaMoSamoa537 2 years ago
David Hatcher Childress: Christ visited the different islands of the sea. "Jesus has visited New Zealand and nearly every place in the world. Christ traveled about the world during his post crucifixion trek, he, according to legends, crossed the Pacific to the Americas, New Zealand, Tahiti, & the Polynesian Islands. (Lost Cities of Ancient Lemuria & The Pacific, (Stelle, Illinois: Adventures Unlimited Press, 1988), 150—51, etc). Book of Mormon testified that Christ visited ancient Americas!
JustinMartyrJr 2 years ago
i smell shatt! check ur shoes JustinMartyJr n take ur book of mormon crap out of here... translated my azz lol Joseph Smith is another cowboy hick who been killin native american for da name of mormon...
sfaatamalii 2 years ago
sfaa.: Joe Smith "killin native american"? What's your sources? Gossip? Hearsay, or your own bull"shatt"?
If your not interested in attempting to understand others' religious beliefs, because of your own prejudices against "cowboy hicks" it's too bad. Cause many of us howlee hicks are attempting to understand more about Polynesian culture. I've lots of Poly friends that I love & respect & we take time to learn from each other, & work out misconceptions too about each others beliefs & ways.