NOTE TO TRADUCIANISTS: The term "baby" in the English language is defined in the dictionary, both in it's historical etymology and current use, as referring to a post-birth infant, not a fetus. just in case there is any confusion, it is also defined that way by the AMA, international law, the UN and every other international and legal organization excepting the Vatican. [The primary current day sponsor of Neo-Traducianism heresy] Consequently, comments to the contrary are sectarianism only.
The Reich "Doctor" George Tiller attacked the Lutheran Church defiling it with his immorality. It is good that a law abiding citizen committed a late term abortion on him. Scott Roeder is unjustly being held and charged with murder. How can he be charged with murder for killing a non-person? This is absurd. No one is charged with murder for killing an animal. I guess the Reich officials can use any trumped up charges to prosecute someone.
@YHWHisSovereign The term "baby" in the English language is defined in the dictionary, both in it's historical etymology and current use, as referring to a post-birth infant, not a fetus. just in case there is any confusion, it is also defined that way by the AMA, international law, the UN and every other international and legal organization excepting the Vatican. [The primary current day sponsor of Neo-Traducianism heresy] Consequently, comments to the contrary are sectarianism only.
Tiller killed healthy unborn children--capable of living outside the womb--and he did it for the mother's "mental" health, never for her physical health. So unless 100% of Tiller's late term abortions are due to incest or rape (and we know that's less than 5% on all surveys) then Tiller was killing healthy children for the convenience of the mothers, not due to their physical health or due to a defect in the baby. And he was making millions doing this.
Review the abortion statistics on the Kansas Dept of Health and Environment site. Tiller's late term abortions were almost always performed when there was NO threat of death to the mother and NO medical emergency present. Most were performed on VIABLE, HEALTHY unborn children. In particular review the partial birth abortion stats from 98 and 99. Note how 100% were performed for the mother's "mental" health--never for her physical health.
Good!-I'm glad he is dead!! He chose to kill human life!-sure maybe he did save a couple and thats fine-but all the babies that arent breathing due to this guy deserve some payback! He knew he was killing and kept on killing! They shouldve strung him up downtown! This should send a message to any doc's performing abortions that arent related to the preservation of the mothers life!
. Life does not "begin" at conception, obviously. You admitted that the sperm and the egg are alive so you can't say "begins" if it is already alive. You might say it changes at that point but when it divides from 2 cells to 4 cells it also changes, and so on. Conception is an arbitrary point in the life cycle, no more important than any other.
What is really important is this: We are more than the other animals and can CHOOSE when to give birth.
Apparently this abortionist's love of monumental and obscene profits did justify, for him, the murder of thousands of perfectly healthy, viable unborn children.
@tolivr So, a legal medical procedure done with the health of the woman in mind is justification for outright murder? Money has nothing to do with a woman coming to this man in need of a procedure to save her life. No one has the right to interfere in her decision. You couldn't be more wrong.
Louisiana was virtually all Democrat until the 80s. There are still some good conservative and centrist Democrats here, do not confuse them with our super liberal Sen Mary Landrieu, her weasel brother the Lt. Gov, and a few others. You don't know anything about Louisiana politics, bud, so don't make a fool of yourself any more than you already have on the Bible.
If there were any Muslims in New Orleans after the levees broke they were Black Muslims looting big screen TVs
No, you and your kind advocate that a unique human being is part of a woman's body and her choice to dowith as she wants. It isn't, she is the guardian of this new life until it is able to exist outside of her womb. It is not part of her body, it is her child to grow, nurture and protect. hughster is correct, so much outrage over waterboarding 3 pieces of filth and loud music or keeping the poor prisoners at GITMO awake, but slaughtering innocents is okay.
So the female, once she is pregnant, is no longer human. Her sole purpose is to give birth and if she does not, then it's your job to start the up with the death threats, the bombings and the murders.
I never said that or anything resembling that. If you read my posts and interpreted anything close to that crap you are a blithering idiot. Motherhood is a beautiful thing, and the bond lasts a life time. This refers to women who understand that the contents of their uteri are not inert blobs
of tissue but living growing complex creatures.
I have stated before that it is wrong to take the law into ones own hands. Abortion is legal, no matter how disgusting I find it.
You fell into the trap---the bad guys, such as the Moslem poltroons killing and bombing all across the Globe, proffer that they are doing the will of Allah or any number of such gods . You Anti-Aborts and the Moslems are 'kissing cousins'--to be sure. "God appointed me"-----------where's the contract, Jack?
I may be a bit neurotic but I am no psycopath horu. As I devout Catholic I have vowed to perform certain deeds, which include spiritual works of mercy. One of these is to instruct the ignorant. The proof is in the Bible, when John the Baptist lept in his mother's womb upon her hearing the news that her cousin Mary would be the mother of Christ. These are children. I will spread this message until the day I die.
@stephenkingrocks - As a devout Catholic, you should understand the history of the Traducianist heresy, and how it came to control the Vatican, and why you now insist on definitions of "human life" that are (a) not Biblical in origin (b) not Apostolic and (c) not historic, legal or etymological. But none of this will matter to you. And that is what should really be of concern to you. The Babe did not leap because IT heard, it leaped because of the "joy" (adrenaline) of the mother Lu1:44
"Should a man have 100 children and live many years, ... still if he has not the full benefit of his goods or if he is deprived of burial, of this man I proclaim that the child born dead is more fortunate than he" New American Bible
1) Does not say aborted in either version. Suggests stillborn
2) Suggests that the "thing" was a child before it was born dead
As for the legal definition of when life begins, it depends on the state in which you live. In many states the murder of a pregnant woman can result in prosecution for double murder, if the fetus also dies. Why you persist in your bias against 40 week gestation human beings, who are able to live outside their mother's uteri, shows your own stubborn pigheadedness. You must be a lawyer or a member of the ACLU.
From Luke 1:44 For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy. Just one example.
What do you call a 40 week gestation being that is hanging out of the birth canal by about 95% or more? You do realize that the abortionist has to get the baby in a breach position, deliver the legs, body, arms, and keep the head from coming out? if the head should slip out the child is born, then what? They shove the heads back in.
Also to you brainwashed fucking idiots, I am from Lousiana and after Katrina i didnt see any atheists or muslims in the street helping folks out, rescuing them from rooftops and bringing them food, that was Churches, CHRISTIAN CHURCHES from all over the US. The only fucking libtards i saw were looting hippies and Hollywood leftists there for a photo op, so you assholes talk a good game about being for the little guy and fighting the "Religous Reich" , but we all know u r fake and help no one.
What the hell is the deal with Liberals hating on Christians? Let me tell you a little secret, the asshole that killed Tiller was not a real Christian, anyone who would murder, much less in a church cannot claim to be religous. I also know that even though i am a Christian that i am NOT JESUS! So to all you haters, pissoff.
So apparently the horrors of late term abortion do not bother the Lutheran Church. They accepted this murderer of babies into their congregation. Hard to understand.
There is no excuse for his killer; no one can take the law into his own hands.
great video, it pisses me off that the fools that call themselves christian just follow what their pastor or priest tell them just like robots and never check their bible. today christians only read what their 'leader' tells them to and understand it through his interpretation, this is not religion, this is foolishness, indoctrination and quite frankly anooying and irritating that people today in 2009 would choose to not use their brains, they are not living, they are just programmed robots
Thank you for the video ObamaComma. And thanks for your well spoken comments.
Well score another hit for the murdering pro-life hypocrites. Right wing propaganda achieves it's goal again. Fools blindly following self righteous fools. And again the instigators will not be held accountable. They are as much guilty as the man who pulled the trigger.
NOTE TO TRADUCIANISTS: The term "baby" in the English language is defined in the dictionary, both in it's historical etymology and current use, as referring to a post-birth infant, not a fetus. just in case there is any confusion, it is also defined that way by the AMA, international law, the UN and every other international and legal organization excepting the Vatican. [The primary current day sponsor of Neo-Traducianism heresy] Consequently, comments to the contrary are sectarianism only.
ObamaComma 7 months ago
The Reich "Doctor" George Tiller attacked the Lutheran Church defiling it with his immorality. It is good that a law abiding citizen committed a late term abortion on him. Scott Roeder is unjustly being held and charged with murder. How can he be charged with murder for killing a non-person? This is absurd. No one is charged with murder for killing an animal. I guess the Reich officials can use any trumped up charges to prosecute someone.
YHWHisSovereign 8 months ago
@YHWHisSovereign The term "baby" in the English language is defined in the dictionary, both in it's historical etymology and current use, as referring to a post-birth infant, not a fetus. just in case there is any confusion, it is also defined that way by the AMA, international law, the UN and every other international and legal organization excepting the Vatican. [The primary current day sponsor of Neo-Traducianism heresy] Consequently, comments to the contrary are sectarianism only.
ObamaComma 7 months ago
The army action of USA in Iraq was a real terrorist action!
ericking20081 1 year ago
what does this have to do with obama... other then obama being an Abortion supporter...
DruidicRifleman 1 year ago
Tiller killed healthy unborn children--capable of living outside the womb--and he did it for the mother's "mental" health, never for her physical health. So unless 100% of Tiller's late term abortions are due to incest or rape (and we know that's less than 5% on all surveys) then Tiller was killing healthy children for the convenience of the mothers, not due to their physical health or due to a defect in the baby. And he was making millions doing this.
The man was despicable.
tolivr 1 year ago
Review the abortion statistics on the Kansas Dept of Health and Environment site. Tiller's late term abortions were almost always performed when there was NO threat of death to the mother and NO medical emergency present. Most were performed on VIABLE, HEALTHY unborn children. In particular review the partial birth abortion stats from 98 and 99. Note how 100% were performed for the mother's "mental" health--never for her physical health.
tolivr 1 year ago
Good!-I'm glad he is dead!! He chose to kill human life!-sure maybe he did save a couple and thats fine-but all the babies that arent breathing due to this guy deserve some payback! He knew he was killing and kept on killing! They shouldve strung him up downtown! This should send a message to any doc's performing abortions that arent related to the preservation of the mothers life!
Jeenyus1983 1 year ago
. Life does not "begin" at conception, obviously. You admitted that the sperm and the egg are alive so you can't say "begins" if it is already alive. You might say it changes at that point but when it divides from 2 cells to 4 cells it also changes, and so on. Conception is an arbitrary point in the life cycle, no more important than any other.
What is really important is this: We are more than the other animals and can CHOOSE when to give birth.
horusisjesus2 2 years ago
These right-wing terrorists celebrate murder and death - even invading a church service to commit their despicable crimes.
proudfootz 2 years ago
May God have mercy on his soul.
3stanthony 2 years ago
Google "Kansas abortion statistics" for the official State of Kansas Dept of Health and Environment stats on abortions.
Tiller performed 1928 LATE TERM abortions from 04 to 08.
According to the LA Times, he charged $6000 for each.
1928 x $6000 = $11,568,000 for 5 years of late term abortions only.
He performed late term abortions for 36 yrs, averaging 350 per year
$6000 x 350/yr x 36 yrs = $75,600,000
and OVER 98% HAD NO DEFECTS
tolivr 2 years ago
Does this justify murder? Idiot!
tombeardman 1 year ago
@tombeardman
Apparently this abortionist's love of monumental and obscene profits did justify, for him, the murder of thousands of perfectly healthy, viable unborn children.
tolivr 1 year ago
@tolivr So, a legal medical procedure done with the health of the woman in mind is justification for outright murder? Money has nothing to do with a woman coming to this man in need of a procedure to save her life. No one has the right to interfere in her decision. You couldn't be more wrong.
tombeardman 1 year ago
8:39-8:49 LOL!
TwistedOrgasmicRage 2 years ago
Hosea 13:16 or 14:1 (RCC) is the definitive passage. If "ripping open pregnant women" by JC Himself isn't more brutal than an abortion, nothing is.
lumpagogo 2 years ago
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Scott Roeder is my HERO for killing Dr. Tiller the "Baby Killer"!
If you had to kill someone who was trying to kill your child the "law" would say you were justified.
But they enact "law" to protect "doctors" like Tiller who murdered over 60,000 babies.
As long as the "law" continues to protect murderers like Tiller then people need to break the law and commit murder to stop this genocide.
While Tiller burns in HELL, watch this video, the TRUTH on Abortion: watch?v=zDtUqImGjeg
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webxsuccess 2 years ago
Louisiana was virtually all Democrat until the 80s. There are still some good conservative and centrist Democrats here, do not confuse them with our super liberal Sen Mary Landrieu, her weasel brother the Lt. Gov, and a few others. You don't know anything about Louisiana politics, bud, so don't make a fool of yourself any more than you already have on the Bible.
If there were any Muslims in New Orleans after the levees broke they were Black Muslims looting big screen TVs
stephenkingrocks 2 years ago
No, you and your kind advocate that a unique human being is part of a woman's body and her choice to dowith as she wants. It isn't, she is the guardian of this new life until it is able to exist outside of her womb. It is not part of her body, it is her child to grow, nurture and protect. hughster is correct, so much outrage over waterboarding 3 pieces of filth and loud music or keeping the poor prisoners at GITMO awake, but slaughtering innocents is okay.
Hypocrite
stephenkingrocks 2 years ago
Hey s-rockie:
So the female, once she is pregnant, is no longer human. Her sole purpose is to give birth and if she does not, then it's your job to start the up with the death threats, the bombings and the murders.
Who the Hell appointed you?
lumpagogo 2 years ago
I never said that or anything resembling that. If you read my posts and interpreted anything close to that crap you are a blithering idiot. Motherhood is a beautiful thing, and the bond lasts a life time. This refers to women who understand that the contents of their uteri are not inert blobs
of tissue but living growing complex creatures.
I have stated before that it is wrong to take the law into ones own hands. Abortion is legal, no matter how disgusting I find it.
God appointed me
stephenkingrocks 2 years ago
stevie-rockie:
You fell into the trap---the bad guys, such as the Moslem poltroons killing and bombing all across the Globe, proffer that they are doing the will of Allah or any number of such gods . You Anti-Aborts and the Moslems are 'kissing cousins'--to be sure. "God appointed me"-----------where's the contract, Jack?
Hosea 13:16 (14:1 RCC)
lumpagogo 2 years ago
tsephenkingrocks said - "god appointed me"
Oh, so you admit you're a psychopath, that explains everything you say.
horusisjesus2 2 years ago
I may be a bit neurotic but I am no psycopath horu. As I devout Catholic I have vowed to perform certain deeds, which include spiritual works of mercy. One of these is to instruct the ignorant. The proof is in the Bible, when John the Baptist lept in his mother's womb upon her hearing the news that her cousin Mary would be the mother of Christ. These are children. I will spread this message until the day I die.
stephenkingrocks 2 years ago
@stephenkingrocks - As a devout Catholic, you should understand the history of the Traducianist heresy, and how it came to control the Vatican, and why you now insist on definitions of "human life" that are (a) not Biblical in origin (b) not Apostolic and (c) not historic, legal or etymological. But none of this will matter to you. And that is what should really be of concern to you. The Babe did not leap because IT heard, it leaped because of the "joy" (adrenaline) of the mother Lu1:44
ObamaComma 7 months ago
"Should a man have 100 children and live many years, ... still if he has not the full benefit of his goods or if he is deprived of burial, of this man I proclaim that the child born dead is more fortunate than he" New American Bible
1) Does not say aborted in either version. Suggests stillborn
2) Suggests that the "thing" was a child before it was born dead
stephenkingrocks 2 years ago
@stephenkingrocks - Also says it was better. The point you are missing.(On purpose)
ObamaComma 7 months ago
As for the legal definition of when life begins, it depends on the state in which you live. In many states the murder of a pregnant woman can result in prosecution for double murder, if the fetus also dies. Why you persist in your bias against 40 week gestation human beings, who are able to live outside their mother's uteri, shows your own stubborn pigheadedness. You must be a lawyer or a member of the ACLU.
stephenkingrocks 2 years ago
From Luke 1:44 For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy. Just one example.
What do you call a 40 week gestation being that is hanging out of the birth canal by about 95% or more? You do realize that the abortionist has to get the baby in a breach position, deliver the legs, body, arms, and keep the head from coming out? if the head should slip out the child is born, then what? They shove the heads back in.
They're babies, ass
stephenkingrocks 2 years ago
I consider myself a Far-Right Guy
I am a veteran
I am not an extremist
I served my country
And i will say this from my own Point of View. I didnt like Dr. Tiller for many reasons. 1 he broke the law by not reporting child rape to the police
2 he covered up incest and didnt report it to the police
3 I will say that even though i do not agree with what he did. I condemn the Person who killed Dr.Tiller
That is all i have to say
Wardog687 2 years ago 2
fuck that bastard and fuck the guy who shot him
fuck pro life and fuck pro choice
sspzkpfwvi 2 years ago
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New INFO: The suspects wife left him years ago in fear for herself and child.
Before he was an anti-abortion freak, he was on some anti-government, anti-tax self sovereignty kick and got caught with bomb components.
But rather than take the Tim McVeigh route to reich wing martyrdom, he joined the anti-abortion American Taliban terrorists.
His own brother described him as a mental case.
This murder will spur a push back. No doubt now that abortion rights will remain forever
vonKressenstein 2 years ago
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It's now been reported that the suspects wife left him years ago in fear for herself
Before he was an anti-abortion freak, he was on some anti-government, anti-tax self sovereignty kick and got caught with bomb components.
But rather than take the Tim McVeigh route to reich wing martyrdom, he joined the anti-abortion American Taliban terrorists.
His own brother described him as a mental case.
This murder will spur a push back. No doubt now that abortion rights will remain forever
vonKressenstein 2 years ago
Thank's a lot Right-Wing nut heads. This will only set your dumb asssss agenda even backwards. Dumb assssessss.
Bababoooooey
HowardSternn 2 years ago 4
Also to you brainwashed fucking idiots, I am from Lousiana and after Katrina i didnt see any atheists or muslims in the street helping folks out, rescuing them from rooftops and bringing them food, that was Churches, CHRISTIAN CHURCHES from all over the US. The only fucking libtards i saw were looting hippies and Hollywood leftists there for a photo op, so you assholes talk a good game about being for the little guy and fighting the "Religous Reich" , but we all know u r fake and help no one.
Bleazy225 2 years ago
What the hell is the deal with Liberals hating on Christians? Let me tell you a little secret, the asshole that killed Tiller was not a real Christian, anyone who would murder, much less in a church cannot claim to be religous. I also know that even though i am a Christian that i am NOT JESUS! So to all you haters, pissoff.
Bleazy225 2 years ago
So apparently the horrors of late term abortion do not bother the Lutheran Church. They accepted this murderer of babies into their congregation. Hard to understand.
There is no excuse for his killer; no one can take the law into his own hands.
I however will not mourn the abortion doctor.
stephenkingrocks 2 years ago
I love how religion is used so broadly..for no thought as to how religion OUGHT to be defined...
Religion should not be defined by the few zealots who are hypocrites of their own 'faith'.
In Christianity, it is a sin to murder...it doesn't list 'exceptions' to the rule.
blandinthebasement 2 years ago
great video, it pisses me off that the fools that call themselves christian just follow what their pastor or priest tell them just like robots and never check their bible. today christians only read what their 'leader' tells them to and understand it through his interpretation, this is not religion, this is foolishness, indoctrination and quite frankly anooying and irritating that people today in 2009 would choose to not use their brains, they are not living, they are just programmed robots
AuDacitYofTruTh 2 years ago 2
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obama the baby killer!
ashken79 2 years ago
Thank you for the video ObamaComma. And thanks for your well spoken comments.
Well score another hit for the murdering pro-life hypocrites. Right wing propaganda achieves it's goal again. Fools blindly following self righteous fools. And again the instigators will not be held accountable. They are as much guilty as the man who pulled the trigger.
tonemenolc 2 years ago