They actually have class for this craps? Dude, I thought these kind of jobs pay the minimum wage. I once have a few experience at J.C. but mostly metal press. It's kind of repetitive..like folding paper. Maybe J.C. shouldn't have let me go..hahaha. I thought these professions are robotics/mass production fields...you know assembly language and some other crappy programming languages of the past.
Well done! not many people could do this. A lot of people leaving school these days just seem to know how to do drugs and vandalism. Watch out for stiffness in the guideways as steppers lose torque when "sprinting". I can remember a nasty machine fault "cranks oversize after a wheel dress" but after three or four oversize cranks the rest of the batch would be OK until the next wheel dress! Fault was neglect and rusted iron dust. Had to get makers in to avoid the lazy fitters striking!
I can see from the comments that you changed the lead screws to ball screws. Did you manage to get these from stock or were they made to the length you need or just buy stock screws and get end ends machined to your needs?
Seriously though, Nice work on the conversion ! I have an enco mill like that ... on e of these days maybe it will get some steppers on it Time and money permitting ;-)
why leave the hand wheels on?? take the nuts off so you can let the little servos/steppers have an easier day. in case u really need them(power break-down lol) you may always slide em back on. hand wheels produce a lot of inert mass which needs to be moved back and forth;-)
Very interesting, appears that you are moving the spindle via motor rather than the head. Unusual for a CNC but the only option on a round column machine. Have you run into problems or limitations with this configuration?
Machines have been called CNC machines long before computers existed. Hydraulic, pneumatic, vacuum tube and electronic logic circuits were controlling CNC machines during WWII.
The use of the acronym CNC has been similar to the the use of the DVD which started as Digital Video Disk, and someone once tried to turn into Digital Versatile Disk to mean that it wasn't meant only for video.
I bet one day CNC will mean something like Cybernetic Neural Command.
DVD means Digital Versatile Disk not Digital Video Disk, You have it the wrong way around. It was first designed for computer backup on WORM drives (Write Once Read Many). It was only later that it's ability to store digital video content was realised and explored, then perfected. As it was more widespread as dvd video many people made the mistake that dvd video came first. Inlcuding you.
Well, cheapest is not always the best option. Many of the Chinese Mills can be converted by you if you want to take the time and effort to do so. I suggest selecting a decent mill, then converting the ACME screws to ballscrews (a big job), then work on the motor mounts and continue from there. If you stop at that point, at least you will still have a good manual mill you can use.
@wazii6 easy at your home, just build it, it will cost what ever you use to make it :D homemade should be for challenging your self. try with an old printer :D
Did you change the lead screws to ball screws? These machines usually have so much play in the lead screws I don't see how it would be accurate without changing to ball screws.
I'd love to see some more videos of this. What was the hardest part of your build may I ask? I've ordered my mini mill, now I'm just contemplating how to build the rest of it.
Mounting the motors and pulleys was the hardest. The mill is very robust and easy to modify with another, small mill. Luckily I have another, small mill to make the parts. The ballscrews and nuts were the easier than I expected.
Yes, the geared-head Harbor Freight unit. $999 on sale. When it first came out I would always see guys staring at it in H.F. I found myself doing the same and had to buy it.
Very nice! That is a great set up. Hell I don't even have DRO's on my old mill. I was considering buying a cheap set but, now that I have seen your set-up, I think I will just go a little further and jump to home-made CNC.
What kind of proximity sensors are you using if you don't mind me asking?
Do you actually have a 9-5 job in CNC or is this a hobby? I`m starting a 5 months course in CNC 2 days in class and 2 days on a CNC machine. Is 5 months enough to land a good paying job in CNC? Their going to teach me shop math, G-codes, and train me on a machine
What I am wondering is what program could a person use to do this and how hardware is connected, this would be an open loop system obviously but are rotary encoders used or just stepped motor with counted impulses??? yah im interested lol
The software used here is MACH3 by Artsoft, costs about $150.00. Stepper motors are cheap, about $50.00 ea. You usually have to put together your own combination of off the shelf stepper drivers and power supply. Easy to find more info via Google.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Why do you call it a Home made Machine? You did not build the mill. You just converted it to CNC. Not quite the same. I can put a remote start on a Vette....that doesn't mean I built a r/c Corvette.
That was incredible! You know what would be funny - put a sensor on the door to that room and a small light aimed at the table so if someone comes in at night the machine spells out "You're next". A little burst of coolant would make the letters all drippy like blood... What size collet do you use with a Bic pen?
You must be one of those "crazy nerd guy who's going to take over the world some day" guys. I love the fact that you turned a piece of shit chinese crap tool into an automated accurate piece of machinery. Kudos.
wow thats amazing,
you've created a machine that draws on a piece of wood with a pen,
you keep going at this rate and you could move up to crayons and cardboard.
VerticalNoodles 2 months ago
123
sietevicio 4 months ago
you are awesome!!
franky1pro1 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Thumbs down:-/ Video About Nothing...
MrGejmer 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
What kind of electeonics?
I have a 15 year old enco milli, may I convert to Cnc? Where did you get the parts,
Thanks!
Tepan4d@hotmail.com
tepan4d 9 months ago
I have a program that has all 26 letters and 0-9 numbers... How much do you think that is worth??
PimpXXXGuitarist 9 months ago
I'm jealous though...
PimpXXXGuitarist 9 months ago
Your tool is flexing a bit ; ]
PimpXXXGuitarist 9 months ago
@PimpXXXGuitarist thats what she said lol
rbneville 9 months ago
@rbneville ROFLmMFAO who is this? That is EXACTLY what I would have said
PimpXXXGuitarist 9 months ago
@PimpXXXGuitarist Great minds think alike? ahahah
rbneville 9 months ago
cool
fabyiros 1 year ago
how long did it take you to make this ?
brad3y 1 year ago
The sound reminds me of an old Sci Fi movie!
illbeda1974 1 year ago
They actually have class for this craps? Dude, I thought these kind of jobs pay the minimum wage. I once have a few experience at J.C. but mostly metal press. It's kind of repetitive..like folding paper. Maybe J.C. shouldn't have let me go..hahaha. I thought these professions are robotics/mass production fields...you know assembly language and some other crappy programming languages of the past.
UnitedPebbles 1 year ago
Need to make a aluminum pen holder from aluminum on a lathe :) Then no more bending haha
diyengineer 1 year ago
that's pretty insane, and it really pays to automate *if* you can, and you can
roofy2k 1 year ago
Well done! not many people could do this. A lot of people leaving school these days just seem to know how to do drugs and vandalism. Watch out for stiffness in the guideways as steppers lose torque when "sprinting". I can remember a nasty machine fault "cranks oversize after a wheel dress" but after three or four oversize cranks the rest of the batch would be OK until the next wheel dress! Fault was neglect and rusted iron dust. Had to get makers in to avoid the lazy fitters striking!
techdavey1000 1 year ago
get you cpu away from the machine the dust will destroy it
tcrusader 1 year ago
nice job mate! ;)
Evangelos1991 1 year ago
Nice!
RUSSSELLLLL 1 year ago
pretty creative :D
xXDominoXx 1 year ago
nice job xD
broerbreaker9240Z 1 year ago
this is soooo cool omg i hope i'll be able to do something like that one day great job man
vip3rboy 1 year ago
This machine have two problems.
1. Need Antibacklash screw.
2. Pen is fit in wrong way. Pen slightly bend when X,Y axis is move.
123hikid 1 year ago
CNC Music Factory
shawbros 1 year ago
I can see from the comments that you changed the lead screws to ball screws. Did you manage to get these from stock or were they made to the length you need or just buy stock screws and get end ends machined to your needs?
1113562 1 year ago
Hey what would you charge me to build one of these?
brokerwebsites 1 year ago
Very cool. Nice work. Dave.
1903A3shooter 1 year ago
great job
77videoman 1 year ago
Careful so those handles don't hit you in the nuts. It hurts
BADFISHHHHHH 1 year ago 2
@BADFISHHHHHH
CNC = Computer Nut Cruncher LOL
Seriously though, Nice work on the conversion ! I have an enco mill like that ... on e of these days maybe it will get some steppers on it Time and money permitting ;-)
freghard 1 year ago
why leave the hand wheels on?? take the nuts off so you can let the little servos/steppers have an easier day. in case u really need them(power break-down lol) you may always slide em back on. hand wheels produce a lot of inert mass which needs to be moved back and forth;-)
snake9510 1 year ago
They are off now. That was "day one" in testing. I needed them on to move things around.
cooknwithgas 1 year ago
haha awsome :)
ripozi01 1 year ago
hehe what spindle speed u used?
nero81 1 year ago
Comment removed
rimanophin 2 years ago
Great work!
No reason to discard an old milling machine just because it wasn't programmable. MAKE IT PROGRAMMABLE!
Congrats.
SoaringHoosier 2 years ago
Comment removed
SoaringHoosier 2 years ago
what a waste of time and money. why convert a milling machine to operate a pen
dgwbuildwright 2 years ago
The guy is obviously just testing the machine.
SoaringHoosier 2 years ago
Very interesting, appears that you are moving the spindle via motor rather than the head. Unusual for a CNC but the only option on a round column machine. Have you run into problems or limitations with this configuration?
mdocod 2 years ago
that's just a XY scan... not a CNC machine..
molinobeer 2 years ago
Any machine controlled by a computer IS a CNC machine:
Central
Numerical
Control
SoaringHoosier 2 years ago
that's not the point...
molinobeer 2 years ago
Try Computer Numerical Control
rimanophin 2 years ago 4
Machines have been called CNC machines long before computers existed. Hydraulic, pneumatic, vacuum tube and electronic logic circuits were controlling CNC machines during WWII.
The use of the acronym CNC has been similar to the the use of the DVD which started as Digital Video Disk, and someone once tried to turn into Digital Versatile Disk to mean that it wasn't meant only for video.
I bet one day CNC will mean something like Cybernetic Neural Command.
SoaringHoosier 2 years ago 2
Your right there automatic machines before CNC's. those were NC's not CNC's
The first C in cnc has alway meant Computer.
rimanophin 2 years ago 5
or Cybernetic Nucular Catastrophe.
kuru2k9 2 years ago
DVD means Digital Versatile Disk not Digital Video Disk, You have it the wrong way around. It was first designed for computer backup on WORM drives (Write Once Read Many). It was only later that it's ability to store digital video content was realised and explored, then perfected. As it was more widespread as dvd video many people made the mistake that dvd video came first. Inlcuding you.
wordfreason 2 years ago
how can i buy this controller
sombu65 2 years ago
with money
molinobeer 2 years ago
SICK! I love it man...I know you've prolly been asked a ZILLION times, but what software are ya runnin? I SOOoooo need to build a mini cnc....
theGHETTOMAN1 2 years ago
that is one awesome machine mate.... i have a mill on the may and i will eventually convert it to cnc
Chooky308 2 years ago
you sir have way to much time and money on your hands..... VERY cool though!
ricks73eb 2 years ago 2
wear can i buy the cheapest homemade cnc machen
wazii6 2 years ago
Well, cheapest is not always the best option. Many of the Chinese Mills can be converted by you if you want to take the time and effort to do so. I suggest selecting a decent mill, then converting the ACME screws to ballscrews (a big job), then work on the motor mounts and continue from there. If you stop at that point, at least you will still have a good manual mill you can use.
cooknwithgas 2 years ago
@wazii6 easy at your home, just build it, it will cost what ever you use to make it :D homemade should be for challenging your self. try with an old printer :D
wsanriv 1 year ago
wow u know ur shit if its 1 thing i know nothing about its computer stuff
bignick01dakota 2 years ago
what software you are using???
ossanches 2 years ago
MachIII for the mill control and BobCad for making the drawings and G-code.
cooknwithgas 2 years ago
Did you change the lead screws to ball screws? These machines usually have so much play in the lead screws I don't see how it would be accurate without changing to ball screws.
kingmike40 2 years ago
Yes. I changed out the ACME screws and nuts to Ball nuts and ball screws. Absolutely no play now.
cooknwithgas 2 years ago
Geezus H Christ there are some talented people out there. Amazing work and effort.
r32adt3db 2 years ago
Very kind. Thank you.
cooknwithgas 2 years ago
Wow! I was wondering if this could be done! Excellent job! Keep it up!
ninja750rider 2 years ago
Nice job. I like how compact you made the motor-couplings. Please post the amps and torque rating of the servos/steppers.
jurban1997 2 years ago
Thats amazing, 5 stars
Dieselolds 2 years ago
That looks deadly accurate for something you threw together!
HiNtZzZ 2 years ago
That was genius. you are the man
CUBITO71 3 years ago
oh great cicles
ripcurl010 3 years ago
for your safety and that of your computer you might want to encase the mill
vizionzofspace12 3 years ago
Ha i love the fact that the handles are still on, seems like a ghost driving it.
TopGunMan 3 years ago
WOW very impressive!!! very nice
durobib 3 years ago
That was Kool! Only manual Z axis? Whut size ball point pen did you use? And how big the spacing?
RobbindaNegus 3 years ago
I'd love to see some more videos of this. What was the hardest part of your build may I ask? I've ordered my mini mill, now I'm just contemplating how to build the rest of it.
cjshull 3 years ago
Mounting the motors and pulleys was the hardest. The mill is very robust and easy to modify with another, small mill. Luckily I have another, small mill to make the parts. The ballscrews and nuts were the easier than I expected.
cooknwithgas 2 years ago
Hey that's really clever!
Nice video and five stars.
jaycek 3 years ago
thats pretty dangerous with the handle turning around
maximebob001 3 years ago
Yes, that handle is a pain. It actually falls off a lot. I usually take it off after setting Zero but when I forget, it will fall off.
cooknwithgas 2 years ago
wow! impressive that you managed to cnc a round column... Very nice machine. thats the harborfreight one correct?
regards
rteyber12 3 years ago
Yes, the geared-head Harbor Freight unit. $999 on sale. When it first came out I would always see guys staring at it in H.F. I found myself doing the same and had to buy it.
cooknwithgas 2 years ago
i'm going to make one!
jeabo0adhd 3 years ago
Very nice! That is a great set up. Hell I don't even have DRO's on my old mill. I was considering buying a cheap set but, now that I have seen your set-up, I think I will just go a little further and jump to home-made CNC.
What kind of proximity sensors are you using if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks for sharing and thanks for the incentive.
HemiHotRod 3 years ago
zajebiste :)))
dIlocha 3 years ago
Very Very Cool.
Curious, do you think from being in the room while that's working that the handwheel's inertia might make the stepper motor not track well ?
WinkenBlinkenAndNod 3 years ago
i use the zmill in my technology systems class. its in Computter Numarical Control module.
carveriscool 3 years ago
Do you actually have a 9-5 job in CNC or is this a hobby? I`m starting a 5 months course in CNC 2 days in class and 2 days on a CNC machine. Is 5 months enough to land a good paying job in CNC? Their going to teach me shop math, G-codes, and train me on a machine
delacerdaa 4 years ago
It's just for fun - a hobby. I am a mechanical engineer for a living. I just like stuff like this. Never stop learning.
cooknwithgas 3 years ago
Nope. Just an interest and to see if I could do it. It was a lot of fun but not cheap. The parts are expensive.
cooknwithgas 2 years ago
VERY INTERESTING -- WOW I could build something like this -- teach me man --Very Smart
FUTUREFIGHTER 4 years ago
you can do it by learning programing
for examlpe the circle is made with this wheels turning on sin(x) and cos(x)
learn programing.
get the hardware and do the job
:D
arkara87 4 years ago
What I am wondering is what program could a person use to do this and how hardware is connected, this would be an open loop system obviously but are rotary encoders used or just stepped motor with counted impulses??? yah im interested lol
snoose1976 4 years ago
The software used here is MACH3 by Artsoft, costs about $150.00. Stepper motors are cheap, about $50.00 ea. You usually have to put together your own combination of off the shelf stepper drivers and power supply. Easy to find more info via Google.
tsport100 4 years ago
Is that pen high speed or carbide?
funwithatheism 4 years ago 3
I'm pretty sure it's a spherical endpen.
Partspare 4 years ago
jejeje, very funny... I guess is a laser pen (joking)
combatzonepaintball 4 years ago
It is neat, but how are yoy checking the accuracy?
funwithatheism 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Why do you call it a Home made Machine? You did not build the mill. You just converted it to CNC. Not quite the same. I can put a remote start on a Vette....that doesn't mean I built a r/c Corvette.
NickMonteleone 4 years ago
although true, all he needs to do is stick a dremel on the end of it.
savagekiller986 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
fuck you pkk
paniq5757 4 years ago
wow is that real
kkbose 4 years ago
This is just too awesome, I wish I had the talent to make a machine like that, haha.
pilaratwork 4 years ago
Nice retrofit.
"If you know what a dremel tool is, you are probably one of my subscribers" - The Fabricator
AmericanFabricator 4 years ago
Wow...nice job giving that old dril a new purpose in life.
zataraz 4 years ago 2
very cool
hadrians 4 years ago
I have a cnc kit like yours that I got on ebay.
I only have 5" of Y-axis travel! How much Y-axis travel does your's have?
machine travel
MAS5270 4 years ago
What did you use to connect the belts to the x and y handles? I have the same mill and spare steppers motors.
tsport100 4 years ago
What control board did you use for this?
elsalvadortube 4 years ago
That was incredible! You know what would be funny - put a sensor on the door to that room and a small light aimed at the table so if someone comes in at night the machine spells out "You're next". A little burst of coolant would make the letters all drippy like blood... What size collet do you use with a Bic pen?
vacuumtuube 4 years ago
Looks and sounds funny. Well done.
criscros7 4 years ago
You must be one of those "crazy nerd guy who's going to take over the world some day" guys. I love the fact that you turned a piece of shit chinese crap tool into an automated accurate piece of machinery. Kudos.
jesuschristo073178 4 years ago
Hey, we chinese don't make shit crap, well we didn't, until people started selling fake stuff (food mainly) that was shit
rcheliboy 4 years ago
there are a lot of more inexpensive products from china that are crap. go look in walmart. everything they sell is crap.
on the other hand they make some very nice things as well. some machinery, and carbon fiber bikes.
neutron7 4 years ago
hehe, its quite spooky to see the mill handles move round like that
hoarp001 4 years ago
**x-file theme starts**
ResidentPhysco 4 years ago
That's normal in most manual machining machines that have automatic features. Still cool to watch tho.
Can you tell us how much money and time went into this project? I'd like to eventually build something like this for my garage.
TrailChaser 4 years ago
what size oz/inch motors do you run with this table sise.
roohunts 4 years ago
I believe they are 480 oz/inch motors.
cooknwithgas 4 years ago