Well our community across America is not very well organized! The community has been moved to the back of the bus! Yes everyone! Black, white, red, yellow,brown and all community members in and across America! We need to fire our bus driver Obama! He cannot drive? You can stay on his bus and be happy in the back of the bus or you can fire him before he drives you off the cliff! Thankyou. James Sasse.
Alinksy dedicated the book to his last wife Irene. In the two epigrams prior to the one mentioning Lucifer, which make it clear (in context) that all Alinsky was saying was that his book can also be used for evil and to enslave people as well as for good and to liberate them (as you’d expect from someone who had just quoted Rabbi Hillel and Thomas Paine). When Alinsky mentions that Lucifer should be regarded “over-the-shoulder”, it’s a clear biblical allusion to “get thee behind me Satan”
@Templar777 : I'm just telling you that he dedicated the book to his wife, Irene. Believe Rush if you want. After all, he's the one who convinced you that libs always spin, so when they refute him, his flock will say, "spin, spin, spin" - quite brilliant actually. Gotta give him credit. But I am speaking fact. The book was dedicated to Irene. Rush Limbaugh is lying, plain and simple. Pick up a copy and see for yourself.
I am no fan of Obama as I believe both Dems and Conservative are running the same scam. Saul Alisnsky might have influenced Obama, but to say that Obama was under his leadership just blows my mind!
You are hopelessly dishonest and intellectually incapable! Imbecile!
@truthkills45 You said " I believe both Dems and Conservative are running the same scam." a comment which displays utter stupidity. You are obviously not only influnced by Alinsky and liberalism, but must worship satan in some perverted way as Alinsky did. You would just as well have said "I believe black is the same as white"
The point is that Alinsky died in 1972 ans this liar Rush said that Obama worked under his leadership! How old was Obama when he started organizing or doing whatever?
Same scam= Running deficits, bailing buddies in Wall Street, waging wars that enrich their friends, working for Corporate America while enlightened imbeciles like you keep up with the partisanship
@truthkills45 Leadership:A person who has commanding authority or influence . You're right idiot. Influence is a large part of leadership. It's called "SEMANTICS"...Look it up. I win. No Cookie for you. End of thread. Bye.
If it were up to the left, he would be off the air, along with any other dissenting voices against socialism....Luckily for us, the Left wont be in power for long :)
I searched for Saul Alinsky and found this. I must admit I don't like Rush but I had to agree with him this time. That commie Bolchevik Alinsky was some dirty bass turd and was what you call a domestic enemy of the United States of America's Constitution. Imagine dedicating your book and worshiping Lucifer? Now the rotten parasites are in the White House.
Alinksy dedicated the book to his last wife Irene. In the two epigrams prior to the one mentioning Lucifer, which make it clear (in context) that all Alinsky was saying was that his book can also be used for evil and to enslave people as well as for good and to liberate them (as you’d expect from someone who had just quoted Rabbi Hillel and Thomas Paine). When Alinsky mentions that Lucifer should be regarded “over-the-shoulder”, it’s a clear biblical allusion to “get thee behind me Satan”
Saul Alinsky died when Obama was 9, how the heck did he control Obama, through some old book? Lot's of old hippies bought, or stole, the book, it doesn't mean the book took over their lives & they swore allegiance to some hidden conspiracy. God I love reading & listening to such unadulterated trash, a generation of low class unlettered dreck whose soul education is from fat shallow dropouts like Limbo. Cause I have a self esteem problem and you people make me feel so good about myself.
All of you idiots who listen to this man don't even realize that he is a tool of the illuminati and so is OBAMA. All these differences are just a front and Rush as well as OBAMA are satanic and don't let them decieve you. These guys have a job to do that was assigned to them by their satanic puppet masters. There was never really an election, OBAMA was put into that position by these elite satan worshipers just as every president before him. This country has already been taken and Rush knows it.
Google Barack Obama and the Manufactured Crisis (American thinker). There is a flow chart there which shows the the sinister background AND PLAN of the Cloward-Piven Strategy to overwhelm the welfare system and crash capitalism. Spells it out clearly, and it is happening just as planned RIGHT NOW!
NWO new world order coming as stated in the book of Revelations(Holy Bible). The beast will take control and become popular...and says he will save people and a united world government will be formed and those without his mark will go hungry. AMERICAN about 52% ignorance and voting without thinking have allowed this president to completely destroy the government and its economy. Trillions of dollars in deficit...and people are so naive and manipulated.
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OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!.
DEAL with it FUCKERS. He'll be YOUR, i repeat, YOUR president for the NEXT FOUR FUCKING YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!. Youll see him everywhere, in the news, on street boards, etc. Virginia did the right thing and voted for the right person to be president. Better than fucking bush, someone should've killed him a long time ago. A good shot in the head would've BEEN GREAT!!!!. Just one shot. Now that the fuckers gone. Obama will raise America to prominence!
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deal with Obama being YOUR PRESIDENT, BABY!!!!! LOL!!!!. Theres nothing, I mean, NOTHING, you can do to change that. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!. He's gonna be our president for the next FOUR YEARS. And most likely will win the 2012 when he runs against that stupid whore, PALIN. God I hope Palin wins the republican nomination. That'll be an easy shoe in for obama.
even the devil him self knows that he's going to hell "am I wrong" .. so all the the devil slaves are now trying to evnjoy as muchas they can their life time their worldy fake ass pleasure ,, and they all know that the ar going to hell in älakhira". am i wrong lucifeir ???
not only Obama's is the one who worships the satan .. all the american presidents .. matter fact all the politicians and the powerfull media people are in the same satanic system to help the secret agenda for israel ... the twin towers .. iraq .. palestine .. lebanon .. war against "terror"..
I am from WV the coal state and we are already loseing from obamas crapy plan . He is going to make the world worse than it already is . Coal is what keeps this country going . And he is distroying what jobs we have in wv . And what ever he thinks is not good for the enviroment that has provided jobs he is going to distroy it . And that is going to do noughting for helping us.Only killing are jobs hopes and dreams. He is already failing his job and he has only been president for 3 months.
Hey Rush guess what!? Barack Obama is the president! It's very mature of you to sit back and hope barack obama fails. I don't think barack Obama is Religious at all.. if he is as smart as i think he is then he isn't.
spotball7_You have just resorted to one of the most basic, infantile tactics of the Liberal playbook. Now go back to being a pillar in your community that you are, while Rush is listened to by millions (by their own choice).
Sweden, England are all mired in protest and dissent right now. Not exactly Nirvana. Also, these nations are dying. It's people (thru Marxist/Feminist programs to discredit the family) are essentially dying. They simply cannot breed anymore because it no longer makes fiscal sense to bred (unless you are a minority). Why should these nations lose their culture to peoples from failed and conquered societies? Once again, this doesnt matter to someone with no true indentity.
Hate to keep going on about this, but how stupid can people be? I mean, does this guy think Super Obama will put on a cape and defeat terrotist once and for all? Hell, at least Bush was in the Air national guard and (yes, he did) fly fighter jets. Obama wouldn't think of being in the military. How is he gonna do anything differently. Do we have all new soldiers, new Generals, new equipment? Incredible what people will swallow.
Of course he's not perfect. I don't expect him to be entirely successful. His plans to make the healthcare system revamped by 2009 probably won't work. But he's got a lot on his plate, and so far, he's holding his own. Sure the DOW has gone down a considerable amount, but that downslide was present when Bush was in charge, and Obama being the president won't suddenly grind it to a halt if he doesn't take action.
The stimulus is designed to bankrupt the US for good and force us into a Socialist government. Just remember, you are a young man. When your children live like how they do is all Socialist nations (horribly), don't blame people like me. Blame yourselves.
That's absurd. Governments with Socialist policies, such as Britian and Sweden, got that way under high bonuses from the Marshall Plan, which they used to nationalize health care and other services. The stimulus is not some secret revenge of angry soviets or Zionists or whatever, it's necessary money to keep essential services afloat.
Essential services that should already be afloat (see nice neighborhoods) from taxation thru local and state levels if they had been used properly. So now, we are taking money from the Federal level to pay for the waste and overabundance of failed social programs at the state level. You call this progress? I'm so sick of hearing people brag about the servies in socialist nations. Look deeper. They are bankrupt, and dependant upon other nations military to keep afloat and safe. Denmark,
Its going nowhere because you refuse to see what's in front of you. You (like the other kid I owned) are University students who are emmersed in Leftist Ideology everyday. Keep an open mind and you will see why we have the (forced) New world order, why we fill our streets with 3rd world immigrants, but make it extremely difficult for real families to move here. Why we destroyed the family and middle class. Once you see those answers arent partision you will find the truth.
this is the biggest lie of revisionist liberal socialist history EVER placed on you tube. britain, sweden, and the entire european continent is socialist due to the agitation of liberal leftist communists that want to CONTROL the entire society and people. get an education and actually learn how to read and think for yourself and begin with george orwell's 1984 and animal farm.
the goals of communism is the same as liberal facism and militant islumo facism.
the MURDER of the whole of mankind to an ideology bent on DEATH, DESTRUCTION AND MAYHEM to please the elite liberals who agree with these barbarous ideologies of HATE!!!
hatred of Individual Freedom, Personal Liberty and Self Independence.
all of these ideologies should be thrown onto the ash heap of history just like totalitarianism.
just for that , I will post my moniker EVERYWHERE because I am holding up the EXACT same spirit as Socrates.
CHALLENGING THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM OF CORRUPTION, LIES AND DECEIPT.
This is most especially applicable to the the current obamamessiah communist-in-chief as thus annointed by the elite, liberal facist left of the demoncrat party.
That's a laugh. Socrates didn't spew a bunch of generic meaningless labels around. All you are is another (sh)ditto head parroting back his words.
BTW: only right wingers refer to Obama as the Messiah. Also, if he is really the Communist you say, then wouldn't his supporters be communists too, not liberal fascist left?
one and the same thing because all isms of the left are EVIL!!! Socrates did EXACTLY what I do, CHALLENGE the conventions of those who blindly follow others without thinking of the consequences. the obamamessiah is justly named, one need only to look at the blind devotion and reverence attributed to him by the elitist leftist liberal media establishment. does it really matter regarding the label obamunists or communists? the truth is that are the SAME!! just a different label!
Good comment. Watch out! You may be talking to a brick wall. Many people are in search of slavery, and choose to remain blind. Think of it...blind people searching for slavery. It all makes sense.
yes it is a sad state of affairs when you have the dumb, blind and ignorant being led like sheep into the abyss of socialistic slavery that is facist obamunism. which is just another version of communism.
Amen! "And what I do I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds." 2Cor.11:12-15
@jakefree25 liberal facists and communists and the demoncrat part are EXACTLY the same thing. by the wat vladimir ulianov was also a community organizer.
one question for you is why does the left wing obamatons/obamatrons WORSHIP him as their own messiah despite him destroying The United States of America
Lenin iwould've had you shot or sent to the Gulag for insulting him. He was a professional revolutionary who organized an underground party, led a successful armed coup then won a long bloody Civil War against immense odds while creating a completely new government. "Community organizer", when people use that term along with Messiah I know they are feeble talk radio bird brains. Talking about worship, you mean the way the theo-tards worship Bush & Palin?
Sweden never got any Marshall Plan money, she was neutral in WW ll, nor did the UK. Though the UK did get a lot of other help since they were our closest allie.
I just can't believe LIberals sometimes. Every LIberal hated Iraq and Afghanistan and all got into a tizzy over Obama bringing da troops home (even though Marxist hate soldiers, see San Francisco). Obama campaigned and campaigned about no more troops there. And now, hes making it more of a warzone than ever and the Libs are trying to justify it! You got duped Neocrater. This is what the Marxist do (E.G, Alinsky, Lucifer) they dupe you. Now, you being the useful idiot that you are.
Isreal is forcing the US to establish a base there. They got Obama elected and he's gonna do what he's told. The US must now keep a permanent base in the Middle East to keep Israel happy. Tell you what Neocrater. If the US "finishes the job" in Afghanistan and every troop is outta the Middle East by 2011. I will personally fly out to apologize to you.
What foothold did they establish? Heard about any terrorist attacks on our soil since 9/11? Theirs a reason you haven't. LMFAO, you gotta wake up bro. This is nothing more than window dressing. They are pulling troops outta Iraq and (foolishly) closing Quantanamo to appease the Leftist who watch too much CNN. Now, they double the Afghan troops to keep a base of operations in the Middle East under the guise to "finish the job". You really are gullible.
Basically, the point is. Be mindful of the Liberals buzzbirds. Even if you are a Liberal. Bush, Cheney, Gingrich, Condeleeza are all gone now. Liberals need new boogeymen (excuse me, boogeypersons) to scare us. Why not bring back ole Rush. He's been quiet for bouts a decade now eh. It's guilt by association. If they can make Rush the Devil (which they are doing a bang-up job), they can make all that are Conservatives Devils as well. I for one, have a bigger brain than that.
Who, Rush? A boogeyman? Heck no, the guy's a nut. He has had NO political experience, and represents the extreme far right, a position that not even conservatives want to tap anymore. I'd consider him an actual political threat if he had experience, and a clean record, but he's been hooked on oxycontin, and regularly criticizes people with legal medical conditions for going off their medications and hamming it up in ads to get stem cell research passed. He's more of a nuisance than threat to me.
Certainly no one on TV or radio. Remember, we only get a dose of right on TV. Its Left (hollywood, universities, etc), far left (new black panther party, ACORN, etc) and neutral/right leaning(Ron Paul, O'reilly, Rush, etc. Someone like the KKK circa 1920's I would consider far right.
It's not that he doesn't have experience, he's served in both the state and national senate, he's just not as much a part of the government as McCain was. But that's the reason so many voted for Barack, McCain represented the same course that had led us into costly wars and economic disaster, and Barack represented a different approach, one of tougher regulation, better care for our nation's disenfranchised, and certainly remove ourselves from unnecessary conflicts.
Keep telling yoursel that. Obama was voted in by Liberal whites who were tricked and deviced into thinking they were making a difference. It's easy to see the world differently when you live in a Mcmansion. He was a Senator for 6 months bro. He won because he went up against a hated Liberal (Clinton) and the GOP's proven worst campaigner.
And before you go on about Afghanistan, that conflict is necesssary, the previous administration attempted to rid the area of Al Queda in a quick stroke, with little work, and helped set up a government that was unprepared for the gap. We cut out the infection but didn't bandage the wound, and allowed the scourge of the terrorist group to reestablish a foothold. This second wave is to finish what we started, and this time, gain the support of the locals.
LMFAO. Are you honestly trying to tell me, that when Bush was President you supported Afghanistan? Talk about flip-floppin. Us smart folk knew Obama wouldn't pull the troops out of the Middle-East. Israel wouldn't allow it. But he went on telling you folks he would do it "the Friday he got elected". Who was his biggest campaign contributor? Answer: Goldman Sachs. Who are they run by? Afghanistan was quiet for 2 years, now they got to double troops? Hogwash. They are just switching
As for Iraq, the job is almost finished, and with this new administration, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. unlike with McCain, Barack had plans to longer occupy the country. A stable government has been set up, granted, not the best possible, but acceptable, and the Iraqis are enjoying a surplus right now. The only reason the insurgency is still so powerful is the continued occupation, and once we leave, the insurgents will either attempt to overthrow a popular government and fail...
Or simply return to their normal lives. On the economy, people do criticize for the spending made to fix the crisis, but think of it this way, say the deficit is cancer, and the economic crisis is a fresh gunshot wound. You will definately want to get to the cancer, but a open wound that could be fatal needs to be treated first, even if it allows the cancer to continue for longer...
Remember the saying Neocrater. Liberals see the world how it should be, Conservatives see it how it is. What you are advocating is a fantasy. A noble one, however a fantasy nevertheless. Thomas Jefferson I believe said a Democracy can only last until its citizens realize they can vote themselves money from the states coifers.
Is it wrong to dream of a world where people can be united globally in peace, and dare to strive for it? I understand the risks, it could all go terribly terribly wrong. But I have faith in humanity that someday, it can put aside its petty differences, all it needs is a push in the right direction.
Not wrong at all. Just unrealistic and unfeasible. Plus, you won't admit it, but would you be willing to put away your "petty differences"? Seriously, it sounds so easy, but you harbor hate just like everyone else does. That's Liberal brain washing talking. Just like the unnatractive person who gets mad that others pick the prettiest first and states we should like others for who they are. This person doesn't realize they would do the same.
Actually, yes, I do harbor hate for some people. Besides the hate I have for my "militant vegan" roommate and his girlfriend, (which I consider a rather personal problem, and not a problem with any particular group,) I also dislike fundamentalists who assume that, since their God said it's okay, they can do what they want, despite its illegal nature. Fundementalists Christians recieve less of this anger from me than Fundamentalist Muslims, for at least the Christians don't kill anyone, yet...
Which leads me to my point. Liberals are the nicest, friendliest, most down-to-Earth people one can meet. As long as you agree with their ideology. That's why this imagined Eutopia they talk about will only work if you eliminate 5 billion people from the planet. Even then, it will be besiged with failures.
Sad, the ole Leftist standby...the poor the poor. Why do you hate the poor so. It's sickening to hear that. Comes from the mouths of wealthly Liberals for decades now. You think the powers that be give a damn about them. Wake up junior. The US is now becoming Mexico and Mexico is now becoming El Salvador. Great system.
if the us Is going downhill, (which im not convinced it is), then surely u could portion some of the blame to all the money spent on the war, or the "war on drugs"
im not wealthy at all btw, but there are a fair few wealthy and powerful republicans as well as liberals..
Their are absoultely many wealthy Republicans. I have never challenged that. The US is collpasing. I mean how many stats do you need to prove that one?
You sound like this rich friend of mine always talking about the poor and wealth distribution. He wouldn't give you a quarter for cheese on a hamburger. Most greedy person I ever known. It's all just a feelings scam, not a reality one. I tell him all the time, give me enough money to get us even. He goes blank.
Your disgusting. You sit there and let your people lose their jobs, pay higher and higher taxes. Lose all the civil liberties to Marxist SOB's. Do you have no convictions? Do some research, look up some numbers, something, anything. Don't just sit there and guess or have feelings about things.
My ideology is selfish cuz I disagree with the Left? You gotta be kidding me. I suppose a world of poor people (which if we don't slow immigration we will get) you would consdier more humane.
Is all Leftist poo poo. The Feminist say they are for equality but will never fight for discrimination against Men (labor deaths, military deaths, live shorter lives, etc..) and The left claims to be willing to stamp out discrimination but never fights for a white. It's a lie, a lie that gullible young minds like yourself get taught from womb to tomb.
Its not a two-way street. You are a misinformed brat whos never been anywhere and never done anything. Mind your tongue before you refer to anyone as self-centered.
P.S. Didn't Obama say.."If i'm elected, the troops will be home that Friday". Humm, wonder why he doubled troops in Afghanistan and won't START bringing them home from Iraq till late 2010. I wonder who could be behind all that. I mean, Cheney's outta the picture now.
i have some views i would consider conservative, im just strongly opposed to discrimination, and try to use some understanding when i think of people from different backgrounds.
Ahh, now you lean Conservative eh? Save that line for after hours parties. How are we on discrimination now? Isn't it discrimination that illegals commit crimes at seven times the rates of nationals. Isn't it discrimination that Israel will not allow a non jew to own land, but it quick to force other nations into doing such? Would you fight for those causes?
I'm threw talking about it. You won't get a Leftist to see what's right in front of them. I just hope they will know where to place blame when it hits the fan. If ACORN's actions are any indication, they won't.
a part of now breaks into foreclosed houses and takes them over using some obscure law. They forget, that it was ACORN and other similar groups in the first place that forced the government to lend to people who couldn't pay, thus causing this crisis. As a reward for ACORN, inside the US stimulus package is a nice 8 billion (yes BILLION) dollar reward for ACORN. Shocking, a lot of cheddar for a community organization. What do you think will happen when this stimulus fails, and it will.
rate of single mothers raising children. And this is not "over dramatic". This is very, very real. Lastly...Alinsky. Here's what those community organizers (nice name huh) did. They wanted to destroy all fabric of American society. They protested anything they keep us the way we were (a free democracy). They were anti-military (like all leftist, who do they think protects them) anti family (they are the reason we have single moms living on the dole now). The group ACORN that Obama was
last i checked crime wasnt up, crime was lower than a few years ago, but violent crime had increased
anti-military? because we dont want wars? thats insane
if u want to believe the iraq war was justified, when all it did was make tonnes of money for cheneys companies and the fact they had to lie to get the war started, And they did it illegally, err... i guess its up to u. but you're wrong
the pro-left, pro-immigration, pro-feminist have taken over in England. And Brits sit there and wanna dress down other nations. Shameful. Hell, doesn't the loss of Brisitish culture even concern you at all? It concerns me and I'm not British. Once the left takes over ever soldier that ever died for a nation officially becomes in vain. Can't you see it's a movement? Started by Kruschev, what will it take? Do you feel this is a better way? Higher crime, loss of culture, skyrocketing
That's like saying what's the point of the family sticking together. Boy, you have swallowed that leftist poo poo hook line and sinker. You think those Nigerians care about you? You think all these Indo-paki's at London Heathrow see you as anything other than currency? You think you can count on them when needed? They are there for the free ride. And when the pound notes are all used up they will demand you pay for their return.
When an illegal comes to Britland and has been told by your leaders that they will take care of him and his family their is no balance that could ever come out of that. You miss the picture. You cannot conquer a nation until you bastardize it. A united people can never be controlled. History has shown us that. You are for bastardizing the planet. I simply cannot agree with that.
You never even hear the Right on TV or radio. People think you receive all types of debate. Hogwash, you get the Left and the neutral. Anywho, moving on. If you think the Patriot act was more threatening than disarming all of England I truly feel sorry for it. As you are it's future. Patriot Act allowed for a little wiretapping. You can't even own a Samurai sword now. Come on!!!, you can't say anything now in England that isn't considered racist. Are you white...wake up already.
Haha - owning a fucking sword (with no use except to cause harm) vs the government listening to ur conversations?
yes u have ur priorities sorted
and people are not hyper-sensitive to racism in this country
people in the us say some appalling things on the radio against gays and people of other races people just arent that disgusting here, at least not the ones who make it to tv/radio
Liberal buzz words around. Oh brother, it wouldn't be a debate from a Leftist without O'Reilly's name being thrown around. To date, I've watched ummm 15 minutes of O'reilly and listened to ummm, 30 minutes of Rush's radio program (isn't it AM) in the past decade. Hardly enough time for these monsters to stick their claws into me (extreme sarcasm). I kept hearing of the propaganda from O'reilly, so I checked it out one day. Ehh, so what, it's water cooler talk. It's not even right leaning.
i have watched his show in full a few times and found it to be quite decent, but you get proper rants ever now and again, and as i said, he refers to every liberal as "far left" sometimes adding "loon". 9 times out of 10 the person has a completely legitimate point, but he choses to shout down rather than argue the point
a leftist institution. It's so bad in this country they had to start opening conservative universities (which are the fastest growing, btw) just because students would go to College and try to learn how to be an Engineer per:se only to hear daily rants on Iraq, racism, etc from their underqualified professor. Really, once again. If you have any doubt as to which way a campus leans in ideology, I can't help you. Next up...well, heres were it gets pretty pathetic. You toss around standard
the thing with saul alinksy i find troubling, is that hes been characterised as a satan worshipper based on a single line he wrote, which looks like a joke to me
if he had some views that you disagree with and think that they might be an influence on obama, thats different, possibly worth checking out
but to get into all this devil-worship stuff is just insane
And I certainly don't think you are ignorant because you are British. However, England is in some dark days right now and I have noticed a large amount of Brits so quick to chime in and tell us Yanks what is wrong and right. We certainly appreciate this, but maybe you should get the free housing for tramps and tarts and the Nigerian rapist in check first. You know, we did do alright without anyones help if you recall.
Just remember this piece of history. Whenever a nation (at any time in history) was over-run, voted in, etc..with the Leftist, the people who worked most to get them there where the first ones to get lined up against a wall and shot. They were duped, useful idiots if you will. The Communist knew that the people most scorned would make the most dangerous. Hence, kill the Leftist who got us in power. Please see Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez, Lenin, Stalin, Mao. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
dont be fooled by o'reilly - just cos he keeps calling people "far left" doesnt make it so
i dont think theres that sort of problem in ur country or mine
you tell me to be weary of tv, Im Well aware of the bbc, their coverage of the israel-lebanon conflict was a great example of their faults - but theres no way you would sound so afraid if u hadnt been watching tv, or listening to rush...
It's easy for a College aged chap such as yourself to be a Leftist, or sympathize with their views. You have very few if any thoughts in your head to the contrary at that age. All your TV, music, newspapers (yes, the BBC is that bad) and Universities are drowning in Leftist idelogy. I see my nephews studies and it's pro leftist assignment after the next. This week, it's do a report on "Remember the Titans", oh brother.
nicely put - i dont watch tv and im studying for a phd, im not a fool
i would consider my views to be socially left - however i know in this country they are far too soft in some ways
why do u think universities are "leftist"? i ask because i have a feeling u think it might be to do with lecturers, who have never once spoken about politics or anything of that kind in general while ive been studying
Wow, 4 sentences and you've said very little. First off, that's great your goal is to get a PHD. Add a buck fifty to that and you can get a bowl of soup right now. Asking why I "think" universities are leftist is like asking why people think coal mining is dangerous. How does one answer that. Would you consider your universities professor left leaning? Well, research shows in this country as many as 90% of our university facilties are. Really now...please dont go telling us college is not
Ultra feminsized and brutally high taxes have ran off over 2 million former born and raised Brits to other nations (mainly the US). Brits are now expating at over 500k a year. Taxes for the wealthy exceed 80% and any racial comments (read: Leftist, making fun of whites is fine) can get you incarcerated or fired (read: woman who requested "white" cab driver). All this is happening because of the foothold Communist organizations have been able to dig in in most Western nations.
Boy, another Brit chimming in. I tell you the Communist got England, Aussie, and Canada on lockdown and are making serious headway into the US. They are a Communist front. Their goal is communism period. Their means to get to it is any possible. Ever wonder why the left will say something and do another, or why they will have a rule for the US, like forced intergration while being segregated in their country (Israel). Why are so many turning to this? Guess Democracy was too easy.
Well if you think Alinsky was a pretty good guy then there is obviously no reason for us to debate that any further. The UK is highly Socialist and getting worse each day. Personal liberties and freedoms have evaded faster in the UK than any other Westernized nation. Guns, swords, what you can say and do, etc...Bristish culture is essentailly being wiped off the face of the Earth forever. England is dying and being replaced by 3rd worlders.
Woop Woop...Red Herring alert..Red Herring alert. Can anyone make any sense of that statement. Ohh, I get it you are somehow trying to make a claim for a one-world governement. Well, if you want one, I'd recommend fighting for it. Just make absoulutely sure it beat what we have or had. I've always thougth a barcode on my cheek would look pretty cool. But I will leave you with the immortal words of Ben Franklin.........
What was the quote from "The usual suspects"? The greatest prank the Devil ever played was he got people to believe he didn't exist. Or something like that.
"Alinsky died when Obama was 10. It is easy to look up. One would have to be retarded to believe this garbage".
A few years before he died he hired Hillary Clinton for his powerful gang of Communist, thug, deceptive monsters who have destroyed America. True, Saul was dead before Obama joined the group, but it was still Saul's teachings, ideology and principles. Funny, how two people in the same communist front were fighting for the Presidency. We are doomed, wake up.
I hereby predict that BO will not make it through these four years. His loose tongue and big mouth and inability to be sincere when he speaks, these and other "discoveries" will lead to his impeachment. Just wait and see...
This book author that (Fatty) Limbaugh talks about has nothing to do with this Alinsky. Rush just likes to use comparisons that have first of all no ties or co-relation. The ad-hoc arguments are the oldest trick in the book. Nice try lush....I mean Rush. You suck ass!
Well our community across America is not very well organized! The community has been moved to the back of the bus! Yes everyone! Black, white, red, yellow,brown and all community members in and across America! We need to fire our bus driver Obama! He cannot drive? You can stay on his bus and be happy in the back of the bus or you can fire him before he drives you off the cliff! Thankyou. James Sasse.
indiajesuslovesyou 4 months ago
Obama is really good at his job..
jimmy786UK 1 year ago
talk about blow things up and distort the truth rush your so nieve
TheJUNGLESURFER 1 year ago
The stars on the republican party symbol are upside down.
jrhd00d84 1 year ago
Advertising his slurred speach takes away from the message. I am not a fan of Obama, but whoever added that part was being childish.
6883a927 1 year ago
Obama is such a setup!
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Alinksy dedicated the book to his last wife Irene. In the two epigrams prior to the one mentioning Lucifer, which make it clear (in context) that all Alinsky was saying was that his book can also be used for evil and to enslave people as well as for good and to liberate them (as you’d expect from someone who had just quoted Rabbi Hillel and Thomas Paine). When Alinsky mentions that Lucifer should be regarded “over-the-shoulder”, it’s a clear biblical allusion to “get thee behind me Satan”
johnnyk67 1 year ago
@johnnyk67 Spin, spin, spin, spin. You libs always manage to come up some stupid excuses.
Templar777 1 year ago 2
@Templar777 : I'm just telling you that he dedicated the book to his wife, Irene. Believe Rush if you want. After all, he's the one who convinced you that libs always spin, so when they refute him, his flock will say, "spin, spin, spin" - quite brilliant actually. Gotta give him credit. But I am speaking fact. The book was dedicated to Irene. Rush Limbaugh is lying, plain and simple. Pick up a copy and see for yourself.
johnnyk67 1 year ago
@johnnyk67 Thats complete b.s. Templar, I have personally seen the dedication in Ayers book. TOTAL B>S>
goldwater1984 1 year ago
@johnnyk67 Rules For Radicals is dedicated to the first radical known to man - LUCIFER.
READ the book before you spew your bullshit!!!!
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truthkills45 1 year ago
Under the leadership of a man who died in 1972!
You have 0 credibility Rush! STFU!
truthkills45 1 year ago
@truthkills45 If Truth Kills, your brain is dead. Go back to your cartoons.
Templar777 1 year ago
@Templar777
I am no fan of Obama as I believe both Dems and Conservative are running the same scam. Saul Alisnsky might have influenced Obama, but to say that Obama was under his leadership just blows my mind!
You are hopelessly dishonest and intellectually incapable! Imbecile!
truthkills45 1 year ago
@truthkills45 You said " I believe both Dems and Conservative are running the same scam." a comment which displays utter stupidity. You are obviously not only influnced by Alinsky and liberalism, but must worship satan in some perverted way as Alinsky did. You would just as well have said "I believe black is the same as white"
Templar777 1 year ago
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truthkills45 1 year ago
@Templar777
The point is that Alinsky died in 1972 ans this liar Rush said that Obama worked under his leadership! How old was Obama when he started organizing or doing whatever?
Same scam= Running deficits, bailing buddies in Wall Street, waging wars that enrich their friends, working for Corporate America while enlightened imbeciles like you keep up with the partisanship
truthkills45 1 year ago
@truthkills45 a person, or people can be under someone's leadership even if they were not alive. Skinheads are under Hitler's leadership...get it??
Templar777 1 year ago 2
@Templar777
The word "influence" would be far more appropriate! "Leadership " is intended to confuse the listener and brand Obama as an active devil worshiper!
Its such dishonest tactics that Rush constantly uses...keep thanking God for the rubbish he sends your way.
truthkills45 1 year ago
@truthkills45 Leadership:A person who has commanding authority or influence . You're right idiot. Influence is a large part of leadership. It's called "SEMANTICS"...Look it up. I win. No Cookie for you. End of thread. Bye.
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@Templar777
Its a large part, but its not the whole! Otherwise, anybody who influences you would become your leader!
Bin Laden influenced US foreign policy! Is he a foreign policy leader?
Rush must have influenced you a bit too much! In this case, he is your leader! Stop worshiping the moronic bigot and learn how to spell LEADERSHIP
Try googling CRITICAL LISTENING!
truthkills45 1 year ago
hates all he's got now the right racist people that u lead are so few its funny
billybob101013 2 years ago
Terrific upload! Thank you!
God bless Rush Limbaugh, almost losing him makes us realize what a monumental loss he would be for America's patriots.
USA4July1776 2 years ago
@USA4July1776 I agree, thank God for Rush...
If it were up to the left, he would be off the air, along with any other dissenting voices against socialism....Luckily for us, the Left wont be in power for long :)
bucs2921 2 years ago
I searched for Saul Alinsky and found this. I must admit I don't like Rush but I had to agree with him this time. That commie Bolchevik Alinsky was some dirty bass turd and was what you call a domestic enemy of the United States of America's Constitution. Imagine dedicating your book and worshiping Lucifer? Now the rotten parasites are in the White House.
elucidative 2 years ago
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Alinksy dedicated the book to his last wife Irene. In the two epigrams prior to the one mentioning Lucifer, which make it clear (in context) that all Alinsky was saying was that his book can also be used for evil and to enslave people as well as for good and to liberate them (as you’d expect from someone who had just quoted Rabbi Hillel and Thomas Paine). When Alinsky mentions that Lucifer should be regarded “over-the-shoulder”, it’s a clear biblical allusion to “get thee behind me Satan”
johnnyk67 1 year ago
he cant talk 4.05
eowest123 2 years ago
Saul Alinsky died when Obama was 9, how the heck did he control Obama, through some old book? Lot's of old hippies bought, or stole, the book, it doesn't mean the book took over their lives & they swore allegiance to some hidden conspiracy. God I love reading & listening to such unadulterated trash, a generation of low class unlettered dreck whose soul education is from fat shallow dropouts like Limbo. Cause I have a self esteem problem and you people make me feel so good about myself.
jakefree25 2 years ago
This from a d(sh)itto head holding a gun.
jakefree25 2 years ago
All of you idiots who listen to this man don't even realize that he is a tool of the illuminati and so is OBAMA. All these differences are just a front and Rush as well as OBAMA are satanic and don't let them decieve you. These guys have a job to do that was assigned to them by their satanic puppet masters. There was never really an election, OBAMA was put into that position by these elite satan worshipers just as every president before him. This country has already been taken and Rush knows it.
DaStr8Truth 2 years ago
Google Barack Obama and the Manufactured Crisis (American thinker). There is a flow chart there which shows the the sinister background AND PLAN of the Cloward-Piven Strategy to overwhelm the welfare system and crash capitalism. Spells it out clearly, and it is happening just as planned RIGHT NOW!
cristabell7 2 years ago
American Thinker is ironic, since it is cheezy trash aimed at non-thinkers.
jakefree25 2 years ago
NWO new world order coming as stated in the book of Revelations(Holy Bible). The beast will take control and become popular...and says he will save people and a united world government will be formed and those without his mark will go hungry. AMERICAN about 52% ignorance and voting without thinking have allowed this president to completely destroy the government and its economy. Trillions of dollars in deficit...and people are so naive and manipulated.
DarthMai 2 years ago
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OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!.
DEAL with it FUCKERS. He'll be YOUR, i repeat, YOUR president for the NEXT FOUR FUCKING YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!. Youll see him everywhere, in the news, on street boards, etc. Virginia did the right thing and voted for the right person to be president. Better than fucking bush, someone should've killed him a long time ago. A good shot in the head would've BEEN GREAT!!!!. Just one shot. Now that the fuckers gone. Obama will raise America to prominence!
specialk121212 2 years ago
Hey idiot...Bush wasn't running for President. Go back to collecting aluminum cans on the side of the road.
Templar777 2 years ago
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deal with Obama being YOUR PRESIDENT, BABY!!!!! LOL!!!!. Theres nothing, I mean, NOTHING, you can do to change that. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!. He's gonna be our president for the next FOUR YEARS. And most likely will win the 2012 when he runs against that stupid whore, PALIN. God I hope Palin wins the republican nomination. That'll be an easy shoe in for obama.
OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
specialk121212 2 years ago
Ditto!
PRTBOY1911 2 years ago
but guess what
even the devil him self knows that he's going to hell "am I wrong" .. so all the the devil slaves are now trying to evnjoy as muchas they can their life time their worldy fake ass pleasure ,, and they all know that the ar going to hell in älakhira". am i wrong lucifeir ???
aboody5000 2 years ago
it's all some sanatic bullshit to complete the satanic plan to build (zion) the pefect land of israel till the arrival of the antichrist dajjal ..
all moslims know that...
and if u wonna know evrything seach in youtube for '"antichrist arrival"" videos
one
aboody5000 2 years ago
not only Obama's is the one who worships the satan .. all the american presidents .. matter fact all the politicians and the powerfull media people are in the same satanic system to help the secret agenda for israel ... the twin towers .. iraq .. palestine .. lebanon .. war against "terror"..
aboody5000 2 years ago
I am from WV the coal state and we are already loseing from obamas crapy plan . He is going to make the world worse than it already is . Coal is what keeps this country going . And he is distroying what jobs we have in wv . And what ever he thinks is not good for the enviroment that has provided jobs he is going to distroy it . And that is going to do noughting for helping us.Only killing are jobs hopes and dreams. He is already failing his job and he has only been president for 3 months.
dustyncarol 2 years ago
Hey Rush guess what!? Barack Obama is the president! It's very mature of you to sit back and hope barack obama fails. I don't think barack Obama is Religious at all.. if he is as smart as i think he is then he isn't.
RHCP4455 2 years ago
That fat, boy-fuckin, racist drug addict has ZERO CREDIBILITY!!!!
spotball7 3 years ago
spotball7_You have just resorted to one of the most basic, infantile tactics of the Liberal playbook. Now go back to being a pillar in your community that you are, while Rush is listened to by millions (by their own choice).
Templar777 3 years ago
Sweden, England are all mired in protest and dissent right now. Not exactly Nirvana. Also, these nations are dying. It's people (thru Marxist/Feminist programs to discredit the family) are essentially dying. They simply cannot breed anymore because it no longer makes fiscal sense to bred (unless you are a minority). Why should these nations lose their culture to peoples from failed and conquered societies? Once again, this doesnt matter to someone with no true indentity.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Hate to keep going on about this, but how stupid can people be? I mean, does this guy think Super Obama will put on a cape and defeat terrotist once and for all? Hell, at least Bush was in the Air national guard and (yes, he did) fly fighter jets. Obama wouldn't think of being in the military. How is he gonna do anything differently. Do we have all new soldiers, new Generals, new equipment? Incredible what people will swallow.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Of course he's not perfect. I don't expect him to be entirely successful. His plans to make the healthcare system revamped by 2009 probably won't work. But he's got a lot on his plate, and so far, he's holding his own. Sure the DOW has gone down a considerable amount, but that downslide was present when Bush was in charge, and Obama being the president won't suddenly grind it to a halt if he doesn't take action.
Neocrater 3 years ago
Mistype, i meant 2010 when I said 2009.
Neocrater 3 years ago
The stimulus is designed to bankrupt the US for good and force us into a Socialist government. Just remember, you are a young man. When your children live like how they do is all Socialist nations (horribly), don't blame people like me. Blame yourselves.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
That's absurd. Governments with Socialist policies, such as Britian and Sweden, got that way under high bonuses from the Marshall Plan, which they used to nationalize health care and other services. The stimulus is not some secret revenge of angry soviets or Zionists or whatever, it's necessary money to keep essential services afloat.
Neocrater 3 years ago
Essential services that should already be afloat (see nice neighborhoods) from taxation thru local and state levels if they had been used properly. So now, we are taking money from the Federal level to pay for the waste and overabundance of failed social programs at the state level. You call this progress? I'm so sick of hearing people brag about the servies in socialist nations. Look deeper. They are bankrupt, and dependant upon other nations military to keep afloat and safe. Denmark,
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Whatever, this is going nowhere, and I've got a Report on the Westphalian Kingdom to write by Monday, so I'm gonna go work on that.
Neocrater 3 years ago
Its going nowhere because you refuse to see what's in front of you. You (like the other kid I owned) are University students who are emmersed in Leftist Ideology everyday. Keep an open mind and you will see why we have the (forced) New world order, why we fill our streets with 3rd world immigrants, but make it extremely difficult for real families to move here. Why we destroyed the family and middle class. Once you see those answers arent partision you will find the truth.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
this is the biggest lie of revisionist liberal socialist history EVER placed on you tube. britain, sweden, and the entire european continent is socialist due to the agitation of liberal leftist communists that want to CONTROL the entire society and people. get an education and actually learn how to read and think for yourself and begin with george orwell's 1984 and animal farm.
SocratesTheGadfly 2 years ago
And read The 5000 Year Leap, and search for youtube "communist goals".
Allah666Satan 2 years ago
the goals of communism is the same as liberal facism and militant islumo facism.
the MURDER of the whole of mankind to an ideology bent on DEATH, DESTRUCTION AND MAYHEM to please the elite liberals who agree with these barbarous ideologies of HATE!!!
hatred of Individual Freedom, Personal Liberty and Self Independence.
all of these ideologies should be thrown onto the ash heap of history just like totalitarianism.
SocratesTheGadfly 2 years ago
Please change your name, I hate to see Socrates be associated with such ignorant, uneducated garbge.
jakefree25 2 years ago
just for that , I will post my moniker EVERYWHERE because I am holding up the EXACT same spirit as Socrates.
CHALLENGING THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM OF CORRUPTION, LIES AND DECEIPT.
This is most especially applicable to the the current obamamessiah communist-in-chief as thus annointed by the elite, liberal facist left of the demoncrat party.
SocratesTheGadfly 2 years ago
That's a laugh. Socrates didn't spew a bunch of generic meaningless labels around. All you are is another (sh)ditto head parroting back his words.
BTW: only right wingers refer to Obama as the Messiah. Also, if he is really the Communist you say, then wouldn't his supporters be communists too, not liberal fascist left?
jakefree25 2 years ago
one and the same thing because all isms of the left are EVIL!!! Socrates did EXACTLY what I do, CHALLENGE the conventions of those who blindly follow others without thinking of the consequences. the obamamessiah is justly named, one need only to look at the blind devotion and reverence attributed to him by the elitist leftist liberal media establishment. does it really matter regarding the label obamunists or communists? the truth is that are the SAME!! just a different label!
SocratesTheGadfly 2 years ago
Good comment. Watch out! You may be talking to a brick wall. Many people are in search of slavery, and choose to remain blind. Think of it...blind people searching for slavery. It all makes sense.
Templar777 2 years ago
yes it is a sad state of affairs when you have the dumb, blind and ignorant being led like sheep into the abyss of socialistic slavery that is facist obamunism. which is just another version of communism.
SocratesTheGadfly 2 years ago
Amen! "And what I do I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds." 2Cor.11:12-15
JehanneDeLys 1 year ago
@jakefree25 liberal facists and communists and the demoncrat part are EXACTLY the same thing. by the wat vladimir ulianov was also a community organizer.
one question for you is why does the left wing obamatons/obamatrons WORSHIP him as their own messiah despite him destroying The United States of America
SocratesTheGadfly 1 year ago
Lenin iwould've had you shot or sent to the Gulag for insulting him. He was a professional revolutionary who organized an underground party, led a successful armed coup then won a long bloody Civil War against immense odds while creating a completely new government. "Community organizer", when people use that term along with Messiah I know they are feeble talk radio bird brains. Talking about worship, you mean the way the theo-tards worship Bush & Palin?
jakefree25 1 year ago
Sweden never got any Marshall Plan money, she was neutral in WW ll, nor did the UK. Though the UK did get a lot of other help since they were our closest allie.
jakefree25 1 year ago
I just can't believe LIberals sometimes. Every LIberal hated Iraq and Afghanistan and all got into a tizzy over Obama bringing da troops home (even though Marxist hate soldiers, see San Francisco). Obama campaigned and campaigned about no more troops there. And now, hes making it more of a warzone than ever and the Libs are trying to justify it! You got duped Neocrater. This is what the Marxist do (E.G, Alinsky, Lucifer) they dupe you. Now, you being the useful idiot that you are.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
And this happened all within 50 days? Man, come on.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Isreal is forcing the US to establish a base there. They got Obama elected and he's gonna do what he's told. The US must now keep a permanent base in the Middle East to keep Israel happy. Tell you what Neocrater. If the US "finishes the job" in Afghanistan and every troop is outta the Middle East by 2011. I will personally fly out to apologize to you.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
What foothold did they establish? Heard about any terrorist attacks on our soil since 9/11? Theirs a reason you haven't. LMFAO, you gotta wake up bro. This is nothing more than window dressing. They are pulling troops outta Iraq and (foolishly) closing Quantanamo to appease the Leftist who watch too much CNN. Now, they double the Afghan troops to keep a base of operations in the Middle East under the guise to "finish the job". You really are gullible.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Basically, the point is. Be mindful of the Liberals buzzbirds. Even if you are a Liberal. Bush, Cheney, Gingrich, Condeleeza are all gone now. Liberals need new boogeymen (excuse me, boogeypersons) to scare us. Why not bring back ole Rush. He's been quiet for bouts a decade now eh. It's guilt by association. If they can make Rush the Devil (which they are doing a bang-up job), they can make all that are Conservatives Devils as well. I for one, have a bigger brain than that.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Who, Rush? A boogeyman? Heck no, the guy's a nut. He has had NO political experience, and represents the extreme far right, a position that not even conservatives want to tap anymore. I'd consider him an actual political threat if he had experience, and a clean record, but he's been hooked on oxycontin, and regularly criticizes people with legal medical conditions for going off their medications and hamming it up in ads to get stem cell research passed. He's more of a nuisance than threat to me.
Neocrater 3 years ago
That ain't the extreme far right, trust me.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Who would you consider to be the extreme far right?
Neocrater 3 years ago
Certainly no one on TV or radio. Remember, we only get a dose of right on TV. Its Left (hollywood, universities, etc), far left (new black panther party, ACORN, etc) and neutral/right leaning(Ron Paul, O'reilly, Rush, etc. Someone like the KKK circa 1920's I would consider far right.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
I know someone else who has had no politicial experience and represents an extreme. You fools just voted for him.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
It's not that he doesn't have experience, he's served in both the state and national senate, he's just not as much a part of the government as McCain was. But that's the reason so many voted for Barack, McCain represented the same course that had led us into costly wars and economic disaster, and Barack represented a different approach, one of tougher regulation, better care for our nation's disenfranchised, and certainly remove ourselves from unnecessary conflicts.
Neocrater 3 years ago
Keep telling yoursel that. Obama was voted in by Liberal whites who were tricked and deviced into thinking they were making a difference. It's easy to see the world differently when you live in a Mcmansion. He was a Senator for 6 months bro. He won because he went up against a hated Liberal (Clinton) and the GOP's proven worst campaigner.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
And before you go on about Afghanistan, that conflict is necesssary, the previous administration attempted to rid the area of Al Queda in a quick stroke, with little work, and helped set up a government that was unprepared for the gap. We cut out the infection but didn't bandage the wound, and allowed the scourge of the terrorist group to reestablish a foothold. This second wave is to finish what we started, and this time, gain the support of the locals.
Neocrater 3 years ago
LMFAO. Are you honestly trying to tell me, that when Bush was President you supported Afghanistan? Talk about flip-floppin. Us smart folk knew Obama wouldn't pull the troops out of the Middle-East. Israel wouldn't allow it. But he went on telling you folks he would do it "the Friday he got elected". Who was his biggest campaign contributor? Answer: Goldman Sachs. Who are they run by? Afghanistan was quiet for 2 years, now they got to double troops? Hogwash. They are just switching
SeanP7195 3 years ago
As for Iraq, the job is almost finished, and with this new administration, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. unlike with McCain, Barack had plans to longer occupy the country. A stable government has been set up, granted, not the best possible, but acceptable, and the Iraqis are enjoying a surplus right now. The only reason the insurgency is still so powerful is the continued occupation, and once we leave, the insurgents will either attempt to overthrow a popular government and fail...
Neocrater 3 years ago
Or simply return to their normal lives. On the economy, people do criticize for the spending made to fix the crisis, but think of it this way, say the deficit is cancer, and the economic crisis is a fresh gunshot wound. You will definately want to get to the cancer, but a open wound that could be fatal needs to be treated first, even if it allows the cancer to continue for longer...
Neocrater 3 years ago
That statement is stupid.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Remember the saying Neocrater. Liberals see the world how it should be, Conservatives see it how it is. What you are advocating is a fantasy. A noble one, however a fantasy nevertheless. Thomas Jefferson I believe said a Democracy can only last until its citizens realize they can vote themselves money from the states coifers.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Is it wrong to dream of a world where people can be united globally in peace, and dare to strive for it? I understand the risks, it could all go terribly terribly wrong. But I have faith in humanity that someday, it can put aside its petty differences, all it needs is a push in the right direction.
Neocrater 3 years ago
Not wrong at all. Just unrealistic and unfeasible. Plus, you won't admit it, but would you be willing to put away your "petty differences"? Seriously, it sounds so easy, but you harbor hate just like everyone else does. That's Liberal brain washing talking. Just like the unnatractive person who gets mad that others pick the prettiest first and states we should like others for who they are. This person doesn't realize they would do the same.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Actually, yes, I do harbor hate for some people. Besides the hate I have for my "militant vegan" roommate and his girlfriend, (which I consider a rather personal problem, and not a problem with any particular group,) I also dislike fundamentalists who assume that, since their God said it's okay, they can do what they want, despite its illegal nature. Fundementalists Christians recieve less of this anger from me than Fundamentalist Muslims, for at least the Christians don't kill anyone, yet...
Neocrater 3 years ago
Which leads me to my point. Liberals are the nicest, friendliest, most down-to-Earth people one can meet. As long as you agree with their ideology. That's why this imagined Eutopia they talk about will only work if you eliminate 5 billion people from the planet. Even then, it will be besiged with failures.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Sad, the ole Leftist standby...the poor the poor. Why do you hate the poor so. It's sickening to hear that. Comes from the mouths of wealthly Liberals for decades now. You think the powers that be give a damn about them. Wake up junior. The US is now becoming Mexico and Mexico is now becoming El Salvador. Great system.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
if the us Is going downhill, (which im not convinced it is), then surely u could portion some of the blame to all the money spent on the war, or the "war on drugs"
im not wealthy at all btw, but there are a fair few wealthy and powerful republicans as well as liberals..
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Considering the bank bailout cost 13 times more than all of Iraq I'm not prepared to agree with that.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Their are absoultely many wealthy Republicans. I have never challenged that. The US is collpasing. I mean how many stats do you need to prove that one?
SeanP7195 3 years ago
You sound like this rich friend of mine always talking about the poor and wealth distribution. He wouldn't give you a quarter for cheese on a hamburger. Most greedy person I ever known. It's all just a feelings scam, not a reality one. I tell him all the time, give me enough money to get us even. He goes blank.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
lol, well im not like that
not rich, not stingy with my buddies either
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Your disgusting. You sit there and let your people lose their jobs, pay higher and higher taxes. Lose all the civil liberties to Marxist SOB's. Do you have no convictions? Do some research, look up some numbers, something, anything. Don't just sit there and guess or have feelings about things.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
ur ideology is inherently selfish
fuck the rest of the world
let them all live in poverty as long as i dont have to change a single thing
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
My ideology is selfish cuz I disagree with the Left? You gotta be kidding me. I suppose a world of poor people (which if we don't slow immigration we will get) you would consdier more humane.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
no, many countries are still backwards because countries like mine raped them for bout 400years
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Is all Leftist poo poo. The Feminist say they are for equality but will never fight for discrimination against Men (labor deaths, military deaths, live shorter lives, etc..) and The left claims to be willing to stamp out discrimination but never fights for a white. It's a lie, a lie that gullible young minds like yourself get taught from womb to tomb.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
oh because white discrimination is so prevalent in our predominantly white countries
of course it exists, but again, its a 2-way street
honestly people like you are so self-centred
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Its not a two-way street. You are a misinformed brat whos never been anywhere and never done anything. Mind your tongue before you refer to anyone as self-centered.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
haha
dude im not a child, u have said similarly barbed things to me
this is exactly my point - ur being so self-centred just be reacting like this
i dont know how old u are, but uv reached a point in life where u feel u cant be told ur wrong - this is just opinions buddy
why are there people who are older and smarter than u who disagree with u?
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
How is that any different from your stance?
SeanP7195 3 years ago
i dont get offended when u tell me otherwise
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Thanks
SeanP7195 3 years ago
P.S. Didn't Obama say.."If i'm elected, the troops will be home that Friday". Humm, wonder why he doubled troops in Afghanistan and won't START bringing them home from Iraq till late 2010. I wonder who could be behind all that. I mean, Cheney's outta the picture now.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Isn't Leftism an idea created simply to make people easier to manipulate?
SeanP7195 3 years ago
why do u assume im care so much about "leftism"?
i have some views i would consider conservative, im just strongly opposed to discrimination, and try to use some understanding when i think of people from different backgrounds.
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Ahh, now you lean Conservative eh? Save that line for after hours parties. How are we on discrimination now? Isn't it discrimination that illegals commit crimes at seven times the rates of nationals. Isn't it discrimination that Israel will not allow a non jew to own land, but it quick to force other nations into doing such? Would you fight for those causes?
SeanP7195 3 years ago
im against israel in many respects such as that.
and i dont think its true that illegals commit crimes at higher rates than nationals.. that's not wat i heard
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Then what you heard is incorrect. In this nation we keep those statsitics and are easily accesible.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
tell me where please, i would like to see for myself, if u can remember the site..
otherwise i will look later
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Oh brother, here comes Cheney's name.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Well then maybe you should campaign for Israel to open their borders like we should if you feel that way.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
I'm threw talking about it. You won't get a Leftist to see what's right in front of them. I just hope they will know where to place blame when it hits the fan. If ACORN's actions are any indication, they won't.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
a part of now breaks into foreclosed houses and takes them over using some obscure law. They forget, that it was ACORN and other similar groups in the first place that forced the government to lend to people who couldn't pay, thus causing this crisis. As a reward for ACORN, inside the US stimulus package is a nice 8 billion (yes BILLION) dollar reward for ACORN. Shocking, a lot of cheddar for a community organization. What do you think will happen when this stimulus fails, and it will.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
rate of single mothers raising children. And this is not "over dramatic". This is very, very real. Lastly...Alinsky. Here's what those community organizers (nice name huh) did. They wanted to destroy all fabric of American society. They protested anything they keep us the way we were (a free democracy). They were anti-military (like all leftist, who do they think protects them) anti family (they are the reason we have single moms living on the dole now). The group ACORN that Obama was
SeanP7195 3 years ago
single mothers is probably up
last i checked crime wasnt up, crime was lower than a few years ago, but violent crime had increased
anti-military? because we dont want wars? thats insane
if u want to believe the iraq war was justified, when all it did was make tonnes of money for cheneys companies and the fact they had to lie to get the war started, And they did it illegally, err... i guess its up to u. but you're wrong
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
the pro-left, pro-immigration, pro-feminist have taken over in England. And Brits sit there and wanna dress down other nations. Shameful. Hell, doesn't the loss of Brisitish culture even concern you at all? It concerns me and I'm not British. Once the left takes over ever soldier that ever died for a nation officially becomes in vain. Can't you see it's a movement? Started by Kruschev, what will it take? Do you feel this is a better way? Higher crime, loss of culture, skyrocketing
SeanP7195 3 years ago
What are u talking about? Nobody has "taken over" in that way
U see the main difference between us i feel is that i dont believe in nations or national pride - its ignorant
who cares what piece of land i was born on
preservation of culture is nice but its not essential for it to be flowing through ever part of the country - progress is more important
ther's plenty of british "culture" if u could call it that, but yes many of the big cities have been taken over by immigration
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Well then, if you have no feeling of nations or national pride then cleary will have nothing left to discuss.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
well dont u see how stupid it is? patriotism is simply an idea created to make people easier to manipulate
its obvious
i mean what point is there to patriotism?
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
That's like saying what's the point of the family sticking together. Boy, you have swallowed that leftist poo poo hook line and sinker. You think those Nigerians care about you? You think all these Indo-paki's at London Heathrow see you as anything other than currency? You think you can count on them when needed? They are there for the free ride. And when the pound notes are all used up they will demand you pay for their return.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
what are u even saying?
i can count on certain people when needed, its not a matter of where they come from
theres tonnes of english people i can "count on" and tonnes i cant
people's people
tonnes of english/americans are in for a free ride
tonnes of immigrants are (t)here to work, not to make the country stronger, but because theywant to work for a decent living
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
And tonnes that aren't.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
yes but im trying to point out that there is some balance, its not all one-way as u seem to think
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
When an illegal comes to Britland and has been told by your leaders that they will take care of him and his family their is no balance that could ever come out of that. You miss the picture. You cannot conquer a nation until you bastardize it. A united people can never be controlled. History has shown us that. You are for bastardizing the planet. I simply cannot agree with that.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
You never even hear the Right on TV or radio. People think you receive all types of debate. Hogwash, you get the Left and the neutral. Anywho, moving on. If you think the Patriot act was more threatening than disarming all of England I truly feel sorry for it. As you are it's future. Patriot Act allowed for a little wiretapping. You can't even own a Samurai sword now. Come on!!!, you can't say anything now in England that isn't considered racist. Are you white...wake up already.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Haha - owning a fucking sword (with no use except to cause harm) vs the government listening to ur conversations?
yes u have ur priorities sorted
and people are not hyper-sensitive to racism in this country
people in the us say some appalling things on the radio against gays and people of other races people just arent that disgusting here, at least not the ones who make it to tv/radio
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
What exactly are "other races"
SeanP7195 3 years ago
haha, yes im white, english for many generations, no foreign blood in me apart from a splash of irish,
do u feel more comfortable now?
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Comfortable no. Dissapointed and disgusted, yes.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
hahaha ur amazing man
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Liberal buzz words around. Oh brother, it wouldn't be a debate from a Leftist without O'Reilly's name being thrown around. To date, I've watched ummm 15 minutes of O'reilly and listened to ummm, 30 minutes of Rush's radio program (isn't it AM) in the past decade. Hardly enough time for these monsters to stick their claws into me (extreme sarcasm). I kept hearing of the propaganda from O'reilly, so I checked it out one day. Ehh, so what, it's water cooler talk. It's not even right leaning.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
no, o'reilly is right-leaning
i have watched his show in full a few times and found it to be quite decent, but you get proper rants ever now and again, and as i said, he refers to every liberal as "far left" sometimes adding "loon". 9 times out of 10 the person has a completely legitimate point, but he choses to shout down rather than argue the point
when has he ever said "far-right"?
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
a leftist institution. It's so bad in this country they had to start opening conservative universities (which are the fastest growing, btw) just because students would go to College and try to learn how to be an Engineer per:se only to hear daily rants on Iraq, racism, etc from their underqualified professor. Really, once again. If you have any doubt as to which way a campus leans in ideology, I can't help you. Next up...well, heres were it gets pretty pathetic. You toss around standard
SeanP7195 3 years ago
the thing with saul alinksy i find troubling, is that hes been characterised as a satan worshipper based on a single line he wrote, which looks like a joke to me
if he had some views that you disagree with and think that they might be an influence on obama, thats different, possibly worth checking out
but to get into all this devil-worship stuff is just insane
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
And I certainly don't think you are ignorant because you are British. However, England is in some dark days right now and I have noticed a large amount of Brits so quick to chime in and tell us Yanks what is wrong and right. We certainly appreciate this, but maybe you should get the free housing for tramps and tarts and the Nigerian rapist in check first. You know, we did do alright without anyones help if you recall.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Just remember this piece of history. Whenever a nation (at any time in history) was over-run, voted in, etc..with the Leftist, the people who worked most to get them there where the first ones to get lined up against a wall and shot. They were duped, useful idiots if you will. The Communist knew that the people most scorned would make the most dangerous. Hence, kill the Leftist who got us in power. Please see Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez, Lenin, Stalin, Mao. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
again very dramatic
ur talking very far left
dont be fooled by o'reilly - just cos he keeps calling people "far left" doesnt make it so
i dont think theres that sort of problem in ur country or mine
you tell me to be weary of tv, Im Well aware of the bbc, their coverage of the israel-lebanon conflict was a great example of their faults - but theres no way you would sound so afraid if u hadnt been watching tv, or listening to rush...
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
It's easy for a College aged chap such as yourself to be a Leftist, or sympathize with their views. You have very few if any thoughts in your head to the contrary at that age. All your TV, music, newspapers (yes, the BBC is that bad) and Universities are drowning in Leftist idelogy. I see my nephews studies and it's pro leftist assignment after the next. This week, it's do a report on "Remember the Titans", oh brother.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
nicely put - i dont watch tv and im studying for a phd, im not a fool
i would consider my views to be socially left - however i know in this country they are far too soft in some ways
why do u think universities are "leftist"? i ask because i have a feeling u think it might be to do with lecturers, who have never once spoken about politics or anything of that kind in general while ive been studying
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Wow, 4 sentences and you've said very little. First off, that's great your goal is to get a PHD. Add a buck fifty to that and you can get a bowl of soup right now. Asking why I "think" universities are leftist is like asking why people think coal mining is dangerous. How does one answer that. Would you consider your universities professor left leaning? Well, research shows in this country as many as 90% of our university facilties are. Really now...please dont go telling us college is not
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Ultra feminsized and brutally high taxes have ran off over 2 million former born and raised Brits to other nations (mainly the US). Brits are now expating at over 500k a year. Taxes for the wealthy exceed 80% and any racial comments (read: Leftist, making fun of whites is fine) can get you incarcerated or fired (read: woman who requested "white" cab driver). All this is happening because of the foothold Communist organizations have been able to dig in in most Western nations.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Boy, another Brit chimming in. I tell you the Communist got England, Aussie, and Canada on lockdown and are making serious headway into the US. They are a Communist front. Their goal is communism period. Their means to get to it is any possible. Ever wonder why the left will say something and do another, or why they will have a rule for the US, like forced intergration while being segregated in their country (Israel). Why are so many turning to this? Guess Democracy was too easy.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
id like to hear more evidence for why saul alinsky is so bad apart from a tiny piece of his book which looks to me to be very tongue in cheek
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Well, I'm assuming you have eyes, fingers, and a brain. I would suggest reading his book and doing other research as well.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
thanks for that
i would, but preliminary reading led me to believe that alinsky was a pretty good guy
so as far as im concerned this is just another republican conspiracy theory
typical of rush
lol, how is britain in any way communist? u seem to think im ignorant cos im from uk...
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
Well if you think Alinsky was a pretty good guy then there is obviously no reason for us to debate that any further. The UK is highly Socialist and getting worse each day. Personal liberties and freedoms have evaded faster in the UK than any other Westernized nation. Guns, swords, what you can say and do, etc...Bristish culture is essentailly being wiped off the face of the Earth forever. England is dying and being replaced by 3rd worlders.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
wow, dont u think ur being a little dramatic?
besides guns, which most people ive come across dont Want in this country, personal liberties are far from under threat.
the patriot act is/was far more threatening than anything in this country
PeterSenderos 3 years ago
People who choose security over freedom, deserve neither and will get neither.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
Woop Woop...Red Herring alert..Red Herring alert. Can anyone make any sense of that statement. Ohh, I get it you are somehow trying to make a claim for a one-world governement. Well, if you want one, I'd recommend fighting for it. Just make absoulutely sure it beat what we have or had. I've always thougth a barcode on my cheek would look pretty cool. But I will leave you with the immortal words of Ben Franklin.........
SeanP7195 3 years ago
What was the quote from "The usual suspects"? The greatest prank the Devil ever played was he got people to believe he didn't exist. Or something like that.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
"Alinsky died when Obama was 10. It is easy to look up. One would have to be retarded to believe this garbage".
A few years before he died he hired Hillary Clinton for his powerful gang of Communist, thug, deceptive monsters who have destroyed America. True, Saul was dead before Obama joined the group, but it was still Saul's teachings, ideology and principles. Funny, how two people in the same communist front were fighting for the Presidency. We are doomed, wake up.
SeanP7195 3 years ago
woops!! too late now
jman375 3 years ago
"His community organizing took place under the leadership of a man named Saul Alinsky," according to Rush.
Alinsky died when Obama was 10. It is easy to look up. One would have to be retarded to believe this garbage.
I'm not saying this to defend Obama. I think being influenced by Alinsky would be better than being the handmaiden of the bankers - which he is.
fjfjvmvm 3 years ago
I hereby predict that BO will not make it through these four years. His loose tongue and big mouth and inability to be sincere when he speaks, these and other "discoveries" will lead to his impeachment. Just wait and see...
dntonim16 3 years ago
woops!! to late now :)
jman375 3 years ago
Go back to your public school and learn how to spell. The word is "Too", not "To"
Templar777 3 years ago
thanks for the correction,
I'll try to remember for next time :)
jman375 3 years ago
This fat bastard preaching to the right wing dunces and they believe all the distorted crap he spews, how sad.
jenfan2007 3 years ago
Dedicated to Lucifer...that says it all. How distorted is Linsky's own written words?
Templar777 3 years ago
This book author that (Fatty) Limbaugh talks about has nothing to do with this Alinsky. Rush just likes to use comparisons that have first of all no ties or co-relation. The ad-hoc arguments are the oldest trick in the book. Nice try lush....I mean Rush. You suck ass!
Clarky6666 3 years ago