when you've fought for your country being wounded 14 times, received the highest military honor , foreshadowed the fate of the story, narrated your life, resisted a dictator like Hitler, maintained relationships with men as Hiddeger or Schmitt
Only then you will be allowed to say that Junger is an idiot
understandably you are an incompetent ass but try to reduce how much drivel you blather about in the course of your miserable existence for humanity's sake.
Da hilft auch der tautologische username nichts, wenn mann noch nicht mal die wirklich besonderen Seiten seiner Helden versteht, da bleibt eigentlich nur die letzte patriotische Tat - just do it:)
If you had some education, you wouldn't have to span several centuries to find the kind of anti-semites you were looking for, 20 years would have done the trick for you.
Apart from that, except for Marx, who just wasn't "leader" (and the only intellectual in the group you conjured up here), Europe would have been better off without the assholes you named here. So what's your point here, if you have one?
EspressoFan4Life, you might want to reread Marx on the topic of jews - and maybe Jünger while you're at it. It's always good to have some knowledge of what you are talking about.
What makes me wonder is that in "The Worker" the "entire Jew" Ahasvar is a protagonist and that the nazis did not forbit it. And in "African Games" he wrote, that also Jewish girls have charms for the expert.
-> Anyway, the work that was really dangerous for Jünger was "On the Marble Cliffs".
If I'm not wrong it was Hermann Göring who protected Jünger. I read this in one of Jünger's "70 verweht" diaries. Jünger didn't know how much he was in danger and that (allegedly) Göring protected him. I don't think Göring and Jünger ever met but they were both war heroes (WW I) which was probably enough for Göring to view Jünger as a "comrade".
Thank you very much for your reply. Very interesting, indeed.
But as far as I know, it was Hitler himself, who protetected EJ, because he saw in him abother war hero (also Hitler only get the EK I) who survived by faith (or "die Vorsehung", as Hitler said).
Concerning Göring, I´ve read, that he was the idol for the "head forester" and in "Strahlungen I" it is supposed to say, that EJ has set himself in danger, because he made jokes about the "head forester".
Viele haben den 1. WK überlebt, das kann kein Grund sein. Juden, die im 1. WK tapfer gekämpft haben, bekamen AFAIK auch keine Privilegien unter H.
Sicher war H. beeindruckt von "In Stahlgewittern" und vom "Pour le Mérite": solch eine "Ikone" sägt ein Staat ungern ab, sondern versucht vielmehr, sich mit ihr zu schmücken. Wovor J. sich allerdings gedrückt hat. Sie konnten ihn also nicht vereinnahmen, wollten ihn, das Vorbild einer kriegerischen Jugend, aber auch nicht demontieren. ->
-> Mag sein, das der "Reichsjägermeister" die Figur des Oberförsters inspiriert hat. Aber ob Göring den Oberförster auf sich bezog? Göring und Jünger trugen beide den "Pour le Mérite" - vielleicht kam es G. gar nicht in den Sinn, dass ein solcher Kamerad und Held wie Jünger ihn lächerlich machen würde.
Mir persönlich ist Göring auch nicht "dämonisch" genug, um den Oberförster darzustellen. Die Frage ist also, wie weit die Inspiration ging.
No sorry, it is "necessarily bad to have anti-Jewish tendencies". Being "anti" (whatever this word is supposed to mean) any large & diverse group of people on the basis of such a superficial characteristic as ethnicity or religion (categorising people in this way) is not only a sign of imbecility, but also the source of the greater part of evil in recent history.
Was soll das, Jüngers Faszination mit Insektensammeln war bestimmt nicht das, was an ihm interessant war - im Gegenteil.
What kind of fan-crap is this, Jünger's fascination for collecting insects was certainly not the reason why one would discuss his person nowadays.
C'est quoi cette connerie, la fascination de Jünger pour les insectes n'est surement pas la raison pourquoi on discuterait sa personne et sa pensée au jourd'hui.
Che cosa è questa merda, la faszinatione di Jünger per gli insecti sicuramente non é la raggione perche ancora oggi lui é una persona chi vale essere discutata.
Is there any point to your messages? I read them several times now and I still see no real point or meaning. It seems you have become so nihilist and post-modern that even your own verbal abuse of others has become shallow. What a meaningless life you must lead.
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Stimmt, Moselfranke1987, "erfroscht" hat das Ernstl lauter bahnbrechende Dinge. Mir ist nur entfallen welche, aber da kannst Du bestimmt helfen.
An die Größe von Jünger kommt man allerdings relativ leicht heran, alles über 1,70 reicht auf jeden Fall aus, miss doch einfach mal bei Dir nach (in der Vertikalen natürlich, Idiot).
Als was würdest Du seine denn sonst Insektenkunde bezeichnen, d.h. seine Sammlungen, Manuskripte, Fotographien und Aufzeichnungen, die er über die Jahre zusammengestellt hat, wenn nicht als aktive Forschungsarbeit? Seine minutiöse Arbeit im Schwäbischen, die dazu geführt hat, dass sogar das BW-Wissenschafts- und Forschungsministerium einen Entomologiespreis nach ihm benannt?
Aber was versuche auch ich eine erbärmliche rote Ratte wie Dich von der Größe Jüngers zu überzeugen...
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Keine Ahnung, warum Du mich von der Größe Ernst Jüngers überzeugen willst.
Was Jüngers entomologische Arbeiten in Wilflingen angeht, so ist das sicherlich die fadeste und uninteressanteste Seite an ihm. Sich dafür zu erwärmen ist typisch für dumpfe rechte Lesart Jüngers, der am besten ist in seinen Brüchen, nicht in seinen Gewissheiten oder gar seinen unerträglichen Verbrämungen seines Versagens als "Waldgang" oder in der Figur des "Anarchen".
Hate speech? If I only hated him I wouldn´t know so much about him. I´ve got an ambivalent relationship to him. But it´s just a fact that he was right-winged...at least in the beginning of his career.
"und was ist dann falsch an konservativ sein?", tja Dummkopf, so ziemlich alles ist daran falsch. Was das mit Hass zu tun hat bleibt hier unerklärt, was nicht weiter überrascht.
Warum sollte er deswegen "entheroisiert" werden? Meiner Meinung nach eine weitere interessante Facette seiner faszinierenden Persönlichkeit. Parallelen su Nabokov kommen auf. Übrigens möchte ich an dieser Stelle die spanische Übersetzung von EJ loben. Erstklassig! Und mich für die unglaubliche Bereicherung, die Werk und Persönlichkeit von EJ auf mich hatten und haben, bedanken.
I totally agree, this modern day obsession about finding antisemitism anywhere and political correctness - which is the worst form of fascism. A brillant and superior mind like that of Ernst Jünger was above antisemitism. Nice to see that the master is appreciated in the US !!!
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For those who adore this man: He helped the nazis to come to power and was antidemocratic and antisemitic (even though he had Jewish friends, but that´s not unusual for antisemites).
Come again? He was actually on a death list of the nazis and he was only saved by AH personally! He was not antisemitic. He was actually one of the great minds of the 20th century. An aristocrat of the mind. More Jünger and less multicultural crap!!!!!
Of course, he was antisemitic. In the beginning of his career, he wrote, Jews should face the face, either to be Jews in Germany or not to be at all! He meant, Jews can not be Germans and shouldn´t have full citizens rights.
In "African Games" he wrote, that Spanish Girls are worth more than Jewish Girls (But Jewish girls could be liked by German boys, also, which was against the race laws of Nuremberg. The nazi censors seemed to be asleep.)
In "Heliopolis" he wrote, that you can´t deny, that the parses (he meant Jews) are too softend. But it´s correct, that he was against the killing of Jews and the yellow star.
it seems, you are the only one on this thread that actually read Jünger's books. You are completely right with what you say. I too have read most of his books (and for YT standards, I would count as radical left-wing) and felt a certain fascination for them.
But all in all, he's just an early fascist version of bourgeois existentialism - and there's better than that and less bloody.
This IS amazing a aristocratic high culture warrior in era of decadence he is such a ligh in the darkness!
ImperialGuard9001 9 months ago
This is what Ernst Jünger really liked above all - the Subtle Hunt!
Simon Friedrich
ErnstJuengerAnarch 1 year ago
Thank you!!!!!!
zakurtynom 1 year ago
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he was a very mediocre writer
not to mention a terrible idiot
German literature is incomparably over-rated
michelangeli23 2 years ago
when you've fought for your country being wounded 14 times, received the highest military honor , foreshadowed the fate of the story, narrated your life, resisted a dictator like Hitler, maintained relationships with men as Hiddeger or Schmitt
Only then you will be allowed to say that Junger is an idiot
useless man
RaymonddAguiliers 2 years ago 13
understandably you are an incompetent ass but try to reduce how much drivel you blather about in the course of your miserable existence for humanity's sake.
MrNobleSavagery 2 years ago
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Ernst Jünger, you were a Poet. Nobel-award winners of today just don't deserve that their names are mentioned beside yours.
DiegoElArbol 2 years ago
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No political labels, please. He has just been the greatest European writer of the 20th century.
Antaios100 2 years ago
national-bolshevik
myway012345 2 years ago
A man of style and culture (despite of the fashistic and antisemitic remarks in the past), in contrary to the vulgur cad Grass.
VitoPossilipo 3 years ago
Respeto para el anarca
closethebookoflongin 3 years ago
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A true nationalist hero who became catholic in the end.
Catholicism stands for God King and Country!
Pax Christi
Pro Patria
morrink 3 years ago
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You shouldn't try so hard to come across as elaborate, the effort carries you away and makes this comment little more than quibble, sorry.
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
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Actually, it was tetralingual.
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
Hm. I'm not sure you count your Spanish as fluent. Seems you piss people off.
Who knew?
livelifealwaystoo 3 years ago 2
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I don't, that is Italian.
You think they're pissed? I had the feeling they were happy to get some attention:)
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
jejejejeje
livelifealwaystoo 3 years ago
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Da hilft auch der tautologische username nichts, wenn mann noch nicht mal die wirklich besonderen Seiten seiner Helden versteht, da bleibt eigentlich nur die letzte patriotische Tat - just do it:)
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
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If you had some education, you wouldn't have to span several centuries to find the kind of anti-semites you were looking for, 20 years would have done the trick for you.
Apart from that, except for Marx, who just wasn't "leader" (and the only intellectual in the group you conjured up here), Europe would have been better off without the assholes you named here. So what's your point here, if you have one?
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
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EspressoFan4Life, you might want to reread Marx on the topic of jews - and maybe Jünger while you're at it. It's always good to have some knowledge of what you are talking about.
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
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Hm? I read Marx and Jünger and if you ask me the Jew Marx was much more anti-Jewish than the "goy" Jünger.
BTW, it isn't necessarily bad to have anti-Jewish tendencies.
EdGulli 3 years ago
Thank you for that comment.
What makes me wonder is that in "The Worker" the "entire Jew" Ahasvar is a protagonist and that the nazis did not forbit it. And in "African Games" he wrote, that also Jewish girls have charms for the expert.
I anticipate for your reply.
P.S.: What does "goy" mean?
VitoPossilipo 3 years ago
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Maybe they didn't forbid "The Worker" but they didn't like it.
Jünger despised the Third Reich and the state viewed Jünger with mistrust.
The barbarity of the Third Reich was an insult for Jünger's elitist attitude, intelligence and humanism.
I think if Jünger hadn't been a war hero and author of "Storm of Steel" he would have gotten in a lot of trouble. ->
EdGulli 3 years ago
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-> Anyway, the work that was really dangerous for Jünger was "On the Marble Cliffs".
If I'm not wrong it was Hermann Göring who protected Jünger. I read this in one of Jünger's "70 verweht" diaries. Jünger didn't know how much he was in danger and that (allegedly) Göring protected him. I don't think Göring and Jünger ever met but they were both war heroes (WW I) which was probably enough for Göring to view Jünger as a "comrade".
PS.: 'Goy' is Hebrew and means non-Jew (Gentile).
EdGulli 3 years ago
Thank you very much for your reply. Very interesting, indeed.
But as far as I know, it was Hitler himself, who protetected EJ, because he saw in him abother war hero (also Hitler only get the EK I) who survived by faith (or "die Vorsehung", as Hitler said).
Concerning Göring, I´ve read, that he was the idol for the "head forester" and in "Strahlungen I" it is supposed to say, that EJ has set himself in danger, because he made jokes about the "head forester".
VitoPossilipo 3 years ago
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Viele haben den 1. WK überlebt, das kann kein Grund sein. Juden, die im 1. WK tapfer gekämpft haben, bekamen AFAIK auch keine Privilegien unter H.
Sicher war H. beeindruckt von "In Stahlgewittern" und vom "Pour le Mérite": solch eine "Ikone" sägt ein Staat ungern ab, sondern versucht vielmehr, sich mit ihr zu schmücken. Wovor J. sich allerdings gedrückt hat. Sie konnten ihn also nicht vereinnahmen, wollten ihn, das Vorbild einer kriegerischen Jugend, aber auch nicht demontieren. ->
EdGulli 3 years ago
-> Mag sein, das der "Reichsjägermeister" die Figur des Oberförsters inspiriert hat. Aber ob Göring den Oberförster auf sich bezog? Göring und Jünger trugen beide den "Pour le Mérite" - vielleicht kam es G. gar nicht in den Sinn, dass ein solcher Kamerad und Held wie Jünger ihn lächerlich machen würde.
Mir persönlich ist Göring auch nicht "dämonisch" genug, um den Oberförster darzustellen. Die Frage ist also, wie weit die Inspiration ging.
EdGulli 3 years ago
Vielen Dank für Deine Antwort. Ich habe das nur mal so gelesen, aber Deine Argumente sind sehr gut.
Was bedeutet bitte AFAIK?
VitoPossilipo 3 years ago
'soweit ich weiß' (As Far As I Know - Netzjargon)
EdGulli 3 years ago
No sorry, it is "necessarily bad to have anti-Jewish tendencies". Being "anti" (whatever this word is supposed to mean) any large & diverse group of people on the basis of such a superficial characteristic as ethnicity or religion (categorising people in this way) is not only a sign of imbecility, but also the source of the greater part of evil in recent history.
Alessandro1985 2 years ago 2
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Was soll das, Jüngers Faszination mit Insektensammeln war bestimmt nicht das, was an ihm interessant war - im Gegenteil.
What kind of fan-crap is this, Jünger's fascination for collecting insects was certainly not the reason why one would discuss his person nowadays.
C'est quoi cette connerie, la fascination de Jünger pour les insectes n'est surement pas la raison pourquoi on discuterait sa personne et sa pensée au jourd'hui.
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
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Che cosa è questa merda, la faszinatione di Jünger per gli insecti sicuramente non é la raggione perche ancora oggi lui é una persona chi vale essere discutata.
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
Is there any point to your messages? I read them several times now and I still see no real point or meaning. It seems you have become so nihilist and post-modern that even your own verbal abuse of others has become shallow. What a meaningless life you must lead.
Eskadron22 3 years ago 2
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So you think my verbal abuse of others used to be brilliant? Why, thank you.
Wasn't it you, that called someone who stated that he had an "ambivalent relationship to him" hateful?
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
fantastic..
baroh2413 4 years ago
Was dieser Mann gedacht, erfroscht, bewegt und vor allem erlebt hat, einfach unglaublich! Diese Bilder sind sehr bewegend.
Diejenigen, die heute noch über ihn herziehen, kommen doch an die Größe eines Ernst Jüngers ran.
Moselfranke1987 4 years ago
... nicht ran!
lovetank3000 3 years ago
Mea culpa, Du hast natürlich recht!
Moselfranke1987 3 years ago
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Stimmt, Moselfranke1987, "erfroscht" hat das Ernstl lauter bahnbrechende Dinge. Mir ist nur entfallen welche, aber da kannst Du bestimmt helfen.
An die Größe von Jünger kommt man allerdings relativ leicht heran, alles über 1,70 reicht auf jeden Fall aus, miss doch einfach mal bei Dir nach (in der Vertikalen natürlich, Idiot).
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
Als was würdest Du seine denn sonst Insektenkunde bezeichnen, d.h. seine Sammlungen, Manuskripte, Fotographien und Aufzeichnungen, die er über die Jahre zusammengestellt hat, wenn nicht als aktive Forschungsarbeit? Seine minutiöse Arbeit im Schwäbischen, die dazu geführt hat, dass sogar das BW-Wissenschafts- und Forschungsministerium einen Entomologiespreis nach ihm benannt?
Aber was versuche auch ich eine erbärmliche rote Ratte wie Dich von der Größe Jüngers zu überzeugen...
Moselfranke1987 3 years ago 4
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Keine Ahnung, warum Du mich von der Größe Ernst Jüngers überzeugen willst.
Was Jüngers entomologische Arbeiten in Wilflingen angeht, so ist das sicherlich die fadeste und uninteressanteste Seite an ihm. Sich dafür zu erwärmen ist typisch für dumpfe rechte Lesart Jüngers, der am besten ist in seinen Brüchen, nicht in seinen Gewissheiten oder gar seinen unerträglichen Verbrämungen seines Versagens als "Waldgang" oder in der Figur des "Anarchen".
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
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Das Beste was ihm widerfahren ist, ist seine kritische Rezeption in Frankreich und bei Theweleit.
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
Hate speech? If I only hated him I wouldn´t know so much about him. I´ve got an ambivalent relationship to him. But it´s just a fact that he was right-winged...at least in the beginning of his career.
VitoPossilipo 4 years ago
Meine Gute, und was ist dann falsch an konservativ sein? Was für ein hasserfüllter Mensch sind Sie denn nicht?
Eskadron22 3 years ago 2
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"und was ist dann falsch an konservativ sein?", tja Dummkopf, so ziemlich alles ist daran falsch. Was das mit Hass zu tun hat bleibt hier unerklärt, was nicht weiter überrascht.
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
Warum sollte er deswegen "entheroisiert" werden? Meiner Meinung nach eine weitere interessante Facette seiner faszinierenden Persönlichkeit. Parallelen su Nabokov kommen auf. Übrigens möchte ich an dieser Stelle die spanische Übersetzung von EJ loben. Erstklassig! Und mich für die unglaubliche Bereicherung, die Werk und Persönlichkeit von EJ auf mich hatten und haben, bedanken.
AEvictor39 4 years ago
I totally agree, this modern day obsession about finding antisemitism anywhere and political correctness - which is the worst form of fascism. A brillant and superior mind like that of Ernst Jünger was above antisemitism. Nice to see that the master is appreciated in the US !!!
AEvictor39 4 years ago 3
Bravo, Bravo! Incredibly well said!
Eskadron22 3 years ago
Ernst Jünger auf subtiler Jagd! Un petit bijou!
Merci beaucoup pour ce cadeau ...
AEvictor39 4 years ago
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For those who adore this man: He helped the nazis to come to power and was antidemocratic and antisemitic (even though he had Jewish friends, but that´s not unusual for antisemites).
VitoPossilipo 4 years ago
Come again? He was actually on a death list of the nazis and he was only saved by AH personally! He was not antisemitic. He was actually one of the great minds of the 20th century. An aristocrat of the mind. More Jünger and less multicultural crap!!!!!
AEvictor39 4 years ago 2
Of course, he was antisemitic. In the beginning of his career, he wrote, Jews should face the face, either to be Jews in Germany or not to be at all! He meant, Jews can not be Germans and shouldn´t have full citizens rights.
In "African Games" he wrote, that Spanish Girls are worth more than Jewish Girls (But Jewish girls could be liked by German boys, also, which was against the race laws of Nuremberg. The nazi censors seemed to be asleep.)
VitoPossilipo 4 years ago
In "Heliopolis" he wrote, that you can´t deny, that the parses (he meant Jews) are too softend. But it´s correct, that he was against the killing of Jews and the yellow star.
VitoPossilipo 4 years ago 2
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Dear VitoPossipilo,
it seems, you are the only one on this thread that actually read Jünger's books. You are completely right with what you say. I too have read most of his books (and for YT standards, I would count as radical left-wing) and felt a certain fascination for them.
But all in all, he's just an early fascist version of bourgeois existentialism - and there's better than that and less bloody.
All the best to you.
xmaIdoror 3 years ago
thanks for watching.
MYGALEFILMS 4 years ago