First - I'm not a brother, Second - I don't have a Hebrew bible & third - the KJV is good enough for me. I'm not jewish. I'm not under the law. Jesus died to fulfil that law & the law was used as a tutor to bring us to Jesus. Once we accepted His salvation, we no longer had the need for the tutor. Read Gal. 3:22-26. We are no longer under the law, but under the grace of Christ. I can't make you believe in the rapture or when it happens, but neither will you make me disbelieve.
@01usad - Because I would rather be watching & waiting & doing His service now & be wrong concerning His coming, than to not be watching & not be doing His service & be wrong. Therefore, whichever it is, I won't be surprised or caught off guard, whereas, many will be. Escpecially those who don't believe in pre-trib or the rapture. If you believe it is mid-way or after the trib, then you would know the exact day & hour, because the trib starts the day & hour the 7 year peace treaty is signed.
@01usad - And when you see Israel surrounded by her enemies, then look up & know your redemption is near. And we are seeing Israel surrounded by her enemies & unfortunately for the US, we are seeing our government going against Israel as well. A sad day for many of us Americans who love the Israelis & Israel & who stand by her & her people. God's chosen people. Whom He brought back into the land after almost 2000 years of dispersement.
@01usad - There are two types of trumpets, the trumpet you speaking of is a different type of trumpet, do a study on this & you'll find out. Especially in the OT where Moses is given what each trumpet represents. The trumpet in Revelation, is a wrath trumpet. When Christ comes to reign & give judgement, there will be no need for a rapture at that time. The last trumpet in 1Thes. is a "call" from Yeshua to His bride to come up. We are called to meet Him in the air, not on land
There is no free pass, no do not pass go... everybody is going through the tribulation. The children of Israel did not get a free pass to the Promised Land and neither will we. God tested Israel and He will test us again. Maybe that's where the "Great Falling Away" comes from. All those who will be disillusioned by the lie the Church has be spreading all these years. Pre-Trib is not scriptural. It's man-made. Try something new...read your bible today...for yourself. Outloud. Today.
@01usad _ The reason the children of Israel didn't get a free pass was because of lack of faith, but their children entered in. The one thing that pre-tribs having going for them is this: If the rapture doesn't happen before the trib, we won't be surprised, but those who refuse to believe it won't happen & it does, will be surprised. The rapture comes as a thief in the night, at any other time, like mid-way, you'll know when it happens, therefore, it wouldn't be as a thief in the night.
That's all great except for the fact that Jews are Khazar Ashkenazis, not Israelites from Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham. The Ashkenazim were fathered by Ashkenaz whom was descended from Japheth, not Shem.
The real Israelites of the scripture are the modern western european peoples. The Celts, Anglo Saxons, etc.
Sorry, but I don't agree with you. God said that the Jews will return back into their land(Ezekial 36 &37). God doesn't lie. He is also able to keep the jewish bloodline pure. The Jews came back into their land in 1948 & became a nation in one day as prophesied. Are you calling God a liar & that He is not able to do as He said He would do or are you listening to man & not what the Holy Spirit is interpreting to you? Regardless of what you have been taught, they are His people in His land.
I don't give a shit what your opinion is, what I said is FACT. The Jews are a mixture of Edomite, Hittite, Ashkenaz, and Canaanite. Their father is Esau, not Jacob. Even the Encyclopedia Judaica from the 1920s admits Modern Jewry is Edomite. Even further, the Jews do not fit the Marks of Israel as laid out in the Old Testament. They are not a great sea-faring or farming people. They are merchants and money-lenders.
I really don't care what you think either. I do know for a fact that the Jews are from the tribe of jacob. All twelve tribes of them. From which of these twelve tribes are you referring to. Esau IS the Edomites. jacob came to him with his wife & animals. They were brothers or do you not remember that? The truth will be shown in the end & it won't be me proving it, but rather by the power & hand of God. You might want to be sure which side you really want to be on.
Esau sold his birthright by marrying marrying Canaanite and Hittite wives. This is why God hated Esau because he mixed with non Israelite women. Such things were against YHVH's commandments. He commanded his people to kill the Canaanites and not let them survive.
The Jews are Edomites at best, not Israelites, whom YHVH hated and warned against. Most of the Jews today are Sephardic and Ashkenazim, whom were ancestors of Japheth, not Shem. Your delusion shattered.
Sorry sweetie,but my delusion is not shattered nor do I have a delusion.I do have the truth which is written in the word of God by the Spirit of God as He moved upon men to write & to keep & to pass down.Esau sold his birthright because he was hungry & Jacob fed him, it was not because he married a Canannite or Hittite woman.If you're going spew your hatred towards Jews,as least get your facts straight.You & I have gone over this before. Know this-that God is true in what He says,not man,or you.
SurviveWorldWarIII - Read about Noah. Esau came from the line of Cush. Jacob (aka - Israel) from the line of Shem who down the line came Abraham. This is when God started calling them His people (after Abraham). What is it to you what their bloodline is? God ssaid that they would come back into the land & they have. He said that Isarel would become a wealthy & mighty nations & it has. He also said people would hate them & they do & want to wipe them off the map-also predicted.
Esau came from Cush? WTF are you talking about? Esau was twin brothers with Jacob, both fathered by Isaac.
What is so hard to understand about this? The Jews are NOT Israelites! Am I speaking in Chinese? Can you not read?
Heritage, genetics, lineage, and race mattered in the Bible. You got your citizenship based off of heritage and ancestry. Do you know what the word Adam means in Hebrew? I bet you don't.
SurviveWorldWarIII - I can read, can you? I said the bloodline. I know that they are brothers.Esau lived in the land of Seir (Edom) & Jacob went & lived in Hebron. I told you that before, did you not read it. Regardless of what you think, the Israelites in Israel are God's chosen people rather you like it or not. No ifs,ands or buts about it. As I said, the truth will be known & it won't be me proving it to you or to anyone else. God does not lie.
Zionist and Rothschild own 60% of Isreal. Which is run by the illuminati and Jesuits! look at the flag of Isreal! it is a HEXAGRAM of Solomons Temple and FREEMASONRY! God says he will bring them back, does not sat when! and we Gentiles are grafted in, so this is the New Jerusalem! not now! Jesuits (Lucifer) are trying to get Hebrews back to kill them.
First - I'm not a brother, Second - I don't have a Hebrew bible & third - the KJV is good enough for me. I'm not jewish. I'm not under the law. Jesus died to fulfil that law & the law was used as a tutor to bring us to Jesus. Once we accepted His salvation, we no longer had the need for the tutor. Read Gal. 3:22-26. We are no longer under the law, but under the grace of Christ. I can't make you believe in the rapture or when it happens, but neither will you make me disbelieve.
kamicka23 11 months ago
Brother...you don't have a clue...do you? You need to re-read those Hebrew Scriptures and ask the Holy Spirit to open your eyes.
No need to reply. I won't be here.
01usad 11 months ago
@01usad - Because I would rather be watching & waiting & doing His service now & be wrong concerning His coming, than to not be watching & not be doing His service & be wrong. Therefore, whichever it is, I won't be surprised or caught off guard, whereas, many will be. Escpecially those who don't believe in pre-trib or the rapture. If you believe it is mid-way or after the trib, then you would know the exact day & hour, because the trib starts the day & hour the 7 year peace treaty is signed.
kamicka23 11 months ago
@01usad - And when you see Israel surrounded by her enemies, then look up & know your redemption is near. And we are seeing Israel surrounded by her enemies & unfortunately for the US, we are seeing our government going against Israel as well. A sad day for many of us Americans who love the Israelis & Israel & who stand by her & her people. God's chosen people. Whom He brought back into the land after almost 2000 years of dispersement.
kamicka23 11 months ago
But we do know when the rapture will happen. At the last trump...the day of the Lord, we Yeshua, then called YHVH, sets foot on the Mount of Olives.
01usad 11 months ago
@01usad - There are two types of trumpets, the trumpet you speaking of is a different type of trumpet, do a study on this & you'll find out. Especially in the OT where Moses is given what each trumpet represents. The trumpet in Revelation, is a wrath trumpet. When Christ comes to reign & give judgement, there will be no need for a rapture at that time. The last trumpet in 1Thes. is a "call" from Yeshua to His bride to come up. We are called to meet Him in the air, not on land
kamicka23 11 months ago
There is no free pass, no do not pass go... everybody is going through the tribulation. The children of Israel did not get a free pass to the Promised Land and neither will we. God tested Israel and He will test us again. Maybe that's where the "Great Falling Away" comes from. All those who will be disillusioned by the lie the Church has be spreading all these years. Pre-Trib is not scriptural. It's man-made. Try something new...read your bible today...for yourself. Outloud. Today.
01usad 11 months ago
@01usad _ The reason the children of Israel didn't get a free pass was because of lack of faith, but their children entered in. The one thing that pre-tribs having going for them is this: If the rapture doesn't happen before the trib, we won't be surprised, but those who refuse to believe it won't happen & it does, will be surprised. The rapture comes as a thief in the night, at any other time, like mid-way, you'll know when it happens, therefore, it wouldn't be as a thief in the night.
kamicka23 11 months ago
That's all great except for the fact that Jews are Khazar Ashkenazis, not Israelites from Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham. The Ashkenazim were fathered by Ashkenaz whom was descended from Japheth, not Shem.
The real Israelites of the scripture are the modern western european peoples. The Celts, Anglo Saxons, etc.
SurviveWorldWarIII 2 years ago
Sorry, but I don't agree with you. God said that the Jews will return back into their land(Ezekial 36 &37). God doesn't lie. He is also able to keep the jewish bloodline pure. The Jews came back into their land in 1948 & became a nation in one day as prophesied. Are you calling God a liar & that He is not able to do as He said He would do or are you listening to man & not what the Holy Spirit is interpreting to you? Regardless of what you have been taught, they are His people in His land.
kamicka23 2 years ago
I don't give a shit what your opinion is, what I said is FACT. The Jews are a mixture of Edomite, Hittite, Ashkenaz, and Canaanite. Their father is Esau, not Jacob. Even the Encyclopedia Judaica from the 1920s admits Modern Jewry is Edomite. Even further, the Jews do not fit the Marks of Israel as laid out in the Old Testament. They are not a great sea-faring or farming people. They are merchants and money-lenders.
SurviveWorldWarIII 2 years ago
I really don't care what you think either. I do know for a fact that the Jews are from the tribe of jacob. All twelve tribes of them. From which of these twelve tribes are you referring to. Esau IS the Edomites. jacob came to him with his wife & animals. They were brothers or do you not remember that? The truth will be shown in the end & it won't be me proving it, but rather by the power & hand of God. You might want to be sure which side you really want to be on.
kamicka23 2 years ago
Esau sold his birthright by marrying marrying Canaanite and Hittite wives. This is why God hated Esau because he mixed with non Israelite women. Such things were against YHVH's commandments. He commanded his people to kill the Canaanites and not let them survive.
The Jews are Edomites at best, not Israelites, whom YHVH hated and warned against. Most of the Jews today are Sephardic and Ashkenazim, whom were ancestors of Japheth, not Shem. Your delusion shattered.
SurviveWorldWarIII 2 years ago
Sorry sweetie,but my delusion is not shattered nor do I have a delusion.I do have the truth which is written in the word of God by the Spirit of God as He moved upon men to write & to keep & to pass down.Esau sold his birthright because he was hungry & Jacob fed him, it was not because he married a Canannite or Hittite woman.If you're going spew your hatred towards Jews,as least get your facts straight.You & I have gone over this before. Know this-that God is true in what He says,not man,or you.
kamicka23 2 years ago
Most Jews are Ashkenazim. Ashkenaz in the Bible descends from whom? Shem, Ham, or Japheth?
Case Closed.
SurviveWorldWarIII 2 years ago
SurviveWorldWarIII - Read about Noah. Esau came from the line of Cush. Jacob (aka - Israel) from the line of Shem who down the line came Abraham. This is when God started calling them His people (after Abraham). What is it to you what their bloodline is? God ssaid that they would come back into the land & they have. He said that Isarel would become a wealthy & mighty nations & it has. He also said people would hate them & they do & want to wipe them off the map-also predicted.
kamicka23 2 years ago
Esau came from Cush? WTF are you talking about? Esau was twin brothers with Jacob, both fathered by Isaac.
What is so hard to understand about this? The Jews are NOT Israelites! Am I speaking in Chinese? Can you not read?
Heritage, genetics, lineage, and race mattered in the Bible. You got your citizenship based off of heritage and ancestry. Do you know what the word Adam means in Hebrew? I bet you don't.
SurviveWorldWarIII 2 years ago
SurviveWorldWarIII - I can read, can you? I said the bloodline. I know that they are brothers.Esau lived in the land of Seir (Edom) & Jacob went & lived in Hebron. I told you that before, did you not read it. Regardless of what you think, the Israelites in Israel are God's chosen people rather you like it or not. No ifs,ands or buts about it. As I said, the truth will be known & it won't be me proving it to you or to anyone else. God does not lie.
kamicka23 2 years ago
Zionist and Rothschild own 60% of Isreal. Which is run by the illuminati and Jesuits! look at the flag of Isreal! it is a HEXAGRAM of Solomons Temple and FREEMASONRY! God says he will bring them back, does not sat when! and we Gentiles are grafted in, so this is the New Jerusalem! not now! Jesuits (Lucifer) are trying to get Hebrews back to kill them.
mattandpatti222 2 years ago