@Walgar2, it doesn't take much to look semi-competent, yet the producers of "Sarah's Alaska" didn't coach Palin on basic firearm handling. A few seconds of watching the clip, and it's obvious Sarah doesn't have the most basic of clues:
1. Your finger should only enter the trigger guard when you intend to shoot. See 2:38
2. Holding the trigger guard against your body is not a rifle carry. See 2:52
3. Be stable and move the rifle with the target (why Sarah's first shot missed). See 1:50-2:26
@ZangaroZen When I was 15, I went to Air Cadets and learned a bit about cleaning rifle barrels and sighting a rifle using a tripod. Summer of 1994 saw me in Alaska on a roadtrip and the locals would use road signs as targets for sighting purposes, outside of city limits of course. Something Sarah forgot was to sight her firearm. I give her credit for not being easily embarrassed. You have a good eye, ZZ!
@walgar2, for "Sarah's Alaska" someone else obviously bore sighted, and calibrated each scope at a range. After all Sarah can't do a proper rifle carry ie 2:52
Palin makes complete beginner mistakes:
1. A novice's finger will always naturally enter the trigger guard rather than remain extended ie 2:38
2. Shoot when the target moves into the scope and/or stop tracking with the target (ie anticipate the recoil) just before the shot, making misses more likely. See f8jx6_yuFgw at 0:25 (con't)
@ZangaroZen #2 the anticipation of recoil is what most of us shooters & hunters call flinching ,some even close their eyes in this peocess , Iv'e seen people on the range spewing hits all over the place due to this flinch esp some of these macho types who go out and buy these mags, even a .30 cal magnam can be bruseing from the bench or prone position in sporter weight without recoil reduceing measures,once you get up into the .338s and above it gets brutial !
3. after Palin misses, the excuse is to switch rifles (at clip end she blames the scope calibration, rather than admit point 2), and is told REPEATEDLY to wait for the carribou to stop (ie she can't hit a moving target)
4. Palin doesn't have the good sense to approach the downed carribou cautiously rifle at the ready, and has to be warned TWICE. There's a splice (obviously others verified the kill) then Sarah is staged feet away from the carribou and declares it dead (con't)
@ZangaroZen #3 she actually empties the first rifle twice,it looks like a Winchester while the guy next to her chambers a round in what looks to be a Remington setting the saftey,looking like he's wanting to shoot, personaly I don't think she made the kill theres no evidence just the scope thing & a side veiw of Palin shooting, I figure the old man on her left made that shot,besides she missed all the broadside shots and supposedly makes the difficult head on shot ? give me a break !......LOL
@kamphwagon1, saw Sarah empty the first rifle ONCE specifically at 1:51, then shoot with the second rifle ONCE at 2:26. Very suspiciously how the kill was sliced, as Sarah is never seen actually making the kill. Also there is an obvious splice at 2:57 when obviously the men check that the carribou is dead before Sarah is staged and declares it's dead from 4' away.
What the hell kind of rifle carry is Sarah using at 2:53? Never seen such a BS carry before.
@ZangaroZen She actually emptied the first twice in one of the longer vedios theres several versions here on YT,the old guy to her left even works the bolt for her and reloads it once, if you look close it apears there was two diffrent animals ,driffent size antlers, even some of the broadside shots should have made atleast a gut shot and the animals head on shot is harder to make than the misses she made, even with it standing, not moveing .
@kamphwagon1, never seen "Sarah's Alaska" a part from a few clips, the one in this video being the longest.
I'll take your word, and not surprised, that Sarah missed twice with the first rifle and couldn't work the bolt in a longer version of the video. You're probably right about antler size varying in the few very quick splices.
My 10 year old brother and a few minutes coaching could handle a rifle better than Sarah does. Sadly the redneck morons Sarah caters to think it's all real.
@ZangaroZen LOl yeah I see you found the veido I was talking about,you probably also noticed in a lot of those broadside shots the animal or animals were standing , not moveing ,easy shots to make for a seasoned hunter/marksperson a dead give away to someone else making the head on kill shot ! To be honest about it I doubt if Mrs Palin could a bull in the ass with a bass fidle if it were standing in frount of her !
Check out this video zL7B7L7nZlE; yeah that's right Sarah missed SIX yes SIX times with the first rifle and her dad had to work the bolt FOUR yes FOUR times for her. If it wasn't for the world's most fucktarded carribou(s) (there may have been more than one, spliced together as one kill) that didn't have the good sense to run away from any of the SIX noisy misses and Sarah's out in the open group, there'd be no kill.
@ZangaroZen Well i'l gaurentee you she'd starve to death with her hunting abilitys where I deer hunt,white tails don't hang around verry often after the first shot only the verry small young ones like the rather small caribou shot here, I doubt that animal would feild dress 200lbs,lots of hair on carribou, it makes them look larger than they realy are. Once a hunter becomes comfortable and confident with his firearm one shot humane kills become the rule on a hunt !
@kamphwagon1, thanks to you, my previous opinion of Sarah's complete ameteurish incompetency and outright lying, have been proven far to generous.
Check this video out g5LjaxJohLU from 0:28-0:58. That's right, Sarah posing with a rifle, means she's an extraordinarily amazing Amnnie Oakley shot to the moron media and those they lead around by the nose.
@ZangaroZen Well theres nothing wrong with being decent in matters of critisisim, but obvious fraud snake oil PR grifter sales pitches require a more drastic approach ! Have you seen the Palin/ Goslin clips ? now thats a hoot LOL it's where two egotistical moron bitch monsters take a camping trip togeather in Alaska LOL it's like two sore tailed tom cats at a Mexican stand off , the tension between the two is rather obvious ,with a cat fight looking for a place to happen !..... LOL
@ZangaroZen Yeah how did you like the blonde vs brunnet Mexican stand off where these two ego moron bitch monsters met LOL there both like the woman that every neigborhood seems to have medeling in everones buisness with their holly than thou attitude, that every kid on the block loves to hate, and every one else just wishes they'd just move off the face of the earth LOL
@ZangaroZen LOL yeah shes a grifter probably has some ideas on how to make money off of a presidential bid, like her Delaware pick O'Donnell did on her numerous senate bids,or probably wants to get some more subject matter for another book seeing how sales on the current two are in a slump ! She dosen't give a shit about the GOP or Tea Party it's all about Sarah , her over inflated ego and the money. Could be she needs some new clothes, those she got in 08 are over 2years old and out of style !
@kamphwagon1, heard she made at least $10M on the speaking circuit last year. I mean how stupid are her supporters? Bottom line is she's a 2 years early resigned Governor who doesn't have a clue about the most basic general knowledge, guns, hunting and the great outdoors included. If Palin ever gets elected at anything again, your and my guesses summed together won't be nearly good enough to predict all the national, economical, and environmental damage she's capable of.
@ZangaroZen Yeah that is't no shit , this womans ideas on nearly everything are complete drivel ,not to mention her over inflated self worth and rather childesh ideas of her qualfications, going so far as to argue with Websters over what a proper word is over a hick mispronounceation ,when you start adding up all this ignorant BS shes done in the last few years it ceases to be funny and rather disturbing that she has any followers at all !..
@kamphwagon1, it's pathetically sad that the very very best that the GOP/Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party, and Libertarians have to offer is Sarah Palin.
@ZangaroZen It's worse than sad ,it borders on the edge of criminal ignorance as I see it ! most seem to overlook her family involvement in the Alaskan Independence party a militant sucesionest bunch with Joe Vogel as their leader who has mysterously disapeared after makeing a trip to the UN , suposedly to enlist Iranan help in their cause. Sarah supported them a governor, passed legislation to prevet the outlawing of militas in Alaska,lots of states have outlawed these paramilitary exersizes !.
@ZangaroZen cont. All this came out in 08 after she made the Obama / Aires remark during the campagin, the difference being Bill had payed his debt to society and learned to effect political change peacefully, unlike Vogel and members of the AIP whom have since faded fom the spot light except for the Palin members, then you have all those questionable state scandels, trouper gate , problems with the Canadan pipe line contractor, her quitting, Alaskans are not happy campers with Sarah ! LOL......
@kamphwagon1, Jesus H Christ, the AIP help fund Palin's Wasilla major bid and later Governor bid and had "open door" access to her while she held both offices and tried to get AIP members into government with her. Todd was a card carrying AIP member for a decade, and Sarah spoke at many AIP conventions. This woman is a locked and loaded loose canon. salonDOTcom/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson
@ZangaroZen Yep the more you dig the worse it gets with Palin, odd that the twit Bachman would have any thing to do with with Palin after her remarks about un- Americans in congress wanting to launch a McCarthyism witch hunt of the late 40s and in the same bed with Palin , it makes one wonder about these Teabaggers. Theres also testimony from AIP members that Sarah was indeed a member here on YT , just maybe not on paper . I'm afraid theres more skeletons in her closet than the Aushwitz ovens.
@kamphwagon1, can see the Tea Party's broad concerns, question is where the fuck were they 30 years ago when Reagan deregulated and encouraged industry to flee America with millions of jobs, while the national debt ballooned courtesy of trickle down economics. Then there's Bush Jr. false war nonsense, 6000KIA, 40000WIA and more massive debts courtesy of tax cuts for the rich. Still no Teabaggers. W. hands off an economy about to collapse and the Teabaggers finally show up screaming laissez faire
@ZangaroZen LOL thats a no brainer they were all voteing for the Neo Cons starting with Reagan, since Jr is such a big embarresment and a lot of them don't like the idea of a black in the white house they had to come up with somthing besides belonging to the GOP, the problem is their canidates aren't even as smart as Bush Jr LOL Palin cost the GOP control of the senate with her Tebagger picks, endorseing idiots like Sharon Angle & Christeen "human brains on mice'' O'Donnell !....
@ZangaroZen Hey I read the article at the web site you posted , and I would say it's pretty accurate but didn't address the other issues she had as governor just the AIP. The only thing I can see as comon bonding thread among Teabaggers is RW christian extremeism, some have ligit issues in aeras as natl debt, excess gov spending and the wars but have complete whacko ideas in other areas, I noticed you don't like NAFTA or the Chinese out sorceing , dito here, the Tea/Republicans are mum on this !
@kamphwagon1, yes the article sited only deals with Palin's AIP ties.
Can see Tea Partyer concerns over national debt, balanced budget, and minimal ie efficient government. Question is where the hell were the Tea Partyers when Reagan and the Bushs went on wild spending sprees while encouraging industry to move offshore (being "mum on this" is silent consent). All for freer trade but not at the benefit of mostly the rich and at the expense of the domestic economy.
@ZangaroZen Union busting and NAFTA was the roadmap Reagen left to the Neo Cons to benefit their rich cronies the fortuene 500 CEOs and major stock holders,destroy the middle class and turn America into a banana republic, these Neo Cons and Teabaggers alike often acuse Obama of class warfare, somthing thev'e been practiceing for 20 years,with shiping jobs out of America , with no monatary penilties on goods brought back in to be sold to those who lost the job making what their selling !
@kamphwagon1, America is not the only country where anti-middle class lobbists have had their way for the last 30 years, meaning the genies worldwide are going to be extremely hard to return to the bottle. Can start by restricting election financing to renumeration per vote earned up to expenses incurred. Next change the definition of corporation from a pseudo person to a non-person liable entity. Then restrict lobbying to public forums. In short return all political power to the people.
@ZangaroZen That would most likely return politics where it belongs with the people ! NAFTA is a national economic disaster on our industrial base, and is as simple as a 3rd grade seience exersize of mixing water of 3 diffrent temps,except it's economies IE #1 USA hot, Canada #2 warm , Mexico #3 cold and depending on how shity it realy is, will reduce our economic status while raiseing that of the top classes with profit enjoyed from cheap labor and lax regulations.
@kamphwagon1, after NAFTA 1000s of companies relocated American factories just over the Mexican border. Trading American jobs for Mexican labor and lax laws, and eroding the American middle class for a tiny rich minority's benefit.
Add a voter only non-tax credit restriction on political contributions, and corporations would be cut out completely from backing/controlling politicians, leaving them only public forum lobbying. Next require public disclosure of any donations over 1% of a campaign
@ZangaroZen Huh, no doubt about that, I live in a city that gave tax concessions,spent 100 of thousands on unility infistructure, to accomidate a new manufactureing plant only to have all the real manufacturing jobs moved to Mexico leaveing it only as a distribution center, 100s lost jobs and those that keept them faced income losses , cuts in pay with reduced hrs,while upper management gave theirselves raises, typical corp CEO greed,as if these fuckers wern't makeing 6 figures or more beforhand
@kamphwagon1, heard it all before. WalMart selling Chinese junk is infamous for demanding years of waived taxes and millions in cash incentives to open a store, which then bankrupts local competition while replacing descent paying jobs with minimum wage jobs with minimal benefits while welfare/taxpayers pick up the rest of the tab. Watch 3GINui9LdIQ
Capitalism works great in distinct markets provided there are no huge players and/or monopolies.
@ZangaroZen Yeah wallmart is one of the bigest detrements to local small buisness,along with autozone & O'Rilleys who move in cut prices and carry huge inventorys untill the competion is eliminated,then they don't keep shit,and have to order everthing and depending on what it is pay shiping, hell you can do that online, I don't deal with these people much except for maybe a oil filter or somthing small, I even order motor oil online from a distributor who pays the shipping , piss on em !
@kamphwagon1, if idiot conservatives get their way and fully implement trickle down economics, the rich will eventually pay no tax, the theory being that they'll reinvest tax cuts in America rather than flee their money out of the country as has been done for 3 decades. National debt incurred from for the rich tax breaks will grow rapidly, while middle/lower classes taxes will continually raise as they, not the rich, will be on the hook to pay off the debts incurred by for the rich tax breaks.
@ZangaroZen No doubt about that one on Reagans trickle down economics, a complete failure thats had a better than a 20year run thats never amounted to squat except to make the rich richer. The only way to make these supper rich to invest in America is to Tax the hell out of them force them to invest it or lose it otherwise they' just hoard it somewhere, Shit how many jobs are these luxury items they buy produce,seeing how they only account for 2% of the pop ,what the 2% buys dosen't amount squat
@kamphwagon1, check out my other post regarding "monopolistic capitalism".
You got that right, Reagan's trickle down economics over 3 decades "amounted to squat except to make the rich richer".
Agreed, "tax the hell out of [the rich or have] them reinvest".
Conservative/Libertarians scream the rich will "go on vacation" or "reduce job creation" rather then make more taxable money. BS! That's where real capitalism comes in. Go on vacation and others else will muscle in on your business.
@ZangaroZen Actually the monopolistic beast is growing instead of shrinking, it's about time for some good ole trust busting like in the 30s where Standard Oil was busted up, owned by the Rockerfellers, big oil has gotten biger Conoco Phillips & Exxon Mobile are some of the newer mergers, and the Teabaggers think states need to regulate what the EPA &OSHA does ,huh Standard Oil was the bigest polutor in Arkansas, with a family member for governor,a ignorant lot who wants go back to the coruption
@kamphwagon1, mega corporation/mergers is a world wide phenomeon in lock step with Reagan/Thatcher/etc deregulation, making it harder to combat with national trust busting. Capitalism works best when there are lots of small businesses competing, but is flawed into failing when monopolies like Standard Oil and AT&T form.
Did you watch ZFWTCBjtZa0 ? A 1200%, $50 to $600 drug price increase. No competitor would invest a billion dollars knowing if the price returned to $50 they'd go bankrupt.
@ZangaroZen Couldn't find it here on YT, but I'l take your word for it, typical drug company fraud ,abuse and price gougeing here in America useing tax payers money to fund their huge profits /R&D trough medicare /medicade and other gov subsidized run insurance plans, when you can step across the border and buy the name brand not a generic for penneys on the dollar, it's horse shit if they wern't making money in Mexico and Canada you wouldn't be able to buy it there , it would never be shiped !
@kamphwagon1, you can't find ZFWTCBjtZa0 ? It's there, try youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=ZFWTCBjtZa0
How could anyone defend a drug company raising it's price from $50 one month to $600 the next? Only a corporate imperialist would.
You know why the identical name brand drugs are available else where (Canada/Mexica/Europe) at a fraction of the cost? Drug companies will take any profit they can get. In America they can gouge, else where universal health negociates a reasonable price.
@ZangaroZen Ah bingo LOL that guy that made the vedio is a Neo Con corporate bot , who forgot about pattens these drug companys have on their products or the fact that a newer safe more efective drug can't be produced, as with heart meds , theres some new ones but nitroglyceren and asprin are the two most effective in dilating blood vessels and thining the blood period, and probably the safest. His arguement for profit = R&D is at fault Bayer one of the largest is in Euerope,where UHC is normal.
@ZangaroZen cont. I' agree that UHC keeps the prices reasonable in Canada & Euerope but there also cheaper in third world countrys as well ,as for Mexico I don't know of any UHC down there that would be much better than quackery unless your one of the haves, rich people in Mexico. Personaly I would count them in the third world. These comanys re coop their R&D here gougeing instead of spreading it around the world in a fair manner, it's a proven fact !
@kamphwagon1, mentioned UHC versus America as a first world nations apples to apples comparison. The third world can only afford a fraction of American prices, and once a drug is developed it typically costs pennies per pill to mass produce, and so a far smaller profit from the third word is infinitely better than nothing.
As for the "Neo Con corporate bot" he convenienlty fails to mention America represents a third of the developed world in line with it's drug market share.
@ZangaroZen This is true no one ever mentions how cheap these drugs are to make after R&D,these companys don't loose squat selling them for pennys to the third world , it's a game to gouge Americans useing their PR to justify the prices and corporate bots like the one in the video belive and preach their justification for highway robbery, just like big oil does at the pumps, were geting it everytime we turn around from the big corporations .
@kamphwagon1, American health care and drug industries are very administrative intensive rather than R&D intensive. 30% of the cost of both industries is administration. Executive bonuses, sales reps, claim reps, marketing, PR etc. Under UHC such costs account for at worst 4%, a huge difference and efficiency savings.
As for the "Neo Con corporate bot" he's a corporate imperialist in the pay of CEI (Competitive Enterprise Institute) which sucks on the tits of large corporate funders.
@ZangaroZen It figures he was in somebodys pocket as zelous as he was , the rest is mostly usual executive greed thats become the norm nowdays instead of rational compensation , theres nothing wrong with a incentive for a job well done but these bonuses have become outrageous , like the unreal BS that went on at AIG after the bail out, these ass holes expect everyone else to tighten their belts except them, like the other A holes our politicans . Boeinger got his pork fat cut to GE .LOL
@kamphwagon1, idiot Bush's $700B TARP ballouts was a gift with no strings attached, and he shocked that the banks paid themselves huge bonuses and didn't loan out the money. No other country was so stupid to give a cent wihout conditions, like equity, usage and repayment obligations.
UnitedHealth CEO McGuire took $124.8M in bonuses in 2005, and got a $1.1B golden parachute in 2006. The present CEO Hemsley took $724M from 2006 to 2009.
Watch PzwktR4ezQg and G4TsaHmtgfA and vKI9be55N00 etc
@kamphwagon1, (con't) your AutoZone example is monopolistic capitalism, incur losses to eliminate competition then gouge consumers. Conservative/libertarians who feel laissez faire is infallible don't understand business practicalities. Take this idiot's video ZFWTCBjtZa0, where he defends an "exponential" 1200% drug price increase from $50 to $600 in one month, claiming competition will invest "$800M" and more to "quickly" produce an alternative. BS! A return to $50 would mean a $800M loss.
@ZangaroZen cont And these Teabaggers are to butt ignorant to realize water & air polution arent confined by state lines, how ingnorant can one get ?? Yep we studied the monopoly "busting " in highschool civic class I doubt they teach anything like that anymore. LOL ATT is another that comes to mind theyv'e bought up nearly everything profitable in the "B'' band celluar market, Tmobile is the only real competion left in this band .
@ZangaroZen Also I would like to point out that the two major axis powers of WW2 are doing what they couldn't do with force with economics building factories here, getting their slice of the American pie ,beating us on our on soil that adds insult to injury for American workers, but then agian there investing in America and it's workers providing some of the better jobs that the greedy CEOs here shiped to Mexico & China and Moo Bachman wants a un American investigation LOL begin with corp greed
@ZangaroZen You'd better hope she dosen't become our president, unless you by some chance have a WW3 death wish LOL she is as about as diplomatic as black mamba lying in the sand ,her ego is a ticking time bomb, look at all her insulting outbursts on Fox noise, even calling GOP leaders " those dirty bastards " , if you think Hitler was a war mongering psyco ,you an't seen nothing yet !.....
@ZangaroZen cont. It's a all smoke & mirriors kill put togeather in the editing room in my estimation,and her firearms handeling is rather novice along with lack of caution of wild animals no doubt about that, shes a insult to actual hunters and marksmen,opps marksperson LOL in my experience unless youv'e made a head or neck shot caution is advised ! I usualy poke them with the barrel or stick, nerves can still fire and cause kicks! Iv'e even had delayed flight response from spine/ lung hits.
It takes seconds to stage things properly. Palin should have walked up cautiously rifle at the ready to shoot the carribou in the back of the head if necessary, and put a foot *ON* the animal and apply pressure, to CONFIRM it's dead. It seems her comment "I feel better now" is a reference to apprehension over a first kill.
In rural Nevada it's next to impossible to find a sign without dozens of bullet divots. In Canada I've yet to see a sign with one divot.
I like the way you use the English language. I can actually understand what you are saying. Yes, Sarah was fumbling alright. Sad, really. The video you referenced was of Christian the Lion. It made my eyes puddle up ... again! Carry on ZZ,live long and posper!
@walgar2, a more complete clip, of Christian introducing his foster parents to his cubs and pride is posted here cvCjyWp3rEk.
Richardson, Rendall and Berg continue to inspire, while Sarah and family finished burping on their trophy meat within a week. Had Palin been in Africa, she'd have fumbled around like a complete amateur, eventually shot Christian, got a picture taken, had others cut off the legs some back and rib meat, left the rest to rot, and declared a "great sense of accomplishment"
Palin's fraudlent persona would be laughable if not for her Presidential aspirations. Obviously Sarah has rarely if EVER done any of the things shown in "Sarah's Alaska". Your clip clearly shows Sarah has negligable hunting, gun, and knife skills dispite flattering editing. To her fumbling around to kill a helpless animal at close range for a bit of trophy meat is a "great sense of accomplishment". Discusting.
@Walgar2, it doesn't take much to look semi-competent, yet the producers of "Sarah's Alaska" didn't coach Palin on basic firearm handling. A few seconds of watching the clip, and it's obvious Sarah doesn't have the most basic of clues:
1. Your finger should only enter the trigger guard when you intend to shoot. See 2:38
2. Holding the trigger guard against your body is not a rifle carry. See 2:52
3. Be stable and move the rifle with the target (why Sarah's first shot missed). See 1:50-2:26
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen When I was 15, I went to Air Cadets and learned a bit about cleaning rifle barrels and sighting a rifle using a tripod. Summer of 1994 saw me in Alaska on a roadtrip and the locals would use road signs as targets for sighting purposes, outside of city limits of course. Something Sarah forgot was to sight her firearm. I give her credit for not being easily embarrassed. You have a good eye, ZZ!
walgar2 1 year ago
@walgar2, for "Sarah's Alaska" someone else obviously bore sighted, and calibrated each scope at a range. After all Sarah can't do a proper rifle carry ie 2:52
Palin makes complete beginner mistakes:
1. A novice's finger will always naturally enter the trigger guard rather than remain extended ie 2:38
2. Shoot when the target moves into the scope and/or stop tracking with the target (ie anticipate the recoil) just before the shot, making misses more likely. See f8jx6_yuFgw at 0:25 (con't)
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen #2 the anticipation of recoil is what most of us shooters & hunters call flinching ,some even close their eyes in this peocess , Iv'e seen people on the range spewing hits all over the place due to this flinch esp some of these macho types who go out and buy these mags, even a .30 cal magnam can be bruseing from the bench or prone position in sporter weight without recoil reduceing measures,once you get up into the .338s and above it gets brutial !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@walgar2, (con't)
3. after Palin misses, the excuse is to switch rifles (at clip end she blames the scope calibration, rather than admit point 2), and is told REPEATEDLY to wait for the carribou to stop (ie she can't hit a moving target)
4. Palin doesn't have the good sense to approach the downed carribou cautiously rifle at the ready, and has to be warned TWICE. There's a splice (obviously others verified the kill) then Sarah is staged feet away from the carribou and declares it dead (con't)
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen #3 she actually empties the first rifle twice,it looks like a Winchester while the guy next to her chambers a round in what looks to be a Remington setting the saftey,looking like he's wanting to shoot, personaly I don't think she made the kill theres no evidence just the scope thing & a side veiw of Palin shooting, I figure the old man on her left made that shot,besides she missed all the broadside shots and supposedly makes the difficult head on shot ? give me a break !......LOL
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, saw Sarah empty the first rifle ONCE specifically at 1:51, then shoot with the second rifle ONCE at 2:26. Very suspiciously how the kill was sliced, as Sarah is never seen actually making the kill. Also there is an obvious splice at 2:57 when obviously the men check that the carribou is dead before Sarah is staged and declares it's dead from 4' away.
What the hell kind of rifle carry is Sarah using at 2:53? Never seen such a BS carry before.
Sarah can't hit a moving target.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen She actually emptied the first twice in one of the longer vedios theres several versions here on YT,the old guy to her left even works the bolt for her and reloads it once, if you look close it apears there was two diffrent animals ,driffent size antlers, even some of the broadside shots should have made atleast a gut shot and the animals head on shot is harder to make than the misses she made, even with it standing, not moveing .
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, never seen "Sarah's Alaska" a part from a few clips, the one in this video being the longest.
I'll take your word, and not surprised, that Sarah missed twice with the first rifle and couldn't work the bolt in a longer version of the video. You're probably right about antler size varying in the few very quick splices.
My 10 year old brother and a few minutes coaching could handle a rifle better than Sarah does. Sadly the redneck morons Sarah caters to think it's all real.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen LOl yeah I see you found the veido I was talking about,you probably also noticed in a lot of those broadside shots the animal or animals were standing , not moveing ,easy shots to make for a seasoned hunter/marksperson a dead give away to someone else making the head on kill shot ! To be honest about it I doubt if Mrs Palin could a bull in the ass with a bass fidle if it were standing in frount of her !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, (con't)
Check out this video zL7B7L7nZlE; yeah that's right Sarah missed SIX yes SIX times with the first rifle and her dad had to work the bolt FOUR yes FOUR times for her. If it wasn't for the world's most fucktarded carribou(s) (there may have been more than one, spliced together as one kill) that didn't have the good sense to run away from any of the SIX noisy misses and Sarah's out in the open group, there'd be no kill.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Well i'l gaurentee you she'd starve to death with her hunting abilitys where I deer hunt,white tails don't hang around verry often after the first shot only the verry small young ones like the rather small caribou shot here, I doubt that animal would feild dress 200lbs,lots of hair on carribou, it makes them look larger than they realy are. Once a hunter becomes comfortable and confident with his firearm one shot humane kills become the rule on a hunt !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, thanks to you, my previous opinion of Sarah's complete ameteurish incompetency and outright lying, have been proven far to generous.
Check this video out g5LjaxJohLU from 0:28-0:58. That's right, Sarah posing with a rifle, means she's an extraordinarily amazing Amnnie Oakley shot to the moron media and those they lead around by the nose.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Well theres nothing wrong with being decent in matters of critisisim, but obvious fraud snake oil PR grifter sales pitches require a more drastic approach ! Have you seen the Palin/ Goslin clips ? now thats a hoot LOL it's where two egotistical moron bitch monsters take a camping trip togeather in Alaska LOL it's like two sore tailed tom cats at a Mexican stand off , the tension between the two is rather obvious ,with a cat fight looking for a place to happen !..... LOL
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, LOL thanks for pointing me to the Palin/Gosselin colaborations here:
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ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Yeah how did you like the blonde vs brunnet Mexican stand off where these two ego moron bitch monsters met LOL there both like the woman that every neigborhood seems to have medeling in everones buisness with their holly than thou attitude, that every kid on the block loves to hate, and every one else just wishes they'd just move off the face of the earth LOL
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, apparently screwing up McCain's bid for the presidency wasn't enough, as now Palin want's to ensure Obama stays in for a second term.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen LOL yeah shes a grifter probably has some ideas on how to make money off of a presidential bid, like her Delaware pick O'Donnell did on her numerous senate bids,or probably wants to get some more subject matter for another book seeing how sales on the current two are in a slump ! She dosen't give a shit about the GOP or Tea Party it's all about Sarah , her over inflated ego and the money. Could be she needs some new clothes, those she got in 08 are over 2years old and out of style !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, heard she made at least $10M on the speaking circuit last year. I mean how stupid are her supporters? Bottom line is she's a 2 years early resigned Governor who doesn't have a clue about the most basic general knowledge, guns, hunting and the great outdoors included. If Palin ever gets elected at anything again, your and my guesses summed together won't be nearly good enough to predict all the national, economical, and environmental damage she's capable of.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Yeah that is't no shit , this womans ideas on nearly everything are complete drivel ,not to mention her over inflated self worth and rather childesh ideas of her qualfications, going so far as to argue with Websters over what a proper word is over a hick mispronounceation ,when you start adding up all this ignorant BS shes done in the last few years it ceases to be funny and rather disturbing that she has any followers at all !..
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, it's pathetically sad that the very very best that the GOP/Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party, and Libertarians have to offer is Sarah Palin.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen It's worse than sad ,it borders on the edge of criminal ignorance as I see it ! most seem to overlook her family involvement in the Alaskan Independence party a militant sucesionest bunch with Joe Vogel as their leader who has mysterously disapeared after makeing a trip to the UN , suposedly to enlist Iranan help in their cause. Sarah supported them a governor, passed legislation to prevet the outlawing of militas in Alaska,lots of states have outlawed these paramilitary exersizes !.
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen cont. All this came out in 08 after she made the Obama / Aires remark during the campagin, the difference being Bill had payed his debt to society and learned to effect political change peacefully, unlike Vogel and members of the AIP whom have since faded fom the spot light except for the Palin members, then you have all those questionable state scandels, trouper gate , problems with the Canadan pipe line contractor, her quitting, Alaskans are not happy campers with Sarah ! LOL......
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, Jesus H Christ, the AIP help fund Palin's Wasilla major bid and later Governor bid and had "open door" access to her while she held both offices and tried to get AIP members into government with her. Todd was a card carrying AIP member for a decade, and Sarah spoke at many AIP conventions. This woman is a locked and loaded loose canon. salonDOTcom/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Yep the more you dig the worse it gets with Palin, odd that the twit Bachman would have any thing to do with with Palin after her remarks about un- Americans in congress wanting to launch a McCarthyism witch hunt of the late 40s and in the same bed with Palin , it makes one wonder about these Teabaggers. Theres also testimony from AIP members that Sarah was indeed a member here on YT , just maybe not on paper . I'm afraid theres more skeletons in her closet than the Aushwitz ovens.
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, can see the Tea Party's broad concerns, question is where the fuck were they 30 years ago when Reagan deregulated and encouraged industry to flee America with millions of jobs, while the national debt ballooned courtesy of trickle down economics. Then there's Bush Jr. false war nonsense, 6000KIA, 40000WIA and more massive debts courtesy of tax cuts for the rich. Still no Teabaggers. W. hands off an economy about to collapse and the Teabaggers finally show up screaming laissez faire
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen LOL thats a no brainer they were all voteing for the Neo Cons starting with Reagan, since Jr is such a big embarresment and a lot of them don't like the idea of a black in the white house they had to come up with somthing besides belonging to the GOP, the problem is their canidates aren't even as smart as Bush Jr LOL Palin cost the GOP control of the senate with her Tebagger picks, endorseing idiots like Sharon Angle & Christeen "human brains on mice'' O'Donnell !....
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Hey I read the article at the web site you posted , and I would say it's pretty accurate but didn't address the other issues she had as governor just the AIP. The only thing I can see as comon bonding thread among Teabaggers is RW christian extremeism, some have ligit issues in aeras as natl debt, excess gov spending and the wars but have complete whacko ideas in other areas, I noticed you don't like NAFTA or the Chinese out sorceing , dito here, the Tea/Republicans are mum on this !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, yes the article sited only deals with Palin's AIP ties.
Can see Tea Partyer concerns over national debt, balanced budget, and minimal ie efficient government. Question is where the hell were the Tea Partyers when Reagan and the Bushs went on wild spending sprees while encouraging industry to move offshore (being "mum on this" is silent consent). All for freer trade but not at the benefit of mostly the rich and at the expense of the domestic economy.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Union busting and NAFTA was the roadmap Reagen left to the Neo Cons to benefit their rich cronies the fortuene 500 CEOs and major stock holders,destroy the middle class and turn America into a banana republic, these Neo Cons and Teabaggers alike often acuse Obama of class warfare, somthing thev'e been practiceing for 20 years,with shiping jobs out of America , with no monatary penilties on goods brought back in to be sold to those who lost the job making what their selling !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, America is not the only country where anti-middle class lobbists have had their way for the last 30 years, meaning the genies worldwide are going to be extremely hard to return to the bottle. Can start by restricting election financing to renumeration per vote earned up to expenses incurred. Next change the definition of corporation from a pseudo person to a non-person liable entity. Then restrict lobbying to public forums. In short return all political power to the people.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen That would most likely return politics where it belongs with the people ! NAFTA is a national economic disaster on our industrial base, and is as simple as a 3rd grade seience exersize of mixing water of 3 diffrent temps,except it's economies IE #1 USA hot, Canada #2 warm , Mexico #3 cold and depending on how shity it realy is, will reduce our economic status while raiseing that of the top classes with profit enjoyed from cheap labor and lax regulations.
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, after NAFTA 1000s of companies relocated American factories just over the Mexican border. Trading American jobs for Mexican labor and lax laws, and eroding the American middle class for a tiny rich minority's benefit.
Add a voter only non-tax credit restriction on political contributions, and corporations would be cut out completely from backing/controlling politicians, leaving them only public forum lobbying. Next require public disclosure of any donations over 1% of a campaign
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Huh, no doubt about that, I live in a city that gave tax concessions,spent 100 of thousands on unility infistructure, to accomidate a new manufactureing plant only to have all the real manufacturing jobs moved to Mexico leaveing it only as a distribution center, 100s lost jobs and those that keept them faced income losses , cuts in pay with reduced hrs,while upper management gave theirselves raises, typical corp CEO greed,as if these fuckers wern't makeing 6 figures or more beforhand
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, heard it all before. WalMart selling Chinese junk is infamous for demanding years of waived taxes and millions in cash incentives to open a store, which then bankrupts local competition while replacing descent paying jobs with minimum wage jobs with minimal benefits while welfare/taxpayers pick up the rest of the tab. Watch 3GINui9LdIQ
Capitalism works great in distinct markets provided there are no huge players and/or monopolies.
America's middle class is shrinking fast.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Yeah wallmart is one of the bigest detrements to local small buisness,along with autozone & O'Rilleys who move in cut prices and carry huge inventorys untill the competion is eliminated,then they don't keep shit,and have to order everthing and depending on what it is pay shiping, hell you can do that online, I don't deal with these people much except for maybe a oil filter or somthing small, I even order motor oil online from a distributor who pays the shipping , piss on em !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, if idiot conservatives get their way and fully implement trickle down economics, the rich will eventually pay no tax, the theory being that they'll reinvest tax cuts in America rather than flee their money out of the country as has been done for 3 decades. National debt incurred from for the rich tax breaks will grow rapidly, while middle/lower classes taxes will continually raise as they, not the rich, will be on the hook to pay off the debts incurred by for the rich tax breaks.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen No doubt about that one on Reagans trickle down economics, a complete failure thats had a better than a 20year run thats never amounted to squat except to make the rich richer. The only way to make these supper rich to invest in America is to Tax the hell out of them force them to invest it or lose it otherwise they' just hoard it somewhere, Shit how many jobs are these luxury items they buy produce,seeing how they only account for 2% of the pop ,what the 2% buys dosen't amount squat
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, check out my other post regarding "monopolistic capitalism".
You got that right, Reagan's trickle down economics over 3 decades "amounted to squat except to make the rich richer".
Agreed, "tax the hell out of [the rich or have] them reinvest".
Conservative/Libertarians scream the rich will "go on vacation" or "reduce job creation" rather then make more taxable money. BS! That's where real capitalism comes in. Go on vacation and others else will muscle in on your business.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Actually the monopolistic beast is growing instead of shrinking, it's about time for some good ole trust busting like in the 30s where Standard Oil was busted up, owned by the Rockerfellers, big oil has gotten biger Conoco Phillips & Exxon Mobile are some of the newer mergers, and the Teabaggers think states need to regulate what the EPA &OSHA does ,huh Standard Oil was the bigest polutor in Arkansas, with a family member for governor,a ignorant lot who wants go back to the coruption
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, mega corporation/mergers is a world wide phenomeon in lock step with Reagan/Thatcher/etc deregulation, making it harder to combat with national trust busting. Capitalism works best when there are lots of small businesses competing, but is flawed into failing when monopolies like Standard Oil and AT&T form.
Did you watch ZFWTCBjtZa0 ? A 1200%, $50 to $600 drug price increase. No competitor would invest a billion dollars knowing if the price returned to $50 they'd go bankrupt.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Couldn't find it here on YT, but I'l take your word for it, typical drug company fraud ,abuse and price gougeing here in America useing tax payers money to fund their huge profits /R&D trough medicare /medicade and other gov subsidized run insurance plans, when you can step across the border and buy the name brand not a generic for penneys on the dollar, it's horse shit if they wern't making money in Mexico and Canada you wouldn't be able to buy it there , it would never be shiped !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, you can't find ZFWTCBjtZa0 ? It's there, try youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=ZFWTCBjtZa0
How could anyone defend a drug company raising it's price from $50 one month to $600 the next? Only a corporate imperialist would.
You know why the identical name brand drugs are available else where (Canada/Mexica/Europe) at a fraction of the cost? Drug companies will take any profit they can get. In America they can gouge, else where universal health negociates a reasonable price.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Ah bingo LOL that guy that made the vedio is a Neo Con corporate bot , who forgot about pattens these drug companys have on their products or the fact that a newer safe more efective drug can't be produced, as with heart meds , theres some new ones but nitroglyceren and asprin are the two most effective in dilating blood vessels and thining the blood period, and probably the safest. His arguement for profit = R&D is at fault Bayer one of the largest is in Euerope,where UHC is normal.
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen cont. I' agree that UHC keeps the prices reasonable in Canada & Euerope but there also cheaper in third world countrys as well ,as for Mexico I don't know of any UHC down there that would be much better than quackery unless your one of the haves, rich people in Mexico. Personaly I would count them in the third world. These comanys re coop their R&D here gougeing instead of spreading it around the world in a fair manner, it's a proven fact !
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, mentioned UHC versus America as a first world nations apples to apples comparison. The third world can only afford a fraction of American prices, and once a drug is developed it typically costs pennies per pill to mass produce, and so a far smaller profit from the third word is infinitely better than nothing.
As for the "Neo Con corporate bot" he convenienlty fails to mention America represents a third of the developed world in line with it's drug market share.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen This is true no one ever mentions how cheap these drugs are to make after R&D,these companys don't loose squat selling them for pennys to the third world , it's a game to gouge Americans useing their PR to justify the prices and corporate bots like the one in the video belive and preach their justification for highway robbery, just like big oil does at the pumps, were geting it everytime we turn around from the big corporations .
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, American health care and drug industries are very administrative intensive rather than R&D intensive. 30% of the cost of both industries is administration. Executive bonuses, sales reps, claim reps, marketing, PR etc. Under UHC such costs account for at worst 4%, a huge difference and efficiency savings.
As for the "Neo Con corporate bot" he's a corporate imperialist in the pay of CEI (Competitive Enterprise Institute) which sucks on the tits of large corporate funders.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen It figures he was in somebodys pocket as zelous as he was , the rest is mostly usual executive greed thats become the norm nowdays instead of rational compensation , theres nothing wrong with a incentive for a job well done but these bonuses have become outrageous , like the unreal BS that went on at AIG after the bail out, these ass holes expect everyone else to tighten their belts except them, like the other A holes our politicans . Boeinger got his pork fat cut to GE .LOL
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, idiot Bush's $700B TARP ballouts was a gift with no strings attached, and he shocked that the banks paid themselves huge bonuses and didn't loan out the money. No other country was so stupid to give a cent wihout conditions, like equity, usage and repayment obligations.
UnitedHealth CEO McGuire took $124.8M in bonuses in 2005, and got a $1.1B golden parachute in 2006. The present CEO Hemsley took $724M from 2006 to 2009.
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ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@kamphwagon1, (con't) your AutoZone example is monopolistic capitalism, incur losses to eliminate competition then gouge consumers. Conservative/libertarians who feel laissez faire is infallible don't understand business practicalities. Take this idiot's video ZFWTCBjtZa0, where he defends an "exponential" 1200% drug price increase from $50 to $600 in one month, claiming competition will invest "$800M" and more to "quickly" produce an alternative. BS! A return to $50 would mean a $800M loss.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen cont And these Teabaggers are to butt ignorant to realize water & air polution arent confined by state lines, how ingnorant can one get ?? Yep we studied the monopoly "busting " in highschool civic class I doubt they teach anything like that anymore. LOL ATT is another that comes to mind theyv'e bought up nearly everything profitable in the "B'' band celluar market, Tmobile is the only real competion left in this band .
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Also I would like to point out that the two major axis powers of WW2 are doing what they couldn't do with force with economics building factories here, getting their slice of the American pie ,beating us on our on soil that adds insult to injury for American workers, but then agian there investing in America and it's workers providing some of the better jobs that the greedy CEOs here shiped to Mexico & China and Moo Bachman wants a un American investigation LOL begin with corp greed
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen You'd better hope she dosen't become our president, unless you by some chance have a WW3 death wish LOL she is as about as diplomatic as black mamba lying in the sand ,her ego is a ticking time bomb, look at all her insulting outbursts on Fox noise, even calling GOP leaders " those dirty bastards " , if you think Hitler was a war mongering psyco ,you an't seen nothing yet !.....
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen cont. It's a all smoke & mirriors kill put togeather in the editing room in my estimation,and her firearms handeling is rather novice along with lack of caution of wild animals no doubt about that, shes a insult to actual hunters and marksmen,opps marksperson LOL in my experience unless youv'e made a head or neck shot caution is advised ! I usualy poke them with the barrel or stick, nerves can still fire and cause kicks! Iv'e even had delayed flight response from spine/ lung hits.
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
@Walgar2, (con't) what total BS.
It takes seconds to stage things properly. Palin should have walked up cautiously rifle at the ready to shoot the carribou in the back of the head if necessary, and put a foot *ON* the animal and apply pressure, to CONFIRM it's dead. It seems her comment "I feel better now" is a reference to apprehension over a first kill.
In rural Nevada it's next to impossible to find a sign without dozens of bullet divots. In Canada I've yet to see a sign with one divot.
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
I like the way you use the English language. I can actually understand what you are saying. Yes, Sarah was fumbling alright. Sad, really. The video you referenced was of Christian the Lion. It made my eyes puddle up ... again! Carry on ZZ,live long and posper!
walgar2 1 year ago
@walgar2, a more complete clip, of Christian introducing his foster parents to his cubs and pride is posted here cvCjyWp3rEk.
Richardson, Rendall and Berg continue to inspire, while Sarah and family finished burping on their trophy meat within a week. Had Palin been in Africa, she'd have fumbled around like a complete amateur, eventually shot Christian, got a picture taken, had others cut off the legs some back and rib meat, left the rest to rot, and declared a "great sense of accomplishment"
ZangaroZen 1 year ago
@ZangaroZen Thank you the clip I.D. that reveals more of the backstory to this tale. This story really pulls at me.
Sincerely .... Walter Garbotz, Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
walgar2 1 year ago
@Walgar2, excellent comparison.
Palin's fraudlent persona would be laughable if not for her Presidential aspirations. Obviously Sarah has rarely if EVER done any of the things shown in "Sarah's Alaska". Your clip clearly shows Sarah has negligable hunting, gun, and knife skills dispite flattering editing. To her fumbling around to kill a helpless animal at close range for a bit of trophy meat is a "great sense of accomplishment". Discusting.
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ZangaroZen 1 year ago