i did this workout in 11 minutes with kip ups. shoulders were pretty much torn out of the socket. i have since deleted them from my routines because of its dangers and have abandoned cross fit from my routine because of the losses in physical abilities i was experiencing. if you want to do kip ups, more power to you, but be careful because they could potentially be dangerous.
What is the most efficient way between 2 points? A straight line.
People commonly lean back on the pull up, why? Because their elbows are weak for the weight they are using. When you lean back it takes the weight off the elbow and trasfer it to the Rhomboid. How many people have their Rhomboids glued to their Lat? A ton.
Why would you perpetuate a bad motor skill that most people have?
Kipping pull ups actually helped me get better at performing strict pull ups, without the need to lean back.
Efficieny is defined as the ability to accomplish a job with minimum expenditure of time and effort. That being said, I beg to differ about the "straight line" point. It can likewise be said that kipping makes pull ups more efficient, due to the momentum being generated, allowing for more pull ups in less time. More work/less time = efficiency doesnt it?Your thoughts?
That means that the Kipping Pull-Up probably didn't help the straight one at all, you don't become better at straight lines by curving it, that creates drag and slows you down.
The momentum is where? Not in the Back or the Elbows it's in the Hip Flexors. The Rec-Fem is the primary muscle group that pulls the hips forward because of overusage. Ofcourse you can pull harder, you are using THAT muscle group mainly. Straight lines in this case put the weight on the elbows, a much more needed area
than strengthening a muscle in your legs that is used over 90% of the time you walk/run etc. What you might not know is Crossfit was created by people who were using this as a means to jump and hop over things, NOW THAT is different. But mainstream? This is an Ortho's wet dream because a ton of people are getting hurt doing it. You can do it, but people should know the reason why not to.
Hm... so you're saying that the kipping pull up is used primarily a means to improve one's ability to run and jump over things? Or at least SHOULD be? As opposed to, say, performing them to improve the actually ability to do pull ups.
@ChetCampbell72 I agree, there is a lot of explosive movements done in an extraordinarily fatigued state, it's a safety issue. All crossfit is, is glorified circuit training, which has been around for decades. People pay $150 a month to do 15 minute workouts at a crossfit gym when they could've done the same workout at home for much cheaper.
@biggamejames79 some guys figured out how to make money and in the process a lot people a getting very fit and healthy, don't hate on people paying for CrossFit just because you didn't think of it.
Because its called kipping. This looks to me like more of a conditioning workout, as opposed to raw strength. The Kipping allows for more work to be done, raising your heart rate quickly
I think what he's trying to say is that kipping is method for increasing your power output for pull ups. in a workout like this which heavily stresses metabolic conditioning, the goal is more oriented toward power endurance rather than strength. since power is one's rate of force production, being able to do MORE pull ups due to kipping increases your power output. i like to alternate a lot between doing strict pull ups and kipping pull ups depending on my workout objective.
Obviously, increasing weight WILL bring your heart rate up, but still, using heavy weights is primarily a stimulus for maximal strength, NOT metabolic conditioning, which, by the looks of it, is one of the objectives for this workout.
this is good but its not rli a burpee hes rushing it too much :/ its sprawling...
StainsOfSociety 2 years ago
i did this workout in 11 minutes with kip ups. shoulders were pretty much torn out of the socket. i have since deleted them from my routines because of its dangers and have abandoned cross fit from my routine because of the losses in physical abilities i was experiencing. if you want to do kip ups, more power to you, but be careful because they could potentially be dangerous.
rockad1054 2 years ago
Kipping might also tear the AC joint.
What is the most efficient way between 2 points? A straight line.
People commonly lean back on the pull up, why? Because their elbows are weak for the weight they are using. When you lean back it takes the weight off the elbow and trasfer it to the Rhomboid. How many people have their Rhomboids glued to their Lat? A ton.
Why would you perpetuate a bad motor skill that most people have?
ChetCampbell72 2 years ago
Kipping pull ups actually helped me get better at performing strict pull ups, without the need to lean back.
Efficieny is defined as the ability to accomplish a job with minimum expenditure of time and effort. That being said, I beg to differ about the "straight line" point. It can likewise be said that kipping makes pull ups more efficient, due to the momentum being generated, allowing for more pull ups in less time. More work/less time = efficiency doesnt it?Your thoughts?
StAndAl0neCompl3x 2 years ago
That means that the Kipping Pull-Up probably didn't help the straight one at all, you don't become better at straight lines by curving it, that creates drag and slows you down.
The momentum is where? Not in the Back or the Elbows it's in the Hip Flexors. The Rec-Fem is the primary muscle group that pulls the hips forward because of overusage. Ofcourse you can pull harder, you are using THAT muscle group mainly. Straight lines in this case put the weight on the elbows, a much more needed area
ChetCampbell72 2 years ago
than strengthening a muscle in your legs that is used over 90% of the time you walk/run etc. What you might not know is Crossfit was created by people who were using this as a means to jump and hop over things, NOW THAT is different. But mainstream? This is an Ortho's wet dream because a ton of people are getting hurt doing it. You can do it, but people should know the reason why not to.
ChetCampbell72 2 years ago
Hm... so you're saying that the kipping pull up is used primarily a means to improve one's ability to run and jump over things? Or at least SHOULD be? As opposed to, say, performing them to improve the actually ability to do pull ups.
StAndAl0neCompl3x 2 years ago
@ChetCampbell72 I agree, there is a lot of explosive movements done in an extraordinarily fatigued state, it's a safety issue. All crossfit is, is glorified circuit training, which has been around for decades. People pay $150 a month to do 15 minute workouts at a crossfit gym when they could've done the same workout at home for much cheaper.
biggamejames79 1 year ago
@biggamejames79 some guys figured out how to make money and in the process a lot people a getting very fit and healthy, don't hate on people paying for CrossFit just because you didn't think of it.
jurbina76 9 months ago
Why all the swinging on the pull-up?
ChetCampbell72 3 years ago
Because its called kipping. This looks to me like more of a conditioning workout, as opposed to raw strength. The Kipping allows for more work to be done, raising your heart rate quickly
psalm143 2 years ago
Raising your heart rate can be done in a variety of different/safer way's. You want to raise your heart rate? Increase the weight.
ChetCampbell72 2 years ago
I think what he's trying to say is that kipping is method for increasing your power output for pull ups. in a workout like this which heavily stresses metabolic conditioning, the goal is more oriented toward power endurance rather than strength. since power is one's rate of force production, being able to do MORE pull ups due to kipping increases your power output. i like to alternate a lot between doing strict pull ups and kipping pull ups depending on my workout objective.
StAndAl0neCompl3x 2 years ago
Obviously, increasing weight WILL bring your heart rate up, but still, using heavy weights is primarily a stimulus for maximal strength, NOT metabolic conditioning, which, by the looks of it, is one of the objectives for this workout.
StAndAl0neCompl3x 2 years ago