@77elvistheking I am sorry to break it to you, but days earlier before that interview she told Tuomas that she would be doing only one more album album and leave (all written in the public letter). Besides, that wasn't my point for the ironic part. The point was that she was saying this while the rest had already decided to kick her out.
@77elvistheking Doesn't have to do with my opinion, only facts... If you are asking my opinion, I don't think Tarja is a bad person neither the rest of NW. I actually like both. I know for some it sounds hard to believe, but I am actually one of the few people mature enough to suppport music and not care about why some musicians just didn't get along. It's just another part of life. Long story short, both are great, they just didn't get along on the way, end of story. ;)
@ValEomen Yes I agree but I don't understand why they had to do something like this to their friend. It was Tarja that helped them be what they are now, that's a fact, her voice made the huge difference. Even if she said that she wanted to leave, let her stay till the next album as she probably wanted to leave after the 10th anniversary and then let her go. What was the purpose to give her a letter and then go public saying many lies too?
@ValEomen And actually, most times I don't care about things like these in bands, but it was strange with Nightwish. They had a perfect singer, they seem to get along well in this documentary and then they fire her that way because for her reasons she couldn't stay with Nightwish anymore? That's just lame. With that letter it seems they were jealous of her for some reason and they wanted to hurt her career by saying that she doesn't care about the fans {a damn LIE}.
@ValEomen Anyway, I'm happy that she left Nightwish because she made a wonderfull solo career and she comes to Greece every 2 years, taking photos with the fans and signing everything they give her. I'll love a Nightwish reunion, I can't hide this ;)
But just to mention, I don't like the new Nightwish but if someone likes them it's fine. I never ever bitch about Anette and everyone is OK :)
@77elvistheking I don't really know what is a lie or not concerning their personal choices but as for letting her go before the album, if they didn't feel like doing it, they did the right thing. Nobody should force anyone in anything. I like both old and new NW and I like Tarja's solo career as well, so it doesn't really matter to me as long as both deliever good music for us to hear! :)
@ValEomen Agree! EGOs and stupid personal differences always lead to crap like this in bands though. Take Ritchie Blackmore and Ian Gillan from Deep Purple! They hated each other something which lead to Blackmore leaving the band..... But, he formed Rainbow which is one of the best bands Evar!
@77elvistheking Indeed, but lets not forget Steve Morse! DP couldn't find a better replacement! I believe that bands should just split when things like that come up, so that friendships wouldn't be ruined. That's what Evergrey did and there are two great bands now from the original members, one still being Evergrey ofc and all of them are still friends.
@MerelMystery In case your question was meant to be ironic, I agree with you, in case you really don´t know: 02:36. Imo you don´t say such things about a woman if you feel the slightest respect for her. So if they get lack of arguments they become disgusting, poor...
I also find it totally childish and ridiculous how Jukka behaves during the TV-interview, standing with back to Tarja, yes we got it: You don´t want to play with her, little pissed off boy!
@Enidan1111 I really didnt know, I guess I missed it. I understand that they made that kind of jokes, I mean everyone can be mean sometimes and at that time they really didnt like Tarja. But they shouldnt have put it on the dvd.
@MerelMystery Of course everyone can be mean sometimes, they also talk like this among each other and laugh about it. That´s just kind of a "I´m the coolest, hardest one around here" - guys thing. But this time I consider it to be different, it has kinda deeper meaning and knowing they would kick her out in a few days, it has an even more bitter taste, at least to me. Couldn´t they just have left her at least, like they excluded her half of the time, anyway?!
There's very little interaction between Tarja and the guys and I find it odd how Marcello seems to put Tarja in the corner and block all interaction from the other members.
so i think men of the band were bad with tarja also , they don't understand a girl has not the same problem in concert with them but marcelo was the really bad in this story not tarja !!
she didn't leave she got fired, and for a good reason. Her and her husband didn't give a shit about nightwish towards the end, she was too bothered about starting her solo career, actually i believe her exact words were ''i don't need nightwish''.
and besides the foreskin joke was fucking funny, what! do you expect the band to always say nice things about her and treat her like some queen or something?
i know she got fired, but she had wanted to leave before that. and i know that she was not blameless in this, i know that she and Marcello could have handled things better, and that she was probably selfish, i'm just saying that for a women, that is one of the most offensive things that they could have said about her. plus, Jukka (i think it was Jukka) said it in Finnish so Marcello could not understand.
@PingouinBleu1 She changed when she married Marcelo. This joke was funny, because this time was hard for band and little joke was right in time, you can clearly see that band is separate 2 different part(Marcelo& Tarja and Rest member of the band.) If you want to know more about band and relationship with Tarja read Nightwish biography book.
@antonsdefrancua I read it already, thx. But I disagree, in addition they said it even if Marcelo was there, just near them. It's more disrespectful. More and more. It's definitely not a funny joke, it's a disgusting joke.. Do you think she changed because of that letter? Were you there to notice it? That's just a question. Of course, a joke was good at this time, to relax, but not this one. But that's your opinion (oh Goddess how many times did I say it? lol), and this is mine.
@antonsdefrancua So now I find this fuckin'joke disrespectful and disgusting. You find it funny. Well, there are different opinions all around the world :)
@XEvanescenceXLove i seriously fail to see how anyone could NOT find that offensive. you just don't say those kinds of things to a woman. its very disrespectful and degrading. but i really don't want to get into a lame youtube fight about it. i find it offensive, you obviously don't and i am pretty sure that i will not be able to convince you otherwise.
@whutnot900 I wasn't trying to give you the impression that I didn't find it offensive. I just don't know what the insult means. I wasn't trying to come across as rude or argumenative.
@whutnot900 Okay, I just looked up the definition of "foreskin" and now I know why that was so offensive. I can't believe they would say something like that, especially in front of her husband! As much as I love the guys, that seriously pisses me off.
@xXArjaXx well, since they fired her two weeks later, i seriously doubt that they were kidding. it may have been a joke, but they meant it as an insult.
You can see here why NW couldn't cooperate more with Tarja and vice versa.
mikewill9511 1 month ago
Okay, how do you turn the English subtitles on for this DVD?
tinmanluver35 2 months ago
emppu es el mas
guapo para mi gusto
y es agradable. yo opino que haya sido
mejor que no aya ido marce!!
nightwish588 4 months ago
@nightwish588 pffffff quien no ama a Emppu? es todo un encanto *-* xoxo
IVIWAY99 2 months ago
It wasn't even Jukka who said that at 2:34, it was Emppu :O how do I know, Emppu's voice is lighter than Jukka's
MostlyghOstly661 4 months ago
@MostlyghOstly661
No, it was Jukka. Emppu's voice is a bit squeakier, plus if you look at him you can see Jukka say it.
tinmanluver35 4 months ago
@tinmanluver35 Uhh check again it was Emppu he's the "funny" one
MostlyghOstly661 4 months ago
5:07 Anyone sees the irony?
ValEomen 5 months ago
@ValEomen jajajaja you're rigth maestro
TheDampi123 5 months ago
@ValEomen I see the truth! That Tarja wasn't the bitch that they wanted her to be!
77elvistheking 1 week ago
@77elvistheking I am sorry to break it to you, but days earlier before that interview she told Tuomas that she would be doing only one more album album and leave (all written in the public letter). Besides, that wasn't my point for the ironic part. The point was that she was saying this while the rest had already decided to kick her out.
ValEomen 1 week ago
@ValEomen Tarja is anything but the things they said in the letter. If you want to believe what you told me, fine! Your opinion!
77elvistheking 1 week ago
@77elvistheking Doesn't have to do with my opinion, only facts... If you are asking my opinion, I don't think Tarja is a bad person neither the rest of NW. I actually like both. I know for some it sounds hard to believe, but I am actually one of the few people mature enough to suppport music and not care about why some musicians just didn't get along. It's just another part of life. Long story short, both are great, they just didn't get along on the way, end of story. ;)
ValEomen 1 week ago
@ValEomen Yes I agree but I don't understand why they had to do something like this to their friend. It was Tarja that helped them be what they are now, that's a fact, her voice made the huge difference. Even if she said that she wanted to leave, let her stay till the next album as she probably wanted to leave after the 10th anniversary and then let her go. What was the purpose to give her a letter and then go public saying many lies too?
77elvistheking 1 week ago
@ValEomen And actually, most times I don't care about things like these in bands, but it was strange with Nightwish. They had a perfect singer, they seem to get along well in this documentary and then they fire her that way because for her reasons she couldn't stay with Nightwish anymore? That's just lame. With that letter it seems they were jealous of her for some reason and they wanted to hurt her career by saying that she doesn't care about the fans {a damn LIE}.
77elvistheking 1 week ago
@ValEomen Anyway, I'm happy that she left Nightwish because she made a wonderfull solo career and she comes to Greece every 2 years, taking photos with the fans and signing everything they give her. I'll love a Nightwish reunion, I can't hide this ;)
But just to mention, I don't like the new Nightwish but if someone likes them it's fine. I never ever bitch about Anette and everyone is OK :)
77elvistheking 1 week ago
@77elvistheking I don't really know what is a lie or not concerning their personal choices but as for letting her go before the album, if they didn't feel like doing it, they did the right thing. Nobody should force anyone in anything. I like both old and new NW and I like Tarja's solo career as well, so it doesn't really matter to me as long as both deliever good music for us to hear! :)
ValEomen 1 week ago
@ValEomen Agree! EGOs and stupid personal differences always lead to crap like this in bands though. Take Ritchie Blackmore and Ian Gillan from Deep Purple! They hated each other something which lead to Blackmore leaving the band..... But, he formed Rainbow which is one of the best bands Evar!
77elvistheking 1 week ago
@77elvistheking Indeed, but lets not forget Steve Morse! DP couldn't find a better replacement! I believe that bands should just split when things like that come up, so that friendships wouldn't be ruined. That's what Evergrey did and there are two great bands now from the original members, one still being Evergrey ofc and all of them are still friends.
ValEomen 1 week ago
@77elvistheking Forgot to mention that since she had decided to leave as well, even after one more album, the irony in her words works both ways...
ValEomen 1 week ago
metallica and pantera yeah
quaikero 9 months ago
what joke are you all talking about?
MerelMystery 9 months ago
@MerelMystery In case your question was meant to be ironic, I agree with you, in case you really don´t know: 02:36. Imo you don´t say such things about a woman if you feel the slightest respect for her. So if they get lack of arguments they become disgusting, poor...
I also find it totally childish and ridiculous how Jukka behaves during the TV-interview, standing with back to Tarja, yes we got it: You don´t want to play with her, little pissed off boy!
Seems like Emppu the only cool one of them
Enidan1111 6 months ago
@Enidan1111 I really didnt know, I guess I missed it. I understand that they made that kind of jokes, I mean everyone can be mean sometimes and at that time they really didnt like Tarja. But they shouldnt have put it on the dvd.
MerelMystery 6 months ago
@MerelMystery Of course everyone can be mean sometimes, they also talk like this among each other and laugh about it. That´s just kind of a "I´m the coolest, hardest one around here" - guys thing. But this time I consider it to be different, it has kinda deeper meaning and knowing they would kick her out in a few days, it has an even more bitter taste, at least to me. Couldn´t they just have left her at least, like they excluded her half of the time, anyway?!
Enidan1111 6 months ago 2
8:33 what's the name of the song???????
cakabre97 9 months ago
Lol Nightwish blasting Blackened by Metallica. :)
HolyDeth 10 months ago
Nightwish for old FARTS?! YEAH WHO EVER SAID THAT THE FANS IN THE STREET OWNED YOU!
Ally1391 11 months ago
@MegaLiopleurodon
MegaLiopIeurodon 1 year ago
There's very little interaction between Tarja and the guys and I find it odd how Marcello seems to put Tarja in the corner and block all interaction from the other members.
ComaLies225 1 year ago
7:40, blackened :P love nightwish too
0oIronMaideno0 1 year ago
Marcelo gots Tarja's bag
MrsLesleyOlivia 1 year ago
@whutnot900 2:37 yeah, Jukka definitely bad attitude against Tarja or any woman...
papikito 1 year ago
marcelo is ever with them , he shoudn't be there he is not a member of band , i can understand men of band can't support him
Triskellatlante 1 year ago
@Triskellatlante Yeah!! that was exactly what i was thinking!!!
what the hell is doing there???? and what was tarja doing take him everywhere?
MelWolff 1 year ago
@MelWolff yes man
so i think men of the band were bad with tarja also , they don't understand a girl has not the same problem in concert with them but marcelo was the really bad in this story not tarja !!
sorry for my english lol
Triskellatlante 1 year ago
@Triskellatlante haha...don't worry...
But i'm a woman lol..
Ahmm...english is not my first language either so i have problems with it too..haha :)
MelWolff 1 year ago
i am gonna do my solo career but that doesn't mean i am gonna end singing with nightwish, poor tarja, she didn't have a clue :C
elviraluu 1 year ago 2
that is not funny all this kids follow you all the time fuck!!!! that sucks as hell!!
musikmood 1 year ago
it's pissing me off how tarjas bring her bitch husband everywhere she goes in this, if i was in the band id be like tits or GTFO
Babeman12 1 year ago 11
what song ?? 8:25
obsylatin 2 years ago
Is that tarjas husband in the green at 1:40?
angelofdarkness49 2 years ago
her husband seems alittle up tight
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Savestheday41 2 years ago
Haha cute <3
Tarja gives everyone a kiss =)
Can't belive that she's a diva or something else...
MissyFan80 2 years ago
oh God...
the girl with a photo camera from the last century at 0:53.. .___. what a shame. haha
oceansoul02 2 years ago
bad comments on tarja: got millions thumbsdown,
good comments: thumbs up.
i think the fans are a bit emotional when it comes to anything mentioned about tarja.
not only in this video, but EVERYWHERE.
it's annoying, seriously.
if u disagree bout other people's negative remarks, write something that express ur opinions.
scarletdoherty 2 years ago 3
is that tarja's personal assistance, which follows her every step she take xd..
sinthoras91 2 years ago
OMG this is funny :))) at 5:39 Emppu say Let's go and drink! (so cute) but..poor Jukka she need verry hard to go to the bathroom :)))
EmppuRock 2 years ago
she or he?? XD
liricobarroco 2 years ago
I'm sorry but not all people are speak English ...ok?
EmppuRock 2 years ago
"but does not mean that i'm gonna end singing with Nightwish..." :(( I miss her
mishkyn910 2 years ago 5
Pantera- Mouth for War
Aloysyc 2 years ago
thanks
resigned877 2 years ago
what's the music being played at the end?
resigned877 2 years ago
around 4:45, poor Jukka, nowhere to go xD
PharaHerine 2 years ago
wtf is this?
xxTaylorJuliexx 2 years ago
omg! at 2:34, they were so rude to her! that is incredibly offensive, and with her husband standing right there! no wonder she wanted to leave.
whutnot900 2 years ago 11
she didn't leave she got fired, and for a good reason. Her and her husband didn't give a shit about nightwish towards the end, she was too bothered about starting her solo career, actually i believe her exact words were ''i don't need nightwish''.
and besides the foreskin joke was fucking funny, what! do you expect the band to always say nice things about her and treat her like some queen or something?
666JSchaffer666 2 years ago 24
i know she got fired, but she had wanted to leave before that. and i know that she was not blameless in this, i know that she and Marcello could have handled things better, and that she was probably selfish, i'm just saying that for a women, that is one of the most offensive things that they could have said about her. plus, Jukka (i think it was Jukka) said it in Finnish so Marcello could not understand.
whutnot900 2 years ago 24
the idea of the solo album was opera not metal
Eclipsedwish 2 years ago
@whutnot900 I thought Tarja's husband was Finnish as well.
gof22 1 year ago
@gof22 no, he's from Argentina.
whutnot900 1 year ago
@666JSchaffer666 Totally agree with you, Tarja changed and that joke was fucking funny :)
Keep rocking.
antonsdefrancua 1 year ago
@antonsdefrancua When did she change? Before or after firing?
Oh my goddess, how can you find this joke funny...that sucks, it was bad and stupid, and as whutnot900 said, disrespectful, very disrespectful.
I really wonder what did Tarja think about it when she saw that (IF she saw that).
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@PingouinBleu1 She changed when she married Marcelo. This joke was funny, because this time was hard for band and little joke was right in time, you can clearly see that band is separate 2 different part(Marcelo& Tarja and Rest member of the band.) If you want to know more about band and relationship with Tarja read Nightwish biography book.
antonsdefrancua 1 year ago
@antonsdefrancua I read it already, thx. But I disagree, in addition they said it even if Marcelo was there, just near them. It's more disrespectful. More and more. It's definitely not a funny joke, it's a disgusting joke.. Do you think she changed because of that letter? Were you there to notice it? That's just a question. Of course, a joke was good at this time, to relax, but not this one. But that's your opinion (oh Goddess how many times did I say it? lol), and this is mine.
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@antonsdefrancua So now I find this fuckin'joke disrespectful and disgusting. You find it funny. Well, there are different opinions all around the world :)
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@PingouinBleu1 Are you male or female?
antonsdefrancua 1 year ago
@antonsdefrancua Ahhahahaha Female :D, and Yes, You guessed, that's why I find this joke disgusting haha ;)
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@PingouinBleu1 Yes it was my thought. :) Sometimes I like stupid jokes, it was one of them.
antonsdefrancua 1 year ago
@antonsdefrancua Lol. And I guess you're male? lol
Oh, since you're here, do you have this dvd?
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@PingouinBleu1 Yes I'm male. Sorry I don't have. I can't find part 6 :(.
antonsdefrancua 1 year ago
@antonsdefrancua No, I have the part 6, but.... That's my problem, I DON'T fIND THE SUBTITLES!! Lol, don you know how to activate them?
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@PingouinBleu1 I don't know . Maybe write on youtube how to activate subtitles and there will be something.(or use grandmother google) :)
antonsdefrancua 1 year ago
@antonsdefrancua I diiiiid, but huuuuh :( I don't find. But thx, no matter :)
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@666JSchaffer666 Hello, first thx for posting.
But I have one question, how can I activate the english subtitles? I bought the dvd yesterday, and I don't find them lol.. Could you help me please?
Thanks :)
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@PingouinBleu1 B E I B E R #1 HE RULES!!!!!!!
MegaLiopIeurodon 1 year ago
@MegaLiopIeurodon Why the hell do you answer me!? -_o?
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@PingouinBleu1 Cuz I can!! You know damn well you love me!!
MegaLiopIeurodon 1 year ago
@MegaLiopIeurodon O.O *shit I can't make bigger O*..
PingouinBleu1 1 year ago
@PingouinBleu1 I can *0_O
MegaLiopIeurodon 1 year ago
@whutnot900 What did the insult mean at 2:34? How was that very offensive?
XEvanescenceXLove 1 year ago
@XEvanescenceXLove i seriously fail to see how anyone could NOT find that offensive. you just don't say those kinds of things to a woman. its very disrespectful and degrading. but i really don't want to get into a lame youtube fight about it. i find it offensive, you obviously don't and i am pretty sure that i will not be able to convince you otherwise.
whutnot900 1 year ago 2
@whutnot900 I wasn't trying to give you the impression that I didn't find it offensive. I just don't know what the insult means. I wasn't trying to come across as rude or argumenative.
XEvanescenceXLove 1 year ago
@whutnot900 Okay, I just looked up the definition of "foreskin" and now I know why that was so offensive. I can't believe they would say something like that, especially in front of her husband! As much as I love the guys, that seriously pisses me off.
XEvanescenceXLove 1 year ago 2
@XEvanescenceXLove oh, i'm sorry! i misread your comment! yeah, i guess you know now what was offensive. it really made me mad when they said that.
whutnot900 1 year ago
@whutnot900 Her husband was a dick and she started acting like a Diva, that's what happens..
astrolifter 1 year ago
@whutnot900
even her husband laughed at that joke
that fucker is what ruined Tarja anyway :P
vegitoxtreme 1 year ago
@vegitoxtreme since Marcelo does not speak Finnish, there is no way that he was laughing at the joke. he didn't understand it.
whutnot900 1 year ago 2
@whutnot900 It was Marco. He had nothing against Tarja or Marcelo, why would he hate her?
xXArjaXx 1 year ago
@xXArjaXx if you read the biography, it was Marco's idea to fire her.
whutnot900 1 year ago
@whutnot900 Why?o.O He was jealous and he wanted to be main singer?
I was sure that Tuomas hated Marcelo.....
xXArjaXx 1 year ago
@xXArjaXx i don't know. maybe. it seems like he and Tuomas and Ewo made the decision together and then told Jukka and Emppu about it.
whutnot900 1 year ago 2
@whutnot900 They just were kidding.
xXArjaXx 1 year ago
@xXArjaXx well, since they fired her two weeks later, i seriously doubt that they were kidding. it may have been a joke, but they meant it as an insult.
whutnot900 1 year ago 4
Is the guy in the green shirt Tarja's husband?
gastonreboredo90 2 years ago