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  • I am in no way in love with Ronnie. But I do stand by his side when it comes to ETF and Craig and Max. Craig and Max are liars and assholes, and if you think I'm wrong idc. I choose to believe what I believe and if ETF wasn't Ronnies band to begin with then maybe it'd be a bit different. Ronnie keep rockin. Craig fuck you.

  • i am not hating on craig but personally i like ronnie better then craig i just personally think ronnnie is aa better singer

  • I genuinely don't know how people can hate on someone they don't even know...Craig has reason's to dislike Ronnie and Ronnie has reason's to dislike Craig, why can't the fans just support them both? If the fans really cared about the music then you wouldn't be arguing about "who is better". No one is better, they are both great musicians now please simmer and stop arguing with each other and enjoy the music!

  • ALL of the comments are the same. o_e Did you people really just come here to rant about who's better? Everyone has their own opinion. Thats all there is too it! /).-

  • Personally i love them both i tell no lie -3

  • Personaly i love them both i tell no lie -3

  • Ronnie kept ETF original and punk.

    With Craig they're just general post hardcore now, but they're ok I guess musically

    But personally, Craig's an asshole that wouldn't sign this girls shirt JUST bc it had Ronnie on it. C mon, she didn't have money to get a newer ETF shirt bc she spent it on a ticket to your damn show.

    Anyway. Is it weird that i had to turn the volume off to watch this video, the beginning was already sending me to tears.

  • i choose Monte, he's a badass

  • Craig is just generally a twat...

  • @Fissa4: also yuh jst think dat cuzzz ur just a newby to these song lol F@%!$@%

  • Oh yeah Craig sings lyk SHITT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ronnie is awesome no questions asked and without him in ETF, ETF seem lyk a bunch of dushh bags....=0

  • I love how dumb bitches say that Craig talked shit bout Ronnie but they never back it up with fats or anything,I'd like someone to show me prove.

  • are ppl still on this team ronnie, team craig shit? is this fucking twilight? i didnt think so. both bands kick ass. period.

  • Dude who gives a shit anymore, I don't! I listen to both Escape the Fate AND Falling in Reverse for there music, I dint give a fuck who is in it I still enjoy it. Were not close to them so why doesn't everyone shut the fuck up about the Ronnie VS. Craig argument and listen to some good fucking music

  • Everyones saying Criag .. NO Ronnie!! ...... Well The way I look at it is..... ETF Has PLUMITED With Out Ronnie..... He gets outta jail.. Makes a Band.... And MAKES THE BEST DAMN MUSIC EVER !!!! So Duh Ronnie Wins :)

  • @tiredofliving155

    yes totally agree. Ronnie has that sort of awesomeness in his voice ^-^

    Go Ronnie! Love you!!

  • Man Fuck Craig Ronnie is way better

  • Because craig betrayed ronnie.

  • Ronnie....is so sexi...

  • Craig sucks. He sounds like he should be in one of those shitty radio rock bands like Buckcherry........oh wait, that's right, Escape the Fate became a shitty radio rock band! Look for them to tour with Nickelback or some shit. Haha

  • Everybody shut the FUCK up about Craig and Ronnie. Ronnie was the old ETF Craig is the new ETF. Shut the FUCK up and deal with it. Ronnie is out of ETF and in FIR. If u guys like Ronnie so much listen to FIR and leave ETF alone. MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS!!!

  • Your names lil wayne370 why are you doing an etf video??

  • gahhdamn brings back old memories...

  • craig ftw, fuck ronnie

  • Ronnie didn't make situations he only sung it max is the one who wrote it and Craig does a sick if not better cover at live shows and tours

  • Craig can't sing. Craig can't sing. Craig is a hypocritical asshole. Ronnie is 10x sexier (no homo). Craig has had 2 VERY disappointing albums since being in ETF. Ronnie made one album in FIR and they are doing much better than ETF. Okay, now we can can all agre Craig sucks dick.

  • @LtLman22 Honestly, Craig sings better than Ronnie.. ever heard them live? No offense to Ronnie, but he always sings the same... sexier, it's a matter of taste, i think Craig is way sexier (; And honestly, i LOVE the first ETF Album, with Ronnie, but the FIR sucks :/ There are maybe 3 or 4 good songs, but i love the ETF Albums with Craig (;...

    I like Ronnie, but I love Craig, and you should stop acting like a child, throw cuss words around and get over it (;

  • @LtLman22 The only reason why ronnie and his band would be doin better is because he was in jail obv, and his old fans miss him thats why, so thats why they had a lil' more success, but gaurenteed if ronnie was never in etf, they wouldn't be as big as they are now Js.

  • @banonrulez If Ronnie was never in ETF, ETF would have never existed. And if ETF never existed, then FIR would have never existed. Just saying.

  • @LtLman22 Loool, tbh if ronnie wasn't in etf ever that doesn't mean they couldn't exist js, there could of been other singers out there not just him, thanks for comin' out though. (Y) but we all know craig is the better man, Ronnie can't accept the fact etf didn't want him anymore.

  • @LtLman22 okay kid cuz failing in reverse is doing better than escape the fate. did failing in reverse get sign to a bigger record company? no so stfu. and craigs albums are better than ronnies faggot stuff

  • @theguyfromBVBARMY You say "kid" when I'm not even a kid, but say what you want. And if Craig did make better albums, why was This War is Ours named the most disappointing album of the year it came out, yet when FIR debut album came out, everyone loved it. Now I'm sure you're just a little scene fag judging by your name but Craig sounds like a fucking goat. Getting signed by a bigger record company has nothing to do with being better. if Craig wants to be a sell out fine by me

  • I love Ronnie, But I Prefer Craig

  • Craig sucks ass

  • Ronnie tweeted that his New Years resolution was to stop hating on craig and craig said he appreciated his positivity... small steps

  • @acholix123 good. Ronnie is best.

  • hi

  • Old fans like Ronnie new fans like Craig but true fans like both or don't care

  • @TheMadison011 Excatly!

  • @TheMadison011 I'm an old fan and I like Craig. Ronnie had a shitty ego and thinks he's better than he is.

  • @TheMadison011 ima new fan and i love Ronnie more than i do Craig

  • Team radke all the way

    I love you Ronnie.

  • Ronnie doesn't hate Craig, he hates the whole band for kicking him out.

  • 00:37 sec ronnie couldve tried out for avatar! LOL

  • because craig talks shit and ronnie goes to jail and like a little bit later, they replace him wit craig, he copies of of ronnie, why WOULDNT u hate him.

  • I think Craig sings better personally...But Ronnie all the way.  His songs are sooooo much better. FIR > ETF, but both are good bands.

  • ima sorry but they are both FUCKING AMAZING people and singers there both smexyy :') n id fuck both off thm i love ronnie and craig smexyest ppl evr n max grreeenn

  • dude fuck all of you they both kick ass ok ronnie started a band and my best friend is his bass player and he kicks ass with them etf is bad ass as fuck as long as the music lives who fucking care who is singing for what god damn band and to my friend mika tell ronnie i said wats up and tell bill hudson i still have his leather coat he left at my place!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I'm team Radke. Craig mabbit is a f***in' faggot

  • @TheBella1523 just like you! :D fuck off.

  • so people mostly like ronnie than craig?

  • okay im pissed because Craig just comes in and starts talkin shit abot ronnie when he use to just be a back up bitch i mean come on look at Ronnies perspective wouldnt that piss you off to i mean fuck some one just tears you out of a amazing book and places themself there i mean that would piss me off to i like both bands its just i still have to say i like Ronnie better and yes Craig is copying ronnie if he wasnt then why does he have the same haircut and ronnies little dot below his lip

  • even though i like both singers i kinda liked craig in blessthefall but still ILOVETHEMBOTH!!!

  • answer to video title: because craig mabbit is an ugly untalented cunt

  • some of you really dont know about music at all ae

  • thank you look at my comment on " ronnie radke sucks" they are both amazing

  • in the first pic. whats the guirtarists name??

  • @cecilopez6969

    It is Bryan ''Monte'' Money =D

  • why is ronnie getting greener and greener at the first picture?

  • dude call 911!!!! hes turning green lol jk wow that was stupid

  • There should be more of Ronnie's voice in this video than Craig's... Just saying what everyone else was thinking..

  • Craig doesn't copy ronnie ? Like jumping off of shit.. Craig did that in Blessthefall before Eswcape The Fate Was Made

    Again There Both Great Singers but I hate when people act like they know everything about someone they have never met

  • craig is just a bad copy from ronnie

  • i think Ronnie was better but oh well why does it matter dont listen to etf if you dont like it and if you do then do it they both have bands just make a choice and quit bitching....awaiting dumbass responses in my inbox

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  • @XDinoStephX U Can like both, u dont have to choose a side!

  • @XDinoStephX Craig didn't start any of the shit you dumbass

    it was the rest of escape the fate who kicked ronnie out

    Craig talked shit because ronnie did first

    and yes I am a fan of both of them

    Not a faker either....I'm just not a dumbass like you

  • @TheDeadlySinsPS3 Ur being a faker right there deepshit...!!...Its Like saying 'i love god..but i love the devil too!'...And first of ronnie didnt start..since he was in fucking jail?!...Craig Goes out of hand ..cause of 'ronnie' fans...He should act like the fucking better person?!..and im a dumbass..really..Im sorry..But i cant see that since u dont even fucking dont even know me...And.. i know they kicked him out...but they pushed the limit by starting shit

  • @XDinoStephX dude grow the fuck up nobody needs to pick a side because real fans would put this shit behind them just like ronnie max and the rest of etf did yea craig was pissed off when he said shit about ronnie but its over and done its just the dumbasses like you that are keeping this war going news flash bro there isnt a winner in a war of music just hurt feelings and the feeling of revenge and hate put it in the past ronnie and craig are over so is so are the real fans your the poser here

  • To be honest , the band was way better with Ronnie instead of Craig. Like people are saying , " craig just makes songs of meaningless words" whereas ronnie had meanning in his lyrics , I mean listen to the song not good enough for truth in cliche it has meaning and so does the video then look at the song craig wrote ten miles wide its pointless and so is the video its just filled with no meaningfull words and sluts. I'm not trying to start a fight with anyone who thinks craig is better..

  • craig did not make them more brutal because their songs are kinda boring now the songs dont really have meaning to anything with ronnie you could hear a story going on and they were more emotional with craig they are just songs tbh

  • @sheasasuspicion Ronnie puts emotion in his songs? 10 songs are "Waaah Craig stole my band even though I was already thrown out months before" and one is "TAKE IT IN THE ASS AND SUCK MY DICK" He has no emotion NOR talent in FIR.

  • Ronnie! He's the reason the band got big in the first blace, i think escape the fate was way bigger then bless the fall was. and plus, after craig left BTF, they got A LOT better. oh and FIR is :D:D:D

  • color changes every second ... FIR RONNIE!

  • craig will never be able to replace ronnie, craig has completely changed E.T.F but the band is still good just not as good as it used to be falling in reverse is more like the old E.T.F which is amazing the new E.T.F is just plain now but they are still good

  • CRAIG MABBIT MAKES ESCAPE THE FATE LOOK SEXXXY ;)

  • @NanaAlexis1 if by 'sexxxy' you mean like a closet fag halfway thru a sex change, then yes, mabbit makes etf look 'sexxxy'

  • @crazybeachballface blah, well that's my opinion! so shhh.....

  • I am going to be honest and say this Falling in reverse and Escape the fate are both amazingly good at what they do and what they do is make music so people leave the "team Radke and team Mabbitt" for twilight. please and thank you

  • can someone tell me y ppl change color or am i the only one tht sees tht cuz if so someone slipped something into my drink and need to go to the hospital.....

  • Craig is good, in my opinion in 3-4 songs one of which isnt even ETF, and Blessthefall sucks ass. so yea Ronnie>Craig. Ronnie has a MUCH better sounding clean vocal but has good screams, if they formed an alliance, then it would be awesome...

  • What song is this?

  • lol in the first pic, monte looks retarded ^__^

  • fuck caig mabbit fuck escape the fate if you love ronnie listen to there new band

  • he hates him for the same reason everyone else does... cuz craig BLOWS!!!! totally RUINED the band

  • i think their both amazing

  • they're different. both great singers but in different ways. now stfu and listen to what YOU like.

  • ronnies just mad cuz he's not in one of the best bands ever i mean i didn't even know he had another band in till today bless the fall and etf are awesome bands and Craig made them both better

  • there both good but craig is better either way hes better live his screamo is better and he sings better i dont miis ronnie at all craig fits better into etf and ronnie sounds way better with falling in reverse

  • 0:19 holly fuck ronnies goin hulk!

  • Ronnie Radke Fans go listen to Falling in Reverse and leave Craig alone. Craig Mabbit fans, keep listening to Escape the Fate other ppl who like both Ronnie and Craig please keep doing what your doing. IDC who sings in the band as long as i can listen to the band cuz its not just the signer that makes a band its the entire band in it. so plz SHUT THE FUCK UP AND ENJOY THE GOD DAMN MUSIC

  • blah blah all comments 'dont hate Craig or 'they both are good' -.-

    Ronnie is da best!~

    ETF is dead without Ronnie :/

    [just listen how Ronnie sings and how Craig does]

    Pfft...all the way RONNIE! ♥

  • @oOEgluteOo calm ur shit dude just be happy theyre back making music again the MEMBERS are happy. So if you wanna hear more of Ronnie then get your ass off and go listen to falling in reverse. Simple as that. so quit your bitchin

  • @oOEgluteOo craig is great in his way. but its not etf without ronnie

  • I'd be pretty pissed to if someone took over the band I started and Craig did a lot of shut talking so its pretty obvious what the beef is between then I love both of them personal but I'll always love Ronnie more

  • god who cairs really any more just shut up with this stuff and listen to the music ther both good

  • I think its more like craig hates ronnie,He's always talking shit about ronnie :/

  • dude this is like the twlight fad lol team ronnie ftw

  • CRAIG is there to keep the band alive dont hate on him there wouldnt be anything if it wont for him or it would be a different guy you would be hating on

  • I've heard some of the things Craig said to Ronnie and i agree with you guys! They were REALLY nasty!! But we shouldn't hate on Craig, if he wasn't here then we wouldn't have ETF. And i, personally, really like Escape The Fate. I think we can agree we ALL like Escape The Fate, New AND old. So we should stick together, as EscapeTheFateians (?). And instead of fighting with each other, try get some more people to love ETF like we do!! :)

  • <3 RONNIE RADKE A&F <3

  • Craig mabbit is a backstabber to Radke. They were friends Then he completley backstabbed him by 1 taking his band and 2 turning his best friend against him.

  • You people have GOT to be kidding me. Are you seriously bashing ETF? I usually don't copy what others have said, but come on. Do you seriously have nothing better to do than hate on Craig? And this goes the same for Craig fans bashing Ronnie. Just listen to their respective bands. Ronnie was replaced because he was jailed and ETF couldn't even tour out-of-state. They got a new member. Member replacement happens often in bands. I'm not saying we should kiss and make up. Just take a chill pill.

  • Craig is a cocksucking fag. 'nuff said

  • look people.....Craig and Ronnie are both fuckin AMAZING singers. If you dont like one go fuck yourself and just dont listen to them. Craig and Ronnie are each their OWN PERSON and nobody copies anybody. theres no reason whatsofuckingever to be fighting over this.....if you like ETF then you like them no matter what...END OF FUCKING STORY so stop fighting over the same shit

  • @BVBfoREVer20 FUCKING THANK YOU. Damn, at least there's one person who isnt fucking retarded...

  • @BVBfoREVer20 lol there is pictures of Craig doing the same shit Ronnie did. obviously, thats called copying........and Black Veil Brides suck xD

  • @BVBfoREVer20 Exactly!!! I hate it so much!!People listen to this person and just shut up!!!

  • this whole video is of ronnie changing colors

  • GO team ronnie!@#

  • Ok my opinion on the whole FIR and ETF situation....hey they are in new bands and thriving, sure ETF was ronnies band first but it's craig's now and he really isn't that bad for the band, ROnnie is doing amazing in his band and I hope one day they do a tour together specially in Washington so i can see em both at the same time >:D

  • OMMFG!!!! Ronnie isnt in the band because he made the rest of the band feel like shit and make thier lifes miserable ,they said it themselves .I like Ronnies singing but Craig is fucking good too, stop hatn of ETF and go listen to Ronnies new band if you fucking love him so much.

  • Used to love ETF when Ronnie was there, now I dont like it anymore, this guy is basically a wannnabe Ronnie.. craig sucks and ruined ETF for those people who like ronnie's voice, not his.

  • i got nothing to say about that, but the other vesion of this song is way better. way way way better.

  • Mabbitt in french means my dick ! Craig Mabbitt is just a dick

  • for all those dumbass's that dont know they dnt hate each other anymore they talked to each other over twitter and it was RONNIE that apolized to craig for all the shit that ronnie said to there both good vocalist craig is btr live n ronnie is good lyrical wise so every1 SHUT THE FUCK UP an get over this dumb bullshit n theres a vid on here that shows there tweets between the two of them

  • fuck team edward FUCK Team Jacob ITS TEAM RADKE >:D (no homo)

  • cuz Craig is a huge fuckin fag douche, Ronnie is the king (of the music scene)

  • I use to like ETF when Ronnie was there like ALOT! but then this fag haves to come in and change everything I so dislike the band, I believe RONNIE IS WAY BETTER team radke-3 FIR is bad ass love it my fav band but ETF sucks ass now

  • Dudes...FIR's songs suck ass...ronnie is only good in studio but his live singing sucks badly. BTW ETF as of Craig's entrance is getting better and "This War Is Ours" was a great CD, and Craig also sings great live compared to ronnie. Ronnie is good in studio cuz of the effects, though i will give ronnie credit in his lyric writting, i liked Ronnie best till i started seeing live shows...dissappointment.

  • like both bands but craig is a total douchebag and and a pussy

  • whatever

    shit happens

    i like music

    ill listen to both

    lol

    fuck you

    im right

    team whoever the fuck i want.

  • Ronnie hates everyone but himself..

  • no.no.no.no.no.no.no

    Ronnie is way better. like way better.

  • i think craig is better in etf and ronnie is better in fir

  • *Craig faggot

  • Simple. Ronnie is way better than Craid Faggot

  • Why are you all making out Craig to be the bad guy! Look at all the videos on here of Ronnie mouthing off about Craig! Fuck You! For having no idea, what you talking about.!!! Move the hell on.

  • this was over 2 years ago...can you people get over it. >.< ronnie got over it! craig apologized! its cool! they are both amazing! they have their own styles! both are talented. craig is not a "fag". -_-

  • people stop with the Craig and Ronnie fighting... get over it or at least fight about something else.... dont you think that they are happy?

  • Fans suck!!

    Go Craig and Ronnie!!

    <3

  • CRAIG IS A FAG!!

  • You don't understand. Craig insulted him and talks shut all the time at concerts. Even saying things that arnt fucking true. Speaking for the whole band but really only himself. The band has nothing against him bit Craig and he treats Ronnie like he's worthless when he's amazing and deserves more than that. Craig should go fucking die. He's a fake and he's full oh shit!

  • This title made me face palm. -.- Are you fucking retarded? Ronnie gave craig $300 to support his kid leila, and then when he went to jail craig talked mad shit about him, so he stabbed him in the back. Craig had his own style and band, then THE MINUTE RONNIE GOES TO JAIL.. he joins and changes dramastically. Ronnie did make the band. It pisses me off when people are like "SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO THE MUSIC" cause its hard too when the lead singer is a HUGE PART OF THEBAND.

    Get your facts straight

  • @ThirstyForDesires im afraid you have no idea what your talking about sir

  • @xanaxzombies666 Oh really? Watch the interviews dumbass.

  • the reason why i hate craig is not coz he talked shit about ronnie or did all that stuff

    the reason is coz his voice can be girly as justin bieber

    and his face looks like as if it s decomposed of ugly things

    his face is flat and he has a big nose

    oh and his teeth sucks

  • hot topic didnt have team radke t'shirt

    so i made one hahah no joking but i wish but i wont

  • i love both of em there both great singers BUT ronnie is a better person he never said shit bout anyone and yea he did drugs but he toke reponsablity for it

  • I Honestly Think Ronnie Is A better Singer Than CopyCatCraig Will Ever Be. Craig Annoys Me With His Terrible Singing... This Is Just My Point Of View, But I Think ETF Is Using CopyCatCraig As A ''Ronnie Replacment'' Craig has Copied Ronnie's Look, Pictures, And All That. Ronnie Is A Far Better, Singer, And Person CopyCatCraig Ever Will Be.

    <3 Ronnie Radke <3

  • I love how Ronnie sings not good enough for the truth he sings it amazingly, When craig sings it, he justs fails epicly

  • whats with the "team craig", "team radke" i am pretty sure this is not twilight

  • Team harry potter ._.

  • craig was ronnies long time freind and then fucked him over. it was a fuck you in the face on ronnie shitty

  • 0:32 Ronnie looks kinda like a avatar:)

  • wait people actually like craig mabbit? hes horrible listen to the last two escape the fate albums they are garbage. theres not a single good song on those albums.

  • JESUS CHRIST how long ago did Ronnie leave ETF? CAN WE aLL JUST GET OVER IT?? they are both amazing singers. If you dont like ETF dont listen to them and listen to Falling in Reverse. Vise versa. No one is forcing you to listen to music you dont want to. Listen to the music you like adn dont bash other peoples. Anyone who hates on any band is a moron, if your ass isnt on stage you have no right to say anything to other bands. grow up guys. I personally love BOTH of them <3 :)

  • Wtf ppl??? Its only Ronnie's fault that he went to jail, not Craig's. Ofcourse etf move on and now Craig is in the band so stfu, Escape the fate is better with Craig , Ronnie's voice sucks.Whatever, if you really want to listen Ronnie's music then go and listen FIR, and leave ETF alone. A real fan listen to the band , not only to the lead singer.if you dont listen to etf just because ronnie is not the band anymore that means youre not an old etf fan, you're just just ronnies dick.

  • TEAM MABBIT! ronnie sucks!

  • craig is better anyway ppl have thier opinions jesus fuckin christ ppl

  • TEAM MABBITT FUCK THE WORLD!

  • @TheNumnuts3 Fuck off numnuts

  • @lilwayne370 im just saying this video was pointless other than u to feel imortant some how cuz this video blows etf sucked every sence ronnie left...... Falling in revese is were its at now. besides bless the fall is better now without craig

  • @TheNumnuts3 this video is almost 3 years old check the date, this was a repost by the way the original was posted a couple months after craig joined etf so fuck off

  • josh todd sing with craig. not is craig at all!

  • ETF isn't any good without Ronnie .

  • Ronnie doesnt hate craig..

    IF he would hate craig i couldt totally understand him

  • Woa. Ronnie Changes Colors. 0.o

  • Stop bitching about Craig being the lead singer and get over it. Stupid fucks. I don't see any of you having good talent.

  • Escape The Fate has sounded much better since Craig joined. But Ronnie was just made for Escape The Fate. I love both singers.

  • @msturgis1 dude i agree with u... everyone needs to calm the frick down yes craig said some shit about ronnie and u can hate him all u want hey haters will hate, but seriously dont tell the whole freakin world that u hate him tell it to ur friends or whatever cuz no one really cares... ronnie is an amazing singer and is freakin cute, but so is craig who is just as talented as he is... no offense TO ANYONE out there :)

  • im team Music. im on both sides, i love both bands equally. now shut up and enjoy the fucking music.

  • ah ahehehehe no dude your high,

  • am i high or are they changing colors

  • @danwrack their changing colours :)

  • @ilovemusic1ism DON"T TELL HIM THAT

    XD

  • @Kasspyr XD

  • craig sucks. Team Radke<3

  • @musiclover1288 haha short and smiple!