These "Mindless Sheep" have been conditioned into believing all that the watchtower society deems as "TRUTH." Blind obedience or you are shunned, which is far worse than an islamic honor killing. When you are disfeffowshipped, you are cast out from "jehova's protection" and his other mindless lambs. Your family turns their backs on you as if you are dead. My parents and some siblings are dead. I never went to their funerals, not because I was not welcome, but because I moved on.
coming out of a cult is always difficult this is how I came to realize it was a cult. I now will never believe in any man made religion again, I do believe in god and I do not have a problem going to any church and listen to their view of the bible but I have no desire to join a religion.
im so glad you scape!!! i guess now theres no religion with the high standars tha you lookin for??? hehehehe im so glad your back to SATAN with rest of US :D....lol
fersomling.........out of the frying pan and into the fire! The Bible CLEARLY indicates that Jesus and Jehovah are not the same! Remember when Jesus was baptized; he was in the water, the Holy spirit was in the air (in the shape of a dove) and God's voice was heard from heaven.....that one incident right there shows that the Father, Son and Holy spirit are three DISTINCT entities!
anzwertree, so you think you're going to only have life in this system.....do you really think that man has had a fair chance to learn the truth about god and to serve him? Well, a few have but the vast majority have not. So don't give up on yourself and think this life is all there is for you, the Bible indicates that there'll be a ressurection of both the righteouse and the unrighteous and it's during the millinium of Christ reign that man will be judged.
@52flipflop Look back at Star Wars when Han Solo shoots the bounty hunter Greedo at the Mos Eisley Cantina. If you compare versions, you'll see Solo actually shot first. This is clearly a parable for love a sacrifice. Does any of that sound enlightening? Probably not. Since I think theology is a bunch of bullshit, pointing out a few plot points and character sheets is about as convincing as reciting Lord of the Rings.
I quit the JWs in October, 1975 after the New World failed to arrive when predicted. I believe, along with 2 billion other Christians, that Jesus is God Almighty (John 1:1 KJV) and that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are One. (1 St. John 5:7)
the problem is everybody takes the bible literally, and nobody seems to take it symbolically. my friend once said to me jokingly,"i love tall tales like the bible."
then i realized that there was actually truth to what he said. nobody takes the story of the rabbit and the hare as a factual belief that they memorize word by word.
Many people say that it's very old fashion to believe in bible and god but that's not so.... Which is more epic: That humans have evolved and die and are erased from excistance. Or that God created 2 people who failed and then he made a promise of jesus coming on earth, before that Egypt started using hepreans as slaves and god sent them free with moses but then they failed and then jesus came and gave us ransom, and now we are living the final days and god will soon fill his purpose. Thats EPIC
@1Minute60Seconds I agree, that would be an interesting prospect. A greater purpose, cosmic justice, everlasting life. Indeed, that would be exciting news. Unfortunately, the inherent epic nature of a scenario has no veracity upon the truth value of a proposition. For example, what is more epic? Evolving under natural laws that govern the universe, or intentional creation by omnipotent transdimensional chocolate thunder bunnies? That sounds pretty epic. But it's still a fabrication
@eternityandforever We don't automatically copy ourselves. Humans don't reproduce asexually. And yes, copy machines are cool. I'm a big fan myself. Unfortunately, you are comparing an inorganic machine with a biological organism. These are two very different things. Copy machines cannot reproduce. Just like you said. Humans can have children. That's how evolution works. Ongoing changes and adaptation through random mutations and natural selection. Without reproduction, evolution cannot flourish.
@1Minute60Seconds People give BIRTH to humans.They are better than any copy machine I've seen. THINK about all the WORK that actually goes into making a copy machine...and it ONLY copies a page. We are millions of more times complicated than a copy machine, and we automatically copy ourselves! This is Supremely GENIOUS! ONLY a SUPER INTELLIGENT God could create us. LOOK around, and everything else is copying itself, too! Perpetual motion. Recycling, It's all here! We live in a pure miracle!
The Jehovah Witness Organization has ruined you: all you have been taught are lies!! The very hell you do not believe in, you will live an eternity in. Praying your eye's are opened & you see the Truth!!
@Blessed2BeeAlive The God of terroristic threats. That's the Christianity I'm familiar with. Believe in this nonsense or else you'll be sorry! If that's true your God is a dick -- unworthy of worship. How can it be moral to torture people in hell for a finite crime? God is going to send me to hell simply for not believing something? That's absurd. Why is belief in something without evidence a good thing? Do you think I deserve to be tortured forever?
@anzwertree I grew up with family playing cards for money,bingo nights at the Columbian Hall,bets, and other gambling.Small change$ bets. WE always said, good luck, prayed for luck- Catholics and believed in it. It really is a belief.The bible says NOT to put our trust in the 'god of good luck'=Isaiah 65:11.There it explains they are 'gods'. So instead of saying, 'lucky' I say 'happy'. I tell people I don't believe in 'luck'. I am so glad I KNOW that it's not true.I am RELIEVED of the pressure!
@eternityandforever I don't believe in luck either. It's just an expression. Sure, some people really do believe in luck. I think they are mistaken, but people are free to form their own conclusions. Some people believe in gods. I'm an atheist. Some people believe God is sitting up there adding up our scores on his laptop. While I do not intend to offend anybody of faith, I believe science has a much more compelling answer than religion. I'm going to die soon, and that makes me the lucky one.
@anzwertree Meetings are what the early Christians established. Before that the Jews went to the temple and heard the reading of the scrolls (not printing press then). The bible has alot to learn, and we have to constantly fight off Satan's attacks and influence from TV, videos, movies, magazines, neighbors, co-workers, school mates. I have seen alot of things, many bad things I don't even want to repeat, that it is SO MUCH better to spend my time studying the bible instead of doing bad things!!
@eternityandforever I am going to die, and this will most likely be my only life. But most people are never going to die because they are never going to live. We know this because the amount of potential possibilities of genetic combination for human life outnumber the sand grains of Sahara. Yes, we are going to die. But we are the lucky ones because we have experienced this beautiful place, if only for a short time.
deprogram yourself of any doctrine including the bible how ever hard it may be it doesn't serve you, look within and discover everything you've been waiting for all the answers are there, you have powers, wisdom and knowledge hidden within you empower yourself the only one judging you is yourself. There's a reason all these doctrines and religions exist and its to take your power away, the true Jesus would tell you this
@5Dshapeshifter116 This is an old video. My beliefs have changed drastically since it was produced. Now I am atheist by definition and agnostic by nature.
@anzwertree man im baptist dated a jw and man do they mess with your head i could understand why your an atheist . they make you question things and make you confused .. im sorry .God is good but he doesnt want you to suffer or torture you .
@1955JAFO hell= death. jeez! thats all! death. you die, youre dead. not a spirit walking the earth. dead. no point in people suffering cuz of imperfection. you die, you never knew you exsisted, so youll never matter, youre dead. dead ...dead dead dead. ha ha ha! duh! thats people taking things little-ral agian! 2nd grade. sheeesh!
aw baby needs his bottle. welcome to the new system lets make a meeting. oh you cant cuz u where chillin wit god of death and you said luck. ha ha ha! im proly not helping here... i like to say luck im leaving too! ah! im dead! ahhh!
you say you could never believe in a trinity or a hell but i think you could... if you wanted too.... i mean if you found some evidence that was so strong toward believing something that you never thought you'd believe then i guess you could believe it.... right?
@kiekie84 My beliefs have changed a good deal since this video was first posted. If a place like hell was demonstrated to exist, then yes, even if I did not like the idea, I would accept what the evidence suggested. However, assuming such a place did exist, it definitely would not encourage any love for the God who created it. If anything, it would only give more reason to oppose such a being. In my opinion, the doctrine of hell only complements a God of infinite malevolence and injustice.
@anzwertree well I'm not going to tell you there is a hell and I'm not going to tell you there isn't a hell but i will ask this what you think happens to those who don't believe in any God at all?
@kiekie84 What should happen to them? I don't believe in any gods. I don't believe in Zeus, Thor, Jehovah... I'm an atheist. In other words, I am without belief in any gods. I don't see how believing in something without justification is a good thing. I find this God morally reprehensible. A raping child molester converts upon his death and enters paradise. A good caring person that didn't believe in God is doomed to be tortured forever. That God -- if real -- is not worthy of worship
I swear I must be different from all the former JW's. Like you, I was born a JW, but never believed in God. My mother forced me to go to the Kingdom Hall until I was 16. Even at a young age I never believed in the bible. I never paid much attention to what they said. I know what I believe and left at a early age. JW are nice people, but they seem to be ignorant to anyone differ from them. I can't relate to what you say, but I've notice that JW's from around the world act differently.
I am what you call a jw and seeing this video has made me think twice about being one I've been one all my life and I'm 19 soon and I had the same problem with the luck word thank you for sharing this I will tell the elders I QUIT thx again
i've been Disfellowedship twice!!! LOL... the first time i was 18, the second time i was 20. I'm 25 now and will never go back. Check my channel out, my music is real, entertaining and really cool to smoke to, just started recording and shooting these videos about a month ago. TO ALL YOU JW FANATICS, I'M NOT AN APOSTATE!!!!!! I'M THE ANTICHRIST...... HAHAHA weirdos! wake up already! If you know it's not the truth, WHY ARE YOU STILL THERE???!!!
I agree with you that identity precede your purpose, but is that your purpose growth and evolution? don't you have any greater purpose in life? with the infinite punishment thing, do we not think that all through out our lifetime we commit finite crime and I know that he always forgives. Going to hell is our own choosing not God. What did adam and eve lost when they were cast out in the Garden of Eden?
@TheAdvising Even if we sinned every second, it wouldn't merit being roasted forever. That's nonsense. It is unjust to the highest degree. If there was a hell where some God tortured people, then I want nothing to do with such an evil God. I'd rather be tortured than stand by his side. He didn't have to create us at all. At one time I didn't exist. He'd be more merciful had he never bothered creating us, if the price was "Love me or be tortured." This God isn't much different from a mafia boss
@anzwertree God doesnt send people to hell or torture them in hell. hell like heaven is a choice. the thing is called free will. he want you to choice him. would you rather him to force people into submission?
@mjjcng8958 Torturing people for all eternity is pure nonsense. But even IF it was real, and God did design a place to torture people that don't follow him, then I'd much rather go to hell and burn forever than spend even 5 minutes in this God's sadistic paradise. Even the notion of eternal torture for a finite crime is preposterous. Hell cannot even be a punishment. You don't come out of hell a better person. The only reason it would exist is for vengeance. And so your God makes me sick
@mjjcng8958 like i said people send themselves to hell by choice God doesnt want anyone to go their if he did there would be no need for Jesus but your choice
@anzwertree God created hell for satan who rebelled against God. so satan who goes about tempting people to do wrong, wants to torture people and get them to choice hell. but you said you refer to remain ignorant? if God tortured us b/c we dont agree with him then why does he give us free will. free will lets us choice our life so if we choice to go to hell then we can't blame God for our choices
@mjjcng8958 If God created hell, please show me where he mentions it in Genesis. Where did he warn Adam and Eve that there was a parallel dimension of eternal torment? Where did you get this "Hell was originally created for Satan" because it sure isn't in the Bible. I say death is more just than torture. God didn't have to create us at all. If this was the price of creation, then he shouldn't have bothered. Your God -- if he exists like you claim --- is an asshole. He isn't worthy of worship
@anzwertree dude you can read right? if you can read then why do you need me to tell you? i mean you can buy a bible and read it. if you feel like God is unworthy then why do you need me to prove my point? you already said that you dont care so it would be pointless to show you something you dont beleive in. i am not a jw
@mjjcng8958 I know why you can't find it. It's because it's not in there. You're just pulling stuff out of your ass. There's no mention of hell in the old testament. Period. No mention of hell's creation. Your fictional hippy Jesus was the one that started that nonsense. Even though the Bible clearly says Jesus "only spoke in illustrations," (Matthew 13:34) yet, you ignore that and take it literally anyway. And that makes you an idiot. Who cares if you're not a JW. Neither am I. I'm an atheist
@anzwertree i cant find it be cause i didnt look. if you really want to know look it up yourself. oh and hell is mentioned in revelation man look it up. a parble was used by Jesus to get the attention of the people and to bring forth the gospel of salvatio. dont try to use scripture you dont believe in against me. an illustraiotn is a picture and he used them so that the people could understand it from their viewpoint
@mjjcng8958 It's not there, sweetheart. I'm sorry, but I apparently know your Bible better than you do. And what about Revelations? You mean the book with the 7 headed dragon? Yea, that's definitely real. Maybe you should learn to read, yourself. Revelations even tells you AT THE VERY BEGINNING: Revelations 1:1 explicitly says "presented in signs" -- you're really bad at this stuff. An illustration -- get a dictionary -- is also the act of clarifying or explaining; elucidation. A parable
@anzwertree The Old Testament speaks of hell as a real place. David wrote, "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God (Psalm 9:17). Daniel spoke of hell as a place where the wicked to shame and everlasting contempt (Daniel 12:2). A person cannot believe in the inspiration of the Old Testament without believing in the reality of hell.
how many times do you hear us say thats fortunate and yet none say you should not say that its wrong, i mean fortune is luck isnt ti, i think we all say lucky dont we when something is a fluke, so i think you worry too much, do you think jehovah will destroy you if you say luck in a concversation and not mean it as you mean luck, if you know what i mean lol
Bro. have you thought about purpose? I do agree what you said about why God will do such a thing, torturing his sons when they failed to do what he asked for.
I advise you to read the bible start with Genesis, you will find your self worth there.
On a certain family it is natural to have a reward/punishment set up right?
No religion was ever spoken in the bible, even "born again". I AM Born again but I don't let it mess up my head. Its not the title that makes me born again but my way of living.
@TheAdvising Purpose is based on identity. Many people have different purposes. My purpose is growth and evolution. I'm always trying to better myself. Of course punishment is necessary. It teaches us and helps improve character. But if you're talking about hell then I disagree. Hellfire is not punishment. You don't come out of hell a better person. If such a place exists, it's only for vengeance. It is infinitely unjust. Infinite torture for a finite crime is unbalanced. No eye for eye justice.
hmmmm you are reaaly angery eh? swearing and sweating under one of your ugly hats won't change truth!! and do you really think YOU beliving in Yahweh is for HIM? the fact that He is loving eniugh to allow you freedom to choose shows it does not effect him but you when satan is able to convince you he does not exist. all negative to the side I beg you to use your intelligence and search out truth! its been proven as a FACT jesus lived and died , choose life!!
@jahsent143 Fact? Personally I'd love to believe there's a God. It means I'd possibly be able to see all my dead relatives. Even my father whom I never met. It's just not realistic. There is no more evidence for Jehovah than there is evidence for Zeus and invisible flying dragons. I haven't heard a good argument for God yet. All I get are insulting people like you who assume they know the truth. I'm tired of BS. I want to know what I believe is true. I'm open minded, though. Show me the facts
See your doing the same thing now in your reply to me... of course I would not mean you are going to far by not choosing to revamp your whole vocab based on words being traced back to 'gods' but you felt the need to strech past my simple point saying luck is rooted to LUCIFER himself why would you NOT want to rethink your use of that word if you are claiming to be a member of the body of christ?? moderation and common sense is what I am speaking of but that seems beyond your reach.
@jahsent143 Huh? You can't be serious? You still believe this nonsense and I'm the one lacking common sense? I don't believe in God. I don't believe in satan. I don't believe in Zeus or Thor. It's all nonsense. If you have something meaningful to say then say it. Otherwise StFu and GTFO
You really went to far with not being able to speak just because you were informed of the root meaning behind a word. anyone with intelligence would welcome truth and knowledge. I was raised a witness too and also chose not to join as an adult but you went from being someone I could relate to a really really bad comedian.
@jahsent143 I went too far saying I would eventually be unable to speak if I eliminated every word that could be traced back to a God? There is a God of silence, a God of music, the days of the week were named after Gods. This isn't new information. But I'm not sure how mentioning this is "going too far". How am I not welcoming truth and knowledge by rejecting something absurd? The knowledge I rejected was them telling me what words I could and couldn't use based on demonstrably false reasoning
@Innerage37 I'm curious to know why u say jws have the highest rate of suicides and mental probs what's ur source??? Just curious cuz I know for a fact it's not true
Hi, I left about 10 years ago and never missed. I was raised in that philosophy because of my mom. Twist of life let me to click out the spell. Replace your belive in God and you will find out that you only got a piece of the vast Universe of philosphy and just know that is just a piece of the big pie. I love my life ever than ever and I making up for the lost time and loving my life and my relationship with God the Universe more than ever before. Peace Dude...welcome to the real life!
hey meetings are very encouraging to us. Look at all the spritual information we receive there. Its for our benifit to be there. We also get to know everyone well. I know there will be meetings in the new system. I look forward to them. They are encouraging, helping us to draw close to Jehovah.
@inspirediam Most definitely. Life is like a constant learning experience. I hate cliches, but the old "Whatever doesn't kill you," thing is very, very true. We gain strength from every trauma. Just when we find the answers, we realize we were asking the wrong questions all along. Reality is definitely counter intuitive.
Meetings are very important. Drawing close to God is what Jehovah's Witnesses want to do and how are you supposed to draw close to God if you don't attend the meetings? Meetings are vital for spritual food. You said you were attending college, which is fine, but young ones seeking higher education is not encouraged, not prohibited, just not encourage because attending college would keep them from attending the meetings. Meetings are great.
good point about the doctrines being a part of you. i feel the same way. there are many things that the witnesses have figured out about the bible which do set us free from being in morbid fear of god. i do believe that they have done the best job of any religion in explaining the bible.
Ive been having trouble with the bible itself lately. esp. the hebrew scriptures. i haven't been to a meeting since the memorial and i have yet to get one call from any elder.
This made me think about of the days of the week and months of the year and planets. Several of them are named after gods. Mars->March, Saturn->Saturday, Thor-> Thursday... etc I mean are we supposed to call it day one, day two, month one month two? Its like the act of trying to eliminate superstitions causes more superstition.
Trying to learn about Jehovah's Witnesses by watching these videos is like trying to learn about Jesus by discussing him with Judas Iscariot. Let these apostates have their day, they are receiving their glory in full.
What is it you are asking? I don't need to prove anything to you. I have my own name for the Lord, because the name Amightywind is using has been disgraced by them. And His name didn't come from Greek anyway, When Moses asked for a name, He said just tell them I Am. He wasn't giving Moses His name, because His name is incomprehensible to us.
d James 4:4; 1John 5:19; 2 Cor.4:4. Your exaggerated .Meeting can help you be strong when problems arrive see and go nearer to the Almighty God will see .The problem w/you now is you lost the warm love to the creator because of fear of man see! No it is your life that you are giving to Satan by removing yourself out of the protection that Almighty Jehovah God gave us in the Congregation. Better Pray hard Ok?
Dude! LOL! I laughed my ass off when you were talkin about resurection to keep goin to meetings! LMFAO! that was great, but so true! my girlfriend is getting into j.w. teachings deeper & deeper. Its gonna kill us! I know it. The teaching seems to pray on fear, and from what ive experienced NO HAPPINESS! J.w's have a really high rate of suicide and mental conditions like depression. They have the highest rate out of all the general public ive read.
If she becomes a JW it's as good as over. Unless you become a JW too. It's like a club. If you're not part of their club you cannot be part of them. What you say is very true.
Remember religion isn't the enemy, though. It's putting too much faith in "A religion" that can be bad. Religion by itself is merely the study of God. If you love your girl, study the scriptures and encourage her to do the same. But stress the importance of not leaning on our own understanding and to keep an open mind.
@Innerage37 The problem with the WTBTS is that they brainwash people. It works by people doing a 'study', eg reading wtbts literature, then answering questions in their own language but according to the precepts in the artical. This is brainwashing because the person is never allowed to question the teaching. See the videos of properganda techniques, for more info !
@ironjohnlad Indeed, if anyone understands that I do. It's fascinating to outsiders to hear about life in the org. But no one really understands it fully unless they have lived the lifestyle. PropagandaTechniques is an excellent vlogger on Youtube. He's a brilliant guy who takes his cause seriously. PropaMan, Timkilgore, Yahwehtohell, Dustin, godvids, and thundef00t are just some of my favorites here on Youtube
There are plenty of groups that do not believe in hell, immortal soul etc. Some are Seventh Day Adventists, then there is the Church of God Seventh Day, Christadelphians, and 300 splinter groups from the Worldwide Church of God.
I applaud you for having the courage to take your stand. Most people don't, they just keep letting other people run their lives, it's easier than thinking for themselves.
Thanks, bro. It's nice to get some positive comments every once and awhile. 90% are trolls. Even to this day, over a year since I disassociated, I still get hate mail. A few of them found my personal information. They posted my cell on craigslist. I get a lot of weird messages on a constant basis, and there's not really anything I can do about it. Part of the drawbacks to coming forward with any kind of message, I guess.
were you not strong enough to be treated badly by the way ward men be strong stand tall those who say bad things about trying to worship god are not worthy why would any one dishonor a faithful person
Staying in a cult, and molding yourself to appease the whims of its followers isn't exercising strength. But it does demonstrate ones capacity to think for them self. Life is simply too short and precious to spend it in the shadows of another's definition. Life is. Make it your own, or set your mind to autopilot and cost through it without a clue. If you can't choose a path, there are plenty of people ready to make that decision for you. Happy hunting.
What a horrible experience. My experience of Evangelical Christianity wasn't so extreme as your JW, but it was somewhere close on the scale of irrationality, and I'm also glad I was able to see through it eventually.
Yeah, and ever since I left, I've been a big target for trolls online. Some of them found my address. I get actual hate mail. It's crazy. Whoever they are, they probably aren't JW's.
My experience with religion definitely affected my personality. Going from a closed minded environment to reality was really rough. I'm just now starting to recover mentally. The real world works a lot different from what you're made to believe inside a cult. You have to completely reprogram the mind.
I joined the Baptist church to help me purge the catholic upbringing I had. Their dogma was harder to purge though, after only a couple years there it years to purge there legalism. I probably still have shreds left. Yours sounds more like peer pressure than the threat of hellfire, but when you're brought up with the garbage it's hard to throw it out.
It's really hard to explain. Not so much peer pressure as it is conditioning you to police your thoughts. That's the mark of a cult. They teach you to be afraid of your own natural inclinations. But peer pressure is certainly a part of it. We want to be accepted, and living in a religious environment is very persuasive -- hellfire or not.
That's what happen to me. Someone found the videos I was making defending "the truth."
I was told too many apostates lurked online. I was told to cease making videos about my faith. I even made a goodbye video. Dustin knew what was up, though. The reason I turned against it was because of their controlling attitude.
"The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." (The Watchtower, March 1, 1922)
The indisputable facts are that the Watchtower Society is a FRAUD!
The governing body are gonna ROT IN HELL FIRE (greek: pur asbestos) for all eternity. Matt 25v41 & Rev 14v10,11
Also the GREAT CROWD are in HEAVEN.
Rev 7 v9,15, Rev 19 v1 and the LAST DAYS started in 33CE Acts 2 v17.
Well explained. They really are robots, their every thought is manufactured by the WTS. Who else but a robot would be forbidden to use "independent thinking"? In any case, "worship Jehovah or die at Armageddon" is not an exercise in free will, or choice, it is extortion.
@filmbuff98 No problem. Jehovah God gave us the gift of choice. Otherwise we would be just robots who can't give glory to the Creator of heaven and earth and all the wonderful things in it. He deserves our praise from our heartfelt appreciation for all he has given us. He deserves our total devotion as our Creator. We all have the choice if we want to live and praise God forever or not.
Diana, why are you conversing with apostates on Youtube? Do your elders know what you're up to? Did you know you could be brought before a judicial committee for this?
@filmbuff98 You are right about the religions of today. They do not teach what the Bible says. There is no such thing as hellfire, And God, &Jesus are not a Trinity, along with the immortality of the soul. These teachings are found in false pagan religions. Jesus said people would teach commands of men as doctrine, That's why it is so important to study what it actually says. Everlasting life is worth it. Jesus said the mild tempered will inherit the earth Matt.5:5.
checkout, the ewatchman. He used to be a JW too. Even IF the org was the truth. It would probably end up like what the watchman says. They too will be wrong. 1914 never made sense to me either. The org has problems, and it has become like an idol. That's my problems with the org. -- ewatchmandotcom
@filmbuff98 I'm sorry you feel that way, but I've been associated with Jehovah's Witnesses 47 years and the only thing I've seen them do is direct me to what the Bible promises. I've read the Bible many times and see that their teachings are taken strictly from the Bible. That's all they spend their time doing, researching the Bible to make sure their lives and teachings are in line with what it says, and they do this free. But Jehovah made us free to choose what we will do with our Lives.
@filmbuff98 You really don't know Jehovah God very well. Do you really think that a God of love will allow those kind of people to live forever? Read Ps 37:10,11. Also please read 2Peter 3:7. If Jehovah allowed those kind of people into his righteous new order, we would have the very same condition we have now. In Rev. 21:3,4 it says we will not have any of these depressing conditions, such as sickness, death and sorrow. That's the new order that Jehovah promises. Matt.5:5.
@anzwertree Since when is knowledge a bad thing. People used to believe the earth was flat when if they just read their Bible they would have read that the earth is round. People didn't believe in germs at one time because they couldn't see them but now they have the microscope. Lack of knowledge is what is dangerous. That's why we offer a free home Bible Study so you can see for yourself what it says. We do all our work free. Of, course, it is still up to you what you do with it.
Why would you want to leave the only religion that teaches you that you can live forever in a paradise where there will no longer be any suffering, death, war, and crime? Where you can always be happy? and with people who truly love each other, and the only true God and Creator Jehovah. He just wants us to be happy. And He is only asking for exclusive devotion and to and obey His commands. How hard can that be? We offer free home Bible Studies. Do you want to live forever?
I'm not sure if I deserve to live forever or not. Why would I want to? Even in the truth, people didn't really want anything to do with me. So I guess I don't really care anymore. I'd much rather die and not exist than to live in a world with people that really don't give a shit. All I have is family, and that can only make me feel okay for so long. All I ever wanted was someone that cared. No matter; I won't live that long anyway. Might as well be selfish like everyone else, right?
Jut got turned onto your vids via YAHWEHtoHELL. I was born/raised/never baptized/out almost 20 years now. Just last night I was talking with a friend who I grew up with who is also a former JW about having to spend the rest of ones life on the new system going to fucking meetings! haha No thanks!
Awesome! Yea, Yah is a cool dude. Him and Dustin both tried to talk some sense into me back when I was a JW. But you know how it is. That's something we have to face within ourselves.
A lot of my videos have been deleted because I'm starting over with this channel. Everything now will be in the format of my latest video.
I figured apostasy is now my new theme. In fact, there are very big plans going on right now behind the scenes. There is a purpose to all this. Stay tuned
I want to be as close to reality as possible. Religion and dogma complicates matters. Certainty can be counterproductive when the real answers do not actually exist. The lie is what we believe until its effects wear off. If there is a God, religion would be his biggest enemy.
haha wow.. my congregation never does tht.. yours musta been strict.
they never criticize me on the way i speak or nvr say anything bout me missing meetings.. and they are really loving and juss pretty chill. but yeah same here.. raised with the beliefs. yeah i understand where your coming from on the whole "tracing things back to false gods" my bro has the SAME exacT point. i dnt think your brainwashed or decieved tho. do you think that? juss curious.
Maybe a little. We're all mistaken to some degree. At first I thought I was just destined to be alone. But now I know I'm never really alone at all -- in anything I do.
That's when I discovered the truth. The truth is the lie we believe until discovering we were mistaken. And I'm not merely talking about religion. We all believe things that may or may not be true. Just as my old brothers used to say. It's a light that gets brighter, no?
it's funny I would find this video today. Yesterday I had the thought of knocking on doors trying to convince people to get out of religion GOD WANTS THEM OUT. I'm here to save you and God told me you are going to hell if you believe in religion.
it was a funny thought, I wouldn't want to do that kind of job but it's a job that needs doing.
I totally agree with you, I don't think I'll ever believe in the trinity or burning hell. Also, the righteous residing forever on the earth seems logical to me as well. .... but then I have a lot of WTF moments in this organization, lol
And yes meeting attendance!!! ...they beat that into the ground and they stress that "don't forsake the gathering of ourselves together" scripture way too much!! It's insane. My cynical side says that all this stress put on meetings means brainwashing??
I really like what Isiah says. The place of rest for the weary one. It goes on to say that they did not listen. God's word becomes command upon command, measuring line upon measuring line. Here a little, there a little. --somewhere in the 28th chapter.
That is basically what has happened. Religion... none of them, are anything but a place of rest or relief. They just create more problems and anxiety. Our "wise men" are useless. Only God can sort this mess out. Isiah 29:14 is very comforting.
It's religion's illogical self assurance that bothers me. We all have the same information. But our most valued characteristic -- logic -- is often minimalized by vanity and shortsightedness.
How can we ever hope to know the answers if we don't even know the questions? It's as if we resolved to build a roof while just hoping the foundation materializes before we start construction. No wonder reality can come crashing down on us.
On the point of luck, it's really not just necessarily bc of the god of luck, but also because relying on luck is like relying on destiny. There's really no four-clovered game to life that if you play right u'll end up better off....honestly, life is what you make of it. If you work hard and pass a test, it's because you worked hard, not because of luck, you know. jehovah as well helps you through things, and when he helps us we really shouldn't give that credit to luck
That's part of the problem. Why so superstitious? It's absurd. When people say, "Oh, that was a lucky shot. Or just bad luck I guess."
They're not talking about some kind of mysterious mystic force. Luck is often used to describe chance and random, often coincidental, occurrence.
Have a wedding ring? That's pagan. Ever tell anyone you'll see them on Friday? Be careful! All the days of the weeks were named after false Gods. You might make Jehovah mad. Better give them some other name instead.
have you studied the history of catholisim? and how a lot of people steal many from the parishioners asking them tithe? JWs dont aprove of wars or any political party. "making a murder"? what are you talking about? they didnt stand something about your behaviour, but that´s not a murder
you cant deny that JW are a particular and unique religion in the sense that the love and peace you find there, you cant find them in any other religion. I say this because I was not raised in a JW family. And also, the JW are the only ones who actually read the Bible, and try to find and follow what the Bible says. There isnt hypocresy. You cant deny that.
i am sorry i have to disagree, because i didn t find that peace and love, because there where to many people who did wrong and didn t follow the bible.
Only you couldn t see that from the outside, you have to be in their for at least for jears to see it.
My parents loved me i now for shure, but their religion killed many things
of course there are people who follow and do not follow what the Bible says, but the ones who do what they want is a small group compare to the thousands of JWs that can be really called christians. Maybe in the congregation you used to attend the meetings (that mettings you hate so much heh) the majority were people who really loved Jehovah.
"Killed many things"? what are you talking about??
I have another question for you, do you now belong to another religion? i doubt...
Killed many things because: when my brothers and i didnt want to be a JW anymore(we where baptist) they couldn t have the contact with us anymore as the way they wishes.But the wursed thing is that their religion make s them believing that God are gone to distroy us when the time comes.God want s you to love your neigbour as your own, how can you love somebody who want s to distroy your neigbour, because he love God only he has a different religion
the question is: will you be destroyed when the time comes? what do you honestly think? there is something true: God will destroy the ones who dont do what he says, that´s a fact. Are you really doing what He says? If you do, you wont be destroyed, it doesn´t matter if you are JW or not. The point is you that you must have an honest desire of pleased God. If you know what he doesnt like, and you do it, you will be destroyed. So are you sure that when the day comes you will survive?
y does everybody trip off the fact that we curse! were humans too, of course were not supposed to buutttt.... we make mistakes! o well.... u guys just need to suck it up accept JW as u would catholics and as we would atheists! its religion! get used to it! its not going anywhere! except when it all gets banned and then.....
Of course, anything contrary to popular opinion is false Christianity. It was always like that, even during Jesus day. Popular opinion always dictates truth. This is highly accepted among abstract scientist world wide.
For anyone to not profane God, they must recognize him as a brutal, dictatorial sociopath of eternal torture and pain. Anything else is blasphemy!
These so called Christians with their one God that doesn't torture people. What do they know? Just another fruity cult.
God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. 1 John 4:5
It was, and always is, not the popular, but the scripture, which, through worldwide scrutiny, has NOT changed. Very much unlike the watchtowers attempt at religion, which constantly changes its doctrine to suit its targets. so, in regard to your feeble try at a non comformist-esque anti religious statement. you are wrong.
The truth used to be Judaism, but Jesus came and changed it. Anyone holding to the old ways were no longer in the truth. So yea, things can and will change
You and me will be forced to change. None of us know much of anything. Our love may appear to run deep, but when we start thinking we have all the answers is when we make our mistake (1st Corinthians 8:2)
Just because you have false doctrines that do not change doesn't credit their validity.
no. the truth was GOD. when jesus came and died the ones who chose NOT to follow him became Judaic and the others CHRISTian.
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. John 14:1
doesnt credit their validity? but Christianity is no scam, and does not need to hide or change anything, such as cults like mormonism and The watchtower must. unfortunately, it is quite difficult to decipher just what you do actually believe.
Christianity is no scam? I agree. True Christianity is no scam, but that doesn't mean they are perfect. Even the apostles made doctrinal errors. Consider John 21:21-23
While I agree that the Watchtower has problems, those problems do not discredit the truths they have revealed. There is no Trinity God. That's a fraud. There is no literal hell. That is a lie perpetuated by Satan. These are two truths that I hold sacred.
There are obviously others, but those are some of the most important.
...The truth was GOD. when jesus came and died the ones who chose NOT to follow him became Judaic and the others CHRISTian.
And no, this is wrong. The truth was once Judaism. In fact, it was the truth for thousands of years. Anyone denying that is either willfully ignorant or has not read the scriptures
For generations the Jews were God's people. Jesus even instructed his disciples to submit themselves to pharisees! Though hypocritical, he said do as they teach, not as they conduct themselves
i can see you are not completely lost, although much teachings of deception have stuck with you. you might as well be a jehovas witness for all i care, i could speak the truth to you and you would never listen.
I have abandoned all teachings I find false. I hold on to what is fine. I make sure of the things I assume, and I recognize my own limitations
If Jehovah would have me as his witness, I would eagerly comply. You really should not be worried about my beliefs. You should be more concerned with your own beliefs.
First, I don't think you are permanently brainwashed or deceived. If you do your research then you will find your way out of their teachings. Will it always be an influence- yes, but it doesn't have to control your life.
Secondly, you say you cannot worship a god who would send people to Hell, but you will believe in one who will kill about 99% of the population in Armagedon? How is one more merciful than the other?
My heart goes out to you. Leaving is not easy. I have been there.
Im a jehova's wittness and my openion was even if you said all of what you said you shoudln't have left becouse now you are going to be much easy Bait for satan.
Without Jehovah we are like samurai without sword. There is truth to what you say.
Nevertheless, ones relationship with Jehovah is not defined by demographic participation and social conformity. Each person has a unique situation.
That is the point behind Galatians 6:4. No two individuals have to same circumstance, and Jehovah knows and understands this. Jehovah is not adding up our scores on his laptop. This isn't a game of Pac-Man. We couldn't earn salvation if we tried.
lol... they said that to me 15 years ago rpd... if you were raised a catholic you would say something else and so on and so forth... break free if you want.. but when and if you do dont forget everyone cuts you off even mommy and daddy... is that what god really wants... ive met better catholics and protestants who were more moral than brothers and sisters of the kingdom hall, will jeshovah destroy them.. COME ON
Hahaha, aww man. I don't know why, but this mad me laugh. I usually get all these elaborate condemnations, hate mail, and random threats. It's refreshing to get some ordinary insults every once and awhile.
heeeeey buddy, how you doin? I missed this batch of videos from you. Rest assured I will go through all of them, sifting all the evidence, like a good private detective !!. Great to see you bud. take care
I think it is Great that you are thinking for yourself. And it is good to hear that you still believe in God. No one needs religion to to reach God. Just ask God to reveal himself to you... you will be amazed at how willing he is to show up. You can be set free from the indoctrination. Look up how many times Jesus said "come to me" and whoever the Son sets free is free indeed. I used to be a JW as well, I traded religion for God, and I am free.
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These "Mindless Sheep" have been conditioned into believing all that the watchtower society deems as "TRUTH." Blind obedience or you are shunned, which is far worse than an islamic honor killing. When you are disfeffowshipped, you are cast out from "jehova's protection" and his other mindless lambs. Your family turns their backs on you as if you are dead. My parents and some siblings are dead. I never went to their funerals, not because I was not welcome, but because I moved on.
jonathonlb 2 weeks ago
coming out of a cult is always difficult this is how I came to realize it was a cult. I now will never believe in any man made religion again, I do believe in god and I do not have a problem going to any church and listen to their view of the bible but I have no desire to join a religion.
mygoodies411 2 weeks ago
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im so glad you scape!!! i guess now theres no religion with the high standars tha you lookin for??? hehehehe im so glad your back to SATAN with rest of US :D....lol
ByRONykDooM 2 weeks ago
and it'll be just in time for the meeting! :0
52flipflop 1 month ago
Don't give on God man, when you die you'll be in the new world to be given a REAL chance to understand and obey!
52flipflop 1 month ago
fersomling.........out of the frying pan and into the fire! The Bible CLEARLY indicates that Jesus and Jehovah are not the same! Remember when Jesus was baptized; he was in the water, the Holy spirit was in the air (in the shape of a dove) and God's voice was heard from heaven.....that one incident right there shows that the Father, Son and Holy spirit are three DISTINCT entities!
52flipflop 1 month ago
anzwertree, so you think you're going to only have life in this system.....do you really think that man has had a fair chance to learn the truth about god and to serve him? Well, a few have but the vast majority have not. So don't give up on yourself and think this life is all there is for you, the Bible indicates that there'll be a ressurection of both the righteouse and the unrighteous and it's during the millinium of Christ reign that man will be judged.
52flipflop 1 month ago
@52flipflop Look back at Star Wars when Han Solo shoots the bounty hunter Greedo at the Mos Eisley Cantina. If you compare versions, you'll see Solo actually shot first. This is clearly a parable for love a sacrifice. Does any of that sound enlightening? Probably not. Since I think theology is a bunch of bullshit, pointing out a few plot points and character sheets is about as convincing as reciting Lord of the Rings.
anzwertree 1 month ago
I quit the JWs in October, 1975 after the New World failed to arrive when predicted. I believe, along with 2 billion other Christians, that Jesus is God Almighty (John 1:1 KJV) and that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are One. (1 St. John 5:7)
Fersomling 2 months ago
funny vid man..resurrection..hey welcome back just in time for a meeting..classic! :D
LoxxStarR 4 months ago
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i always say C--I--A
great something call >Al-Q-a-e-d-a< to destroy -I-slam
and they great something call -Jehovah's Witn-esses--Evang-elicals-- to destroy Christianity
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nofallyaqoo 4 months ago
the problem is everybody takes the bible literally, and nobody seems to take it symbolically. my friend once said to me jokingly,"i love tall tales like the bible."
then i realized that there was actually truth to what he said. nobody takes the story of the rabbit and the hare as a factual belief that they memorize word by word.
litavanegas12 5 months ago
Many people say that it's very old fashion to believe in bible and god but that's not so.... Which is more epic: That humans have evolved and die and are erased from excistance. Or that God created 2 people who failed and then he made a promise of jesus coming on earth, before that Egypt started using hepreans as slaves and god sent them free with moses but then they failed and then jesus came and gave us ransom, and now we are living the final days and god will soon fill his purpose. Thats EPIC
1Minute60Seconds 6 months ago
@1Minute60Seconds I agree, that would be an interesting prospect. A greater purpose, cosmic justice, everlasting life. Indeed, that would be exciting news. Unfortunately, the inherent epic nature of a scenario has no veracity upon the truth value of a proposition. For example, what is more epic? Evolving under natural laws that govern the universe, or intentional creation by omnipotent transdimensional chocolate thunder bunnies? That sounds pretty epic. But it's still a fabrication
anzwertree 6 months ago
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eternityandforever 3 months ago
@eternityandforever We don't automatically copy ourselves. Humans don't reproduce asexually. And yes, copy machines are cool. I'm a big fan myself. Unfortunately, you are comparing an inorganic machine with a biological organism. These are two very different things. Copy machines cannot reproduce. Just like you said. Humans can have children. That's how evolution works. Ongoing changes and adaptation through random mutations and natural selection. Without reproduction, evolution cannot flourish.
anzwertree 3 months ago
@1Minute60Seconds People give BIRTH to humans.They are better than any copy machine I've seen. THINK about all the WORK that actually goes into making a copy machine...and it ONLY copies a page. We are millions of more times complicated than a copy machine, and we automatically copy ourselves! This is Supremely GENIOUS! ONLY a SUPER INTELLIGENT God could create us. LOOK around, and everything else is copying itself, too! Perpetual motion. Recycling, It's all here! We live in a pure miracle!
eternityandforever 3 months ago
The Jehovah Witness Organization has ruined you: all you have been taught are lies!! The very hell you do not believe in, you will live an eternity in. Praying your eye's are opened & you see the Truth!!
Blessed2BeeAlive 7 months ago
@Blessed2BeeAlive The God of terroristic threats. That's the Christianity I'm familiar with. Believe in this nonsense or else you'll be sorry! If that's true your God is a dick -- unworthy of worship. How can it be moral to torture people in hell for a finite crime? God is going to send me to hell simply for not believing something? That's absurd. Why is belief in something without evidence a good thing? Do you think I deserve to be tortured forever?
anzwertree 7 months ago 2
@anzwertree No dude you deserve to be respected as a fucking human being on this earth :)
3runnerBL3X 4 months ago
@3runnerBL3X I get no respect. The way my luck is running, if I was a politician I would be honest. -Rodney Dangerfield
anzwertree 4 months ago
@anzwertree I grew up with family playing cards for money,bingo nights at the Columbian Hall,bets, and other gambling.Small change$ bets. WE always said, good luck, prayed for luck- Catholics and believed in it. It really is a belief.The bible says NOT to put our trust in the 'god of good luck'=Isaiah 65:11.There it explains they are 'gods'. So instead of saying, 'lucky' I say 'happy'. I tell people I don't believe in 'luck'. I am so glad I KNOW that it's not true.I am RELIEVED of the pressure!
eternityandforever 3 months ago
@eternityandforever I don't believe in luck either. It's just an expression. Sure, some people really do believe in luck. I think they are mistaken, but people are free to form their own conclusions. Some people believe in gods. I'm an atheist. Some people believe God is sitting up there adding up our scores on his laptop. While I do not intend to offend anybody of faith, I believe science has a much more compelling answer than religion. I'm going to die soon, and that makes me the lucky one.
anzwertree 3 months ago
@anzwertree Meetings are what the early Christians established. Before that the Jews went to the temple and heard the reading of the scrolls (not printing press then). The bible has alot to learn, and we have to constantly fight off Satan's attacks and influence from TV, videos, movies, magazines, neighbors, co-workers, school mates. I have seen alot of things, many bad things I don't even want to repeat, that it is SO MUCH better to spend my time studying the bible instead of doing bad things!!
eternityandforever 3 months ago
@eternityandforever I am going to die, and this will most likely be my only life. But most people are never going to die because they are never going to live. We know this because the amount of potential possibilities of genetic combination for human life outnumber the sand grains of Sahara. Yes, we are going to die. But we are the lucky ones because we have experienced this beautiful place, if only for a short time.
Citation
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anzwertree 3 months ago
"Gentle Mafia" is a good term.
Their main tool is coercion, the ad bacculum fallacy.
Their God has a big stick, represents mind-control.
It's nice to hear that you've formed your own alternative
beliefs.
Grrraig 7 months ago
deprogram yourself of any doctrine including the bible how ever hard it may be it doesn't serve you, look within and discover everything you've been waiting for all the answers are there, you have powers, wisdom and knowledge hidden within you empower yourself the only one judging you is yourself. There's a reason all these doctrines and religions exist and its to take your power away, the true Jesus would tell you this
5Dshapeshifter116 9 months ago
@5Dshapeshifter116 This is an old video. My beliefs have changed drastically since it was produced. Now I am atheist by definition and agnostic by nature.
anzwertree 9 months ago
@anzwertree man im baptist dated a jw and man do they mess with your head i could understand why your an atheist . they make you question things and make you confused .. im sorry .God is good but he doesnt want you to suffer or torture you .
miamibabii77 5 months ago
@1955JAFO hell= death. jeez! thats all! death. you die, youre dead. not a spirit walking the earth. dead. no point in people suffering cuz of imperfection. you die, you never knew you exsisted, so youll never matter, youre dead. dead ...dead dead dead. ha ha ha! duh! thats people taking things little-ral agian! 2nd grade. sheeesh!
DownHavenFilms 9 months ago
aw baby needs his bottle. welcome to the new system lets make a meeting. oh you cant cuz u where chillin wit god of death and you said luck. ha ha ha! im proly not helping here... i like to say luck im leaving too! ah! im dead! ahhh!
DownHavenFilms 9 months ago
Keep learning and searching and you will at least become an agnostic.
MsAgnosticatheist 9 months ago
@MsAgnosticatheist I am an atheist. I leave my old videos up to remind me where I came from.
anzwertree 9 months ago
@anzwertree Awesome
MsAgnosticatheist 9 months ago
You look kind of like that pick up artist guy, Mystery
whatnamesnottakenyet 11 months ago
you say you could never believe in a trinity or a hell but i think you could... if you wanted too.... i mean if you found some evidence that was so strong toward believing something that you never thought you'd believe then i guess you could believe it.... right?
kiekie84 1 year ago
@kiekie84 My beliefs have changed a good deal since this video was first posted. If a place like hell was demonstrated to exist, then yes, even if I did not like the idea, I would accept what the evidence suggested. However, assuming such a place did exist, it definitely would not encourage any love for the God who created it. If anything, it would only give more reason to oppose such a being. In my opinion, the doctrine of hell only complements a God of infinite malevolence and injustice.
anzwertree 11 months ago
@anzwertree well I'm not going to tell you there is a hell and I'm not going to tell you there isn't a hell but i will ask this what you think happens to those who don't believe in any God at all?
kiekie84 11 months ago
@kiekie84 What should happen to them? I don't believe in any gods. I don't believe in Zeus, Thor, Jehovah... I'm an atheist. In other words, I am without belief in any gods. I don't see how believing in something without justification is a good thing. I find this God morally reprehensible. A raping child molester converts upon his death and enters paradise. A good caring person that didn't believe in God is doomed to be tortured forever. That God -- if real -- is not worthy of worship
anzwertree 11 months ago
I swear I must be different from all the former JW's. Like you, I was born a JW, but never believed in God. My mother forced me to go to the Kingdom Hall until I was 16. Even at a young age I never believed in the bible. I never paid much attention to what they said. I know what I believe and left at a early age. JW are nice people, but they seem to be ignorant to anyone differ from them. I can't relate to what you say, but I've notice that JW's from around the world act differently.
MyLittleHero95 1 year ago
Maybe you just believe in an idea of yourself?
Juefawn 1 year ago
IF YOU SAY "LUCK" YOU ARE UN-LUCKY ?
IF YOU SAY "PHUCK" YOU´RE PHUCKED ?
LUCK, DUCK, PHUCK OUTLAW THOSE
WORDS THEY ARE EVIL !
IGOROZKARSKY 1 year ago
THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETINGS ?
IS TO DRIVE IN DEEPER THE
INDOCTRINATION.
ITS LIKE HAMMERING IN A NAIL,
ONE BLOW IS NOT ENOUGH.
ITS THE SAME THING THAT
GOES ON IN AA MEETINGS.
I WAS 25 YEARS THERE,
I KNOW.
IGOROZKARSKY 1 year ago
I am what you call a jw and seeing this video has made me think twice about being one I've been one all my life and I'm 19 soon and I had the same problem with the luck word thank you for sharing this I will tell the elders I QUIT thx again
sean8472 1 year ago
THE BIBLE IS THE GREATEST WORK OF FICTION EVER WRITTEN. AND JEHOVAS WITNESSES ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A CULT LIKE MORMONS AND SCIENTOLOGY.
mrdsl2217 1 year ago
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TheHoracioMedinaShow 1 year ago
I agree with you that identity precede your purpose, but is that your purpose growth and evolution? don't you have any greater purpose in life? with the infinite punishment thing, do we not think that all through out our lifetime we commit finite crime and I know that he always forgives. Going to hell is our own choosing not God. What did adam and eve lost when they were cast out in the Garden of Eden?
Thanks for your reply on my last comment...
TheAdvising 1 year ago
@TheAdvising Even if we sinned every second, it wouldn't merit being roasted forever. That's nonsense. It is unjust to the highest degree. If there was a hell where some God tortured people, then I want nothing to do with such an evil God. I'd rather be tortured than stand by his side. He didn't have to create us at all. At one time I didn't exist. He'd be more merciful had he never bothered creating us, if the price was "Love me or be tortured." This God isn't much different from a mafia boss
anzwertree 1 year ago
@anzwertree God doesnt send people to hell or torture them in hell. hell like heaven is a choice. the thing is called free will. he want you to choice him. would you rather him to force people into submission?
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@mjjcng8958 Torturing people for all eternity is pure nonsense. But even IF it was real, and God did design a place to torture people that don't follow him, then I'd much rather go to hell and burn forever than spend even 5 minutes in this God's sadistic paradise. Even the notion of eternal torture for a finite crime is preposterous. Hell cannot even be a punishment. You don't come out of hell a better person. The only reason it would exist is for vengeance. And so your God makes me sick
anzwertree 1 year ago
@mjjcng8958 like i said people send themselves to hell by choice God doesnt want anyone to go their if he did there would be no need for Jesus but your choice
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@mjjcng8958 Who created hell? Does anything happen that doesn't go according to your God's will?
anzwertree 1 year ago
@anzwertree God created hell for satan who rebelled against God. so satan who goes about tempting people to do wrong, wants to torture people and get them to choice hell. but you said you refer to remain ignorant? if God tortured us b/c we dont agree with him then why does he give us free will. free will lets us choice our life so if we choice to go to hell then we can't blame God for our choices
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@mjjcng8958 If God created hell, please show me where he mentions it in Genesis. Where did he warn Adam and Eve that there was a parallel dimension of eternal torment? Where did you get this "Hell was originally created for Satan" because it sure isn't in the Bible. I say death is more just than torture. God didn't have to create us at all. If this was the price of creation, then he shouldn't have bothered. Your God -- if he exists like you claim --- is an asshole. He isn't worthy of worship
anzwertree 1 year ago
@anzwertree dude you can read right? if you can read then why do you need me to tell you? i mean you can buy a bible and read it. if you feel like God is unworthy then why do you need me to prove my point? you already said that you dont care so it would be pointless to show you something you dont beleive in. i am not a jw
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@mjjcng8958 I know why you can't find it. It's because it's not in there. You're just pulling stuff out of your ass. There's no mention of hell in the old testament. Period. No mention of hell's creation. Your fictional hippy Jesus was the one that started that nonsense. Even though the Bible clearly says Jesus "only spoke in illustrations," (Matthew 13:34) yet, you ignore that and take it literally anyway. And that makes you an idiot. Who cares if you're not a JW. Neither am I. I'm an atheist
anzwertree 1 year ago
@anzwertree i cant find it be cause i didnt look. if you really want to know look it up yourself. oh and hell is mentioned in revelation man look it up. a parble was used by Jesus to get the attention of the people and to bring forth the gospel of salvatio. dont try to use scripture you dont believe in against me. an illustraiotn is a picture and he used them so that the people could understand it from their viewpoint
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@mjjcng8958 It's not there, sweetheart. I'm sorry, but I apparently know your Bible better than you do. And what about Revelations? You mean the book with the 7 headed dragon? Yea, that's definitely real. Maybe you should learn to read, yourself. Revelations even tells you AT THE VERY BEGINNING: Revelations 1:1 explicitly says "presented in signs" -- you're really bad at this stuff. An illustration -- get a dictionary -- is also the act of clarifying or explaining; elucidation. A parable
anzwertree 1 year ago
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@anzwertree The Old Testament speaks of hell as a real place. David wrote, "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God (Psalm 9:17). Daniel spoke of hell as a place where the wicked to shame and everlasting contempt (Daniel 12:2). A person cannot believe in the inspiration of the Old Testament without believing in the reality of hell.
So....DUH...
1955JAFO 1 year ago
how many times do you hear us say thats fortunate and yet none say you should not say that its wrong, i mean fortune is luck isnt ti, i think we all say lucky dont we when something is a fluke, so i think you worry too much, do you think jehovah will destroy you if you say luck in a concversation and not mean it as you mean luck, if you know what i mean lol
judgerutherford 1 year ago
Bro. have you thought about purpose? I do agree what you said about why God will do such a thing, torturing his sons when they failed to do what he asked for.
I advise you to read the bible start with Genesis, you will find your self worth there.
On a certain family it is natural to have a reward/punishment set up right?
No religion was ever spoken in the bible, even "born again". I AM Born again but I don't let it mess up my head. Its not the title that makes me born again but my way of living.
TheAdvising 1 year ago
@TheAdvising Purpose is based on identity. Many people have different purposes. My purpose is growth and evolution. I'm always trying to better myself. Of course punishment is necessary. It teaches us and helps improve character. But if you're talking about hell then I disagree. Hellfire is not punishment. You don't come out of hell a better person. If such a place exists, it's only for vengeance. It is infinitely unjust. Infinite torture for a finite crime is unbalanced. No eye for eye justice.
anzwertree 1 year ago
hmmmm you are reaaly angery eh? swearing and sweating under one of your ugly hats won't change truth!! and do you really think YOU beliving in Yahweh is for HIM? the fact that He is loving eniugh to allow you freedom to choose shows it does not effect him but you when satan is able to convince you he does not exist. all negative to the side I beg you to use your intelligence and search out truth! its been proven as a FACT jesus lived and died , choose life!!
jahsent143 1 year ago
@jahsent143 Fact? Personally I'd love to believe there's a God. It means I'd possibly be able to see all my dead relatives. Even my father whom I never met. It's just not realistic. There is no more evidence for Jehovah than there is evidence for Zeus and invisible flying dragons. I haven't heard a good argument for God yet. All I get are insulting people like you who assume they know the truth. I'm tired of BS. I want to know what I believe is true. I'm open minded, though. Show me the facts
anzwertree 1 year ago
See your doing the same thing now in your reply to me... of course I would not mean you are going to far by not choosing to revamp your whole vocab based on words being traced back to 'gods' but you felt the need to strech past my simple point saying luck is rooted to LUCIFER himself why would you NOT want to rethink your use of that word if you are claiming to be a member of the body of christ?? moderation and common sense is what I am speaking of but that seems beyond your reach.
jahsent143 1 year ago
@jahsent143 Huh? You can't be serious? You still believe this nonsense and I'm the one lacking common sense? I don't believe in God. I don't believe in satan. I don't believe in Zeus or Thor. It's all nonsense. If you have something meaningful to say then say it. Otherwise StFu and GTFO
anzwertree 1 year ago
@jahsent143 what happened to make the year 2010 and you know humans have been here before 2010 years ago,so why 2010 when it should be 6035 instead?
judgerutherford 1 year ago
You really went to far with not being able to speak just because you were informed of the root meaning behind a word. anyone with intelligence would welcome truth and knowledge. I was raised a witness too and also chose not to join as an adult but you went from being someone I could relate to a really really bad comedian.
jahsent143 1 year ago
@jahsent143 I went too far saying I would eventually be unable to speak if I eliminated every word that could be traced back to a God? There is a God of silence, a God of music, the days of the week were named after Gods. This isn't new information. But I'm not sure how mentioning this is "going too far". How am I not welcoming truth and knowledge by rejecting something absurd? The knowledge I rejected was them telling me what words I could and couldn't use based on demonstrably false reasoning
anzwertree 1 year ago
@Innerage37 I'm curious to know why u say jws have the highest rate of suicides and mental probs what's ur source??? Just curious cuz I know for a fact it's not true
xoshorty12 1 year ago
Hi, I left about 10 years ago and never missed. I was raised in that philosophy because of my mom. Twist of life let me to click out the spell. Replace your belive in God and you will find out that you only got a piece of the vast Universe of philosphy and just know that is just a piece of the big pie. I love my life ever than ever and I making up for the lost time and loving my life and my relationship with God the Universe more than ever before. Peace Dude...welcome to the real life!
ALOESun 1 year ago
The organization does not want you busy, "Satan is trying to destract us" watch it!
socomplete 1 year ago
hey meetings are very encouraging to us. Look at all the spritual information we receive there. Its for our benifit to be there. We also get to know everyone well. I know there will be meetings in the new system. I look forward to them. They are encouraging, helping us to draw close to Jehovah.
Starlababy 1 year ago
never say never :P You have come a long way baby!
inspirediam 1 year ago
@inspirediam Most definitely. Life is like a constant learning experience. I hate cliches, but the old "Whatever doesn't kill you," thing is very, very true. We gain strength from every trauma. Just when we find the answers, we realize we were asking the wrong questions all along. Reality is definitely counter intuitive.
anzwertree 1 year ago
Meetings are very important. Drawing close to God is what Jehovah's Witnesses want to do and how are you supposed to draw close to God if you don't attend the meetings? Meetings are vital for spritual food. You said you were attending college, which is fine, but young ones seeking higher education is not encouraged, not prohibited, just not encourage because attending college would keep them from attending the meetings. Meetings are great.
melze104 1 year ago
good point about the doctrines being a part of you. i feel the same way. there are many things that the witnesses have figured out about the bible which do set us free from being in morbid fear of god. i do believe that they have done the best job of any religion in explaining the bible.
Ive been having trouble with the bible itself lately. esp. the hebrew scriptures. i haven't been to a meeting since the memorial and i have yet to get one call from any elder.
hardhick 1 year ago
I enjoyed listening to you; some very interesting and truthful comments.
yvonnevue 1 year ago
This made me think about of the days of the week and months of the year and planets. Several of them are named after gods. Mars->March, Saturn->Saturday, Thor-> Thursday... etc I mean are we supposed to call it day one, day two, month one month two? Its like the act of trying to eliminate superstitions causes more superstition.
enigma1863 1 year ago
he really have an idea what the bible really teach,,,, but hes its so sad why he left the true religion.....
arleneacaba 1 year ago
they got rid of the one of the meatins so theres no more bookstudy
IDontDoDrumCovers 2 years ago
Yea, but I think they wanted people to do home-time family study on that off day, though.
anzwertree 2 years ago
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Trying to learn about Jehovah's Witnesses by watching these videos is like trying to learn about Jesus by discussing him with Judas Iscariot. Let these apostates have their day, they are receiving their glory in full.
johngoodmansbrother 2 years ago
@archeng123
"Jesus is not the I AM" I know
What is it you are asking? I don't need to prove anything to you. I have my own name for the Lord, because the name Amightywind is using has been disgraced by them. And His name didn't come from Greek anyway, When Moses asked for a name, He said just tell them I Am. He wasn't giving Moses His name, because His name is incomprehensible to us.
TheLawFulfilled 2 years ago
d James 4:4; 1John 5:19; 2 Cor.4:4. Your exaggerated .Meeting can help you be strong when problems arrive see and go nearer to the Almighty God will see .The problem w/you now is you lost the warm love to the creator because of fear of man see! No it is your life that you are giving to Satan by removing yourself out of the protection that Almighty Jehovah God gave us in the Congregation. Better Pray hard Ok?
smagisa 2 years ago
Dude! LOL! I laughed my ass off when you were talkin about resurection to keep goin to meetings! LMFAO! that was great, but so true! my girlfriend is getting into j.w. teachings deeper & deeper. Its gonna kill us! I know it. The teaching seems to pray on fear, and from what ive experienced NO HAPPINESS! J.w's have a really high rate of suicide and mental conditions like depression. They have the highest rate out of all the general public ive read.
Innerage37 2 years ago
If she becomes a JW it's as good as over. Unless you become a JW too. It's like a club. If you're not part of their club you cannot be part of them. What you say is very true.
Remember religion isn't the enemy, though. It's putting too much faith in "A religion" that can be bad. Religion by itself is merely the study of God. If you love your girl, study the scriptures and encourage her to do the same. But stress the importance of not leaning on our own understanding and to keep an open mind.
anzwertree 2 years ago
@Innerage37 The problem with the WTBTS is that they brainwash people. It works by people doing a 'study', eg reading wtbts literature, then answering questions in their own language but according to the precepts in the artical. This is brainwashing because the person is never allowed to question the teaching. See the videos of properganda techniques, for more info !
ironjohnlad 1 year ago
@ironjohnlad Indeed, if anyone understands that I do. It's fascinating to outsiders to hear about life in the org. But no one really understands it fully unless they have lived the lifestyle. PropagandaTechniques is an excellent vlogger on Youtube. He's a brilliant guy who takes his cause seriously. PropaMan, Timkilgore, Yahwehtohell, Dustin, godvids, and thundef00t are just some of my favorites here on Youtube
anzwertree 1 year ago
There are plenty of groups that do not believe in hell, immortal soul etc. Some are Seventh Day Adventists, then there is the Church of God Seventh Day, Christadelphians, and 300 splinter groups from the Worldwide Church of God.
Keep searching for the truth!
herbertwarmstrong 2 years ago
I applaud you for having the courage to take your stand. Most people don't, they just keep letting other people run their lives, it's easier than thinking for themselves.
TheLawFulfilled 2 years ago
Thanks, bro. It's nice to get some positive comments every once and awhile. 90% are trolls. Even to this day, over a year since I disassociated, I still get hate mail. A few of them found my personal information. They posted my cell on craigslist. I get a lot of weird messages on a constant basis, and there's not really anything I can do about it. Part of the drawbacks to coming forward with any kind of message, I guess.
anzwertree 2 years ago
were you not strong enough to be treated badly by the way ward men be strong stand tall those who say bad things about trying to worship god are not worthy why would any one dishonor a faithful person
GarbageAngel 2 years ago
Staying in a cult, and molding yourself to appease the whims of its followers isn't exercising strength. But it does demonstrate ones capacity to think for them self. Life is simply too short and precious to spend it in the shadows of another's definition. Life is. Make it your own, or set your mind to autopilot and cost through it without a clue. If you can't choose a path, there are plenty of people ready to make that decision for you. Happy hunting.
anzwertree 2 years ago
What a horrible experience. My experience of Evangelical Christianity wasn't so extreme as your JW, but it was somewhere close on the scale of irrationality, and I'm also glad I was able to see through it eventually.
darrylsloan 2 years ago
Yeah, and ever since I left, I've been a big target for trolls online. Some of them found my address. I get actual hate mail. It's crazy. Whoever they are, they probably aren't JW's.
My experience with religion definitely affected my personality. Going from a closed minded environment to reality was really rough. I'm just now starting to recover mentally. The real world works a lot different from what you're made to believe inside a cult. You have to completely reprogram the mind.
anzwertree 2 years ago
I joined the Baptist church to help me purge the catholic upbringing I had. Their dogma was harder to purge though, after only a couple years there it years to purge there legalism. I probably still have shreds left. Yours sounds more like peer pressure than the threat of hellfire, but when you're brought up with the garbage it's hard to throw it out.
TheLawFulfilled 2 years ago
It's really hard to explain. Not so much peer pressure as it is conditioning you to police your thoughts. That's the mark of a cult. They teach you to be afraid of your own natural inclinations. But peer pressure is certainly a part of it. We want to be accepted, and living in a religious environment is very persuasive -- hellfire or not.
anzwertree 2 years ago
That's what happen to me. Someone found the videos I was making defending "the truth."
I was told too many apostates lurked online. I was told to cease making videos about my faith. I even made a goodbye video. Dustin knew what was up, though. The reason I turned against it was because of their controlling attitude.
anzwertree 2 years ago
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"The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." (The Watchtower, March 1, 1922)
The indisputable facts are that the Watchtower Society is a FRAUD!
The governing body are gonna ROT IN HELL FIRE (greek: pur asbestos) for all eternity. Matt 25v41 & Rev 14v10,11
Also the GREAT CROWD are in HEAVEN.
Rev 7 v9,15, Rev 19 v1 and the LAST DAYS started in 33CE Acts 2 v17.
Watchtower Society FALSE TEACHERS.
watchtowerisevil 2 years ago
Well explained. They really are robots, their every thought is manufactured by the WTS. Who else but a robot would be forbidden to use "independent thinking"? In any case, "worship Jehovah or die at Armageddon" is not an exercise in free will, or choice, it is extortion.
zeldagoblin 2 years ago
@filmbuff98 No problem. Jehovah God gave us the gift of choice. Otherwise we would be just robots who can't give glory to the Creator of heaven and earth and all the wonderful things in it. He deserves our praise from our heartfelt appreciation for all he has given us. He deserves our total devotion as our Creator. We all have the choice if we want to live and praise God forever or not.
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DianaDM123 2 years ago
Diana, why are you conversing with apostates on Youtube? Do your elders know what you're up to? Did you know you could be brought before a judicial committee for this?
zeldagoblin 2 years ago 2
@filmbuff98 You are right about the religions of today. They do not teach what the Bible says. There is no such thing as hellfire, And God, &Jesus are not a Trinity, along with the immortality of the soul. These teachings are found in false pagan religions. Jesus said people would teach commands of men as doctrine, That's why it is so important to study what it actually says. Everlasting life is worth it. Jesus said the mild tempered will inherit the earth Matt.5:5.
DianaDM123 2 years ago
checkout, the ewatchman. He used to be a JW too. Even IF the org was the truth. It would probably end up like what the watchman says. They too will be wrong. 1914 never made sense to me either. The org has problems, and it has become like an idol. That's my problems with the org. -- ewatchmandotcom
anzwertree 2 years ago
@filmbuff98 I'm sorry you feel that way, but I've been associated with Jehovah's Witnesses 47 years and the only thing I've seen them do is direct me to what the Bible promises. I've read the Bible many times and see that their teachings are taken strictly from the Bible. That's all they spend their time doing, researching the Bible to make sure their lives and teachings are in line with what it says, and they do this free. But Jehovah made us free to choose what we will do with our Lives.
DianaDM123 2 years ago
Don't confuse God with religion. If he exists, religion is his biggest enemy.
anzwertree 2 years ago
@filmbuff98 You really don't know Jehovah God very well. Do you really think that a God of love will allow those kind of people to live forever? Read Ps 37:10,11. Also please read 2Peter 3:7. If Jehovah allowed those kind of people into his righteous new order, we would have the very same condition we have now. In Rev. 21:3,4 it says we will not have any of these depressing conditions, such as sickness, death and sorrow. That's the new order that Jehovah promises. Matt.5:5.
DianaDM123 2 years ago
Hahahaha! We should stop trolling these poor deceived souls.
anzwertree 2 years ago
@anzwertree Since when is knowledge a bad thing. People used to believe the earth was flat when if they just read their Bible they would have read that the earth is round. People didn't believe in germs at one time because they couldn't see them but now they have the microscope. Lack of knowledge is what is dangerous. That's why we offer a free home Bible Study so you can see for yourself what it says. We do all our work free. Of, course, it is still up to you what you do with it.
DianaDM123 2 years ago
Why would you want to leave the only religion that teaches you that you can live forever in a paradise where there will no longer be any suffering, death, war, and crime? Where you can always be happy? and with people who truly love each other, and the only true God and Creator Jehovah. He just wants us to be happy. And He is only asking for exclusive devotion and to and obey His commands. How hard can that be? We offer free home Bible Studies. Do you want to live forever?
DianaDM123 2 years ago
I'm not sure if I deserve to live forever or not. Why would I want to? Even in the truth, people didn't really want anything to do with me. So I guess I don't really care anymore. I'd much rather die and not exist than to live in a world with people that really don't give a shit. All I have is family, and that can only make me feel okay for so long. All I ever wanted was someone that cared. No matter; I won't live that long anyway. Might as well be selfish like everyone else, right?
anzwertree 2 years ago
Jut got turned onto your vids via YAHWEHtoHELL. I was born/raised/never baptized/out almost 20 years now. Just last night I was talking with a friend who I grew up with who is also a former JW about having to spend the rest of ones life on the new system going to fucking meetings! haha No thanks!
hilldiggity 2 years ago
Awesome! Yea, Yah is a cool dude. Him and Dustin both tried to talk some sense into me back when I was a JW. But you know how it is. That's something we have to face within ourselves.
A lot of my videos have been deleted because I'm starting over with this channel. Everything now will be in the format of my latest video.
I figured apostasy is now my new theme. In fact, there are very big plans going on right now behind the scenes. There is a purpose to all this. Stay tuned
anzwertree 2 years ago
It's absolutely a personal choice. And for some, they are cool to stay JW's, which is why we have Free Will!
I look forward to your new vids. I should get some shit posted... :)
hilldiggity 2 years ago
I want to be as close to reality as possible. Religion and dogma complicates matters. Certainty can be counterproductive when the real answers do not actually exist. The lie is what we believe until its effects wear off. If there is a God, religion would be his biggest enemy.
anzwertree 2 years ago
haha wow.. my congregation never does tht.. yours musta been strict.
they never criticize me on the way i speak or nvr say anything bout me missing meetings.. and they are really loving and juss pretty chill. but yeah same here.. raised with the beliefs. yeah i understand where your coming from on the whole "tracing things back to false gods" my bro has the SAME exacT point. i dnt think your brainwashed or decieved tho. do you think that? juss curious.
tamb90 2 years ago
Maybe a little. We're all mistaken to some degree. At first I thought I was just destined to be alone. But now I know I'm never really alone at all -- in anything I do.
That's when I discovered the truth. The truth is the lie we believe until discovering we were mistaken. And I'm not merely talking about religion. We all believe things that may or may not be true. Just as my old brothers used to say. It's a light that gets brighter, no?
anzwertree 2 years ago
it's funny I would find this video today. Yesterday I had the thought of knocking on doors trying to convince people to get out of religion GOD WANTS THEM OUT. I'm here to save you and God told me you are going to hell if you believe in religion.
it was a funny thought, I wouldn't want to do that kind of job but it's a job that needs doing.
Judy101101 2 years ago
I was born in too... all you have to do is study the history of the origin of religion itself and all your questions will be answered.
SomeStylistGuy 2 years ago
The history of religion is scary. All of them have blood on their hands.
anzwertree 2 years ago
I totally agree with you, I don't think I'll ever believe in the trinity or burning hell. Also, the righteous residing forever on the earth seems logical to me as well. .... but then I have a lot of WTF moments in this organization, lol
And yes meeting attendance!!! ...they beat that into the ground and they stress that "don't forsake the gathering of ourselves together" scripture way too much!! It's insane. My cynical side says that all this stress put on meetings means brainwashing??
dawnmcneil1 2 years ago
I really like what Isiah says. The place of rest for the weary one. It goes on to say that they did not listen. God's word becomes command upon command, measuring line upon measuring line. Here a little, there a little. --somewhere in the 28th chapter.
That is basically what has happened. Religion... none of them, are anything but a place of rest or relief. They just create more problems and anxiety. Our "wise men" are useless. Only God can sort this mess out. Isiah 29:14 is very comforting.
anzwertree 2 years ago
It's religion's illogical self assurance that bothers me. We all have the same information. But our most valued characteristic -- logic -- is often minimalized by vanity and shortsightedness.
How can we ever hope to know the answers if we don't even know the questions? It's as if we resolved to build a roof while just hoping the foundation materializes before we start construction. No wonder reality can come crashing down on us.
anzwertree 2 years ago
On the point of luck, it's really not just necessarily bc of the god of luck, but also because relying on luck is like relying on destiny. There's really no four-clovered game to life that if you play right u'll end up better off....honestly, life is what you make of it. If you work hard and pass a test, it's because you worked hard, not because of luck, you know. jehovah as well helps you through things, and when he helps us we really shouldn't give that credit to luck
C3JC 2 years ago
That's part of the problem. Why so superstitious? It's absurd. When people say, "Oh, that was a lucky shot. Or just bad luck I guess."
They're not talking about some kind of mysterious mystic force. Luck is often used to describe chance and random, often coincidental, occurrence.
Have a wedding ring? That's pagan. Ever tell anyone you'll see them on Friday? Be careful! All the days of the weeks were named after false Gods. You might make Jehovah mad. Better give them some other name instead.
anzwertree 2 years ago
Your right about saying that the majority who really loved Jehovah, but there are so many people with other religion who do to.
It s not the fact that people really do love God know they do, it s the religion who are making a murder Out of him.
MsAllyouneed 2 years ago
have you studied the history of catholisim? and how a lot of people steal many from the parishioners asking them tithe? JWs dont aprove of wars or any political party. "making a murder"? what are you talking about? they didnt stand something about your behaviour, but that´s not a murder
juliette248 2 years ago
That s what i mean, God is not a murderer, but when people say he is gone to distroy you, because you don t have the same religion.
That s what they told me and not only me, also my brother and other one s
MsAllyouneed 2 years ago
you cant deny that JW are a particular and unique religion in the sense that the love and peace you find there, you cant find them in any other religion. I say this because I was not raised in a JW family. And also, the JW are the only ones who actually read the Bible, and try to find and follow what the Bible says. There isnt hypocresy. You cant deny that.
juliette248 2 years ago
i am sorry i have to disagree, because i didn t find that peace and love, because there where to many people who did wrong and didn t follow the bible.
Only you couldn t see that from the outside, you have to be in their for at least for jears to see it.
My parents loved me i now for shure, but their religion killed many things
MsAllyouneed 2 years ago
of course there are people who follow and do not follow what the Bible says, but the ones who do what they want is a small group compare to the thousands of JWs that can be really called christians. Maybe in the congregation you used to attend the meetings (that mettings you hate so much heh) the majority were people who really loved Jehovah.
"Killed many things"? what are you talking about??
I have another question for you, do you now belong to another religion? i doubt...
juliette248 2 years ago
Only they are making a murderer out of God to say that he is gone to destroy when time is coming.
But that is not only for the JW, that s for almost every religion.
If you now what i have been trough, then you could understand me better.
It s not the name Jehovah that i hate, it s the people who are making there own rules in their religion.
MsAllyouneed 2 years ago
Killed many things because: when my brothers and i didnt want to be a JW anymore(we where baptist) they couldn t have the contact with us anymore as the way they wishes.But the wursed thing is that their religion make s them believing that God are gone to distroy us when the time comes.God want s you to love your neigbour as your own, how can you love somebody who want s to distroy your neigbour, because he love God only he has a different religion
MsAllyouneed 2 years ago
the question is: will you be destroyed when the time comes? what do you honestly think? there is something true: God will destroy the ones who dont do what he says, that´s a fact. Are you really doing what He says? If you do, you wont be destroyed, it doesn´t matter if you are JW or not. The point is you that you must have an honest desire of pleased God. If you know what he doesnt like, and you do it, you will be destroyed. So are you sure that when the day comes you will survive?
juliette248 2 years ago
No i wil not be destroyed, neither are you, nobody will be destroyed.
God will not punish us, we do that already to our selves
MsAllyouneed 2 years ago
so God will do nothing in the future?
juliette248 2 years ago
If there is a God why do we have to look and go trough all the misrabell things?
I found my answer in Jozef Rulof, it s not a religion, it s a feeling, knowing that it is treu.God is not hate he is love.
MsAllyouneed 2 years ago
your right, ive been one for 30 years, i ve seen to much, they make there own rules.
But all religion s make there own rules.
What is better, go from door to door, or helping people with their needs?
If there is a God you can tell me that he would choose the first one.
God is love, he want s us to help people, he want s us to live our lives and search with in ourselves, so that we know what to do.
You to have live your life, make your mistakes, and then learn what is all about.
MsAllyouneed 2 years ago
lol, eternal meeting attendance..
Sarai217 2 years ago
y does everybody trip off the fact that we curse! were humans too, of course were not supposed to buutttt.... we make mistakes! o well.... u guys just need to suck it up accept JW as u would catholics and as we would atheists! its religion! get used to it! its not going anywhere! except when it all gets banned and then.....
pikonmee 2 years ago
lol no its a cult. CULT~ a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious. not yet regarded as a religion by social scientists.
it is not a religion it is Blasphemy of gods holy word by a con man and a hateful disgusting being.
timcisel92 2 years ago
Of course, anything contrary to popular opinion is false Christianity. It was always like that, even during Jesus day. Popular opinion always dictates truth. This is highly accepted among abstract scientist world wide.
For anyone to not profane God, they must recognize him as a brutal, dictatorial sociopath of eternal torture and pain. Anything else is blasphemy!
These so called Christians with their one God that doesn't torture people. What do they know? Just another fruity cult.
anzwertree 2 years ago
hahaha yet you still live like a witness!
since when has science compared to faith?
God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. 1 John 4:5
It was, and always is, not the popular, but the scripture, which, through worldwide scrutiny, has NOT changed. Very much unlike the watchtowers attempt at religion, which constantly changes its doctrine to suit its targets. so, in regard to your feeble try at a non comformist-esque anti religious statement. you are wrong.
timcisel92 2 years ago
Perhaps you should look up the word sarcasm.
The truth used to be Judaism, but Jesus came and changed it. Anyone holding to the old ways were no longer in the truth. So yea, things can and will change
You and me will be forced to change. None of us know much of anything. Our love may appear to run deep, but when we start thinking we have all the answers is when we make our mistake (1st Corinthians 8:2)
Just because you have false doctrines that do not change doesn't credit their validity.
anzwertree 2 years ago
no. the truth was GOD. when jesus came and died the ones who chose NOT to follow him became Judaic and the others CHRISTian.
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. John 14:1
doesnt credit their validity? but Christianity is no scam, and does not need to hide or change anything, such as cults like mormonism and The watchtower must. unfortunately, it is quite difficult to decipher just what you do actually believe.
timcisel92 2 years ago
Christianity is no scam? I agree. True Christianity is no scam, but that doesn't mean they are perfect. Even the apostles made doctrinal errors. Consider John 21:21-23
While I agree that the Watchtower has problems, those problems do not discredit the truths they have revealed. There is no Trinity God. That's a fraud. There is no literal hell. That is a lie perpetuated by Satan. These are two truths that I hold sacred.
There are obviously others, but those are some of the most important.
anzwertree 2 years ago
...The truth was GOD. when jesus came and died the ones who chose NOT to follow him became Judaic and the others CHRISTian.
And no, this is wrong. The truth was once Judaism. In fact, it was the truth for thousands of years. Anyone denying that is either willfully ignorant or has not read the scriptures
For generations the Jews were God's people. Jesus even instructed his disciples to submit themselves to pharisees! Though hypocritical, he said do as they teach, not as they conduct themselves
anzwertree 2 years ago
i can see you are not completely lost, although much teachings of deception have stuck with you. you might as well be a jehovas witness for all i care, i could speak the truth to you and you would never listen.
timcisel92 2 years ago
I have abandoned all teachings I find false. I hold on to what is fine. I make sure of the things I assume, and I recognize my own limitations
If Jehovah would have me as his witness, I would eagerly comply. You really should not be worried about my beliefs. You should be more concerned with your own beliefs.
1st Thessalonians 5:21, Galatians 6:4
Rest assured. Both of us are wrong to some extent, and both of us will be punished. If God doesn't discipline you you are not his son. Hebrews 12:6
anzwertree 2 years ago
First, I don't think you are permanently brainwashed or deceived. If you do your research then you will find your way out of their teachings. Will it always be an influence- yes, but it doesn't have to control your life.
Secondly, you say you cannot worship a god who would send people to Hell, but you will believe in one who will kill about 99% of the population in Armagedon? How is one more merciful than the other?
My heart goes out to you. Leaving is not easy. I have been there.
emilyae86 2 years ago
Im a jehova's wittness and my openion was even if you said all of what you said you shoudln't have left becouse now you are going to be much easy Bait for satan.
RPDgirl3000 2 years ago
Without Jehovah we are like samurai without sword. There is truth to what you say.
Nevertheless, ones relationship with Jehovah is not defined by demographic participation and social conformity. Each person has a unique situation.
That is the point behind Galatians 6:4. No two individuals have to same circumstance, and Jehovah knows and understands this. Jehovah is not adding up our scores on his laptop. This isn't a game of Pac-Man. We couldn't earn salvation if we tried.
anzwertree 2 years ago
lol... they said that to me 15 years ago rpd... if you were raised a catholic you would say something else and so on and so forth... break free if you want.. but when and if you do dont forget everyone cuts you off even mommy and daddy... is that what god really wants... ive met better catholics and protestants who were more moral than brothers and sisters of the kingdom hall, will jeshovah destroy them.. COME ON
trooper744 2 years ago
bait? you are an idiot regarding religious doctrine. bait? you are completely stupid, like the rest of your sham cult.
timcisel92 2 years ago
u suck balls
joserox2 2 years ago
Hahaha, aww man. I don't know why, but this mad me laugh. I usually get all these elaborate condemnations, hate mail, and random threats. It's refreshing to get some ordinary insults every once and awhile.
anzwertree 2 years ago
heeeeey buddy, how you doin? I missed this batch of videos from you. Rest assured I will go through all of them, sifting all the evidence, like a good private detective !!. Great to see you bud. take care
alamo11 2 years ago
Hey, man! I'm doing great. Thanks for the comments and taking the time to watch my videos.
anzwertree 2 years ago
you are fuckn stoned brother?
xxTheCuriousCatxx 2 years ago
no shit
anzwertree 2 years ago
I think it is Great that you are thinking for yourself. And it is good to hear that you still believe in God. No one needs religion to to reach God. Just ask God to reveal himself to you... you will be amazed at how willing he is to show up. You can be set free from the indoctrination. Look up how many times Jesus said "come to me" and whoever the Son sets free is free indeed. I used to be a JW as well, I traded religion for God, and I am free.
May God set you free as well!! :)
PwrOfChristInMe 2 years ago