Mother 3 - Battle Theme for Cancelled N64 Game

[royeric5]

@pokemonfan430 I do I TOTALLY DO!

[PokemonFan430]

Who wants Mother 3 remade with 3D graphics for wii U???

[RedLink27]

@PokemonFan430 Hey man, thats actually a good idea. Just, personaly, I'd rather see it on the N64 myself.

[Jingle041]

This was going tro used for the 3rd boss of the game - Mr. Passion, an artistic ghost. He was also ment to be a hidden, ultimate boss (and is. in the improvisional GBA port). This peice was salvaged and used for his fights.

[marioVSshadow]

@Jingle041 No. This was going to be used as the regular battle theme and was LATER salvaged for Mr Passion

[jopejaful]

Need sheet music. NOW!

[supermantahoo]

@pikafan2132 the game reached a dead end. The 64dd didn't sell well, the gamecube was coming soon so peoples interests were lost, and the game still had alot of bugs and glitches to fix...

[Pikafan2132]

@supermantahoo Man.

[Pikafan2132]

Itoi should have been released this game, no matter what kind of sadness, violence it would have.

[supermantahoo]

@Pikafan2132 thats not why he canceled it though...

[Pikafan2132]

@supermantahoo Then what's the reason besides sadness and violence?

[royeric5]

Man I will finish this game eb/mother fans trust me I will! Well unless someone else does cus I won't b able to develop games til a couple of yeArs but yea I will finish this game and even if I'm new to that technology or it has tons of bugs I will fix them and never quit no matter what!

[Monkeyboy92037]

lol! anal sex!

[ert94464isback]

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[Monkeyboy92037]

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[ert94464isback]

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[Monkeyboy92037]

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[Monkeyboy92037]

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[ert94464isback]

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[deividas56]

@ert94464isback When monkeyboy sperg's (because he has apsergers),someone dies.

[supermantahoo]

@yoshiroks777 sometimes I skip dialogue... I'm sorry... I don't know what the he'll your talking bout...

[supermantahoo]

@yoshiroks777 I'm barely in chapter 6... I'm pulling the second dragon needle...

[supermantahoo]

@hangetsuhozuki I'm sorry, what white ship incident? CANT YOU READ? I never played mother 2 dumbass...

[yoshiroks777]

@supermantahoo The White Ship is explained in Mother 3...

[nibelungvalesty]

I want a music sheet for this piece.

[supermantahoo]

@kawaiidesunekobcsk How do you expect ness to fit in with the storyline in anyway other than references and easter eggs?

[supermantahoo]

@kawaiidesunekobcsk big deal... Mother 3 took place 1000 years after earthbound... Ness died of old age by now... How do you expect him to exist in mother 3? Gigyas was finally defeated and porky time traveled, taking the machine with him...

[Invidente7]

@supermantahoo

No, its clearly stated that porky got the drop on him and killed him, thats why he has memoriblia of him and his adventures everywhere on his kingdom

[supermantahoo]

@Invidente7 i apologise... i know very little about earthbound... i havent played it yet...

I just know VERY small fragments of earthbound.... Is earthbound good? I dont usually like rpgs because I get stuck alot, and theyre so time consuming and difficult... But I love Mother 3, do you reccomend earthbound?

[HangetsuHozuki]

@Invidente7 "Clearly stated"? I believe the word you're looking for is "implied".

[HangetsuHozuki]

@supermantahoo Stop making stuff up. The White Ship incident could have been any number of years after the ending of MOTHER 2. Nowhere does it actually say that 1000 years have passed.

Porky's age doesn't count either, because that was a side-affect of overusing the Phase Distorter.

[supermantahoo]

@vivhero ness has black hair... Flint has brown hair... Ness isn't flint. @kawaiidesunekobcsk you moron... Your bitching and moaning about a game not having ness

[supermantahoo]

Mr. Passion: Listen to my music... Let the symphony guide you... Duster: I'm too badass to listen to your music... Mr. Passion: Such disgrace... DIE!!! *16 hit combo* Duster: Your music sucks... But I'll take free CDs if your giving any...

[ChronoPlayer64]

That actually made it's appearence in the final gba version!

[KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK]

This would have been the REAL Mother 3. Fuck the botched script they ended up having to make that omitted Ness from the storyline.

[skyrunner14]

@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK Keep in mind the 64 version wouldn't have had Ness in it either. If you're referring to that 5-second clip of a Ness look-a-like, it was confirmed in an interview that it was just a placeholder model used for testing purposes.

[KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK]

@skyrunner14 Then it's still fucking stupid that they would toss Ness' character and Pokey's motivation in a trash compactor.

[callumbuddy]

@skyrunner14 No that was beta Lucas

[vivhero]

@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK

Err, each character has a different protagonist, 1 had Ninten, 2 had Ness, 3 had Lucas.Kinda a rule of the series XD

[KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK]

@vivhero Where did I say Ness would have to be the Protagonist?

[vivhero]

@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK

Either way, Mother doesn't have an recurring characters, with the exception of a few such as Giygas and Pokey. And there are plenty of theories on Ness being Flint.

[KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK]

@vivhero That isn't outright confirmation, so shove your theories where the sun don't shine.

[vivhero]

@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK

I never said it as canon. Anyways, the game is out, its good, you can go play it if you want, I mean it came out for GBA years ago, and anyways, how would Ness even be there? I mean this is many years after Earthbound. And as they said, he isn't really in the game, its placeholder.

[vivhero]

@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK

Lets be honest though, this isn't really bad. Now if you want bad, Gamefreak integrated Mother's storyline into the Pokemon games.

[KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK]

@vivhero Is that another one of your "theories"?

[vivhero]

@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK

No, the newest Pokemon made tons of Mother references. In fact, it LITERALLY references the ending of Mother 3 as the events that took place before the game.

[vivhero]

@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK

And they aren't even my theories either, I was simply mentioning the Flint one.

[KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK]

@vivhero Whatever.

[vivhero]

@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK

You've got an attitude girl.

[WolfenNights]

Lucas should have been the one with PK Rockin'.

cus that's totally what he is doing in the screen shot.

[bakugoneman123]

This is epic. The game wouldave bean epic for YEARS after the gamecube. Hal. If you ever see this. MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT. It doesn't matter if the console is old! Look at some fans!

[epicofthewin]

I <3 this.

[Sonic5274]

This one sounds better.

[DTY16]

I like this version better; it gets straight to the point while the GBA one adds in extra. Plus its just better quality

[MaskOfInsane]

Hot DAMN. If this were the Pokemon random battle music, I doubt I'd do anything but run through tall grass.

[emmeg516]

ZOMG MEGA SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TURN YOUR COMPUTER OFF NOW!!!

i wish mother 3 was allowed in america :(

[purilyangelic777]

@emmeg516 Just get an emulator and download the rom. They translated it even!

[NewRedNinja]

@emmeg516 There's... a certain scene in the game and some mildly weird things preventing this from coming. That and Kumatora's sailor mouth.

[ridely700]

@NewRedNinja I know why

[NewRedNinja]

@ridely700 Oh. Never mind then.

[supersaninpikachu]

@NewRedNinja Kumatora swears?

[NewRedNinja]

@supersaninpikachu Yeah.

[Valiusification]

@emmeg516 What are you talking about? It's not illegal in America. You mean was localized to America? Yes.

[PKFreakz]

I am taking piano lessons to do MOTHER songs, just for that...?

[frankyagernull]

@zatchbellpokemon no his is actually judge judy's theme music wait mr passion is that ghost with the baton right?

[Davyjones1995]

@frankyagernull my goodness people

Mr. Passion(yes the ghost the baton) has a mixture of(in order):

This song (etude for ghost) which is based off of Saint-Saëns Piano Concerto No, 2

Beethovens 5th

Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 1

Motzart's 40th Symphony

The more you know!

[Afroassassainx]

@Davyjones1995 and knowing is half the battle!!!

sry had to make that reference.

[Davyjones1995]

@Afroassassainx thank you someone had to:)

[MajoraKing97]

I thought that was lord passions theme

[Samurairob]

freaking awesome

[somepartsareme]

Etude for Ghosts.

[OMgUserNameUsed]

This is the original Beethoven... Nice teaser but not a good bait.

[labelfree904]

artsy ghost theme

[MrThatDude3]

Etude for ghosts.

[conner623]

Lord Passion-y.......I'm terrible at making up names X(

[Lorenzo2300]

MY GOD, music sounds so much better in the n64 version. Makes me wish for more.

[omnismash123]

well the gba supported graphics but lacks in the music department

[RCT3Crashes100]

this sounds Lord-Passionish...

[dumbasspauldentonkin]

Just found out isn't the only Mother 64 song to be included in Mother 3.

In the chapter where you are chasing the garbage truck, I found that inserting 1 DP into the jukebox at the P Cafe puts on the Tatsumairi village song.

But putting more money in the jukebox will play two other songs. I have no idea what these are (heck, they're probably earlier or later in Mother 3 and I'm just being stupid :P), but there is a high chance that these were Mother 64 songs. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[AdmiralBobbery123]

one of the songs that DCMC does, King P's theme, i think, was going to be in mother 64.

[dumbasspauldentonkin]

I'll try and make a video response highlighting all the songs I mean.

at some point

[kalasad]

wow, this sounds very nice. (:

[flygonbreloom]

This is so much cleaner than the GBA editions music.

Proves how crap the GBA's PWM system was.

[Shadowtheninja101]

plus longer!

[krawky398]

Quite ironic this because a theme for ghosts, huh?

[nickadoo50]

no actully its a theme for lord passion so yeah

[2jk89sx]

Actually it's the artsy ghost battle.

Lord Passion is displeased.

:@

[hotrods4ben]

Where did you get this music from? The game was completely unreleased. o_0

[JillSandwich93]

A few songs from EarthBound 64 were released, and this was one of them.

[lishakara]

. . .

I want to hear someone play this on an organ. . .

[BlackDewn]

it sounds more like the theme before battling cynthia on pokemon diamond-pearl

[pokemonlulz]

yeah, that's because the Mother people also make Pokemon nowadays, it's just a different name... ??? = Game Freak

[KeijiKG]

Wrong, wrong wrong.

APE (one of the Mother devs) became Creatures and Tsunekazu Ishihara (one of the staff members of Mother 2) later ended up working under the Pokemon company.

Also Genius Sonority DID comprise of N64 Mother 3 developers.

Game Freak has been around since the days of the MSX and Famicom making games like Mendel Palace , Pulseman and Click Medic...the last one was a PlayStation title that came AFTER the first Pokemon game was released. They have nothing to do with Mother.

[pkthunder3]

hey, it does!

[KeijiKG]

Except this came first.

[NeotyKairyu2]

maybe someone decided HEY THIS IS GOOD FOR LAST BATTLE STUFF LETS RECYCLE THIS.

[saturnmason]

In my opinion, Mother 3 for the GBA was better. I still hope they find Earthbound 64 disks or something so we can see all of the proto stuff!

[KeijiKG]

There should be an EAD raid or something.

We need the finest cat burglar the world has to offer.

[saturnmason]

Sounds like a plan to me.

[poopoothewolf]

nice idea we do need this stuff

[jammerjaw]

I'm on it.

[dn92fma]

This is when fighting one of the ghosts in osohe castle, the one that comes out of paintings if Im not wrong.

[shadowtails24]

Mother 3 for wii!!!! i hope...... who aggrees?

[ZeroRoxas25]

hell yea, who doesn't agree.

:D

[Waluiginumberone]

I personally think that Mother is better left 2-D. (Please don't thumb this comment down, it's just my opinion).

[telepathicninten]

I agree, but a 3-D Mother would be pretty neat.

[Shadowmancer8]

They still used this song in the actual release, but in different fights.

[AzureSunflower]

This is... so epic. D:

THIS IS WHY THEY SHOULD'VE KEPT EB 64. >:C

[omgtsn]

I like how it's the battle theme for a ghost.

You know, because Earthbound 64 is dead.

[mford1996]

Ah. Earthbound 64 is still very alive..... The fans are what keep these games alive even if unreleased.

[BabyVegeta9000]

@omgtsn I see what you did there.

[Morbidcrab]

@omgtsn No It's Unborn Lol

[FreemanVonDon]

@omgtsn Omgtsn

[ShinyUmbreon1992]

Funny how a song that feels so complete like this one still gets a part added when translating the game to GBA. xD

[EmpoleMew]

Would it please you if I were to remove the added part? Personally, the slow part bugs me.

[ShinyUmbreon1992]

Sorry? I didn't understand everything you said. The added part isn't really slow, but, again, what did you mean?

[EmpoleMew]

The little bit after the first 14 seconds and the added part at the end. I have the video done already, actually. It'll be up either in a few hours or tomorrow.

[EmpoleMew]

Actually it's up now. Funny how my schedule changes like that.

[TaneeshaTheHutt]

Um? Thanks for the comment?

[Batandy]

When you fight Mr.Passion you can heard a piece of this song

[RicosTamales]

ETUDE FOR GHOSTS ... even better that the one on Mother 3

[UltiMario1337]

Too bad this song only plays once in the whole game. D=

[BahamutIsKing]

If this was the battle theme.......then OH MY PORK, it kinda sounds like the Final Fantasy 1 Interlude.

[luckykid7777]

Is it on SSBB? If so, how do unlock it?

[Loiamidude]

It isn't. Sorry.

[Yojobat]

Oh. My. umm... (if I don't have a god, what do say instead of OMG?) This music is so amazing (Never think I could play that well)

I never were able to get any Mother game... but the music I've heard so far is brilliant.

[CockapooIzAMutt]

ur an athiest?

[Yojobat]

Well... half yep half no

[elbow2teeth]

oh my pork

[Yojobat]

lol that's a good one

[VGKing]

Makes sense. The N64 version was supposed to be cowboy'd, and this sounds a lot like something you'd hear on one of those self-playing pianos.

[mudkipNDS]

Wow, such beautiful music. The sad thing is that since the mother series were top down games, theoretically, it must have been easier to translate their maps into 3D , such as with zelda, due to it being a topdown game as well. CASE IN POINT: Ocarina of Time.

[mudkipNDS]

In theory, Mario and Donkey Kong must have been harder to program because they were sidescrollers, and as such, the ideas and fundamentals would have to be changed. But look at how Nintendo handled those series in 3D. HINT: They were able to keep both series' (is that the plural form?) basics such as the platforming AND at the same time, put them into 3D. {PLUS they were bestsellers weren't they? ;) }

[mudkipNDS]

{dammit... net was out..} Anyways, like I was saying, the problem, as stated before by others, was that the HAL guys weren't very experienced in 3D programming as they were in 2D. Also, the "bestsellers" I listed before were designed for release on the N64 (except for Ocarina, I hear), but unfortunately M3 was originally designed for the illfated N64 Disk Drive (64DD), but the difference was that M3 made the transition to N64 too late, while Oot made it earlier. So in essence, M3 was ◊◊'d.

[KeijiKG]

The problem with that logic is that Mother's an RPG, not a platformer.

 Many JRPGs made the transition to 3D just fine. Dragon Quest (Mother's inspiration) for the most part survived its transition, being a VERY strong example. Though you are right, HAL did wrestle with 3D programming but also consider that it was also relatively new to work with at the time. There were more pioneers than veterans in 3D. It's very much possible to finish EB64 with today's workforce, just need the right team.

[PKFreakz]

@KeijiKG ...! The creators of Melee, Smash Bros. and Brawl would make a perfect mother 3D RPG

[NINgameTENmasterDO]

@PKFreakz  dont u mean HAL?

[PKFreakz]

@NINgameTENmasterDO yep kirby is from hal also

yays for him

[IyoGata]

@PKFreakz as far as i know, hal made most of the mother series.

[stars004]

really artistic

[ElusiveHermit]

dammit, the n64 condemned the mother series. Since the N64 was such a failure to develop for, the original mother 3 never came out, which probably would have been a big hit and yielded many more games for the series. sigh.

[MarkyVigoroth]

This song did appear in Mother 3; it plays when you battle the Artsy Ghost.

[MOUPIMOUPI]

Ghost shield too.

[SmashTaper]

This is beautifully done!

[PlayGamers]

I prefer this version than the Mother 3 one. Sure, this track deserved to be in Brawl... Really.

[gguru1]

It wasn't a boss battle tune at all, it's a battle theme associated with ghosts. This is supposed to be an etude, which means piano only.

[MOUPIMOUPI]

In the final version.

But this theme played during normal enemies, which means it wasn't for ghosts only on N64

[NeotyKairyu]

I need the sheet music...

[gguru1]

Unless you played the unfinished N64 version, there is no way for you to know that as far as I can tell.

[MOUPIMOUPI]

Well, Itoi uploaded this as the battle theme.

So it might have been a battle theme for more than ghosts.

[gguru1]

Itoi never said this was the only battle theme of MOTHER 3 64, and considering that the sound battle system that basically demands numerous battle themes to keep the challenge interesting there were probably more that one, though there is no way of knowing how many were actually carried over from n64 to gba.

I personally think that this theme was used in M3 for GBA close to its original context, from the screenshots, we can see that the Oshoe Castle sequence in gba was close to the n64 version.

[Kefka44]

or the Natural Killer cyborg theme

[Kefka44]

agreed

[NessStar3000]

Same here, it's a pretty good piano tune.

[MOUPIMOUPI]

So unique it is still in Mother 3, called "Etude for Ghosts".

This should have been in brawl