I remember this and was just talking about it yesterday to someone, frankly Dr Who needs a huge reworking as its now nothing more than a childrens program, regardless to those that hate change, the only constant in this world is change..so change is a coming! the british TV scene is a joke and hasn't improved since Tripods!!!
You are so right: Dr Who is just a stupid kids' show. There are no shocks, no thrills, and it isn't creepy anymore. It looks and feels amateurish, and the episode plots seem rushed and badly thought out. I agree that British TV is stuck in the past when it comes to sci-fi
I'm glad you agree, it put me out of joint so much that I started my own Dr Who short, which I attached the teaser to this post, well at least I think I have =)
@DavyTom71 so the older ones where never for kids eh, take a look at the ratings, PG, PG, PG, U, U, U, U, PG and so on. but i agree plots where better in the older series, but dr who was always cheesey.
The older series was a family show. It was never meant to be a show just for adults. Nor was it meant to be just for kids. It could be cheesy (but that was often the fault of the very low-budget and poor special effects) and not all the stories were great. But Dr Who in the 60s and 70s did have more better plots, more atmosphere and quite a few shocks. The latest Dr Who is a kids' show with pedestrian plots, no atmosphere, and no scares at all
@DavyTom71 I can't wait until SM leaves come back RTD all is forgiven, atleast he made the show a bit adult, with lots of death, SM doesn't believe in death he thinks it doesn't exist.
I have a bit of an issue with RTD's style. But under his stewardship, there were some great DW episodes. But under SM's control, the 2010 series was obsessed with trying to appeal to kids and teenage girls. And scares and shocks were replaced with dull 'emotional issues' or embarrassing attempts at comedy
@DavyTom71 Really? Did we watch the same series? I thought the 2010 serial was the most "Doctor Who like" series of Doctor Who since the relaunch with Matt Smith being the best of the new doctors by a mile.
That said "Vincent and the Doctor" may have contained one truly wonderful sequence but ultimately was terrible.
'Vincent and the Doctor' to me was the epitome of what is wrong with the new show - dull, had no tension or suspense, lacked a coherent plot and the resolution to the problem made no sense. And why has it become so obsessed with emotional issues? But the thing that bothers me most about DW is how smug it has become. Matt Smith could make a great Doctor but the poor scripts will let him down. The show's makers need to remember that it is a family show and not a kids' program
@DavyTom71 Interesting. To me, Vincent and the Doctor is the epitome of everything the Doctor stands for, and thus is one of my favorite episodes. In that episode we see the Doctor understanding that no matter what he does he cannot save Vincent or make his life easier, but he tries anyway. The best thing about the Doctor is that he genuinely cares and acts on that caring, and that is very clear in Vincent and the Doctor. He doesn't save the planet, but what he does do is far more profound.
if they got this far in the design, imagine how much other 'cool' stuff they must have hidden away somewhere, shame we will probs never see any of it!
I don't think the Amblin design would have infected the original (And best) design. It would have been cool to this (It would probably would have been in boring old CGI)in in action.
I think it demonstrates how lucky we were that Dr Who didn't get a full comeback in 1996. At that time it was in the hands of people who would not have handled the license tastefully. I could do without an X-Files/Sliders hybrid! We're lucky that Amblin and Spielberg didn't get their Spider Daleky claws into the series.
GREAT! first: where did you get this and secondly: Spider Daleks are cool and it would be great if the doctor who producers used them in one of their future series.
I sincerely hope this is a joke. Amblin and Doctor Who at a push I could cope with, but don't prat about with Daleks turning em into spiders.... Noooo!
so much scarier.
hcvang 1 year ago
I remember this and was just talking about it yesterday to someone, frankly Dr Who needs a huge reworking as its now nothing more than a childrens program, regardless to those that hate change, the only constant in this world is change..so change is a coming! the british TV scene is a joke and hasn't improved since Tripods!!!
Ucial 1 year ago
@Ucial
You are so right: Dr Who is just a stupid kids' show. There are no shocks, no thrills, and it isn't creepy anymore. It looks and feels amateurish, and the episode plots seem rushed and badly thought out. I agree that British TV is stuck in the past when it comes to sci-fi
DavyTom71 1 year ago
@DavyTom71
I'm glad you agree, it put me out of joint so much that I started my own Dr Who short, which I attached the teaser to this post, well at least I think I have =)
Ucial 1 year ago
@DavyTom71 so the older ones where never for kids eh, take a look at the ratings, PG, PG, PG, U, U, U, U, PG and so on. but i agree plots where better in the older series, but dr who was always cheesey.
Dinobot2468 1 year ago
@Dinobot2468
The older series was a family show. It was never meant to be a show just for adults. Nor was it meant to be just for kids. It could be cheesy (but that was often the fault of the very low-budget and poor special effects) and not all the stories were great. But Dr Who in the 60s and 70s did have more better plots, more atmosphere and quite a few shocks. The latest Dr Who is a kids' show with pedestrian plots, no atmosphere, and no scares at all
DavyTom71 1 year ago
@DavyTom71 SM has made Dr Who worse with his obsession with children, it degrades the show horribly.
badwolf66 1 year ago
@badwolf66
You are spot on, sir. You have managed to describe the problem with the new Dr Who series in just one sentence
DavyTom71 1 year ago
@DavyTom71 I can't wait until SM leaves come back RTD all is forgiven, atleast he made the show a bit adult, with lots of death, SM doesn't believe in death he thinks it doesn't exist.
badwolf66 1 year ago
@badwolf66
I have a bit of an issue with RTD's style. But under his stewardship, there were some great DW episodes. But under SM's control, the 2010 series was obsessed with trying to appeal to kids and teenage girls. And scares and shocks were replaced with dull 'emotional issues' or embarrassing attempts at comedy
DavyTom71 1 year ago
@DavyTom71 Really? Did we watch the same series? I thought the 2010 serial was the most "Doctor Who like" series of Doctor Who since the relaunch with Matt Smith being the best of the new doctors by a mile.
That said "Vincent and the Doctor" may have contained one truly wonderful sequence but ultimately was terrible.
BillyIsATwat23 11 months ago
@BillyIsATwat23
'Vincent and the Doctor' to me was the epitome of what is wrong with the new show - dull, had no tension or suspense, lacked a coherent plot and the resolution to the problem made no sense. And why has it become so obsessed with emotional issues? But the thing that bothers me most about DW is how smug it has become. Matt Smith could make a great Doctor but the poor scripts will let him down. The show's makers need to remember that it is a family show and not a kids' program
DavyTom71 11 months ago
@DavyTom71 Interesting. To me, Vincent and the Doctor is the epitome of everything the Doctor stands for, and thus is one of my favorite episodes. In that episode we see the Doctor understanding that no matter what he does he cannot save Vincent or make his life easier, but he tries anyway. The best thing about the Doctor is that he genuinely cares and acts on that caring, and that is very clear in Vincent and the Doctor. He doesn't save the planet, but what he does do is far more profound.
notablegoat 3 months ago
wasnt this spielberg@s dalek?
badwolfest83 2 years ago
guy below me is right
Gregorybot 3 years ago
if they got this far in the design, imagine how much other 'cool' stuff they must have hidden away somewhere, shame we will probs never see any of it!
evilproaxe 3 years ago 9
@evilproaxe like the dalek storm :D
Dinobot2468 1 year ago
Oooh,wow,that was some video.
All of 3 seconds!! Waste of time I thought!!
The spider dalek was good though.
theseus27 3 years ago
@theseus27 A waste of three seconds? That's hardly a significant loss.
JediSlayer22 1 year ago
I don't think the Amblin design would have infected the original (And best) design. It would have been cool to this (It would probably would have been in boring old CGI)in in action.
stewiegriffin1963 3 years ago
This clip was originally shown on the Ch4 video game show "Gamesmaster".
Concreteowl 4 years ago
What is Gamesmaster?
stewiegriffin1963 3 years ago
I think it demonstrates how lucky we were that Dr Who didn't get a full comeback in 1996. At that time it was in the hands of people who would not have handled the license tastefully. I could do without an X-Files/Sliders hybrid! We're lucky that Amblin and Spielberg didn't get their Spider Daleky claws into the series.
TubularMonkey 4 years ago 7
@TubularMonkey Yeah, because the piss-poor CBBC level writing we got from the Russel T Davies version was so much better...
E101ification 4 months ago
The spider daleks were orignially ment to feature in the TVM (Tv Movie) Before was all replaced with the story featuring the Master
dimitrijevic 5 years ago
they should bring paul mcgann back on TV!
bigdicksmithson 5 years ago
GREAT! first: where did you get this and secondly: Spider Daleks are cool and it would be great if the doctor who producers used them in one of their future series.
694377 5 years ago
I'm not a producer but I'm using them in my 3dmm Dr. who series
zelda3908 4 years ago
I sincerely hope this is a joke. Amblin and Doctor Who at a push I could cope with, but don't prat about with Daleks turning em into spiders.... Noooo!
gavpowers 5 years ago
Where did this come from and is that all there was of it? Crazy.
JonnyNeo 5 years ago