@findingusernamesucks exactly. It flows from dissonance and excitement, to something you do not expect and back into something that flows. Its not "completely" beautiful, but thus it keeps the excitement :)
@magiaofpiano no reason to bash, its not one of those "its not standard thus I bash it" like the stupid comments I read in regards of microtonal composers by those standard-only-lovers. Its just a comment, not even offensive. Keep the peace :)
His date of birth is uncertain. For this reason, we can't know exactly how old he was when he died. Wikipedia lists a date of December 2 1893, which means he would have been just over 108.
@FrankMazeppa I don`t understand,is this so important? Really, it`s quite funny to read comments like this. For what are you listening music? to check out the notes?
@magiaofpiano Maybe some people like looking at the notes. I feel like I appreciate music more if I can understand where the composer was coming from. But that's just me...
Brilliant! A colossal technical challenge. (13-lets, 8+ tone crashing chords, huge numbers of staves!) Ornstein writes in a way that is tonal, but you can never really pin down a tonic or dominant chord until the end. Emotional and ferocious. It truly is a shame that his work is not better known.
I can't believe I've only heard of this guy just today! His music is incredible, still being musical while being radical! A la Chinoise and this will be remembered to me as the first 2 pieces I've enjoyed from this composer.
I was thinking the same look like we've pinned another of Nobuo-san's many influences. Either way it's fantastic music and it has the added advantage of not being forever attached to a video game. Not that that's all bad for Uematsu but at the same time it takes something away and adds something too. Where as Ornstein is free of that uncertainty.
In my opinion a wonderfully poignant observation, parts of this song sound like Nobuo Uematsu or FF composition. Thank you for this wonderful music, Ornstein deserves much more recognition for these deeply fascinating and touching works.
I'm a relativist. To me, each style/gender/location of music has it's own merit.
But it's hard not to be radical about this sonata... It's wonderful. Harshly powerful and glorious; stunningly beautiful and bizarre; both solemn and funny.
I believe it's not aboout being happy or sad music. It expresses things beyond feelings.
A big "I'm sorry" to other music styles, but this IS superior music.
Hearing this makes me think of somebody running through an old Arab bazaar
elchacalito07 4 months ago
@findingusernamesucks exactly. It flows from dissonance and excitement, to something you do not expect and back into something that flows. Its not "completely" beautiful, but thus it keeps the excitement :)
ionas82 9 months ago
@magiaofpiano no reason to bash, its not one of those "its not standard thus I bash it" like the stupid comments I read in regards of microtonal composers by those standard-only-lovers. Its just a comment, not even offensive. Keep the peace :)
ionas82 9 months ago
I emailed Marthanne Verbit - she said the piano was in a high humidity room, so they probably just tuned it up rather than fighting the humidity.
radioplug14 10 months ago 3
is this moved a half step up?
evanch94 11 months ago
GOD I love this song.
ktm64 1 year ago
@ktm64 It's not a song. A song has words!
dogsbody49 1 year ago 2
this is such a neat piece! kinda the beginning kinda reminds me of one of the parts in the 3rd argentinian dance by ginastera....
evanch94 1 year ago
haha the first 4-5 bars are like Ravel.
y1g1tcn 2 years ago
Ornstein died at the ripe old age of 110 I believe (he was supercentenarian !). I love his music.
concertobub 2 years ago
Actually, he died at the ripe old age of 104. But thanks for spreading the information.
Don't mean to sound snooty, I just like to help people who have been misinformed. So have a good one.
Lukecash12 2 years ago
His date of birth is uncertain. For this reason, we can't know exactly how old he was when he died. Wikipedia lists a date of December 2 1893, which means he would have been just over 108.
HomelyCooking 2 years ago
peculiar, the piano seems to be tuned a half step above normal.
FrankMazeppa 2 years ago 9
@FrankMazeppa Musta accidently got his piano tuned on april fools.
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@FrankMazeppa I don`t understand,is this so important? Really, it`s quite funny to read comments like this. For what are you listening music? to check out the notes?
magiaofpiano 9 months ago
@magiaofpiano Maybe some people like looking at the notes. I feel like I appreciate music more if I can understand where the composer was coming from. But that's just me...
radioplug14 9 months ago 2
Excellent interpretation.
musicencyclopedia 2 years ago 2
at 0:50 he's not playing the left hand the way its written, but its still awesome
powerg8 3 years ago
what do you mean?
to my ears it's accurate, both dinamic and note-wise.
and does anyone has info about this performer? I've never heard about him/her, and this sonata is, imho, perfectly played.
luizmarcco 2 years ago
Beautiful............
5tgb6yhn5tgb 3 years ago
omg . . . how can something be so beautiful so weird so dissonant and flowing all at once!?
findingusernamesucks 3 years ago 7
It sounds a bit like Scriabin Sonata No. 5.
Angerboda18 3 years ago
What a coincidence to be reminded of Scriabin when you hear the 4th Sonata of Ornstein. I respect you.
musicencyclopedia 2 years ago
Yeah it does, the rhythmical segments do.
Kalen1457 2 years ago
This is so beautiful. Musical love-at-first-sight!
BoxOfFrogbit 3 years ago 2
this is our private treasure my friends... lets not tell anyone about this man !!!!
LackingLack0 3 years ago 20
Brilliant! A colossal technical challenge. (13-lets, 8+ tone crashing chords, huge numbers of staves!) Ornstein writes in a way that is tonal, but you can never really pin down a tonic or dominant chord until the end. Emotional and ferocious. It truly is a shame that his work is not better known.
comrademarxist 3 years ago 3
Lovely stuff; the 2nd movement especially beautiful. Why isn't this music pretty standard fare? Ornstein would enrich the piano repertoire so.
uranrising 3 years ago 2
Because it's wicked... : )
BoxOfFrogbit 2 years ago 2
I can't believe I've only heard of this guy just today! His music is incredible, still being musical while being radical! A la Chinoise and this will be remembered to me as the first 2 pieces I've enjoyed from this composer.
Do you know where I can find midis of his work?
ownage1810 3 years ago
I don't think I could even play this if it were a duet. This is nuts. 5 stars
weas89el 3 years ago 2
And curiously (or not?) this movmt. in special ressembles Final Fantasy music lol
edge42 3 years ago 3
I was thinking the same look like we've pinned another of Nobuo-san's many influences. Either way it's fantastic music and it has the added advantage of not being forever attached to a video game. Not that that's all bad for Uematsu but at the same time it takes something away and adds something too. Where as Ornstein is free of that uncertainty.
findingusernamesucks 3 years ago
In my opinion a wonderfully poignant observation, parts of this song sound like Nobuo Uematsu or FF composition. Thank you for this wonderful music, Ornstein deserves much more recognition for these deeply fascinating and touching works.
KeithWhalen11 2 years ago
Damn...
I'm a relativist. To me, each style/gender/location of music has it's own merit.
But it's hard not to be radical about this sonata... It's wonderful. Harshly powerful and glorious; stunningly beautiful and bizarre; both solemn and funny.
I believe it's not aboout being happy or sad music. It expresses things beyond feelings.
A big "I'm sorry" to other music styles, but this IS superior music.
Damn.
edge42 3 years ago 6