Ossetian Folk Song - Honga

[BermalGutian]

Ek olarak Azeriler Türk değil,Türkize olmuş İrani bir ırktır.

[BermalGutian]

Osetlerin İrani olduğunu yeni öğrendim.Zaten genetik olarak İranilere yakın çıkmışlar lakin kültürleri farklı.Komşularından kaynaklanıyor sanırım.Kürtler de Avrupalılar,Kafkasyalılar,Gürc­üler ve Yahudilerle akraba çıkmışlar.Wikipedia(İngilizce olanı)nın yalancısıyım.

[bbobo1]

this is a beautiful song translated into English text?

это красивая песня переведена на английский язык текста?

[IdelUralState]

Kardesim, kusura bakma ama ayni görüsde olmaya biliriz. Okudugum kadariyla Fars halklari Türklerden gelmislerdir.

[Bolatberjey]

@IdelUralState

fars halkları diye bir şey yok. fars halkı var. onlar da türklerden falan gelmemişlerdir, türklerle karışmışlardır. peki, türkler kimlerle karışmıştır? ;)

[IdelUralState]

@Bolatberjey

Türklerin ve Büyük Bozkirin Eski Tarihi'ni tavsiye ederim (Murad Adjiev)

[robheusd]

(continued)

Ossetic is among the remnants of the Scytho-Sarmatian dialect group which was once spoken across Central Asia. Other surviving languages closely related to Ossetic are Yaghnobi,[25] Pashto[25] and Pamiri languages,[25] all spoken more than 2,000 km to the east in Afghanistan and some parts of Tajikistan and northwestern Pakistan.

[rocktr36]

@robheusd

this is incorrect.skythians have nothing to do with alans.this is a wrong conclusion invented by some russian historians against the turkic people.skythians came in fact from altay and were related to huns.both had same origin in mongolia.during their captureof iran especial the northern part,some median tribes (parthians) had to connect themselves to skythians and were forced to north while other iranic people went into the area of mazandaran and the south.In fact alans were medes.

[rocktr36]

@rocktr36

furthermore there is an immense similarity of ossetians and some northwestern iranian tribes, especial the Deylem today Zazas who came at the same time from that area to eastern anatolia.linguistic and culutural the ossetians are more related to Zazas, pashtos and kurds.not so much with persians.they use the same colours (red,green,yellow).this is not case by persians.

[robheusd]

@rocktr36 Hi, interesting to know the history of caucasian people and lamguages. It's a real mixture of many different peoples and languages. Do you have any sources which i could read to know more about history and background of caucasian people and languages? I assume wikipedia is not the most trusthworthy source (but then, you could edit the aricle if you are sure it contains errors). Thanks,

[Bolatberjey]

@rocktr36 i bored off this pan-turkist propaganda shit!! scythians were an East-Iranian people, so Alans were... and Ossetians speak an East-Iranian language. please don't write those craps on my music video. PLEASE!

[rocktr36]

@Bolatberjey

kitap okuyormusun?tarihden anlasan böyle konusmasin.

[Bolatberjey]

@rocktr36 okumuyorum! okuma yazma bilmem ben! ama sanırım, bunun okuyup okumamakla, tarihten anlayıp anlamamkla değil, Türk olup olmamakla ilgisi var. şöyle söylesen daha doğru: Türk müsün? Türk olsan böyle konuşmazsın.

[rocktr36]

@Bolatberjey

tarihciler bunu söylüyor,özelikle avrupalilar.türk olmakla ne ilgisi var.eskitler yani skytler hunlardi.hunlar bile mogol olmadiklari bile vikipedi de okursun,ama yanlis bu.osetler yani alanlar sarmatlar dan geliyorlar,kuzey partiya imparatorlugu.eskitlerin tarihi ulan batorun bati tarafdan baslar ve avrupada biter.bakarsane eskitlerin kiyafetleri resmen mogolarindi ve atlara düsgünlerdi.1850 rus siyasetciler türk milletlere karsi bir politika basladilar,özelilkle kafkaslarda.

[Bolatberjey]

@rocktr36 hani göster bakalım, kim söylüyor? aç wikipedia'yı bak! türklerden başka kimse söylüyor muymuş... eskit diye bakarsan göremezsin ama. iskit diye bakman lazım. atlara düşkün tek millet moğollar mı dünyada... ne saçma bi mantık bu! kıyafetlerinin de alakası yok. 500 metreden bir moğolla bir iskiti ayırt edebilirim.

[Bolatberjey]

@rocktr36 . rus politikacılarla falan ilgisi yok. dünyadaki aklı başında bütün tarihçiler iskitlerin büyük ihtimalle bir doğu iran dili konuştuğunu, türklerle de kesinlikle bir alakalarının olmadığını bilir.

[rocktr36]

@Bolatberjey

tarihcilerin söyledikleri eskitler sarmatlarla bir olup olanlar.eskit ve hunlar avrupaya dogru giderken her yerden bir milleti kendi tararifina alirlar.zaten dünyadaki bütün tarihcilerin türklerin hakinda yanlis seyler anlatirlar.türkmenler ve özbekler türk degildir,azeriler türk degildir,karacaylar türk degildir,uygurlar türk degildir.eskitler ata düsgün,oklarla savasan bir milleti.göcebe olarak hareket ederler.tarihciler skytleri osetlerle birolarak görürleriran hipotezisi ordan.

[Bolatberjey]

@rocktr36 eskit diye bir şey yok. iskit... hunlar tarih sahnesine m.ö. 3. yy'da çıktı. iskitler ise, m.ö. 7. yy'dan beri karadeniz civarında yaşıyor. hunlarla iskitleri birbirine bağlarsan adama gülerler valla... doğru ve yanlış bilgileri birbirine karıştırıp bir şeyler söylüyorsun arkadaşım ama, ne anlatmaya çalıştığını anlamıyorum doğrusu.

[KTK401]

@Bolatberjey Just delete the posts and block them.

They are mentally ill!

[robheusd]

from wikipedia:

The Ossetic language belongs to the Northeastern Iranian branch of Indo-European language family.

Ossetic is divided into two main dialect groups: Ironian (os. - Ирон) in North and South Ossetia and Digorian (os. - Дыгурон) of western North Ossetia. There are some subdialects in those two: like Tualian, Alagirian, Ksanian, etc. Ironian dialect is the most widely spoken.

[Bolatberjey]

@rocktr36

iuw-duwwæ-ærtæ-sppar-fondz-akh­sas-aft-ast-faras-des

[rocktr36]

@Bolatberjey

thx last question

at 0:43 she says also a sentence with ''heyder'' i would like to know what this word mean.

this is the only word which sounds typic iranian.

[Farasht]

@rocktr36 Dear user, you have had misspelt(''heyder'') :

this word have to write "kæydær" = "someone's" (the meaning)

The letter "Ææ'" represents the most common vowel sound in the Osset.language(it's sound you hear in the song).

In ossetian : 5 - fonz, 7-avd, 8-asht, 9- fárasht (i.e. far asht - further than 8) , 10 - dæsh(or dæs), sar-head, masht - bitter, fad - foot, nom - name, arm(or song)-arm , art - fire, kard - knife, ars- spear, horz -good(the russian 'хорошо' comes from osset.)etc

[Farasht]

@rocktr36 (...continued) for more true pronunciation of the ossetian words you are to read them as german ones, i.e. for "far", e.g., you can't use english transcription [fa:r], but simply 'far';

(i.e. the vowel 'a' resembles as the first vowel in the word 'UNderstand')

[rocktr36]

aren`t there any words which are similar to each other?

[Bolatberjey]

@rocktr36

a lot of... as i know. "Khokh", for example. it means "mountain" in many Iranic languages, including Ossetian. but it's not enough to make understand each other. Persian & Ossetian are very different languages, deriving from same origin, a proto-Iranian language... and seperated for 3000 years. so, those are different languages.

[robheusd]

@Bolatberjey I was investigating this recently, and I was lead to believe that the Ossetans were are originally Turkic people living in central asia. But based on your info here, this isn't true, at least, that the language isn't a Turkic language stemming from the Altaic language familiy but derived from some proto-Iranian, also belonging to the Indo-European language familiy.

[rocktr36]

can a persian understand this?

or can ossetians understand a bit other iranic languages?

[Bolatberjey]

@rocktr36 NO!

[xSouthxKURDISTAN]

Death to Georgia

[padaeco]

Very nice but I think this is not Ossetian song.

[Bolatberjey]

@padaeco

realy? so, what do you think?

[padaeco]

@Bolatberjey When cherkesian people sang this song Ossetians people dominated in Iran. Osetian are Iranian peoples not Caucatian, Georgian, Armenian and Azerbaican also are not Caucatioan peoples.

[Bolatberjey]

@padaeco sorry for saying that, i don't like this behaviour but... you are really a stupid person. "when cherkesian people ssang this song..." when circassian people sang this song? where did you hear? circassians don't have a sing like this. not even a close one... it's pure Ossetian melody.

and Ossetians never been in Iran. where did you get this freak thinking? :)

[surlupo]

is it osetian language??

[brutallic100]

süper kardeşim böyle bir eseri paylaştığın için çok teşşekürler : )

[Bolatberjey]

@brutallic100

eyvallah :)

[rocktr36]

@Bolatberjey

türkceyi nerden biliyon ?

Osetleri dogu anadolulardan zor ayrimlarsin ayni millet sayilirlar.Osetlerde midyatlilardan kaynaklaniyorlar.

eskitlerle hic bir ilgisi yok.

[dynamicstarx]

zona sıma je zona mıno."

has anybody undrestood this?

[Bolatberjey]

@dynamicstarx something about "to know" ?

[SvedskiKuvar]

Личи на Српску музику. Similar to Serbian music.

[southpark123secret]

thnx

[JuusanKikan]

Absolutely beautiful. <3

Best wishes from America!

[Bolatberjey]

thank you bro! :)

[TurkoTartarian]

:) abi ben geldim sana takılmaya..

biraz rahatsız edeyim dedim de kanalına falan her yere yazı yazdım :D

[Bolatberjey]

yaz kardeşim, helalühoş olsun. :)

[TurkoTartarian]

abi şimdi senden yüz buldum ya sitenin duvarlarını tükenmezle karalarım ben :D

[lionpersia]

@Bolatberjey what the hell!

[Iuppiter11]

this is the country : Jasz-Nagykun_Szolnok country

watch?v=XT1CIE7cn_c

[Iuppiter11]

5*!

Long live the ossetian peolple!

Greetings from hungary.

In Hungary exist one country - have the name the alanians living now in Hungary. The name theis population is: jasz in hungarian. my grandfother and my grnadmother come from this zone. name Jaszapati

[Bolatberjey]

nice to hear something from you... hello to Jazsag people :)

[bbobo1]

@Iuppiter11

Hajrá Jászapáti!!  :))

[RuhshAlan]

@Iuppiter11 hei, brother!

[moganesian]

Our languages are distant relatives (Armenian and Ossetian). I tried to catch some common words - might have heard a couple.

[AlonsoArdjuna]

You can read Vasso Abaev's work "Armeno-Ossetica" and some other works of him about this topic

[LRQoD]

It's really a beautiful song... yet, not knowing the ossetian language I have no idea what it is about, which saddens me. Could you please translate it or summarise the song if it's not a problem?

[moganesian]

Good song! But, the melody sounds like many other north caucasian and georgian melodies. I'm looking for something very uniquely ossetian. Any recommendations?

[Bolatberjey]

are you serious?!? there is no music sounds like this, among the other north caucasians, specially georgians!

this is %100 pure ossetian uniquely.

recommendations: please listen it again. :)

[southpark123secret]

chechen?

[Bolatberjey]

chechens don't have this kind of music. swift samples are similar for ossetians & chechens. but it's not.

[AlonsoArdjuna]

for me the most Ossetian is Kubadi: watch?v=Na7e-n8Pv7M And, of course, original simd (without stupid modern variations)

[moganesian]

thank you, Kubadi was pretty good

[KATAFRAKT]

Thank you, Bolatberjey.

This musical video is among the very best in all of youtube videos.

Thank you very much for sharing it.

[hananokuni2580]

Perhaps the most beautiful song I've ever heard being accompanied by accordion.

[Bolatberjey]

i think the same thing. enjoy it. :)

[KATAFRAKT]

Five stars again, and again, and again...

[Bolatberjey]

thanks for your nice commnets. serbian musics are also brilliant. :)

[OSSETIANgorgoch]

bıre bujnıg:)de tserenbon bıre vent...

[KATAFRAKT]

This is the Voice of a Mother, of a Sister, of a Daughter...

This is the Voice of our MotherLand.

[KATAFRAKT]

Wonderful Voice, Alla Khadikova.

You're a Diamond.

CcCc

[KATAFRAKT]

I love Ossetian Songs.

Cheers fom Serbia.

CcCc

[albruce9131]

im from ossetia :D

[omglollmao123]

can someone tell me how similiar is Ossetian to Farsi or another persian language?

[valieand2004]

Ossetian language is a successor of North-Iranian language (currently exists only in Ossetia)

[mizzLebanese]

There is also Yaghnobi which is the only other existing Northeastern Iranic language :)

[BostonEm]

you are right. the point is yaghnobi is now skopen by few thousands. it's going to get extincted in a few years.

[mizzLebanese]

I really hope not, although it seems to be the case...but I'm still hopeful. I hope Eastern Iranic languages and it's speakers grow :)

[SchahZAZAhuseyn]

hey miss lubnan are you interested in Iranic ?

[papasmurfXXX]

omari and parachi are proposed to be north at too spoken in the pashtun waziristan

some linguists believe that >>

[mizzLebanese]

ossetian is an eastern iranic language closely related to pashto out of all modern iranic languages.

[southpark123secret]

and pamiri

[sweetossetiagirl]

♥♥♥♥da saran bont bira uat...

Iratta rasmae...♥♥♥♥

[Ridade1020]

Thanks brother for your information. By the way, it is really funny, my husband is iranian and doesn´t understand anything, whereas I as Kabardinian have the impression to understand at least some words :). Greetings to beautiful Ossetia/Irun! We want to hear and see more from you!

[Fravahar]

ridade, i am iranian, persian is one iranian language but there are hundreds of iranian languages, and we are talking about 4000 years,

[Ridade1020]

Thanks for your information, now I understand better!

[mizzLebanese]

well said.

[ZeightS]

Best wishes from Ossetians in Canada!

[Ridade1020]

the most beautiful female voice of north caucasus that I´ve ever heard. As diaspora circassian it´s the first time that I hear the ossetian language. I didn´t know that it sounds so close to our kabardinian, though it is an iranian language?!

[Bolatberjey]

thank you for your nice comment. if you liked that, check this out: "Ossetia - Xadikova Alla - Duua udi"

[Bolatberjey]

Many Kabarda people says same thing when they listened Ossetian first: Ossetian and Kabardian languages sound, very similar. It's normal. You know, they live together for long centuries. So, phonetic structure is similar for them, though, they are from different language families. They share even some words.

[Bolatberjey]

Also, Ossetian language have many words from native Caucasian languages and, Kabarda people have some Alanic bloods. Close borders, close culutre, close genetics... This is why those languages are similar so close.

[AbrekGirl]

"the most beautiful female voice of north caucasus that I´ve ever heard."

Agreed, a wonderful voice!

[1234javaad]

Beautiful song, from your Iranian brothers.

[popine2701]

COOL SONG!!!!!!

[str8diah]

Definetly sentimental sound . I used to listen Ossetian music because of my one Ossetian originated friend in here.

Greetings from Izmir / Turkiye

[Bolatberjey]

Respects & loves to Izmir. Güzel yorum için teşekkürler. ;)

[mgeluka]

respect from georgia!

[Bolatberjey]

thank you friend. salute to Georgia...

[che8ter]

Dae tsaran bon birae

[vainakhatila]

Very good ... thanks. )