people will always slaughter animals and the less people eat the meat of the aniamals the more meat that will go to waste in grocery stores. so granola boy. you may be trying to save the animals while realy more are dying in vain because of people like you.
alright so if we take away slaughter houses we can stop wars.... wrong. I can gaurantee wars will still take place in the world without slaughter houses. I never killed anything personally, and i may not ever but i do eat meat amazing isnt it. Although if we were all vegetarians overnight we would kill the planet eventually, overpopulation anyone? What do you suppose we do with all the beef cows, chickens, pigs, etc. that are not being killed for our consumption?
hi i have recently strted to become vegan and although you did say how are teeth were made to eat certain foods I was wondering if you have ever come across some kind of chewwy tofu or other kinds of vegimeat that was chewy because I things I miss most is eating something chewy and I don't mean like a carrot. Also ive never had eggplant is that chewwy? just looking for some chewy textures.
so your saying that's because I eat meat I'm immoral? well for one I get all my food from a free range and grass fed animals (you can't get healthy off an un-healthy animal) and if there wasn't a convenient supplier I'd go catch my food myself like humans have been doing for last 20000+ years. And right I also on morals, I assume you grow your own vegetation or buy organic produce? because most commercial grain and vegetation are covered in toxic pesticides which kill pests (living organisms)
Nothing intrinsically wrong with eating meat at all. However, the meat industry and mass-farming is nothing short of evil and should be shunned and boycotted.
i always hated eating meat, but its convenient, but YOU HAVE CONVERTED ME :) i agree, eating meat is not natural, thanks for reminding me i never really thought of it. what do you think about pescatarianism? (where the only meat you eat is fish/seafood) because thats what i basically am.
it instead of using it as a personal commodity. Just because you have the power to do something doesnt justify doing it, especially abusing it. I dont understnad if there is a compassionate route why we cant take it, and why would anyone want to defend against it?
This whole "survival if the fittest" is horribly out dated. Plus anyone who uses that sentence in an argument without even knowing the meaning behind it, or lack reading any of darwins work has no room to quote. Ie: hitler. What about darwins the expression of emotions in man and animals. the selfish gene, anything from johnathan balcome, E.O. Wilson or Peter singer? All works that show how similar we are, and that our evolutionary development of reason and altruism should be used to preserv
Physical: flat feet, exposed anatomy, long pregnancy, night time sleeping habits, well developed facial muscles, jaws built for teeth to slide past each other (ie:grind) hole in oral cavity allows us to create a vacuum (ie suck not lap) narrow esophagus, caecum size, stomach designed for batch feeding, long sm intestine, digestive enzymes (amylase) to name a few
So I watched the documentary 'Earthlings' last week and thought long and hard about it. I decided to cut down my meat consumption drastically, but a few nights later we had steak. Half way through eating it, I stopped and thought about the documentary and how exactly the meat got to my plate. Needless to say I felt physically ill and didn't finish my meal. I'm now vegetarian and absolutely loving it. Though some people can be so narrow minded.
Killing is not "wrong". Its called survival of the fittest. As long as the animal has a good life and does not suffer it is natural to consume it. Ancestors have done it for years. Plus i would rather not eat the incredibly unhealthy grains that most vegetarians eat.
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our incisors and canines ( teeth ) are meant for eating meat. and you sound like you think that everything you say is the right thing and how dare you think otherwise
@Tristanisms Actually, the ingredients in our saliva and the way our digestive track is is designed for eating plants. Meat can sit in and rot in a humans digestive track for years. And it has been proven that meat can cause many diseases.
I agree with everything you say. It's better for the people, the animals and the world in general if you're a vegetarian. I get really happ when people say that they are vegetarian.
Sadly I'm not one, because I truly love meat of almost every kind. I do try to eat as much vegetables and fruits as possible, mostly because I really like it, but I'll probably never be a vegetarian.
@thekingcheetah123 dude. AGAIN. HUMANS. ARENT. OMNIVORES. OUR. BODIES. ARENT. BUILT. TO. PROCESS MEAT. our bodies ADAPTED to eating meat. You arent a real cheetah to say "being an omnivore is no fucking excuse" because you arent one. you were born to meat, you grew up with it. biologically, YOU DONT NEED IT. Humans were never built to consume meat. We were hebivores who had to eat meat to be able to survive during ancient times because veggie nutrition wasnt available to all parts of the world.
This is sad, People give it up. I'm a omnivore and I think that this whole vegetarian meat eater thing is stupid. BenLoka, good for you for eating vegetables. Congratz to dudes who eat meat. Just stop this, some people need to eat meat to lower some carbon shit in the air or something and vegetarians are... uh... saving 100 animals a year O.o They are bolth significant reasons to SHUT UP AND THINK ABOUT SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT.
@thekingcheetah123 LOL. Im not calling America stupid. Did you NOT see that I said "america has brilliant minds" America isn't dumb. The people who went to college at least, who got a degree and who decided to travel the world. I know a LOT of Americans. I go to an American school. Everyone I know almost is American. They're smart people. Let THEM do the talking please. and DONT TRY to get off on that. thats like the UN saying "well Unicef is not much better than us. they arent helping at all."
@Chibi9TailedFox Its not a fucking excuse for you to do it too you know. to be that cruel to animals just because china and india are worse.. ugh. my god. the logic of your thoughts just proves that this world will never see a change because everyone will ALWAYS use that excuse. "well they are doing worse. attack them, not us." Everyone is the problem. For a change to happen, everyone must participate, not come up with pathetic excuses to blame others.
Meat eating. Simply. Isnt. Necessary for. ANYTHING. If ANYTHING it will LOWER the amount of energy needed to run the goddamn factories that make meet available to the world. You guys are amazingly uneducated. And if you did go to school and get education, then please, point me to your sources of information, cuz I'd like to throw it all in the water with all the research and documentaries and scientific PhD doctoral statements I have been present at to hear with my own ears.
nearly EVERT comment on this video is unsupported idiosicm with no facts to back it up. You guys need to get your head out of your ass and back into a classroom. 45% of America cant point to its own country and it finds a right to comment on high level stuff like global warming. America has brilliant people, so please let them talk. You guys commenting only make America sound stupid, and you're wondering why the rest of the world laughs.
@thekingcheetah123 -last contd- and NO. We weren't built to eat meat. We adapted to eating meat. Scientifically, we are a herbivore race that has adapted to eating meat for survival purposes. We DO NOT need it. From Hinduism to Christianity "bread and wine". To science where meat is potentially dangerous, and where soy provides ALL the necessary proteins and all that shit you people use for an excuse to eat meat.So check your facts before posting.
@thekingcheetah123 "well there's 7 billion of them. Who cares? theres more of em than us." Yeah I dont think you'd take too kindly in being born, raised, and forced to give birth, then be lead off to get your body parts chopped off, while hundreds of other women/men stare at you. Grow a fucking heart.
@thekingcheetah123 contd. - And oh for your "so logical" brain, here's another little factoid. The only reason there are so many chickens is because we fucking force them to be. because we inseminate them, because we keep them in pent up factories, because the only life they know is birth, giving birth/being taken sperm from. and eventual death. Its fucking cruel and disgusting. And imagine an alien race that colonized us said that about you. -contd-
@thekingcheetah123 You absofuckinglutely cannot compare yourself to a goddamn lion. Lets take this to a scientific stand point and prove that lions have smaller intestines than humans which allows for the excesses and impurities of meat to be released on time, whereas in humans the meat is processed three times longer. A liion's jaw consists of teeth built to rip things apart. As you may have noticed, we dont have the same teeth set. - contd.
@thekingcheetah123 Sorry i'm not being rude but i didn't understand what you said at the end? what I think is that when i eat meat i feel bad and disgusting and maybe that is why there are vegetareants in the wold some people are fine with it and eating animals doesn't bother them but i'm really sensetive and i love animals, it feels wrong. I have a great body to! not to thin or anything. Just to me it feels wrong and i guess i'm trying to make people understand how i feel!
And if you had the chocie to eat a dead animal or not i think i would chose the less bloody one. It also makes me feel better i'm not sure about you but when i eat and apple or somthing jucy not int he bloody sence i feel happier when i used to eat beef and salty meats
They put dead animals bits in harribows, if you think abotu what you're eating it's actually reather offputting.
4:04 yes I do,it was the last time I saw a cousin of mine a month ago and she was real fat, however I can't saw she properly substitutes meat and seems to me more like someone who lives without meat than a vegetarian
Alright, Now guys. Its not just eating meat. Its the WAY we eat meat. We slaughter animals who are awake. Slit their throughs, and not only does this affect the animals, but this is the MAIN reason for global warming, generating more greenhouse-gas emissions than all the cars, trucks, planes, boats &trains in the world COMBINED. I know peda shows only the bad things, but really there isnt much good in processed meat. And this stuff DOES happen. Even if your not vegi, you should still KNOW.
your not a lion dipstick, and just because it is natural does not mean it is good. disease and death are natural but im sure you wish to avoid those perfectly natural things eh?
Karma: People who have little pitty on sick/crippled because they believe they earned their illness. Canine teeth? We have them. (we are omnivores) Slaughter houses? (BAD..agreed, but people come before animals) Vegitarians often place animals over humans (evil view violent comments often made by Vegitarians/PETA) Health: Vegitarians often look weak, lack good energy and die of cancer too (Jackie O +Linda McCartney) Suffering: Sad but life. Too mny ppl to feed & not enough land to raise veggies.
Because they try and force their whacked out liberal agenda/belief system on others instead of just shutting the fuck up and letting others do what they want.
uhm...the teeth thing that says that "eating meat isnt natural" it's because the man itself is an omnivore...that's why he doesen't have the teeth so sharp...
and i'm proud to say i've been a vegetarian for 5 and a half years =)
i'd also like to point out that in a comment below mine from @ElectroSapper it says "YOU must be a idiot" CLEARLY YOU ARE ANNNNNNN IDIOT IF YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY AN IDIOT PROPERLY ! IT'S NOT A IDIOT ! IT STARTS WITH A VOWEL HAHAHA ! eating too much meat i see .
Alot of your arguments are subjective when you claim them to be fact, also alot of your core beliefs about the human body are false. However, vegatarianism has many good points to it you don't address. So don't talk about other people's ignorance.
thank you for making this video. thank u really its so hard trying to tell people. we all need to do what we can to educate others. So many people are blind to what goes on. Blind to karma, blind to the laws of the universal law, blind to the reality that the world could be so beautiful.
Narcissistic vegetarians at their finest. Hiding behind a facade of ethics to blind their true vain selves. they seek attention by trying to make a scene and be so different from everyone else. Personally, i think we should just eat vegetarians, It's actually physically, ethically and environmentally better if we do.
@switchbladesaint16 . Ignorant, apathetic fucker at his best. Using bogus logic, pseudo philosophy and reason in an attempt to hide his apathy. They just don't get that a pig, cow, and sheep feel, love and are just as intelligent as the dog, cat or horse. Personally i think, people who are apathetic should shut the fuck up - we get you're apathetic, it's okay - just don't try to belittle others belief systems.
0/10. Sucks because you tried so hard to be snarky and failed miserably. Chin up though, you may get some pity from other brainwashed drones soon enough :)
@switchbladesaint16 Eating non-human animals and eating humans are more or less the same thing. It's just that one of them is legal.
And as for your comment about how vegetarianism is simply a way to be different - it's not. How would you know? I talk about my vegetarianism if it's relevent, otherwise it's not important. How am I attention seeking if I rarely talk about it?
It's clear that there exist animal abuse and inhumane killings which need to be minimized. But to advocate vegetarianism for everyone and abandon meat consumption entirely is asinine.
What about the millions of people starving? or the people employed in the industry and their families? or indigenous people (located in tundras for instance) whose main food source is meat? What will happen to all the cuisines (which is a large component of a nation's culture, history, and tradition) in the world?
I'm sorry but i really can't stop eating meat :[ I mean i can but i don't want to, i can't live with out chicken breast & rice woooo boy is that good, well at least how my mami makes it, i can stop eating McDonald's & fast food, i know they aren't good at all but chicken breast, my favorite meat & i just can't, i eat it errrday, never get tired of it :] Anywho,......................... He seems cool.
If ur worried whats in ur meat, dont worry, Thats why theres something called cooking the meat. People have been even more clever in founding an organization called the FDA! Who knew?
you are a fucking moron. "You are basically eating fear" shut the hell up, the human race would have died off by now if that were true, we evolved to become omnivorous, why the hell would we get depressed and angry simply because of our nature? Also, how could vegetarianism improve your sense of well-being, on't tell me that vegetables make you feel happy because they were happy when the died. You fucking mron, your canine teeth are sharp, your incisors are thin like a blade.
@yeaitwasme Ingesting fear wouldn't make someone die, you idiot. When I turned vegetarian four years ago, I felt so different just within a week. A felt happier and healthier. I had more energy and I felt better emotionally, knowing that I was leading a more compassionate life.
A lot of people go against "nature". Do you wear sun screen? People have adapted to their environments.
@yeaitwasme (Continued) If you lived in Africa, your skin would be darker and a lot less vulnerable to burning than if you lived in England, where the climate is much colder. By your logic, if I went to Africa, I wouldn't be allowed to protect my skin. I would have to INCREASE THE RISK OF CANCER because sun screen "goes against nature". Meat increases the risk of cancer. To me, it doesn't make sense to carry on eating it when it could prove to be lethal one day.
@MCRdynamite True, skinresiliance may change from place to place, but the essential needs of a human do not. It is clear that no matter where you are, every normal huan on this planet has the body of an omnivore. There is no denying it.
@yeaitwasme My point, that you seemed to have missed, is that "it's unnatural not to eat meat" is not a valid point, as we do MANY "unnatural" things that either make us healthier or protect us from harm. Vegetarianism/veganism can do both of those.
Vegetarians and vegans can survive. They're generally happier and healthier than meat eaters and have longer lifespans. Humans CAN eat meat, but they don't HAVE to. It's actually physically, ethically and environmentally better if they don't.
@MCRdynamite Vegetarian diet is not physically or enviromentally better. Growing crops for example, requires the use of alot of pesticides and fertilizer. If this gets into water supply, then it will pollute the water and cause damage to anyone who drinks it. Also toxic emmisons are released by burning agricultural waste.
Vegetarians don't get enough Calcium, B12, Vitamin D or Iron supplements in their diet. This means they become prone to becoming anemic. Plus many other health problems.
@chaosproduction If these health problems are so rife, why are vegetarians and vegans living longer and healthier lives? Calcium, iron and vitamin D are easily obtained naturally, and many foods are fortified with B12. Meat eaters are unhealthier in general, and more vitamin deficient, mainly because vegetables are far more nutritious than meat is, and veggies by default eat more of this.
@CompassionateChap Vegetarians living longer all depends. It is of course going to vary between the lot of them, and depends what else they do to stay healthy, since diet is not enough. Some might live longer, some might not. You can never be 100% positive that this is a true statment.
These health problems aren't live threating either, but still damaging. And I wouldn't say they live healthier, as research as shown. Well balanced omnivore diet tends to give you what you need and be better.
@chaosproduction There is no evidence to suggest that even eating meat in tiny amounts, is helpful. Its a food group that humans have been conditioned to, and cook and enjoy, but don't for one second believe its more beneficial than fruit and veg.
@CompassionateChap I never said helpful. Just not harmful. But it would lower your risk of causing the damage vegetarians have to their health due to lack of needed supplements. And when I said well balanced omnivore diet, you do realise balanced means just as much vegetables as meat?
These supplements are in short supply for vegetarians. Esepcially vegans who can't have dairy.
I world hardly call them myths, anything that is against your points is now a myth? Sour grapes again.
@chaosproduction Vegetarians are the ones with health problems - they are usually far healthier, suffer from cancer, heart disease, osteoperosis, obesity and other illnesses far less. A vegetarian diet, or at least a "well balanced" one (i know you like that phrase), is full of all the nutrition a human needs. Hence why the live longer and healthier lives.
This is why i call them myths. Most people (nutritionists included) accept a meat free diet is healthy, so why argue?
@CompassionateChap These problems you mention that are cause by meat eating, only occur if meat is eating in large amounts e.g. eating red meat for about 3 meals every day. You will have problems.
As I already explained, with such statistics as vegetarians living longer lives, you can never be 100% certain of that can you? It's going to vary, diet alone won't make a person healthier, or live longer. Some might live longer some might not. I have already mentioned that. This is just De Ja Vu now.
@chaosproduction These problems occur on an average meat eater. People who eat red meat 3 meals a day would suffer even more. Eating meat daily is unhealthy, if people want to take it seriously - they should have at most 3 meat based meals a WEEK. Meat contains cholesterol, which humans don't need as we produce it. This is linked to cancer and heart disease. Planet protein reduces cholesterol.
@chaosproduction If you also take an example of two groups of similar people - seventh day adventists and mormons, the former doesn't drink/smoke or eat meat, the latter doesn't drink or smoke but eats meat. The Seventh Day Adventists lead longer and healthier lives, and their diet plays a big role in this, thanks to it being meat free.
@CompassionateChap I'm afraid you are over reacting again. One meal of meat a day is not going to cause problems. Eating meat is moderation is what is required, but one meal with meat a day is not to much. This is just an assumption, but by any chance do you get your information of vegetarian websites? Because the always over exaggerate there points, even lie sometimes. So those aren't exactly a good source of information.
@CompassionateChap (Second reply) Again, diet alone is not enough for good health. I have been through this many times. For example, if I was to sit about, do nothing all day, and eat vegetarian meals. Would I be healthier than a meat eater who eats about one meal with meat a day about 5 days a week (no over exaggerations on moderation) and exercises every day? No I would not. Longer life aswell, cannot be 100% positive.
@chaosproduction No, but a person who exercises and eats a vegetarian diet, has a better chance than a meat eater who eats meat once a day but also exercises. Diet is INCREDIBLY important and should not be underestimated.
@CompassionateChap Healthier in some ways perhaps. There is still the limit of supplements a vegetarian can get in there diet. But the meat eater would not be unhealthy.
@chaosproduction Nonsense - a vegetarian diet is rich in nutrients, as by default you will eat more plant based food. Sure if all you ate was chips and pasta, then you would have deficiencys....but if you only ate chips, pasta and meat you would still have deficiencys. A well balanced vegetarian diet ticks all the boxes nutritionally.
@CompassionateChap Well not really. Like mentioned. you are in low supply of Vitiman D (found in Dairy, Fish, eggs etc.), B12 (Beef, Lamb, Eggs, Seafood) and have low intakes of Iron.
Also very low supply of Omega 3 fatty acids, most commonly found in Meat, eggs and other sea foods like fish.
These supplements can prevent and lower the chances of many health problems like atherosclerosis (prevented by Omega 3 acids), high triglyceride levels and even can help with personality orders.
@chaosproduction Obviously you are focusing on a strict vegan diet, rather than a vegetarian diet. Vitamin D is quite comfortably sourced from sunlight though. Omega 3,6,9 can be sourced from nuts and seeds. B12 from seaweed, and organic veg from b12 rich soil, as well as alll of these nutrients from fortified foods and cereals.
Vegans have shown to have lower levels of vitamin D for example, but not deficient in it. Having more doesn't mean better either necessarily.
@CompassionateChap Yes, vegans will get it the worst. As they can't have dairy. But, you would have to eat alot more dairy products and an awful lot of seeds to make up for it. And by the sounds of it, you aren't to keen on dairy.
You can, of course, find these supplements in other foods, but in little amounts and barely enough. You would have to eat alot of seaweed and seeds etc. to make up for the loss.
@chaosproduction They don't get it "worse", they just have lower levels - they are deficient. Its a bit like saying having low blood pressure isn't as good as high blood pressure! Their vitamin D levels were perfectly acceptable.
I'm not keen on dairy - and i am very healthy. I've never felt healthier since i turned vegetarian and cut out most dairy. I've not had a cold or any illness in over 2 years. Before i ate meat at least once a day, and was getting ill a few times a year.
@CompassionateChap Yes, and because of these lower levels they have a larger risk of having these health problems. Less intake of these important supplements, more risk.
This is why a well balanced omnivore diet is considered the best and healthiest. Due to no limits of what food you can eat. You get the right intakes of each required supplements. Vegetarians, vegans alike, are in short supply, and will have to eat alot of foods with these supplements to make up for it.
@chaosproduction This is nonsense. If you are not "deficient" in these areas this is not going to affect your health, as the case of vegans. Just because a meat eater might get one or two nutrients in far higher doses, doesn't mean they are at less risk. Meat eaters of course get far more animal protein - the higher intake of animal protein, and cholesterol, the higher the risk of cancer, heart disease, osteoperosis. Sometimes "less is more". Vegans are usually very healthy.
@CompassionateChap Of course it will affect your health. In the case of animal protein, eating it in high intakes will cause problems. Eating it sensibly and in moderation won't be a problem. Your problem is over reacting to things, I feel like this is just De Ja Vu now.
Sometimes less is more, in this case it isn't. Vegans do have health benefits over meat eaters, but not in the slightest does it mean they are healthier overall. Back to the well balanced omnivore diet research.
@chaosproduction Vegans do tend to live longer than meat eaters, so it suggests perhaps their diet isn't so bad after all.....I think a well balanced vegetarian or vegan diet is extremely beneficial.
@CompassionateChap I have recently learned of a study to show the possible reasons some vegetarians may live longer. It is not necessarily their diet that makes them live longer.
Researchers at the European Institute for Food and Nutritional Science have said someone changing to a vegetarian diet would be concerned of their health, thinking that this diet is healthier. Been concerned of their health, they would not drink, smoke and do more excercises, increasing mortality, not because of diet.
@chaosproduction Some vegetarians opt for this diet because its healthier - but that in itself says a lot surely! (that it IS healthier!).
On another study of groups of people....mormons eat meat, but don't drink....seventh day adventists don't drink and don't eat meat, the seventh day adventists live longer on average.
@CompassionateChap No it is not healthier, like I already said. It has health benefits over meat eaters, but not the healthiest diet overall. Due to low supplies of important supplements that cause health problems when intakes aren't enough. This would mean vegetarians would have to eat alot more than normal to make up for their losses if they want to get the right amount. But really a well balanced omnivore diet is healthiest. People just think it is because they think it is vegetables etc.
@chaosproduction There is nothing missing from a vegetarian diet, stop blowing myths and meat industry propoganda out of proportion. You're making weak excuses. Since i became a vegetarian, the health benefits have been noticeable - there was nothing from eating the flesh of a dead chicken that I needed in my diet.
@CompassionateChap Yes of course. All myths. Is it just because it goes against all you argued about? No. These aren't myths. They are facts from studies and research.
They are believed to lead longer lives is what I said. You can never be positive about a group of people living longer lives, you can only really give them a life expectancy. Which, of course, is only 'expectancy'. Diet is not enough to make you ''live longer'', just provides a few health benefits, and health problems as well.
@CompassionateChap (Part 2 of my reply) The seven day Adventists are thought to have a longer life expectancy by a few years than mormons.
They of course, are more concerned about health. So they don’t smoke, drink, exercise regulary and eat a small portion of nuts up to 5 times a week. All of this combined increases life expectancy slightly. But diet alone will not be enough, without more work on health; a vegetarian diet would not increase your life expectancy. And remember this is EXPECTANCY
@chaosproduction I think you missed the point about the mormons and adventists. They lead similar lives, including not drinking, smoking etc.....but the adventists don't have meat in their diet. They live longer lives as you say.
Sure, there are other factors which increase life expectancy, but if diet is altered it can make a big difference, and on top of that you're saving money, animals and the environment. Its a win win, except for the meat industry.
@CompassionateChap (2nd Reply) Saving animals? We have already talked about it. You aren’t saving anything, just lowering how many animals are born and bred. There is a big difference to saving animals that are actually alive, to saving animals that don’t exist or ever will exist. That is done in vein.
As for the environment, you have yet to realise the damage done through crop growth and harvesting. Remember the pesticides? Fertillizer? Water usage and pollution? Waste burning? Heavy machiney?
@chaosproduction Don't be so stupid - its far better to not force breed animals, incarcerate them and slaughter them in their youth. I'm doing them a massive favour by not contributing to this, therefore it is saving animals from this terrible existences. Also, by lowering livestock, its lowering pollution.
Crop growth and harvesting will be done regardless - we need to eat vegetation. Plus a huge quantity of food produced goes to feed livestock, so once again you're on a losing argument.
@CompassionateChap What you appear to be doing is thinking that you will save animals by becoming vegetarian. When all you are doing is lowering how many are born, then you try to comfort yourself by telling yourself you have prevented them from been used for meat. You aren't saving anything in existance.
Lowering pollution by a small amount, there is still the enviromental damage and pollution from crop harvest.
@CompassionateChap (part 2) Huge quantity of harvest goes to livestock? Yes, for one crop, corn. One crop out of so many others grown where the majority goes towards livestock. Don’t act as if the majority of the overall crops grown. The only crop I can think of that goes towards meat livestock is a small amount of wheat. I’m hardly losing an argument when I am arguing against false facts.
@chaosproduction Ok, you are completely repeating yourself over and over. If you think that its good for animals welfare to force breed them in captivity, fatten them up and slaughter them for a quick meal - then your mind is warped.
Why don't you look closely into research into just how much fodder is used for animal feed, and the massive implications on the environment. 635 million tons a year doesn't sound like a small amount, and its not just wheat you imbecile. Open your eyes.
@CompassionateChap I am repeating my self because I have to. Did I say it was good? No. I said you aren't saving existent animals. Really big difference there. Don't change my words
I have done my research. Out of the major crops grown in the US (corn, soybeans, hay, wheat, cotten, sorghum, rice) corn only covers about 70 million acres out of about 200 million acres. It's alot, but far, far from the most. As you can see the majority of crops do not go to livestock. I don't need to open my eyes.
@chaosproduction I am fully aware that I'm not saving "existent" animals, but by reducing demand, you are not putting an animal through a crappy existence - if you can't see this, then you are a moron. Just as i avoid using products tested on animals, this is helping reduce these vile acts. stop living in ignorance.
I don't think any research ever done, has said that vegetarian farming wouldn't be more efficient - why would you debate against it? Its complete stupidity and a waste of time.
@CompassionateChap So a non-existant life is more important than a life the already exists? Don't you see how pointless it is to put all your effort into saving non-existant animals? Why don't you put this effort into changing the way the minority of slaughterhouses treat animals? Take in mind, it is only the minority of slaughter houses that treat animals is awful condition, there are now laws against it. There are just as many, if not more meat organisations that treat animals humanely.
@chaosproduction Unfortunately - whilst slaughter continues to animals, cruelty will never disappear altogether. It would actually be far better to promote the benefits of vegetarianism so that people reduce their meat consumption and therefore less animals bred.
@CompassionateChap Again, reducing animals that are born will not change the way they are treat in the minority of factories. If you are against it, why not focus more on changing the way they are treat using a much more effective method than diet change.
Although crop harvest is not AS harmful, I am not aware of any benefits to the enviroment. It is still a big problem for enviromental damage.
@CompassionateChap (part 2) I’m not at all debating against crop harvesting. I am simply letting you know the damage it does to the environment, as you seem to give the impression that vegetarianism is perfect in every way. I am just pointing out your wrongs.
Vegetarianism causes the same problems as meat production in different ways, both health and environment.
@chaosproduction Yes, i know that crop harvesting is not perfect, but we know for absolute fact and certainty, that if we eliminated meat production, the environment would improve as there would be less CO2 emissions, methane, less water waste and pollution and we would have far more land available.
To say "vegetarianism cause the same as meat production" is hugely naive, as there is mountains of studies and evidence displaying its economic and environmental positive impacts.
@CompassionateChap (Part 2) Growing crops uses enough water as it is, but add to that the rivers and streams that are polluted by the use of fertilizer and pesticides. About 3 million cases of pesticide poisoning occur annually, causing up to and over 200,000 deaths. It can cause degradation to land like desertification, soil erosion, mineral depletion and even chemical degradation. Don’t fight against environmental damage; you have problems with it at your end.
@chaosproduction You really must be joking, as all the evidence points to animal agriculture as the most unsustainable and biggest pollutant in farming. You're so ignorant and burying your head in the sand. You don't realise that eating vegetables is absolutely essential to consume, where as meat isn't. You can produce far more food per square metre from a plant based diet compared with animal farming. Stop being so stupid now, and arguing for arguments sake. You can't win.
@CompassionateChap (Part 3) It’s ironic really. Vegetarians fight against meat because of higher methane and CO2 emissions. But it’s a fact that vegetarians produce more gas than meat-eaters. Due to the bodies inability to fully digest the complex carbohydrates in the vegetarian diet, this results in higher production of gases like hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane. Not to mention the poisonous emissions from agricultural waste burning and nitrogen fertilizer.
@chaosproduction There is no irony. Where is the proof that vegetarian human methane is harmful to the environment. We know that its bad from the billion or so livestock cows, but there is NO evidence from the 1 billion vegetarians. I pity your arguments, they are embarrassingly bad. You do realise that much of your diet will be plant based anyway (as you can't live without it, unlike meat). So attacking plant production, you are attaacking yourself.
@CompassionateChap Now who is floudnering. A majority of your comments were just accusing me arguing for the sake of it and calling me stupid? You are just shouting out accusations now.
So suddenly human methane and CO2 is not harmful all of a sudden? Well if your little dream of all 6/7 billion of us were vegetarian, the increase production of human gases would have a noticeable effect on the enviroment. That is sure.
@chaosproduction Where is any evidence that human "methane" output is harmful? There is none. Since going vegetarian, i've not noticed any difference personally, other than not getting constipated so much! To compare human methane output to 1 billion livestock is completely bonkers and you are clearly on your own here with your thinking.
@CompassionateChap (Part 2) Again you accuse me of attacking plant production? No no no. You have it all wrong yet again. I am simply pointing out the hypocrisies in your arguments against meat. You accuse meat production to cause health problems (eating in high amounts of course) and damage to the environment. But the same can just be said about crop harvesting. I’m attacking your hypocrisy. Why would I attack crop harvest when I eat vegetables etc?
@chaosproduction There are no hypocrisies - i fully understand that to lead relatively unchanged lives from now, other than diet, there is always an environmental hit. The difference is that we know without question that if everyone was to switch to vegan/vegetarian, that the overall impact to the environment would be much reduced. Even the United Nations state this! It is absolutely futile to deny this. Stop living in a dream world.
@CompassionateChap Again, you still accuse me of things I do not believe. I am aware that enviroment would improve, of course it would. The enviroment would Improve if I stopped using a car. You won't stop believing I am fighting against crop harvest. No, just pointing out what you condemn meat for, can just as easily be applied to crops harvest etc.
@chaosproduction LOL - clearly you are one of "those types of people" who refuse to back down from an argument, not matter how wrong they are. *sigh*. Either way, i'm glad you admit that going vegetarian/vegan would reduce pollution and help the environment. Thats all i wanted to hear. As for it also applying to crop harvest - maybe, but to a far lesser extent, plus we need to eat plant food, where as we don't need to eat meat. End of discussion.
@CompassionateChap Would going vegetarian reduce pollution? Yes. However this is the only benefit I see. There is still the amout of damage it does still. Water usage and pollution, Toxic emmisons from pesticides and waste burings, pollution from tractors and other machinary. I wouldn't call that helping the enviroment. Meat will be necessary if you want to get the right intakes of previously mentioned supplements and prevent been at risk of becoming undernurished of these important nutrients.
@chaosproduction Yes, going vegetarian would reduce pollution, wasting water, land, polluting water. No matter what way you look at it, all forms of effects on the environment would be reduced by switching to vegetarian - as meat production does all the bad things that you point out that you say growing vegetation does.....but FAR FAR FAR worse. Also, it would greatly improve global health. You scaremongering about "supplements" is a nonsense and long since dispelled. Its 2011, not 1911.
@CompassionateChap Getting rid of alot of things would reduce pollution. I still don't know why you codemn meat alone. Again, you misunderstood me when I said vegetarianism helps the enviroment. Of course, reducing livestock would mean less pollution, but so would reducing the amount of crops harvested. Missed my point entierly again, don't condemn meat alone. Vegetarians always forget about the problems caused by the methods used to produce vegetables, then blame only meat for pollution.
@CompassionateChap (Part 2) I am wrong? How can you say I am wrong when the majority of the time you clearly misunderstand what I am actually arguing about and saying. You only just realised I wasn’t fighting against crop harvest and merely pointing out your wrongs. So you can’t exactly tell me I am wrong.
@chaosproduction No, you are basically admitting that meat production is really bad for the environment and that going vegetarian would be better for the environment (just look at your previous comments) - and despite this you are still arguing and saying its fine....so therefore you have lost completely. Get over it now. You can't backtrack. I appreciate you don't have any friends, and arguing on here is your life, but you should move on now.
@CompassionateChap (Part 2) Ah of course. This supplements point is obviously old and been disproved. I shall believe you when you show me your source on it. You will have to eat an awful lot more than normal to make up for your losses on these supplements.
I don’t have friends or a life? Oh such a childish insult, and such Irony. I believe you just do the same? I have seen you arguing with people on many vegetarian videos. Don’t act as if you don’t do the same, you start the majority infact.
@chaosproduction You named before a couple of isolated nutrients - all of which can be sourced from a vegetarian diet. There is absolutely no proof that vegetarians are deficient in any way - in fact, because they live longer, surely thats an indication its the meat eaters that are deficient rather than the veggies ;-)
Since I turned vegetarian, i've never ever felt healthier. I have more energy, feel leaner, and haven't had any illness for over 2 years. I was ill often when i ate meat.
@CompassionateChap They don't exactly live longer, the length of their lives vary. It is near impossible to be 100% certain that a group of people live longer than another group of people. They simply have a higher expectancy by a few years. Expectancy is alot different to life span. You haven't learned a thing have you?
Meat eaters are deficient? In what exactly? Because we have no limits to diet we get enough required supplements. I wouldn't expect us to be deficient unless we didn't eat them
@CompassionateChap (Second reply) Meat eaters aren’t unhealthier, if their meals are balanced. That means they will be fine as long as they don’t eat meat in high numbers. Somebody who eats about one meal with meat a day, isn’t going to have problems. Balanced omnivore diets give you just enough of everyone, that is why it is said to be the healthiest and the best.
@CompassionateChap (Third reply) You seem to give the impression meat eaters only eat meat, when it isn’t true. We have no limits to diet, so we can eat whatever. Even meals without meat (shocking huh?). Vegetarians can get B12, Iron etc. But not enough. Which leads to these health problems.
@chaosproduction Meat eaters can eat anything, but usually eat meat daily which is harmful. There is little evidence to suggest vegetarians don't get enough b12 or iron either. Iron is rich in green vegetables, and b12 is available in eggs, dairy, naturally organic grown vegetables, and is fortified in so many different foods. Stop getting yourself worked up by myths started by the meat industry. They are trying to protect their business.
@chaosproduction Its pointless arguining with someone as blinkered as you. You'll always want to get the last word in, not matter how trivial or pointless it is. I lost any respect for you when you started on the argument about methane in human beings from being vegetarian (we don't have 4 stomach chambers like cows you imbecile). You have no idea what you are on about, and just arguing because you have little else to say or do.
@CompassionateChap So because I reply I am trying to get the last word in? It appears you have nothing else to say and have now just resorted to making false accusations and assumptions.
If you have nothing else to say fine, but don't waste your time accusing my argument against you ''pointless'' or claiming I am just arguing because I have nothing else to do. It isn't very smart and you are making yourself look like an idiot.
@chaosproduction You have never responded with anything other than your own whacko theories, as i used an example, your theory that vegetarian humans would pollute the earth with methane gas because of their diet!! I hate to tell you this, but we're not cows and have an entirely different digestive process, it was a foolish and daft comment to make, it made you look stupid.
At least I can rely on you to reply quickly and I'll give you the last word soon, no matter how irrelevant it will be.
@CompassionateChap Theories? Oh of course. It's a theory because it goes against your arguments condeming meat, how did I not realise before. You aren't going to get far if you accuse everything that goes against your arguments as theories without any reason why.
You always seem to change my words too, I said it's a FACT that vegetarians/vegans produce more human gases because of their diet. It doesn't take a genius to realise it would have SOME effect on the enviroment. Read carefully.
@chaosproduction Ok, now you have pinned your name to that rather bold statement - please can you provide proof that a) vegetarians produce more "human" gases, because of their diet, and b) it will have ANY effect, let alone some. I think you have well and truly dug your own grave here. Also, how does it compare to the 1.3 BILLION cattle farms produce for meat? Incidentally - i had worse flatulence when i ate meat. I feel much cleaner now than i did before, most veggies concur with this.
@CompassionateChap I have mentioned about the gases earlier. No wonder I keep repeating myself you never learn. Because the bodies inability to fully digest the complex carbohydrates in the vegetarian diet, it produces more gases such as methane, CO2 and hydrogen. I'm sure over 6 billion vegetarians producing alot more Methane and CO2 than normal would have some effect on the enviroment. I never did say it compared to cows producing gas either. Putting words in my mouth now.
@chaosproduction We're not ruminants, our bodies don't produce methane like a ruminant mammal does. One could eat pork, beef or lamb and get terrible flatulence. Our bodies our more than capable of digesting plant matter - we respond best to fibre in our diet, something which meat has NONE of. You've failed to show any evidence though of how humans eating a veggie diet would have any concernable impact. You have FAILED again.
@CompassionateChap Meat doesn't contain fibre. Your point? I shall eat food WITH fibre then, problem solved. Not all foods have everything, but I can still get these important nutrients in the correct intakes because I have no limit to my diet.
Just use your common sense, the increase in gases produced by vegetarian diet will effect the enviroment. It's like asking if car fumes causes pollution.
The pollution caused by cow flautuence, what are they eating? Not meat that is certain.
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PCPiggee 22 hours ago
Go look up the movie earthlings on YouTube it will change the way you look at the meat you eat forever
Hmach4r 1 week ago
people will always slaughter animals and the less people eat the meat of the aniamals the more meat that will go to waste in grocery stores. so granola boy. you may be trying to save the animals while realy more are dying in vain because of people like you.
thebolder97 1 week ago
This is a great video Ben Loka
fedwitt 1 week ago
alright so if we take away slaughter houses we can stop wars.... wrong. I can gaurantee wars will still take place in the world without slaughter houses. I never killed anything personally, and i may not ever but i do eat meat amazing isnt it. Although if we were all vegetarians overnight we would kill the planet eventually, overpopulation anyone? What do you suppose we do with all the beef cows, chickens, pigs, etc. that are not being killed for our consumption?
nubstar101 2 weeks ago
And not a single fuck was given, go meat!!!
thenewestguitarist 2 weeks ago
I will never stop eating meat.
Mommi2Angels 2 weeks ago
im a vegetarian...
2000bananas 3 weeks ago
hi i have recently strted to become vegan and although you did say how are teeth were made to eat certain foods I was wondering if you have ever come across some kind of chewwy tofu or other kinds of vegimeat that was chewy because I things I miss most is eating something chewy and I don't mean like a carrot. Also ive never had eggplant is that chewwy? just looking for some chewy textures.
eliv127 4 weeks ago
so your saying that's because I eat meat I'm immoral? well for one I get all my food from a free range and grass fed animals (you can't get healthy off an un-healthy animal) and if there wasn't a convenient supplier I'd go catch my food myself like humans have been doing for last 20000+ years. And right I also on morals, I assume you grow your own vegetation or buy organic produce? because most commercial grain and vegetation are covered in toxic pesticides which kill pests (living organisms)
ethanomglolz 1 month ago
Nothing intrinsically wrong with eating meat at all. However, the meat industry and mass-farming is nothing short of evil and should be shunned and boycotted.
jeffreykins 1 month ago
Reasons not to be: Meat tastes gewd.
GangstaModeSthlm 2 months ago
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Do meat eaters feel guilty about eating meat? /watch?v=MzXlsTKndGA
haridham 2 months ago
I <3 u
BlackLily888 2 months ago
VEGETARIAN PRIDE!
tianiknowswhat 3 months ago
@tianiknowswhat Yes. Hare Krsna Veganism/Vegetarianism rules check out my videos /watch?v=WWMnscY04AY
haridham 2 months ago in playlist More videos from BenLoka
what bullshit i will never stop eating meat i mean come on this fag is just talking out his ass almost every thing he said was a lie
MrShrapnal420 3 months ago
i always hated eating meat, but its convenient, but YOU HAVE CONVERTED ME :) i agree, eating meat is not natural, thanks for reminding me i never really thought of it. what do you think about pescatarianism? (where the only meat you eat is fish/seafood) because thats what i basically am.
SheSpiltTheCoffee 3 months ago
it instead of using it as a personal commodity. Just because you have the power to do something doesnt justify doing it, especially abusing it. I dont understnad if there is a compassionate route why we cant take it, and why would anyone want to defend against it?
acousticatmosphere 4 months ago
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@acousticatmosphere Yes Vegetarianism rules. Check out my videos. /watch?v=WWMnscY04AY&feature=channel_video_title
haridham 3 months ago
This whole "survival if the fittest" is horribly out dated. Plus anyone who uses that sentence in an argument without even knowing the meaning behind it, or lack reading any of darwins work has no room to quote. Ie: hitler. What about darwins the expression of emotions in man and animals. the selfish gene, anything from johnathan balcome, E.O. Wilson or Peter singer? All works that show how similar we are, and that our evolutionary development of reason and altruism should be used to preserv
acousticatmosphere 4 months ago
Physical: flat feet, exposed anatomy, long pregnancy, night time sleeping habits, well developed facial muscles, jaws built for teeth to slide past each other (ie:grind) hole in oral cavity allows us to create a vacuum (ie suck not lap) narrow esophagus, caecum size, stomach designed for batch feeding, long sm intestine, digestive enzymes (amylase) to name a few
acousticatmosphere 4 months ago
So I watched the documentary 'Earthlings' last week and thought long and hard about it. I decided to cut down my meat consumption drastically, but a few nights later we had steak. Half way through eating it, I stopped and thought about the documentary and how exactly the meat got to my plate. Needless to say I felt physically ill and didn't finish my meal. I'm now vegetarian and absolutely loving it. Though some people can be so narrow minded.
Pipinhot64 4 months ago
Plants are also living things...isn't also.."killing"
X5Exotic 4 months ago
I became a vegetarian because of your video! Thanks so much for the eye opener. It has changed my life in SO many ways.
sarahstevenbass07 4 months ago
@sarahstevenbass07 This is a great video and great channel. I've been a vegetarian all my life. Check out my channel. watch?v=ry9LVdwKel8
haridham 4 months ago
Killing is not "wrong". Its called survival of the fittest. As long as the animal has a good life and does not suffer it is natural to consume it. Ancestors have done it for years. Plus i would rather not eat the incredibly unhealthy grains that most vegetarians eat.
joshfinz 4 months ago
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hey guys! if any of you are considering becoming a vegetarian or just want to learn a bit more, please check out my blog vegetarianmuch.blogspot.com , ive been a vegetarian for about 2 months now and havent felt better!
JamaicaSmile09 4 months ago
I was a vegetarian when I started this video, but by the end I had take a bite of a giantic steak. mmmmmm.
peazythatsmeazy 4 months ago
our incisors and canines ( teeth ) are meant for eating meat. and you sound like you think that everything you say is the right thing and how dare you think otherwise
Tristanisms 4 months ago
@Tristanisms Actually, the ingredients in our saliva and the way our digestive track is is designed for eating plants. Meat can sit in and rot in a humans digestive track for years. And it has been proven that meat can cause many diseases.
TheWombat0412 4 months ago
What do you think about eating dairy and eggs?
pilkasvilkas14 5 months ago
I agree with everything you say. It's better for the people, the animals and the world in general if you're a vegetarian. I get really happ when people say that they are vegetarian.
Sadly I'm not one, because I truly love meat of almost every kind. I do try to eat as much vegetables and fruits as possible, mostly because I really like it, but I'll probably never be a vegetarian.
lakritsnr1 5 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 but chickens are cute ^.^ !!
Xpsychedelic60sX 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 dude. AGAIN. HUMANS. ARENT. OMNIVORES. OUR. BODIES. ARENT. BUILT. TO. PROCESS MEAT. our bodies ADAPTED to eating meat. You arent a real cheetah to say "being an omnivore is no fucking excuse" because you arent one. you were born to meat, you grew up with it. biologically, YOU DONT NEED IT. Humans were never built to consume meat. We were hebivores who had to eat meat to be able to survive during ancient times because veggie nutrition wasnt available to all parts of the world.
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
@Chibi9TailedFox and correction, i meant to write bear. XD sorry man.
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
But Karma doesn't apply when other animals eat other animals?
Denleavy 6 months ago
This is sad, People give it up. I'm a omnivore and I think that this whole vegetarian meat eater thing is stupid. BenLoka, good for you for eating vegetables. Congratz to dudes who eat meat. Just stop this, some people need to eat meat to lower some carbon shit in the air or something and vegetarians are... uh... saving 100 animals a year O.o They are bolth significant reasons to SHUT UP AND THINK ABOUT SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT.
TheKwittykwat 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 LOL. Im not calling America stupid. Did you NOT see that I said "america has brilliant minds" America isn't dumb. The people who went to college at least, who got a degree and who decided to travel the world. I know a LOT of Americans. I go to an American school. Everyone I know almost is American. They're smart people. Let THEM do the talking please. and DONT TRY to get off on that. thats like the UN saying "well Unicef is not much better than us. they arent helping at all."
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
@Chibi9TailedFox Its not a fucking excuse for you to do it too you know. to be that cruel to animals just because china and india are worse.. ugh. my god. the logic of your thoughts just proves that this world will never see a change because everyone will ALWAYS use that excuse. "well they are doing worse. attack them, not us." Everyone is the problem. For a change to happen, everyone must participate, not come up with pathetic excuses to blame others.
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
Meat eating. Simply. Isnt. Necessary for. ANYTHING. If ANYTHING it will LOWER the amount of energy needed to run the goddamn factories that make meet available to the world. You guys are amazingly uneducated. And if you did go to school and get education, then please, point me to your sources of information, cuz I'd like to throw it all in the water with all the research and documentaries and scientific PhD doctoral statements I have been present at to hear with my own ears.
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
nearly EVERT comment on this video is unsupported idiosicm with no facts to back it up. You guys need to get your head out of your ass and back into a classroom. 45% of America cant point to its own country and it finds a right to comment on high level stuff like global warming. America has brilliant people, so please let them talk. You guys commenting only make America sound stupid, and you're wondering why the rest of the world laughs.
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 -last contd- and NO. We weren't built to eat meat. We adapted to eating meat. Scientifically, we are a herbivore race that has adapted to eating meat for survival purposes. We DO NOT need it. From Hinduism to Christianity "bread and wine". To science where meat is potentially dangerous, and where soy provides ALL the necessary proteins and all that shit you people use for an excuse to eat meat.So check your facts before posting.
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 "well there's 7 billion of them. Who cares? theres more of em than us." Yeah I dont think you'd take too kindly in being born, raised, and forced to give birth, then be lead off to get your body parts chopped off, while hundreds of other women/men stare at you. Grow a fucking heart.
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 contd. - And oh for your "so logical" brain, here's another little factoid. The only reason there are so many chickens is because we fucking force them to be. because we inseminate them, because we keep them in pent up factories, because the only life they know is birth, giving birth/being taken sperm from. and eventual death. Its fucking cruel and disgusting. And imagine an alien race that colonized us said that about you. -contd-
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 You absofuckinglutely cannot compare yourself to a goddamn lion. Lets take this to a scientific stand point and prove that lions have smaller intestines than humans which allows for the excesses and impurities of meat to be released on time, whereas in humans the meat is processed three times longer. A liion's jaw consists of teeth built to rip things apart. As you may have noticed, we dont have the same teeth set. - contd.
Chibi9TailedFox 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 but it used to have a brain, and blood and that to me is groose.
Xpsychedelic60sX 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 Sorry i'm not being rude but i didn't understand what you said at the end? what I think is that when i eat meat i feel bad and disgusting and maybe that is why there are vegetareants in the wold some people are fine with it and eating animals doesn't bother them but i'm really sensetive and i love animals, it feels wrong. I have a great body to! not to thin or anything. Just to me it feels wrong and i guess i'm trying to make people understand how i feel!
Xpsychedelic60sX 6 months ago
And if you had the chocie to eat a dead animal or not i think i would chose the less bloody one. It also makes me feel better i'm not sure about you but when i eat and apple or somthing jucy not int he bloody sence i feel happier when i used to eat beef and salty meats
They put dead animals bits in harribows, if you think abotu what you're eating it's actually reather offputting.
Xpsychedelic60sX 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123 there are more chickes than people?
Xpsychedelic60sX 6 months ago
4:04 yes I do,it was the last time I saw a cousin of mine a month ago and she was real fat, however I can't saw she properly substitutes meat and seems to me more like someone who lives without meat than a vegetarian
BCoy2Pacman 6 months ago
Alright, Now guys. Its not just eating meat. Its the WAY we eat meat. We slaughter animals who are awake. Slit their throughs, and not only does this affect the animals, but this is the MAIN reason for global warming, generating more greenhouse-gas emissions than all the cars, trucks, planes, boats &trains in the world COMBINED. I know peda shows only the bad things, but really there isnt much good in processed meat. And this stuff DOES happen. Even if your not vegi, you should still KNOW.
Sugar0220 6 months ago
@thekingcheetah123
your not a lion dipstick, and just because it is natural does not mean it is good. disease and death are natural but im sure you wish to avoid those perfectly natural things eh?
pboisei 6 months ago
karma will get me because i eat meat!!?? haha you and all other vegetarians are fucking retarded.
Trumaust7 6 months ago
Karma: People who have little pitty on sick/crippled because they believe they earned their illness. Canine teeth? We have them. (we are omnivores) Slaughter houses? (BAD..agreed, but people come before animals) Vegitarians often place animals over humans (evil view violent comments often made by Vegitarians/PETA) Health: Vegitarians often look weak, lack good energy and die of cancer too (Jackie O +Linda McCartney) Suffering: Sad but life. Too mny ppl to feed & not enough land to raise veggies.
wigwamman1 6 months ago
ROTFLMAO! COME HERE CHICKEN! (I've see 'em take that bennies head and put they feet on his legs and pull briskly, ZAP!)
HMDickson 6 months ago
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Why does everyone hate on VEGANS?
Because they try and force their whacked out liberal agenda/belief system on others instead of just shutting the fuck up and letting others do what they want.
h20fwler1 6 months ago
uhm...the teeth thing that says that "eating meat isnt natural" it's because the man itself is an omnivore...that's why he doesen't have the teeth so sharp...
TheKingRomio2 7 months ago
I LOVE THISSSSS
and i'm proud to say i've been a vegetarian for 5 and a half years =)
i'd also like to point out that in a comment below mine from @ElectroSapper it says "YOU must be a idiot" CLEARLY YOU ARE ANNNNNNN IDIOT IF YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY AN IDIOT PROPERLY ! IT'S NOT A IDIOT ! IT STARTS WITH A VOWEL HAHAHA ! eating too much meat i see .
mcqueek360 7 months ago
you are soo right in every point :) keep on posting such great things :)
TalkingVogue 7 months ago
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No, You dont have to tell me what to do.
nerfmaster329 7 months ago
You make a good case, but I don't give a fuck.
larrryd 7 months ago
Alot of your arguments are subjective when you claim them to be fact, also alot of your core beliefs about the human body are false. However, vegatarianism has many good points to it you don't address. So don't talk about other people's ignorance.
newaccountforfilms 7 months ago
thank you for making this video. thank u really its so hard trying to tell people. we all need to do what we can to educate others. So many people are blind to what goes on. Blind to karma, blind to the laws of the universal law, blind to the reality that the world could be so beautiful.
angelinagrace1 7 months ago
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so dam true ignorant people learn
u know what most people explanation for eating meat because it tastes good
well no thank u go vegetarian =D
InsaneJohnny666 7 months ago
Johnny Depp's little brother...
Xilosphere 7 months ago
This is all nice and all, but there are two major reasons why one should not become a vegetarian:
1. to not become a total faggot
2. to not make stupid faggy videos on youtube that spawn nothing but comments like this one
Dethmasheen 7 months ago
@Dethmasheen To not be a faggot? Aren't you the one that takes meat in your mouth and out of your ass?
CompassionateChap 7 months ago
@CompassionateChap
Yes, so?
Dethmasheen 7 months ago
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@Dethmasheen I'm glad you admit to it! Its always the most homophobic ones who end up being gay.....
CompassionateChap 7 months ago
I'm going to go get a cheese burger with my child and we'll celebrate being meat eaters!
RGMerkel 7 months ago
@RGMerkel Poor child will probably end up fat and riddled with diseases - you sound like a very irresponsible parent. Enjoy your burger fatty.
CompassionateChap 7 months ago
@RGMerkel Go for it. Any while you're at it, give your child cigarettes. You'd be doing more or less the same thing to their body.
MCRdynamite 7 months ago
@MCRdynamite Perhaps they should do a line of coke with them as well. I think i'd rather do that to be honest than eat a disgusting cheese burger.
CompassionateChap 7 months ago
@CompassionateChap At least the cocaine didn't scream in terror and agony before it reached the table.
MCRdynamite 7 months ago
Narcissistic vegetarians at their finest. Hiding behind a facade of ethics to blind their true vain selves. they seek attention by trying to make a scene and be so different from everyone else. Personally, i think we should just eat vegetarians, It's actually physically, ethically and environmentally better if we do.
switchbladesaint16 7 months ago
@switchbladesaint16 . Ignorant, apathetic fucker at his best. Using bogus logic, pseudo philosophy and reason in an attempt to hide his apathy. They just don't get that a pig, cow, and sheep feel, love and are just as intelligent as the dog, cat or horse. Personally i think, people who are apathetic should shut the fuck up - we get you're apathetic, it's okay - just don't try to belittle others belief systems.
kharnvelzyghur 7 months ago
@switchbladesaint16
0/10. Sucks because you tried so hard to be snarky and failed miserably. Chin up though, you may get some pity from other brainwashed drones soon enough :)
lastplacewin 7 months ago
@switchbladesaint16 Eating non-human animals and eating humans are more or less the same thing. It's just that one of them is legal.
And as for your comment about how vegetarianism is simply a way to be different - it's not. How would you know? I talk about my vegetarianism if it's relevent, otherwise it's not important. How am I attention seeking if I rarely talk about it?
MCRdynamite 7 months ago
507 people were mad they didn't get enough protein.
ilovezboyz 7 months ago
507 people were mad they didn't get enough protein.
ilovezboyz 7 months ago
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It's clear that there exist animal abuse and inhumane killings which need to be minimized. But to advocate vegetarianism for everyone and abandon meat consumption entirely is asinine.
What about the millions of people starving? or the people employed in the industry and their families? or indigenous people (located in tundras for instance) whose main food source is meat? What will happen to all the cuisines (which is a large component of a nation's culture, history, and tradition) in the world?
suiciderxxx 8 months ago
If meat is harmful to us all.Then how come? When i see i nice piece of ass ''meaty'' nice ass ,i just want to go ahead and eat it?
TOLTECAAZTECA 8 months ago
I'm sorry but i really can't stop eating meat :[ I mean i can but i don't want to, i can't live with out chicken breast & rice woooo boy is that good, well at least how my mami makes it, i can stop eating McDonald's & fast food, i know they aren't good at all but chicken breast, my favorite meat & i just can't, i eat it errrday, never get tired of it :] Anywho,......................... He seems cool.
iiHatezDomii 8 months ago
Thumbs up if you felt your teeth at 4:18
turtwig44344 8 months ago
"This is going to be a real video with real reasons that you can relate to... KARMAAAA"
Never mind.
3bringmemusic3 8 months ago
If ur worried whats in ur meat, dont worry, Thats why theres something called cooking the meat. People have been even more clever in founding an organization called the FDA! Who knew?
Obviously not you vegtarians
MegaMayorca 8 months ago
@MegaMayorca Yeah, the FDA has never done anything wrong, and isn't corruptible or bias; just like everything else in this world (eyes roll)
royalblowno 8 months ago
you are a fucking moron. "You are basically eating fear" shut the hell up, the human race would have died off by now if that were true, we evolved to become omnivorous, why the hell would we get depressed and angry simply because of our nature? Also, how could vegetarianism improve your sense of well-being, on't tell me that vegetables make you feel happy because they were happy when the died. You fucking mron, your canine teeth are sharp, your incisors are thin like a blade.
yeaitwasme 8 months ago
@yeaitwasme Wow, angry much? if you're an Omnivore, try chomping on bone (adios teeth)..
royalblowno 8 months ago
@royalblowno lol ppl i know just be sucking on the bone, chomping & all, it's nasty.
iiHatezDomii 8 months ago
@yeaitwasme Ingesting fear wouldn't make someone die, you idiot. When I turned vegetarian four years ago, I felt so different just within a week. A felt happier and healthier. I had more energy and I felt better emotionally, knowing that I was leading a more compassionate life.
A lot of people go against "nature". Do you wear sun screen? People have adapted to their environments.
MCRdynamite 8 months ago
@yeaitwasme (Continued) If you lived in Africa, your skin would be darker and a lot less vulnerable to burning than if you lived in England, where the climate is much colder. By your logic, if I went to Africa, I wouldn't be allowed to protect my skin. I would have to INCREASE THE RISK OF CANCER because sun screen "goes against nature". Meat increases the risk of cancer. To me, it doesn't make sense to carry on eating it when it could prove to be lethal one day.
"Nature" is irrelevant here.
MCRdynamite 8 months ago
@MCRdynamite True, skinresiliance may change from place to place, but the essential needs of a human do not. It is clear that no matter where you are, every normal huan on this planet has the body of an omnivore. There is no denying it.
yeaitwasme 8 months ago
@yeaitwasme My point, that you seemed to have missed, is that "it's unnatural not to eat meat" is not a valid point, as we do MANY "unnatural" things that either make us healthier or protect us from harm. Vegetarianism/veganism can do both of those.
Vegetarians and vegans can survive. They're generally happier and healthier than meat eaters and have longer lifespans. Humans CAN eat meat, but they don't HAVE to. It's actually physically, ethically and environmentally better if they don't.
MCRdynamite 8 months ago
@MCRdynamite Vegetarian diet is not physically or enviromentally better. Growing crops for example, requires the use of alot of pesticides and fertilizer. If this gets into water supply, then it will pollute the water and cause damage to anyone who drinks it. Also toxic emmisons are released by burning agricultural waste.
Vegetarians don't get enough Calcium, B12, Vitamin D or Iron supplements in their diet. This means they become prone to becoming anemic. Plus many other health problems.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction If these health problems are so rife, why are vegetarians and vegans living longer and healthier lives? Calcium, iron and vitamin D are easily obtained naturally, and many foods are fortified with B12. Meat eaters are unhealthier in general, and more vitamin deficient, mainly because vegetables are far more nutritious than meat is, and veggies by default eat more of this.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Vegetarians living longer all depends. It is of course going to vary between the lot of them, and depends what else they do to stay healthy, since diet is not enough. Some might live longer, some might not. You can never be 100% positive that this is a true statment.
These health problems aren't live threating either, but still damaging. And I wouldn't say they live healthier, as research as shown. Well balanced omnivore diet tends to give you what you need and be better.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction There is no evidence to suggest that even eating meat in tiny amounts, is helpful. Its a food group that humans have been conditioned to, and cook and enjoy, but don't for one second believe its more beneficial than fruit and veg.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap I never said helpful. Just not harmful. But it would lower your risk of causing the damage vegetarians have to their health due to lack of needed supplements. And when I said well balanced omnivore diet, you do realise balanced means just as much vegetables as meat?
These supplements are in short supply for vegetarians. Esepcially vegans who can't have dairy.
I world hardly call them myths, anything that is against your points is now a myth? Sour grapes again.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Vegetarians are the ones with health problems - they are usually far healthier, suffer from cancer, heart disease, osteoperosis, obesity and other illnesses far less. A vegetarian diet, or at least a "well balanced" one (i know you like that phrase), is full of all the nutrition a human needs. Hence why the live longer and healthier lives.
This is why i call them myths. Most people (nutritionists included) accept a meat free diet is healthy, so why argue?
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap These problems you mention that are cause by meat eating, only occur if meat is eating in large amounts e.g. eating red meat for about 3 meals every day. You will have problems.
As I already explained, with such statistics as vegetarians living longer lives, you can never be 100% certain of that can you? It's going to vary, diet alone won't make a person healthier, or live longer. Some might live longer some might not. I have already mentioned that. This is just De Ja Vu now.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction These problems occur on an average meat eater. People who eat red meat 3 meals a day would suffer even more. Eating meat daily is unhealthy, if people want to take it seriously - they should have at most 3 meat based meals a WEEK. Meat contains cholesterol, which humans don't need as we produce it. This is linked to cancer and heart disease. Planet protein reduces cholesterol.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@chaosproduction If you also take an example of two groups of similar people - seventh day adventists and mormons, the former doesn't drink/smoke or eat meat, the latter doesn't drink or smoke but eats meat. The Seventh Day Adventists lead longer and healthier lives, and their diet plays a big role in this, thanks to it being meat free.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap I'm afraid you are over reacting again. One meal of meat a day is not going to cause problems. Eating meat is moderation is what is required, but one meal with meat a day is not to much. This is just an assumption, but by any chance do you get your information of vegetarian websites? Because the always over exaggerate there points, even lie sometimes. So those aren't exactly a good source of information.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Second reply) Again, diet alone is not enough for good health. I have been through this many times. For example, if I was to sit about, do nothing all day, and eat vegetarian meals. Would I be healthier than a meat eater who eats about one meal with meat a day about 5 days a week (no over exaggerations on moderation) and exercises every day? No I would not. Longer life aswell, cannot be 100% positive.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction No, but a person who exercises and eats a vegetarian diet, has a better chance than a meat eater who eats meat once a day but also exercises. Diet is INCREDIBLY important and should not be underestimated.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
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chaosproduction 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Healthier in some ways perhaps. There is still the limit of supplements a vegetarian can get in there diet. But the meat eater would not be unhealthy.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Nonsense - a vegetarian diet is rich in nutrients, as by default you will eat more plant based food. Sure if all you ate was chips and pasta, then you would have deficiencys....but if you only ate chips, pasta and meat you would still have deficiencys. A well balanced vegetarian diet ticks all the boxes nutritionally.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Well not really. Like mentioned. you are in low supply of Vitiman D (found in Dairy, Fish, eggs etc.), B12 (Beef, Lamb, Eggs, Seafood) and have low intakes of Iron.
Also very low supply of Omega 3 fatty acids, most commonly found in Meat, eggs and other sea foods like fish.
These supplements can prevent and lower the chances of many health problems like atherosclerosis (prevented by Omega 3 acids), high triglyceride levels and even can help with personality orders.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Obviously you are focusing on a strict vegan diet, rather than a vegetarian diet. Vitamin D is quite comfortably sourced from sunlight though. Omega 3,6,9 can be sourced from nuts and seeds. B12 from seaweed, and organic veg from b12 rich soil, as well as alll of these nutrients from fortified foods and cereals.
Vegans have shown to have lower levels of vitamin D for example, but not deficient in it. Having more doesn't mean better either necessarily.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Yes, vegans will get it the worst. As they can't have dairy. But, you would have to eat alot more dairy products and an awful lot of seeds to make up for it. And by the sounds of it, you aren't to keen on dairy.
You can, of course, find these supplements in other foods, but in little amounts and barely enough. You would have to eat alot of seaweed and seeds etc. to make up for the loss.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction They don't get it "worse", they just have lower levels - they are deficient. Its a bit like saying having low blood pressure isn't as good as high blood pressure! Their vitamin D levels were perfectly acceptable.
I'm not keen on dairy - and i am very healthy. I've never felt healthier since i turned vegetarian and cut out most dairy. I've not had a cold or any illness in over 2 years. Before i ate meat at least once a day, and was getting ill a few times a year.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Yes, and because of these lower levels they have a larger risk of having these health problems. Less intake of these important supplements, more risk.
This is why a well balanced omnivore diet is considered the best and healthiest. Due to no limits of what food you can eat. You get the right intakes of each required supplements. Vegetarians, vegans alike, are in short supply, and will have to eat alot of foods with these supplements to make up for it.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction This is nonsense. If you are not "deficient" in these areas this is not going to affect your health, as the case of vegans. Just because a meat eater might get one or two nutrients in far higher doses, doesn't mean they are at less risk. Meat eaters of course get far more animal protein - the higher intake of animal protein, and cholesterol, the higher the risk of cancer, heart disease, osteoperosis. Sometimes "less is more". Vegans are usually very healthy.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Of course it will affect your health. In the case of animal protein, eating it in high intakes will cause problems. Eating it sensibly and in moderation won't be a problem. Your problem is over reacting to things, I feel like this is just De Ja Vu now.
Sometimes less is more, in this case it isn't. Vegans do have health benefits over meat eaters, but not in the slightest does it mean they are healthier overall. Back to the well balanced omnivore diet research.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Vegans do tend to live longer than meat eaters, so it suggests perhaps their diet isn't so bad after all.....I think a well balanced vegetarian or vegan diet is extremely beneficial.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap I have recently learned of a study to show the possible reasons some vegetarians may live longer. It is not necessarily their diet that makes them live longer.
Researchers at the European Institute for Food and Nutritional Science have said someone changing to a vegetarian diet would be concerned of their health, thinking that this diet is healthier. Been concerned of their health, they would not drink, smoke and do more excercises, increasing mortality, not because of diet.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Some vegetarians opt for this diet because its healthier - but that in itself says a lot surely! (that it IS healthier!).
On another study of groups of people....mormons eat meat, but don't drink....seventh day adventists don't drink and don't eat meat, the seventh day adventists live longer on average.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap No it is not healthier, like I already said. It has health benefits over meat eaters, but not the healthiest diet overall. Due to low supplies of important supplements that cause health problems when intakes aren't enough. This would mean vegetarians would have to eat alot more than normal to make up for their losses if they want to get the right amount. But really a well balanced omnivore diet is healthiest. People just think it is because they think it is vegetables etc.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction There is nothing missing from a vegetarian diet, stop blowing myths and meat industry propoganda out of proportion. You're making weak excuses. Since i became a vegetarian, the health benefits have been noticeable - there was nothing from eating the flesh of a dead chicken that I needed in my diet.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Yes of course. All myths. Is it just because it goes against all you argued about? No. These aren't myths. They are facts from studies and research.
They are believed to lead longer lives is what I said. You can never be positive about a group of people living longer lives, you can only really give them a life expectancy. Which, of course, is only 'expectancy'. Diet is not enough to make you ''live longer'', just provides a few health benefits, and health problems as well.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Part 2 of my reply) The seven day Adventists are thought to have a longer life expectancy by a few years than mormons.
They of course, are more concerned about health. So they don’t smoke, drink, exercise regulary and eat a small portion of nuts up to 5 times a week. All of this combined increases life expectancy slightly. But diet alone will not be enough, without more work on health; a vegetarian diet would not increase your life expectancy. And remember this is EXPECTANCY
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction I think you missed the point about the mormons and adventists. They lead similar lives, including not drinking, smoking etc.....but the adventists don't have meat in their diet. They live longer lives as you say.
Sure, there are other factors which increase life expectancy, but if diet is altered it can make a big difference, and on top of that you're saving money, animals and the environment. Its a win win, except for the meat industry.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (2nd Reply) Saving animals? We have already talked about it. You aren’t saving anything, just lowering how many animals are born and bred. There is a big difference to saving animals that are actually alive, to saving animals that don’t exist or ever will exist. That is done in vein.
As for the environment, you have yet to realise the damage done through crop growth and harvesting. Remember the pesticides? Fertillizer? Water usage and pollution? Waste burning? Heavy machiney?
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Don't be so stupid - its far better to not force breed animals, incarcerate them and slaughter them in their youth. I'm doing them a massive favour by not contributing to this, therefore it is saving animals from this terrible existences. Also, by lowering livestock, its lowering pollution.
Crop growth and harvesting will be done regardless - we need to eat vegetation. Plus a huge quantity of food produced goes to feed livestock, so once again you're on a losing argument.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap What you appear to be doing is thinking that you will save animals by becoming vegetarian. When all you are doing is lowering how many are born, then you try to comfort yourself by telling yourself you have prevented them from been used for meat. You aren't saving anything in existance.
Lowering pollution by a small amount, there is still the enviromental damage and pollution from crop harvest.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (part 2) Huge quantity of harvest goes to livestock? Yes, for one crop, corn. One crop out of so many others grown where the majority goes towards livestock. Don’t act as if the majority of the overall crops grown. The only crop I can think of that goes towards meat livestock is a small amount of wheat. I’m hardly losing an argument when I am arguing against false facts.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Ok, you are completely repeating yourself over and over. If you think that its good for animals welfare to force breed them in captivity, fatten them up and slaughter them for a quick meal - then your mind is warped.
Why don't you look closely into research into just how much fodder is used for animal feed, and the massive implications on the environment. 635 million tons a year doesn't sound like a small amount, and its not just wheat you imbecile. Open your eyes.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap I am repeating my self because I have to. Did I say it was good? No. I said you aren't saving existent animals. Really big difference there. Don't change my words
I have done my research. Out of the major crops grown in the US (corn, soybeans, hay, wheat, cotten, sorghum, rice) corn only covers about 70 million acres out of about 200 million acres. It's alot, but far, far from the most. As you can see the majority of crops do not go to livestock. I don't need to open my eyes.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction I am fully aware that I'm not saving "existent" animals, but by reducing demand, you are not putting an animal through a crappy existence - if you can't see this, then you are a moron. Just as i avoid using products tested on animals, this is helping reduce these vile acts. stop living in ignorance.
I don't think any research ever done, has said that vegetarian farming wouldn't be more efficient - why would you debate against it? Its complete stupidity and a waste of time.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap So a non-existant life is more important than a life the already exists? Don't you see how pointless it is to put all your effort into saving non-existant animals? Why don't you put this effort into changing the way the minority of slaughterhouses treat animals? Take in mind, it is only the minority of slaughter houses that treat animals is awful condition, there are now laws against it. There are just as many, if not more meat organisations that treat animals humanely.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Unfortunately - whilst slaughter continues to animals, cruelty will never disappear altogether. It would actually be far better to promote the benefits of vegetarianism so that people reduce their meat consumption and therefore less animals bred.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Again, reducing animals that are born will not change the way they are treat in the minority of factories. If you are against it, why not focus more on changing the way they are treat using a much more effective method than diet change.
Although crop harvest is not AS harmful, I am not aware of any benefits to the enviroment. It is still a big problem for enviromental damage.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (part 2) I’m not at all debating against crop harvesting. I am simply letting you know the damage it does to the environment, as you seem to give the impression that vegetarianism is perfect in every way. I am just pointing out your wrongs.
Vegetarianism causes the same problems as meat production in different ways, both health and environment.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Yes, i know that crop harvesting is not perfect, but we know for absolute fact and certainty, that if we eliminated meat production, the environment would improve as there would be less CO2 emissions, methane, less water waste and pollution and we would have far more land available.
To say "vegetarianism cause the same as meat production" is hugely naive, as there is mountains of studies and evidence displaying its economic and environmental positive impacts.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Part 2) Growing crops uses enough water as it is, but add to that the rivers and streams that are polluted by the use of fertilizer and pesticides. About 3 million cases of pesticide poisoning occur annually, causing up to and over 200,000 deaths. It can cause degradation to land like desertification, soil erosion, mineral depletion and even chemical degradation. Don’t fight against environmental damage; you have problems with it at your end.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction You really must be joking, as all the evidence points to animal agriculture as the most unsustainable and biggest pollutant in farming. You're so ignorant and burying your head in the sand. You don't realise that eating vegetables is absolutely essential to consume, where as meat isn't. You can produce far more food per square metre from a plant based diet compared with animal farming. Stop being so stupid now, and arguing for arguments sake. You can't win.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Part 3) It’s ironic really. Vegetarians fight against meat because of higher methane and CO2 emissions. But it’s a fact that vegetarians produce more gas than meat-eaters. Due to the bodies inability to fully digest the complex carbohydrates in the vegetarian diet, this results in higher production of gases like hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane. Not to mention the poisonous emissions from agricultural waste burning and nitrogen fertilizer.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction There is no irony. Where is the proof that vegetarian human methane is harmful to the environment. We know that its bad from the billion or so livestock cows, but there is NO evidence from the 1 billion vegetarians. I pity your arguments, they are embarrassingly bad. You do realise that much of your diet will be plant based anyway (as you can't live without it, unlike meat). So attacking plant production, you are attaacking yourself.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Now who is floudnering. A majority of your comments were just accusing me arguing for the sake of it and calling me stupid? You are just shouting out accusations now.
So suddenly human methane and CO2 is not harmful all of a sudden? Well if your little dream of all 6/7 billion of us were vegetarian, the increase production of human gases would have a noticeable effect on the enviroment. That is sure.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Where is any evidence that human "methane" output is harmful? There is none. Since going vegetarian, i've not noticed any difference personally, other than not getting constipated so much! To compare human methane output to 1 billion livestock is completely bonkers and you are clearly on your own here with your thinking.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Part 2) Again you accuse me of attacking plant production? No no no. You have it all wrong yet again. I am simply pointing out the hypocrisies in your arguments against meat. You accuse meat production to cause health problems (eating in high amounts of course) and damage to the environment. But the same can just be said about crop harvesting. I’m attacking your hypocrisy. Why would I attack crop harvest when I eat vegetables etc?
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction There are no hypocrisies - i fully understand that to lead relatively unchanged lives from now, other than diet, there is always an environmental hit. The difference is that we know without question that if everyone was to switch to vegan/vegetarian, that the overall impact to the environment would be much reduced. Even the United Nations state this! It is absolutely futile to deny this. Stop living in a dream world.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Again, you still accuse me of things I do not believe. I am aware that enviroment would improve, of course it would. The enviroment would Improve if I stopped using a car. You won't stop believing I am fighting against crop harvest. No, just pointing out what you condemn meat for, can just as easily be applied to crops harvest etc.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction LOL - clearly you are one of "those types of people" who refuse to back down from an argument, not matter how wrong they are. *sigh*. Either way, i'm glad you admit that going vegetarian/vegan would reduce pollution and help the environment. Thats all i wanted to hear. As for it also applying to crop harvest - maybe, but to a far lesser extent, plus we need to eat plant food, where as we don't need to eat meat. End of discussion.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Would going vegetarian reduce pollution? Yes. However this is the only benefit I see. There is still the amout of damage it does still. Water usage and pollution, Toxic emmisons from pesticides and waste burings, pollution from tractors and other machinary. I wouldn't call that helping the enviroment. Meat will be necessary if you want to get the right intakes of previously mentioned supplements and prevent been at risk of becoming undernurished of these important nutrients.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Yes, going vegetarian would reduce pollution, wasting water, land, polluting water. No matter what way you look at it, all forms of effects on the environment would be reduced by switching to vegetarian - as meat production does all the bad things that you point out that you say growing vegetation does.....but FAR FAR FAR worse. Also, it would greatly improve global health. You scaremongering about "supplements" is a nonsense and long since dispelled. Its 2011, not 1911.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Getting rid of alot of things would reduce pollution. I still don't know why you codemn meat alone. Again, you misunderstood me when I said vegetarianism helps the enviroment. Of course, reducing livestock would mean less pollution, but so would reducing the amount of crops harvested. Missed my point entierly again, don't condemn meat alone. Vegetarians always forget about the problems caused by the methods used to produce vegetables, then blame only meat for pollution.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Part 2) I am wrong? How can you say I am wrong when the majority of the time you clearly misunderstand what I am actually arguing about and saying. You only just realised I wasn’t fighting against crop harvest and merely pointing out your wrongs. So you can’t exactly tell me I am wrong.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction No, you are basically admitting that meat production is really bad for the environment and that going vegetarian would be better for the environment (just look at your previous comments) - and despite this you are still arguing and saying its fine....so therefore you have lost completely. Get over it now. You can't backtrack. I appreciate you don't have any friends, and arguing on here is your life, but you should move on now.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Part 2) Ah of course. This supplements point is obviously old and been disproved. I shall believe you when you show me your source on it. You will have to eat an awful lot more than normal to make up for your losses on these supplements.
I don’t have friends or a life? Oh such a childish insult, and such Irony. I believe you just do the same? I have seen you arguing with people on many vegetarian videos. Don’t act as if you don’t do the same, you start the majority infact.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction You named before a couple of isolated nutrients - all of which can be sourced from a vegetarian diet. There is absolutely no proof that vegetarians are deficient in any way - in fact, because they live longer, surely thats an indication its the meat eaters that are deficient rather than the veggies ;-)
Since I turned vegetarian, i've never ever felt healthier. I have more energy, feel leaner, and haven't had any illness for over 2 years. I was ill often when i ate meat.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap They don't exactly live longer, the length of their lives vary. It is near impossible to be 100% certain that a group of people live longer than another group of people. They simply have a higher expectancy by a few years. Expectancy is alot different to life span. You haven't learned a thing have you?
Meat eaters are deficient? In what exactly? Because we have no limits to diet we get enough required supplements. I wouldn't expect us to be deficient unless we didn't eat them
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Second reply) Meat eaters aren’t unhealthier, if their meals are balanced. That means they will be fine as long as they don’t eat meat in high numbers. Somebody who eats about one meal with meat a day, isn’t going to have problems. Balanced omnivore diets give you just enough of everyone, that is why it is said to be the healthiest and the best.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap (Third reply) You seem to give the impression meat eaters only eat meat, when it isn’t true. We have no limits to diet, so we can eat whatever. Even meals without meat (shocking huh?). Vegetarians can get B12, Iron etc. But not enough. Which leads to these health problems.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Meat eaters can eat anything, but usually eat meat daily which is harmful. There is little evidence to suggest vegetarians don't get enough b12 or iron either. Iron is rich in green vegetables, and b12 is available in eggs, dairy, naturally organic grown vegetables, and is fortified in so many different foods. Stop getting yourself worked up by myths started by the meat industry. They are trying to protect their business.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Its pointless arguining with someone as blinkered as you. You'll always want to get the last word in, not matter how trivial or pointless it is. I lost any respect for you when you started on the argument about methane in human beings from being vegetarian (we don't have 4 stomach chambers like cows you imbecile). You have no idea what you are on about, and just arguing because you have little else to say or do.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap So because I reply I am trying to get the last word in? It appears you have nothing else to say and have now just resorted to making false accusations and assumptions.
If you have nothing else to say fine, but don't waste your time accusing my argument against you ''pointless'' or claiming I am just arguing because I have nothing else to do. It isn't very smart and you are making yourself look like an idiot.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction You have never responded with anything other than your own whacko theories, as i used an example, your theory that vegetarian humans would pollute the earth with methane gas because of their diet!! I hate to tell you this, but we're not cows and have an entirely different digestive process, it was a foolish and daft comment to make, it made you look stupid.
At least I can rely on you to reply quickly and I'll give you the last word soon, no matter how irrelevant it will be.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Theories? Oh of course. It's a theory because it goes against your arguments condeming meat, how did I not realise before. You aren't going to get far if you accuse everything that goes against your arguments as theories without any reason why.
You always seem to change my words too, I said it's a FACT that vegetarians/vegans produce more human gases because of their diet. It doesn't take a genius to realise it would have SOME effect on the enviroment. Read carefully.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction Ok, now you have pinned your name to that rather bold statement - please can you provide proof that a) vegetarians produce more "human" gases, because of their diet, and b) it will have ANY effect, let alone some. I think you have well and truly dug your own grave here. Also, how does it compare to the 1.3 BILLION cattle farms produce for meat? Incidentally - i had worse flatulence when i ate meat. I feel much cleaner now than i did before, most veggies concur with this.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap I have mentioned about the gases earlier. No wonder I keep repeating myself you never learn. Because the bodies inability to fully digest the complex carbohydrates in the vegetarian diet, it produces more gases such as methane, CO2 and hydrogen. I'm sure over 6 billion vegetarians producing alot more Methane and CO2 than normal would have some effect on the enviroment. I never did say it compared to cows producing gas either. Putting words in my mouth now.
chaosproduction 6 months ago
@chaosproduction We're not ruminants, our bodies don't produce methane like a ruminant mammal does. One could eat pork, beef or lamb and get terrible flatulence. Our bodies our more than capable of digesting plant matter - we respond best to fibre in our diet, something which meat has NONE of. You've failed to show any evidence though of how humans eating a veggie diet would have any concernable impact. You have FAILED again.
CompassionateChap 6 months ago
@CompassionateChap Meat doesn't contain fibre. Your point? I shall eat food WITH fibre then, problem solved. Not all foods have everything, but I can still get these important nutrients in the correct intakes because I have no limit to my diet.
Just use your common sense, the increase in gases produced by vegetarian diet will effect the enviroment. It's like asking if car fumes causes pollution.
The pollution caused by cow flautuence, what are they eating? Not meat that is certain.
chaosproduction 6 months ago