Hey man... Your videos really hit home with me... But I think about it (I'm an "american") Nothing is real. Everything here is false idintity. You can't get away from it. I don't want to be american. I don't want to be any of these things. But its like you HAVE to be. You said you don't want people to go down that path.. I'm 17 and I'm already withered away and destroyed. I have no idea who I am.
All starts with fearful parents raising fearful children to get swallowed by a fearful society that embraces religion and the fear for the unknown to have control over humanity.
liked very much, BUT "find your true identity" reminds me of the Zeitgeist and the idea of burning all money of the world and organising people to profit themselves without money. What do I mean? If all money would be destroyed and the new Zeitgeist solution "works" - people will start the process of ellaborating money again. The same with "true identity" - the human psy is that people like to pay to hear what they are. And there'll always be "milkers and "milked". Always.
at the 10:41 mark, you start dropping nukes. I love it. This is me at a cocktail party: a friendly someone asks about a brand of beer or how my week was, and before I know it, I'm saying a version of this video from 10:41 - 11:26. "there's no God.. politics is not going to set you free. It's just people with guns." I love the look on your face at 11:02 after you say "there's no chosen people"-- it says, 'this truth sounds pretty bleak when it's put into words." I relate to this so well.
Its just great when someone can takes what you have already been thinking about in your head as a jumbled mess of questions and lays it out as a very solid, rational conversation. Great thoughts, very interesting as I have been struggling to find a meaning to life. I have much more to think on now! Thanks.
people ask and answer this question, ignorant of the important behind it. Before attempting ask or answer this question.u must understand the important of the answer,and u must be ready to except what u get.In short there is no meaning to life,so people makes up their own meaning of life.so many people with their own meaning of life, Ideas crossed and we have war.the soul purpose of the meaning of life is to unite the people if everyone agree on one meaning of life there will be no war.
@Paralyt1c Everything fits the paradigm of identity. Of course there's people who want to define themselves as parents and live by that. And there's people who want to define themselves as philosophers. But all of these symbols are false. They're just that: symbols. Even a person who wants to define himself as 'a person who does not define himself by any precooked paramenters' is tricking himself. The real trick is to have no attachments at all to reality. Only then will you be free.
More meaningless blather. Ramble on until you reach the bottom of your self-gratifying joy-happiness-virtue-crap spiral.
I would not buy a used car from you. How is that for meaning and illusion? From a rhetorical perspective, you could not even touch the dumbest of pop-shrinks-evangelic inbreeds.
Lots of words about nothing. Your thoughts should remain internal until your develop your thesis. Otherwise, you are just screaming for attention, Mr. Man -Every-Funny-Hat.
Stefbot, do you think that it is possible that there could be a meaning to life, but it is a futile pursuit? Maybe there is meaning, but it is a meaning we will never know and we should not waste what little time we have trying to find it? Maybe knowledge of such meaning would disrupt our lives?
Im sorry I stopped around 10:30, and didnt hear the rest. Until I posted the comment.
You are 100% correct. People look at the world around us for the answers to your needs, or ideas. Instead within. So my question to you is HOW DID YOU COME TO THIS CONCLUSION? This doesnt appear out of nowheres, but through an idea, you heard. WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD OF BRAINWASHING? Like I said in my other video AS I AM.
Not sure if you realize. But you are supplying the same as religion provides. Its not the money, but the idea of the answers, to life and the meaning of existance. And Im getting the feeling this isnt really about the meaning of life. But the people that live their life through a followed script. You are doing the same putting the ideas into someones head. The human mind is easily manipulated. This is the reason so many people are brainwashed in this world, as I am...
"You can only be loved for who you truly are". I strongly disagree; one can have unconditional love for another human because we empathize, and we know they exist. We know everyone has their troubles, and needs support. We can love despite identity. Truly love, at that.
Exactly why I only use marijuana and hallucinogens. No trough at all. Only more and more happiness that lasts! I guess that is only true when you have a rational mind though.
I'm not anti-hallucinogen (I've had a wonderful experience on mushrooms), but the inescapable implication of your post is that you need drugs to be happy. Isn't that - to use stefbots terminology - just another invisible pink unicorn?
Surely the highest form of happiness - the kind that stefbot describes in these videos - is you not needing to add anything (eg. drugs) to your existential equation. Rather, it is you accepting yourself completely as you are...?
Note, I said "my equation". You technically don't NEED anything. You don't need to eat or breathe if you don't want to; there may be consequences to these choices, but you certainly don't NEED to do anything.
I use marijuana and hallucinogens because I like them and from my own evidence gathering and research I have found them to be nothing but beneficial mentally and physically. I never said anyone else has to use them or anything like that. Everyone likes different things.
@glopur0 ....If you have a few mins. Check out studies from Dr. Daniel Amen very interesting his ideas about brain functions, food for the brain etc.. He shows healthy brains scanned compared to the ones that consume marijuana and hallucinogens substances demonstrating how those DO have a negative effect on brain functions and abilities, and how affect neurons and your pre-frontal cortex. But of course you "Dont have to watch the video" Im simply sharing that info with you. Cheers!
Furthermore, how can you pin down and define "you completely as you are"? You do realize that every 7 years every cell in your body has died and a new one has replaced it, right? I am 21, so I have been 3 completely different people!
And lastly, everything that you experience is chemicals in your brain. If you think that not intaking certain kinds of chemicals is better, that's fine, but realize it's no different than deciding not to go to sports games, or not to sky dive, or to not have a child. These are all experiences which induce chemicals reactions in the brain, which cause you to feel things.
Well said. garethac81 has no response. I think you put it better than anyone else on the comments, and your perspective should be considered by stefbot. They don't know what they don't know... so I don't think they should try to talk down on something that they don't know about. Weed is a gift from the earth - take advantage. (if people choose not to, it's their loss - more for the rest of us)
OMG, I have always been an independant person but I grew up in a cult and avoided making friends with the world. now I am free from that cult and don't know how to relate to others except in my family. I am so lonely. When you say it's like being in a cast and the muscles have withered and your real self is full of discontent. people don't want to know about that and avoid me and I don't trust them. it's a vicious cycle. You said it, Stefen!
Letting down your guard is hard in the complicated society that we now live in. If you were to experience the world 15-20 years ago, you might be able to integrate a little easier.. however, you might just end up falling into one of the handful of other groups available at that time... perhaps punk (the misfits of that day) would have worked out for ya ;)
Sir, I strongly disagree with you. Many religions do not directly take money from practitioners and are motivated by a desire to help them be happy. America takes tax money, and gives you back law, order, military safety, consumer safety... We all stop paying our taxes and we will have serious problems. Good government prevents the abuses of power. I think it is possible to be BOTH yourself and part of a larger community/religion. We are social animals. Some sacrifice ofself is necessary.
I agree (with you). The point to make is that you should maintain a degree of individuality within any group you join to maintain your true identity; you shouldn't conform to every last stereotype. If you conform to just the stereotypes you want to, though, can't it be argued that they are actually part of your actual identity, merely because you chose them over the other available stereotypes?
i see that all around me. people going with the flow of the current rather than swimming against it. it is a lot easier to take on a pre-set life. but as you said, in the long run, its better to fight threw all the temptations and be an individual
I don't think they make a conscious decision to live like that; I think they merely lack the intelligence to understand a life of true non-conformity. They are literally incapable of understanding their own identity.
You're very wise. It seems to 'me' that the most important question we can ask ourselves is 'Who am I?' and realizing that we are not anything that we can think of or experience. We are the one who 'has' thoughts,who 'has' experiences, who 'has' a body, and identity is just that, a mental identification with all these things, but we forget that that we are the one identifying with them, and not the thoughts, experiences, or body itself.
I'm can't say with certainty, as the body I currently have hasn't died yet, and if I've ever had past incarnations, I don't remember them. Einstein and physicists and such say energy never dies. I saw this interview with a vietnam vet and he was saying how it really impacted him when he was carrying dead bodies to see that whatever 'life' or animating principle that they had when they were alive, just wasn't there anymore, like they were rag dolls.
it;s my suspicion that consciousness is the animating principle which gives life to life. I believe this consciousness or awareness is the 'I' that we all have, and I imagine it continues after the death of the body. however, time is only experienced through a body with a finite lifespan, I wouldn't assume consciousness, or life itself, is limited to bodies. So 'wheres' and concepts of a time after the existence of a body, are always open to discourse. But basically, I don't know.
Hi, I was reading your exchange with selfminus1 and it seems s/he has no idea what s/he is talking about.
if a person won the gold medal in olympic mens figure skating, then THAT is what he is.
We define ourselves based on our interactions with society. Without the reflection of others, our security in what we perceive ourselves to be does not exist. Thats why we are drawn to look ourselves in the mirror at least from time to time.
what i don't understand is your views on religion. i understand that you refuse to believe in something like that and that's fine, but doesn't freewill allow someone to subscribe themselves to a preset group of ideas? if one chooses to want to believe in something then who are you to tell them they are rotting their sole? i don't think your idea of happiness with correlations to meaning is correct, you say that you will forever be trying to fill that void, but what if religion fills itperfectly?
Everyone sounds so suspicious in these threads. You gave them precious words (for nothing) and they have been so brainwashed in their life they can't see it.
All the term God means is total union, the devine. God can sometime be experienced in moments of great beauty.
you cannot define who you are, therightdecision. Can you define yourself by your thoughts and ideas? No, because you are the one who 'has' or experiences your thoughts and ideas. You also have a body, but 'you' are not your body either. You can only define what you are not. What you are, is undefinable, for all definitions are mental.
So if life has no meaning its ok to kill ourselves or each other? To lie or steal or cheat? If there is no meaning how do we determine right from wrong? How do we punish evil? Does evil exist or is evil just a persons perspective? If there is no meaning then have the past 6 billion years of evolution been a waste of time?
i agree we can barlry transend the emotion.idologic,responsibility..of gaining full awareness over time such that the path we venture is invaribly tainted,stained by it ,though thought to deeply,finding youreself ferther down the rabbithole will find no cure , every question comes from within us and every answer lies within us we are not the question or the answer but the unknowing transition of thought between a+b so lets enjoy the ride even if you have been brainwashed by relegion breakfree(u)
I like that you think about truth. I'm a christian but I see in the bible where Jesus is upset that people aren't using their brains and judging what's right and wrong but going to the local government instead. The bible says to always pursue truth, and that all truth is the Lords. It's not a threat for anyone to listen to anyone else since any truth will lead you ultimately to God. its dangerous to listen to mankind speak to an individual about what his life means, or what its purpose is. <3
yes, agreed, such as this man who is doing a video to teach other men on the meaning of life.
Sorry, but he is misleading the youth of tomorrow. I could be his antithesis, and am pleased to say that I am happy in being a seeker... When I am fulfilled, I set out to find new meaning to synthesize to the old. For us to stop seeking would create a monopoly for those who have already attained enlightenment to enslave those who gave up searching. VIEWERS PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR QUEST FOR MEANING.
thank you for saying the things that i know (or believe i know). thank you for saying the words that have trapped in my mind and couldn't get past my lips. keep doing this.
nm. just said no god. Must be good having all the answers, if he knows so goddamn much and this is it, why not enterprise or at least reach more people with his "message". another turdburgler forcing his truths onto others.
saying something so matter of factly just condtradicted his own "find your own truth message"
he makes sense sometimes, but I don't agree with him completely.
kids, don't use drugs. but identity is not an illusion. doctors, police, judges all have an identity to uphold and that is an identity of authority. without that illusion, they would not have enough esteem to do their jobs and demand the respect of all us defiant people in this "free" society.
hey man, just wondering whether you had heard about neuroplasticity ? It is the definitive rule recently acknowledged by the science community, whereby the brain is in essence "plastic" and can be moulded and repatterned in various ways, thus resulting in medical breakthroughs - congenially blind able to see, and social problems such as specific sexual tastes due to pornography, and the uncontrollable nature of addiction. It explains similar things such as patternised religious behaviour etc ! !
so, when you pop a kid, that just to make you happy, for your own pleasure, or you pop a kid so he can cary on the life, cuz if weve got ability to pop offscpring, there must be meaning in that. We're not here jsut to make our self happy, and die in extasy. You cover alot of good points though.
Man, I hate Catholicism. I was born in a country where catholic indoctrination is mandatory in school, unless your parents agree to go through a long, ardous and humiliating process to get you unsubscribed, so to speak, from religious lessons. When I was 13, It took me a loong time to get my parents to sign the permit, and then I had to go to hell and back to actually convince the school staff that this fucking piece of paper is not a result of forgery. But it was sooo worth it :D
I understand your disdain for Catholicism, but not all religions are the same. There is a place for religion in life - this is why there has been religions even before Christianity.
For me it probably does... makes me lazy as fuck; which is why I avoid them. But many successful and intelligent people twice my age are long term drug addicts. So really It just depends on the person.
It costs money to join a synagogue? $100b worth of collections /yr from American churches? Good grief!
Anyway, I'll never understand the logic in 99% of charitable (money) donations. Help the starving in Africa for £3/mo? Dissolve the IMF and World Bank, and allow the countries to industrialise so I won't have to.
The whole world is a big business. All Christians, ignore most of the teachings of Christ; how fucked up is that? Get them young and bend their minds. Slaves perform better when they believe they are free. Manipulation replaces education.
This man has definitely got a great way of thinking. More than the content, I am glad to find that this type of thought process is practiced. That's really the key.
Very good video, very liberating. I am finally starting to see the light again, thankfully its not too late for me. I actually knew all these all along, just that family, schools, etc clog up ones mind with all their bullshit. Thanks Stef!
Nicely done! Unfortunately, 99% of all humans just accept the false pretenses passed on to them by their parents, society, mass media, government, and religion (I am not opposed to religion in any way, but I am opposed to the way that many people use religion as an excuse for exploitation). Start thinking for yourself, snap out of the trance you are in, and WAKE UP PEOPLE!
I would also advise people not to cling to other thinkers and let them do all the thinking for them (like so many people do with stef). Obviously stef is still clinging to the religious concept of free will and has already sacrificed intellectual honesty and his credibility for it.
the 1st thing I understood in our society was this "that is not me" ..."I don't want any of it" while society is telling and forcing me to be some corporate slave with a flag false pride of some fucked up nation ....
Stef, this really made me think about how pre-fabricated identities affect social interaction with not only strangers but in families. Like in an encounter the police, you might not say what you normally would to someone trying to extort you because you have to take on the pre-fabricated "law-abiding citizen" identity to avoid possible arrest or further harassment, and the policeman's job is to take on the pre-fabricated "police officer" identity.
It would really be funny if police came up to you like your buddy and were themselves a nice guy. "I'm sorry about this, bud but you really shouldn't be speeding"
If they were like that, I wouldn't have to be all "yes sir, officer, sir". LOL
I understand your logic, and don't see why someone has voted you -1. I will +1 to counter the vote... "and have a nice day" ;)
Excellent Stefan,for me,your best video yet.I think a lot of unwitting parents pass on their "drugs" to their children.Following sports teams to the point of worship and endless hours of watching TV are just two examples.Years spent on these "artificial highs" takes away the time that could have been spent educating oneself to realise potential and therefore finding contentment from self-achievment.I write from experience.
Thanks again for your video's, I've been watching a few lately, and they are all like a smack in my face to wake me up. It really worked. It set me free.
I have always kind of looking at meaning as circumstantial and temporary. Maybe life is the connection of perceived meaningful events. Those who look at life as a whole in terms of meaning will only end up confused and discouraged.
There is one thing that should be attacked eavem nore directly. That is the form of thinking and usig the frazes such as "discovering/finding yourself, who you really are". Just by saying that you automaticly implicate that there is something that is "more you" than you are now. That there is a predefined identity to be actualized, a destiny to be forfilled, that there is a "You" waiting to be discovered.
(I'll try to post it in sequals, hope you don't find it rude.)
I like your rethoric style, and your motivation for this work eaven more.
Of course this is nothing new, but it needs to be said again and again, because most people are not confronted with it (the problem of their own life). And for those of us who are, it is a good refresher in a non-professional language.
I'm a little too smart for those common identities like sport fan or nationalist but I'm somehow unable to be not addicted to something or another. But currently it's virtually free online games. It's a real addiction and it gives me another identity. No bills really.
any time we take recourse to boosting our egos with some (pre)fabricated value, we are cheating on ourselves, and on life itself. we have been robbed of authentic self esteem in the process of 'socialisation,' and once we have accepted falsehoods as part of our identities they can become hard to recognize. false identities can be like an invisible shield making yourself invisible to yourself and others. the mummification of our authentic selves can make us 'invulnerable' - inside a death-trap.
That was a wonderful ending, Stefan. I wish you would've remained serious, instead of sniggering and bowing out. That last line was almost a clarion call to even stop psychotherapy. I loved your ending message.
Religion is good business. Just look at Scientology. The adherents of that particular body of nonsense were even told by their saviour, L.Ron Hubbard himself, that the best way to get rich is to create your own religion. Which is just what he did.
It would be something like, I'm about to buy a car from you and I tell you the cheque I have is worthless and will bounce, but after handing it to you I say, 'Oh no no, it wont bounce. It's a real cheque.' and you believing me.
This kind of conscience is hard to see on people.
To achieve this understanding the person must travel to a very hard journey of self discovery, and for most people its hard to be themselves. Becoz their true self is weak. And ugly. And not interesting to the society.
"a day without a stefbot video is a day not lived!"
This is how religions get started. Stefbot is a wise human, but just a human. Don't become too dependant on his videos. To do that would be to miss his very point I think.
That said, excellent video series so far. It's actually helped me see a few things more clearly. Things I had not seen before, or had sub-consciously been avoiding. Thank you.
What the hell happened at the end? Did you remember a funny joke or something? ^_-
Laoch111 1 week ago
thank you stefan, you have changed my self in so many ways. you have made me a better me :) i am so happy.
johnosstreeter 2 months ago
Hey man... Your videos really hit home with me... But I think about it (I'm an "american") Nothing is real. Everything here is false idintity. You can't get away from it. I don't want to be american. I don't want to be any of these things. But its like you HAVE to be. You said you don't want people to go down that path.. I'm 17 and I'm already withered away and destroyed. I have no idea who I am.
DamnEmoKids 2 months ago
What is your identity? Father/Husband?
You are not paying for your wife/kid? They are your drug.
Stop pushing your nihilism as objective truth.
HailEurope 2 months ago
All starts with fearful parents raising fearful children to get swallowed by a fearful society that embraces religion and the fear for the unknown to have control over humanity.
chelilandia 4 months ago
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chelilandia 4 months ago
...yes, but who are you? who am I then?
betolimoun 4 months ago
+1ed
betolimoun 4 months ago
liked very much, BUT "find your true identity" reminds me of the Zeitgeist and the idea of burning all money of the world and organising people to profit themselves without money. What do I mean? If all money would be destroyed and the new Zeitgeist solution "works" - people will start the process of ellaborating money again. The same with "true identity" - the human psy is that people like to pay to hear what they are. And there'll always be "milkers and "milked". Always.
Damynine 5 months ago
at the 10:41 mark, you start dropping nukes. I love it. This is me at a cocktail party: a friendly someone asks about a brand of beer or how my week was, and before I know it, I'm saying a version of this video from 10:41 - 11:26. "there's no God.. politics is not going to set you free. It's just people with guns." I love the look on your face at 11:02 after you say "there's no chosen people"-- it says, 'this truth sounds pretty bleak when it's put into words." I relate to this so well.
plarfusa 7 months ago
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For anyone who wants to know the true meaning of life, please go check out the scribd website that is listed on my channel.
DreamsofMajesty 8 months ago
At night, when all the world's asleep,
The questions run so deep,
For such a simple man.
Won't you please, please
Tell me what we've learned
I know it sounds absurd
Please tell me who I am!
Who I am!! Who I am!! Who I am!!
Dodec84 8 months ago
Its just great when someone can takes what you have already been thinking about in your head as a jumbled mess of questions and lays it out as a very solid, rational conversation. Great thoughts, very interesting as I have been struggling to find a meaning to life. I have much more to think on now! Thanks.
TheGreenSteam 10 months ago
I think that finding something external that is close to your genuine authentic you is something good.
Just dont put a label on yourself :)
lejlu 10 months ago
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I think that finding something external that is so to speak "close" to your genuine authentic you, is a good thing.
Just dont take it to far by putting a label on yourself.
lejlu 10 months ago
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lejlu 10 months ago
This video is much better after a large dosing
alistairproductions 11 months ago
This video is truly amazing. Thank you, Stephan.
cycln33 11 months ago
people ask and answer this question, ignorant of the important behind it. Before attempting ask or answer this question.u must understand the important of the answer,and u must be ready to except what u get.In short there is no meaning to life,so people makes up their own meaning of life.so many people with their own meaning of life, Ideas crossed and we have war.the soul purpose of the meaning of life is to unite the people if everyone agree on one meaning of life there will be no war.
ChuckNorris100000 1 year ago
Wouldn't you say parenting also typically fits into this paradigm?
Paralyt1c 1 year ago
@Paralyt1c Everything fits the paradigm of identity. Of course there's people who want to define themselves as parents and live by that. And there's people who want to define themselves as philosophers. But all of these symbols are false. They're just that: symbols. Even a person who wants to define himself as 'a person who does not define himself by any precooked paramenters' is tricking himself. The real trick is to have no attachments at all to reality. Only then will you be free.
holm81 11 months ago
He's got nothing on my meaning of life videos LOL
crud4 1 year ago
More meaningless blather. Ramble on until you reach the bottom of your self-gratifying joy-happiness-virtue-crap spiral.
I would not buy a used car from you. How is that for meaning and illusion? From a rhetorical perspective, you could not even touch the dumbest of pop-shrinks-evangelic inbreeds.
Lots of words about nothing. Your thoughts should remain internal until your develop your thesis. Otherwise, you are just screaming for attention, Mr. Man -Every-Funny-Hat.
mickmizzou 1 year ago
Hmmm, your head is very circleish.
drew335533 1 year ago
Stefbot, do you think that it is possible that there could be a meaning to life, but it is a futile pursuit? Maybe there is meaning, but it is a meaning we will never know and we should not waste what little time we have trying to find it? Maybe knowledge of such meaning would disrupt our lives?
AsianFetishh 1 year ago
there's no governent.. just a bunch of people with guns
haha
Und1ne 1 year ago
Im sorry I stopped around 10:30, and didnt hear the rest. Until I posted the comment.
You are 100% correct. People look at the world around us for the answers to your needs, or ideas. Instead within. So my question to you is HOW DID YOU COME TO THIS CONCLUSION? This doesnt appear out of nowheres, but through an idea, you heard. WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD OF BRAINWASHING? Like I said in my other video AS I AM.
c22dividedby7 1 year ago
Not sure if you realize. But you are supplying the same as religion provides. Its not the money, but the idea of the answers, to life and the meaning of existance. And Im getting the feeling this isnt really about the meaning of life. But the people that live their life through a followed script. You are doing the same putting the ideas into someones head. The human mind is easily manipulated. This is the reason so many people are brainwashed in this world, as I am...
c22dividedby7 1 year ago
Be skeptical of those who try to force objectivity upon you
MRTEED 1 year ago
I was smoking while watching this :/
thoserandomaussies 1 year ago
I like how you laugh at the end because you're telling us who we are, lol
faithm 1 year ago
"You can only be loved for who you truly are". I strongly disagree; one can have unconditional love for another human because we empathize, and we know they exist. We know everyone has their troubles, and needs support. We can love despite identity. Truly love, at that.
faithm 1 year ago
I don't really think any identity ISN'T false.
faithm 1 year ago
it is like you're in my head, speaking my thoughts.
TheJuliusJT 1 year ago
BRILLIANT!
ronpaulspanish 1 year ago 7
thank you
stefbot 1 year ago
stephan is a punk rocker. this is one of the better video's on youtube.
mrbillynelson 2 years ago
Social metaphysics of other peoples' preferences and desires = school & parenting
musicstories 2 years ago
Lol Stef, I love the little laughing fit at the end of your video.
drew335533 2 years ago
Great stuff Stephan. One of the great thinkers of our time.
creamrising 2 years ago
because he may be smarter than u and i, doesn't mean he's entirely correct... nor should we take his words unexamined.
Imadeyalook 1 year ago 9
@Imadeyalook that is true but its hard to argue.
tylerwrodgers 1 year ago
@Imadeyalook or yours
YesEthan 1 year ago
Exactly why I only use marijuana and hallucinogens. No trough at all. Only more and more happiness that lasts! I guess that is only true when you have a rational mind though.
My equation goes a bit like this:
Reason + Hallucinogens = Virtue = Happiness
glopur0 2 years ago
I'm not anti-hallucinogen (I've had a wonderful experience on mushrooms), but the inescapable implication of your post is that you need drugs to be happy. Isn't that - to use stefbots terminology - just another invisible pink unicorn?
Surely the highest form of happiness - the kind that stefbot describes in these videos - is you not needing to add anything (eg. drugs) to your existential equation. Rather, it is you accepting yourself completely as you are...?
garethac81 2 years ago
Note, I said "my equation". You technically don't NEED anything. You don't need to eat or breathe if you don't want to; there may be consequences to these choices, but you certainly don't NEED to do anything.
I use marijuana and hallucinogens because I like them and from my own evidence gathering and research I have found them to be nothing but beneficial mentally and physically. I never said anyone else has to use them or anything like that. Everyone likes different things.
glopur0 2 years ago 11
I agree with you on that ;p
Sivels 2 years ago
@glopur0 ....If you have a few mins. Check out studies from Dr. Daniel Amen very interesting his ideas about brain functions, food for the brain etc.. He shows healthy brains scanned compared to the ones that consume marijuana and hallucinogens substances demonstrating how those DO have a negative effect on brain functions and abilities, and how affect neurons and your pre-frontal cortex. But of course you "Dont have to watch the video" Im simply sharing that info with you. Cheers!
chelilandia 4 months ago
Furthermore, how can you pin down and define "you completely as you are"? You do realize that every 7 years every cell in your body has died and a new one has replaced it, right? I am 21, so I have been 3 completely different people!
glopur0 2 years ago
And lastly, everything that you experience is chemicals in your brain. If you think that not intaking certain kinds of chemicals is better, that's fine, but realize it's no different than deciding not to go to sports games, or not to sky dive, or to not have a child. These are all experiences which induce chemicals reactions in the brain, which cause you to feel things.
glopur0 2 years ago
Well said. garethac81 has no response. I think you put it better than anyone else on the comments, and your perspective should be considered by stefbot. They don't know what they don't know... so I don't think they should try to talk down on something that they don't know about. Weed is a gift from the earth - take advantage. (if people choose not to, it's their loss - more for the rest of us)
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
My main point in my first post, was simply to say that:
hallucinogens + rationality = WIN
hallucinogens + (religion + statism + self-hatred) = EPIC FAIL / BAD TRIP
Rationality is still the key!
glopur0 2 years ago
OMG, I have always been an independant person but I grew up in a cult and avoided making friends with the world. now I am free from that cult and don't know how to relate to others except in my family. I am so lonely. When you say it's like being in a cast and the muscles have withered and your real self is full of discontent. people don't want to know about that and avoid me and I don't trust them. it's a vicious cycle. You said it, Stefen!
bababybwoo 2 years ago 2
Letting down your guard is hard in the complicated society that we now live in. If you were to experience the world 15-20 years ago, you might be able to integrate a little easier.. however, you might just end up falling into one of the handful of other groups available at that time... perhaps punk (the misfits of that day) would have worked out for ya ;)
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
Sir, I strongly disagree with you. Many religions do not directly take money from practitioners and are motivated by a desire to help them be happy. America takes tax money, and gives you back law, order, military safety, consumer safety... We all stop paying our taxes and we will have serious problems. Good government prevents the abuses of power. I think it is possible to be BOTH yourself and part of a larger community/religion. We are social animals. Some sacrifice ofself is necessary.
Schach87Jugador 2 years ago
I agree (with you). The point to make is that you should maintain a degree of individuality within any group you join to maintain your true identity; you shouldn't conform to every last stereotype. If you conform to just the stereotypes you want to, though, can't it be argued that they are actually part of your actual identity, merely because you chose them over the other available stereotypes?
StupidIdiot12345 2 years ago
Well said.. this seems to be on the right track (y) +1
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
i see that all around me. people going with the flow of the current rather than swimming against it. it is a lot easier to take on a pre-set life. but as you said, in the long run, its better to fight threw all the temptations and be an individual
kylesmeister 2 years ago
I don't think they make a conscious decision to live like that; I think they merely lack the intelligence to understand a life of true non-conformity. They are literally incapable of understanding their own identity.
StupidIdiot12345 2 years ago
find happiness where ever you are, not what you have achieved
ShiroZuku 2 years ago
You're very wise. It seems to 'me' that the most important question we can ask ourselves is 'Who am I?' and realizing that we are not anything that we can think of or experience. We are the one who 'has' thoughts,who 'has' experiences, who 'has' a body, and identity is just that, a mental identification with all these things, but we forget that that we are the one identifying with them, and not the thoughts, experiences, or body itself.
SelfMinusI 2 years ago
And what happens with "you" ( "you" meaning that awareness or consciousness that identifies itself with thoughts, experiences and the body) ?
TheRightDecision 2 years ago
When "you" die?
TheRightDecision 2 years ago
I'm can't say with certainty, as the body I currently have hasn't died yet, and if I've ever had past incarnations, I don't remember them. Einstein and physicists and such say energy never dies. I saw this interview with a vietnam vet and he was saying how it really impacted him when he was carrying dead bodies to see that whatever 'life' or animating principle that they had when they were alive, just wasn't there anymore, like they were rag dolls.
SelfMinusI 2 years ago
it;s my suspicion that consciousness is the animating principle which gives life to life. I believe this consciousness or awareness is the 'I' that we all have, and I imagine it continues after the death of the body. however, time is only experienced through a body with a finite lifespan, I wouldn't assume consciousness, or life itself, is limited to bodies. So 'wheres' and concepts of a time after the existence of a body, are always open to discourse. But basically, I don't know.
SelfMinusI 2 years ago
Nice response, thanks
So, what do you believe in?
TheRightDecision 2 years ago
Hi, I was reading your exchange with selfminus1 and it seems s/he has no idea what s/he is talking about.
if a person won the gold medal in olympic mens figure skating, then THAT is what he is.
We define ourselves based on our interactions with society. Without the reflection of others, our security in what we perceive ourselves to be does not exist. Thats why we are drawn to look ourselves in the mirror at least from time to time.
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
what i don't understand is your views on religion. i understand that you refuse to believe in something like that and that's fine, but doesn't freewill allow someone to subscribe themselves to a preset group of ideas? if one chooses to want to believe in something then who are you to tell them they are rotting their sole? i don't think your idea of happiness with correlations to meaning is correct, you say that you will forever be trying to fill that void, but what if religion fills itperfectly?
rrush2214 2 years ago
Everyone sounds so suspicious in these threads. You gave them precious words (for nothing) and they have been so brainwashed in their life they can't see it.
All the term God means is total union, the devine. God can sometime be experienced in moments of great beauty.
This guy makes sense.
Halboy10 2 years ago
He makes some sense in some ways... gotta take the words of another man with a grain of salt. You know what they say about free advice? ;)
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
How do I define who I am?
TheRightDecision 2 years ago
you cannot define who you are, therightdecision. Can you define yourself by your thoughts and ideas? No, because you are the one who 'has' or experiences your thoughts and ideas. You also have a body, but 'you' are not your body either. You can only define what you are not. What you are, is undefinable, for all definitions are mental.
SelfMinusI 2 years ago
So if life has no meaning its ok to kill ourselves or each other? To lie or steal or cheat? If there is no meaning how do we determine right from wrong? How do we punish evil? Does evil exist or is evil just a persons perspective? If there is no meaning then have the past 6 billion years of evolution been a waste of time?
JustinS87 2 years ago
simple answer, no, your an idiot.
steveisjesus 2 years ago
they were only questions justin was asking. and good questions. i have to wonder about the people that gave it thumbs down.
99lions 2 years ago
Amazing that you have brought this into the light and you received no support, yet -2 votes plus a comment from a moron.
Congratulations, you are of the few xD
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
I used to use the term "Spiritual Masturbation" for the identities.
D3mi4n 3 years ago
i agree we can barlry transend the emotion.idologic,responsibility..of gaining full awareness over time such that the path we venture is invaribly tainted,stained by it ,though thought to deeply,finding youreself ferther down the rabbithole will find no cure , every question comes from within us and every answer lies within us we are not the question or the answer but the unknowing transition of thought between a+b so lets enjoy the ride even if you have been brainwashed by relegion breakfree(u)
mark24six2 3 years ago
I like that you think about truth. I'm a christian but I see in the bible where Jesus is upset that people aren't using their brains and judging what's right and wrong but going to the local government instead. The bible says to always pursue truth, and that all truth is the Lords. It's not a threat for anyone to listen to anyone else since any truth will lead you ultimately to God. its dangerous to listen to mankind speak to an individual about what his life means, or what its purpose is. <3
faithm 3 years ago
yes, agreed, such as this man who is doing a video to teach other men on the meaning of life.
Sorry, but he is misleading the youth of tomorrow. I could be his antithesis, and am pleased to say that I am happy in being a seeker... When I am fulfilled, I set out to find new meaning to synthesize to the old. For us to stop seeking would create a monopoly for those who have already attained enlightenment to enslave those who gave up searching. VIEWERS PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR QUEST FOR MEANING.
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
Arigatoo!
magichandpuppet 3 years ago
thank you for saying the things that i know (or believe i know). thank you for saying the words that have trapped in my mind and couldn't get past my lips. keep doing this.
solivant 3 years ago
I think you provide a vary good point however I feel these predetermined identities are unavoidable.
leotuber 3 years ago
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is this guy buddahist or atheist?
nm. just said no god. Must be good having all the answers, if he knows so goddamn much and this is it, why not enterprise or at least reach more people with his "message". another turdburgler forcing his truths onto others.
saying something so matter of factly just condtradicted his own "find your own truth message"
projectslo50 3 years ago
Nice mouth.
stefbot 3 years ago 6
i see where you're coming from, and i dont so much agree with him, but he's not forcing his truths on anyone.
faithm 3 years ago
i think he tells his opinion too well...
he makes sense sometimes, but I don't agree with him completely.
kids, don't use drugs. but identity is not an illusion. doctors, police, judges all have an identity to uphold and that is an identity of authority. without that illusion, they would not have enough esteem to do their jobs and demand the respect of all us defiant people in this "free" society.
I beg your mercy as the *devils advocate* xD
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
@projectslo50
You are acting like this video is somehow threatens who you are.
dkleitsch 1 year ago
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@projectslo50
You are acting like this video somehow threatens who you are.
dkleitsch 1 year ago
hey man, just wondering whether you had heard about neuroplasticity ? It is the definitive rule recently acknowledged by the science community, whereby the brain is in essence "plastic" and can be moulded and repatterned in various ways, thus resulting in medical breakthroughs - congenially blind able to see, and social problems such as specific sexual tastes due to pornography, and the uncontrollable nature of addiction. It explains similar things such as patternised religious behaviour etc ! !
justlunyproductions 3 years ago
you talk funny!
davefox72 3 years ago
so, when you pop a kid, that just to make you happy, for your own pleasure, or you pop a kid so he can cary on the life, cuz if weve got ability to pop offscpring, there must be meaning in that. We're not here jsut to make our self happy, and die in extasy. You cover alot of good points though.
arktikgraywolf 3 years ago
Man, I hate Catholicism. I was born in a country where catholic indoctrination is mandatory in school, unless your parents agree to go through a long, ardous and humiliating process to get you unsubscribed, so to speak, from religious lessons. When I was 13, It took me a loong time to get my parents to sign the permit, and then I had to go to hell and back to actually convince the school staff that this fucking piece of paper is not a result of forgery. But it was sooo worth it :D
PeterTheEvilBastard 3 years ago 2
I understand your disdain for Catholicism, but not all religions are the same. There is a place for religion in life - this is why there has been religions even before Christianity.
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
I'm a fan of philosophy!
Redvisorman 3 years ago
drugs make you an idiot.
Victorprossartcom 3 years ago
For me it probably does... makes me lazy as fuck; which is why I avoid them. But many successful and intelligent people twice my age are long term drug addicts. So really It just depends on the person.
anakin005 3 years ago
Agreed. I know marijuana users who actually get switched on from the drug vs. getting lazy.
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
drugs make you cool.
realworldplayer 3 years ago 2
It costs money to join a synagogue? $100b worth of collections /yr from American churches? Good grief!
Anyway, I'll never understand the logic in 99% of charitable (money) donations. Help the starving in Africa for £3/mo? Dissolve the IMF and World Bank, and allow the countries to industrialise so I won't have to.
camb702 3 years ago
Great, great, wonderful video. Everytime I speak to someone, I see (and hear) how true it is.
PourLaLiberte1 3 years ago
The whole world is a big business. All Christians, ignore most of the teachings of Christ; how fucked up is that? Get them young and bend their minds. Slaves perform better when they believe they are free. Manipulation replaces education.
rollsthepaul 3 years ago
This man has definitely got a great way of thinking. More than the content, I am glad to find that this type of thought process is practiced. That's really the key.
BabyHominid 3 years ago 2
You are wonderful :) nice speech. Happy new years. I like your videos.
MaikUniversum 3 years ago
Very good video, very liberating. I am finally starting to see the light again, thankfully its not too late for me. I actually knew all these all along, just that family, schools, etc clog up ones mind with all their bullshit. Thanks Stef!
nelsonoso 3 years ago
Nicely done! Unfortunately, 99% of all humans just accept the false pretenses passed on to them by their parents, society, mass media, government, and religion (I am not opposed to religion in any way, but I am opposed to the way that many people use religion as an excuse for exploitation). Start thinking for yourself, snap out of the trance you are in, and WAKE UP PEOPLE!
pattonbox76 3 years ago
I would also advise people not to cling to other thinkers and let them do all the thinking for them (like so many people do with stef). Obviously stef is still clinging to the religious concept of free will and has already sacrificed intellectual honesty and his credibility for it.
TheDrifter55 3 years ago
It's like people snap out of one trance, only to fall into another one and they go around thinking they're 'awake.'
TheDrifter55 3 years ago
So, our social identity is a cloak we wear around our inner-selves.
atypicalguy 3 years ago
the 1st thing I understood in our society was this "that is not me" ..."I don't want any of it" while society is telling and forcing me to be some corporate slave with a flag false pride of some fucked up nation ....
LastReplaySC 3 years ago 2
what is god for you? or if you wish who he is?
capcomentier 3 years ago
I reject superstition. :)
stefbot 3 years ago
Aren't you a free willer?
TheDrifter55 3 years ago
Yes. Determinism is a superstition.
stefbot 3 years ago
I understand that religion can be hard to let go but I expected better from you.
TheDrifter55 3 years ago
Stef, this really made me think about how pre-fabricated identities affect social interaction with not only strangers but in families. Like in an encounter the police, you might not say what you normally would to someone trying to extort you because you have to take on the pre-fabricated "law-abiding citizen" identity to avoid possible arrest or further harassment, and the policeman's job is to take on the pre-fabricated "police officer" identity.
andrewh817 2 years ago
It would really be funny if police came up to you like your buddy and were themselves a nice guy. "I'm sorry about this, bud but you really shouldn't be speeding"
If they were like that, I wouldn't have to be all "yes sir, officer, sir". LOL
I understand your logic, and don't see why someone has voted you -1. I will +1 to counter the vote... "and have a nice day" ;)
Imadeyalook 1 year ago
Excellent Stefan,for me,your best video yet.I think a lot of unwitting parents pass on their "drugs" to their children.Following sports teams to the point of worship and endless hours of watching TV are just two examples.Years spent on these "artificial highs" takes away the time that could have been spent educating oneself to realise potential and therefore finding contentment from self-achievment.I write from experience.
ConwyCastle 3 years ago
brilliant
ThePirateGrog 3 years ago
Thanks again for your video's, I've been watching a few lately, and they are all like a smack in my face to wake me up. It really worked. It set me free.
YaZZnl 3 years ago
I have always kind of looking at meaning as circumstantial and temporary. Maybe life is the connection of perceived meaningful events. Those who look at life as a whole in terms of meaning will only end up confused and discouraged.
LovexandxRage 3 years ago
A lot of good points Stefan. Thanks for sharing another good video. -f
FrankenBosey 3 years ago
ugh, now it would be in reverse order. Screw it, i give up. Check out existentialism and Sartre!
Cheers!
Bobyslav 3 years ago
There is one thing that should be attacked eavem nore directly. That is the form of thinking and usig the frazes such as "discovering/finding yourself, who you really are". Just by saying that you automaticly implicate that there is something that is "more you" than you are now. That there is a predefined identity to be actualized, a destiny to be forfilled, that there is a "You" waiting to be discovered.
Bobyslav 3 years ago
(I'll try to post it in sequals, hope you don't find it rude.)
I like your rethoric style, and your motivation for this work eaven more.
Of course this is nothing new, but it needs to be said again and again, because most people are not confronted with it (the problem of their own life). And for those of us who are, it is a good refresher in a non-professional language.
Bobyslav 3 years ago
Damn this youtube, i wrote a nice 1500 word comment on existentialism and it won't let me post it!
Bobyslav 3 years ago
Break it up into a series of replies. -f
FrankenBosey 3 years ago
Spoke too soon. Looks like you figured it out.
FrankenBosey 3 years ago
there is 500 characters limit.
MaikUniversum 3 years ago
and i smoke also.
newexperiment 3 years ago
I'm a little too smart for those common identities like sport fan or nationalist but I'm somehow unable to be not addicted to something or another. But currently it's virtually free online games. It's a real addiction and it gives me another identity. No bills really.
newexperiment 3 years ago
love that whole conpeople "swarming in" hand motion--- haha
great post, i'm looking forward to the next one
i suppose it does require an individual creative mind to escape the prefabricated beliefs that is sent out to the herd
bowlerdude 3 years ago
Could you handle a religious therapist? I'd pretty much walk out the door.
newexperiment 3 years ago
any time we take recourse to boosting our egos with some (pre)fabricated value, we are cheating on ourselves, and on life itself. we have been robbed of authentic self esteem in the process of 'socialisation,' and once we have accepted falsehoods as part of our identities they can become hard to recognize. false identities can be like an invisible shield making yourself invisible to yourself and others. the mummification of our authentic selves can make us 'invulnerable' - inside a death-trap.
cmoleon 3 years ago
Congratulations on the baby. I hope one day the same will happen to me! =)
visioninverse 3 years ago
Okay, but does this apply to Amway?
As a social exercise, I talked to my parents (age 74 & 83)about this and they thought I had flipped out.
"Oh Barry," my mother said, "you've always been such a far out thinker ..."
Yeah, they're having none of it. But I am.
Thanks a lot, Stef.
barrywilliamsmb 3 years ago
That was a wonderful ending, Stefan. I wish you would've remained serious, instead of sniggering and bowing out. That last line was almost a clarion call to even stop psychotherapy. I loved your ending message.
stephenetienne 3 years ago
I myself found psychotherapy enormously helpful, I hope you will stick with it if you have a good therapist. :)
stefbot 3 years ago
Personally, I don't go to therapy.
stephenetienne 3 years ago
Maybe it's time to open a Synagogue!
qtronman 3 years ago
Religion is good business. Just look at Scientology. The adherents of that particular body of nonsense were even told by their saviour, L.Ron Hubbard himself, that the best way to get rich is to create your own religion. Which is just what he did.
It would be something like, I'm about to buy a car from you and I tell you the cheque I have is worthless and will bounce, but after handing it to you I say, 'Oh no no, it wont bounce. It's a real cheque.' and you believing me.
Textra1 3 years ago
Religion. Good for their wallet, bad for your 'soul'.
Textra1 3 years ago
Congratulations on the birth of your new baby!
Adipatus 3 years ago
Stef, congratulations. I'm sure you'll be a great father.
I am intrigued at how she will turn out, considering your ideology - not that she is an experiment! 8D
Congrats again, and good luck with getting enough sleep!.
RPFS2008 3 years ago
Wow dude this video triggered some thought, thank you.
weilandjason 3 years ago
I finally figured it out, he has the Phil Collins early 90's sort of look. Just playing with you while you are getting in my head. Thank you.
weilandjason 3 years ago
Stef all u said sounds sad, but its true...
This kind of conscience is hard to see on people.
To achieve this understanding the person must travel to a very hard journey of self discovery, and for most people its hard to be themselves. Becoz their true self is weak. And ugly. And not interesting to the society.
ericgouw 3 years ago
Congrats on the kid!
Nice video btw. Kinda funny how you duck off the screen at the end. *Throws shoe*
DotPaulish 3 years ago
Haha, good one!
choobala 3 years ago
I would love to get a list of literature you have read.
Great vid =D
chardoc89 3 years ago
me too
erdal0 3 years ago
How comes I always get labeled a non conformist amongst friends? Congrats on the new one and excellent videos as always.
proithero 3 years ago
a day without a stefbot video is a day not lived!
erdal0 3 years ago 2
LOL
TheRightDecision 3 years ago 3
He's good, but not that good.
DotPaulish 3 years ago
I agree! The man is truly great. I was his friend from the first video I watched of his!
jerami101 3 years ago 2
"a day without a stefbot video is a day not lived!"
This is how religions get started. Stefbot is a wise human, but just a human. Don't become too dependant on his videos. To do that would be to miss his very point I think.
That said, excellent video series so far. It's actually helped me see a few things more clearly. Things I had not seen before, or had sub-consciously been avoiding. Thank you.
Textra1 3 years ago 3
i didnt take my self serious like you when i said that
erdal0 3 years ago
most of what is passed off as humor is an expression/coverup of deficiencies.
this does not preclude the existence of funny remarks, and misunderstandings. most misunderstandings are an expression/coverup of deficiencies.
cmoleon 3 years ago
I always have thought this from an early age, philosophy is incredibly a natural process
calvinjaramillo 3 years ago 4
im curious where you copied that off from?
erdal0 3 years ago
this is what i have learned by observation and experience, so i guess you might say i learned it from life - or even, from you. curiosity is great.
cmoleon 3 years ago
can't wait for 3 !!
roccman2003 3 years ago
yey!
TheRightDecision 3 years ago
finally!
bigcatz4455 3 years ago