Why are they so obessed with you? This census is a waste of tax payers money peoples circumstances change so the information from that will be quickly out of date rednering this census useless
I think that I will tell the Census people that I will fill one in but, the fee will be £500 ! This must be paid on the day `they` come round to my house with this form. If they don`t agree to this then I will send them my usual. MR .Robert Soul ! It`s always funny when I get a letter to - Mr . R. Soul ! I once claimed my Name was Anne and that I was a `Black Muslim Woman` , they actually believed it. I received a letter to MS Anne Ahmad , I sent it back saying that she`d moved .
paperwork, democratism, communism, common law, country, countries, affidavits, uniform commercial code, oaths, jurisdiction, constitution, bill of rights, blacks law dict, legality, inalienable/unalienable, freeman, human, civil, criminal, sovereign, acts, statutes, national, international treaties, legislation, etc, r they not all hearsay, fictitious & ambiguous?, isn't it just a meeting of the minds?.type in imbatman57 in youtube & talkshoe.com.
I'm glad to see more people like myself exist . It really does lighten my spirit when i see people challenge the fraudulent system,instead of doing what we're told we must do.
So, how do they do that .If there's 10 years between each census,how does the census manage to help allocate funds for those that don't exist yet and will be born/die in that 10 year window ?
Exactly they can't ,it can't .So that makes it UTTER NONSENSE !
@61shirley - bolshy northerners refusing the census ? They think they're clever. The Census Office needs the info, whoever is in power. You're not clever by refusing to do the census. The info actually helps you, but you're too stupid to realise.
@kealyc1 your to stupid to realise the census will ever benefit you. Your to stupid to realise that government who threaten people to hand over details is a very bad sign, and history shows that. be a man and stand up for your self, stop being childish
@LinkinTheory69 Yes, it is flying. No, it isn't an insect. Unless of course, you and 61shirley live someplace where flies are giant, triangular, metallic objects that reflect the sun's rays.
lol The guy said what I commented yesterday - the census is there to help local councils (and the Government that you don't trust :D) do their communal planning and stuff. Am I brainwashed then or... am I a Borg (from Star Trek :D)? :-)))
Huh... You're not obliged to take part, yes. But would it hurt if you did take part? We are individuals, yes, and everyone deserves respect (to some extent) but we do live in a society after all. Do you always do what you're... obliged to do? I think not. :-)
@Fuckoffcho If i thought the census was gonna benefit society i would gladly fill it in. There is enough evidence for me that shows the government is incompetent and is not working for the peoples best interests
you should ignore eny contact with theses people they will imprison @ the drop of a hat ??its fines and imprisonment that get millions outa the por every year beleive me when i say what will you do when you open the dor and they are there with guns and dogs cos buy not filling in the form you are comiting a inprisonable offence ?believe me when i say have no contact ?they know who you are ??just ignore them its hard for them to get a warant to kick ya dor in if they have had no contact with you
Are you aware you recorded some type of craft at :40 in your video?? I watched a few census videos prior to this one, so I wasn't exactly searching for ufos. But, be that as it may, you have inadvertently captured a very good image of one. I clicked play and pause over and over at :40 and you can see it fly from the right side of the census taker's head to the left at an INCREDIBLE speed. I was able to see three still shots of it just clicking the play button. Will you update us please?
@Onlymanolos your right, i didnt notice that, thanks. I also have another video with a ufo in that i didnt notice till some pointed it out. its on the video called "Contrails Chemtrails and Squarepusher" @ 2:33, see if you can spot it
@Onlymanolos No i wasnt lol i seen it now though and that is interesting as its way too fast for a plane...wonder if its one of them rods or just a ufo...anyway good find
@61shirley No, we looked at each frame. It is definitely metallic. I'm not saying it is an extraterrestrial craft. I am saying it is an unidentifiable flying object, metallic and flies faster than any known man made object.
@2010butchd i shouldnt talk to them your right, i try and get into some sort of chat with them to see what they say. I havent had a pink letter yet, will keep an eye out tho
@61shirley i was getting warning letter with THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING written in pink i got them about 30 times now its stopped but never admit you are the householder and dont give name but as i did i just didnt open the door
@61shirley funny how the goverment gave work to and arms dealer in another country to run it anyhow it seems they wasted money as millions didnt fill it in
take note of the immediate language such as whats your name sir?
This is an order, someone can issue an order but there is no obligation to fullfill it, you dont have to start talking like a robot also and say is that an order? do you know orders generate bills?
just recognise what hes doing and relate as you would if a friend attempted to give you an out of the blue order, however you would naturally respond.
Good for you. It is very interesting to see this. I am waiting for a visit from these guys myself; they have come twice when I was out. The government can't expect us to think that our information is really going to be used for our own benefit when they have given £150 million to an armaments manufacturer to administer it. They must have known that loads of people wouldn't stand for it.
"The Office for National Statistics (ONS) website points out that the UK is "an active participant" in an EU Census Legislation Task Force. In 2008 the European Parliament approved a Council Census Regulation.The information gathered in the 2011 census will be shared across all 27 Member States of the EU. "
the census man that came to your door says lockheed martin would not be involved with all information yeh right abet they not.they certainly not getten my info all occupiers stick togerther.peace
Ok Cheers Dan. Just saw your vid of the five-oh at your door. Absolutely farcical. His foot was definitely over your mantle, glad they went away with their tales between their legs.
the lockheed stuff really doesnt bother me. i just dont want to do it and i wont, afterall they (the gov) can get ALL my information pretty easily. they came round when only my missus was in and she said we hadn't done it coz the dog chewed it (old excuse but the truth) so they gave another one.
if they come again i'll say ive done it and nothing else, i want to cover my back as you never know
I refused to send back my census and the census bods called my mobile and left me a message because my twatting landlord told them my name and contact number probably thinking he was doing a good turn. Do I have any chance to avoid a court appearance if I continue not answering their calls now that they have my name?
Thanks for that. I'm quite ready to say I refuse to fill it on the Lockheed principle and call their bluff whether they want to prosecute. I was asking more as to whether now they have been given my name whether they have more grounds to get me. Legal fiction and all that.
@lozinja please don't use the word refuse, always say you are objecting on the grounds of Lockheed martin being arms dealers and your conscience wouldn't allow you to collude with arms dealers. Keep it simple. Hope that helps.
@sarasez1955 Cheers for that. So far they have not actually spoken to me and so I have not confirmed my name. I will evade them yet and then will use your tact if it comes to it. I spoke to a census worker at another address and he said as well as a fine you can get a criminal record. Threats to be sure but I think with the amount of people not co-operating it will be too embarrassing for them to persue this in court.
@lozinja Never tell them you are refusing, it's important you use the word "objecting" to Lockheed arms dealers Martin. Make sure you get them to write on their form that you are objecting, because they have been told to put refusing, big big difference. I handed them a statement at my door, stating that if I get a summons (invite), I will not attend, and neither will I pay a fine. So the ball is in their court lol.
@lozinja your landlord stepped on dangerous ground here, his responsability is to the property, and unless you're in breach of your tennency agreement, he has no right to infringe on any aspect of your life or personal choices. This is a data protection issue for sure, he had no right giving any of your details to anyone.
@thewr0ngchild He is a well meaning but prize-buffoon who's poshness means he complies with any bureaucracy without thinking. But you are right he shouldn't have done it. Next time I see him I will have to do my best Ray Winstone and 'ave a word' with him about what happens to a grass. Ha ha!
Now that is what census taker should be like. The goof they sent to my place thought he was rambo and would not leave after being asked four times to do so and then went all nutty on me forcing his way into my home which I beat him back out the door for and they have the nerve to charge me with felonious assault even when a witness inside told the police what occurred and the damage inside the house proved the altercation took place inside the house. Come to find out the man has mental disorders
@61shirley they wouldn't have got past me without a boot to the knob, then if they did, they'd be standing face to face with my six foot long haired husband :)
I dont understand, you blatently told him you were the occupier, and you refused, and he put it down as a refusal, by the look of it, Youre definitely gonna get the enforcement officers, or whatever you call them, round your house next. You should of just ignored the dicks, but he was a nice guy, wasnt he.
@STU8O88Y i can tell them what ever i like as long as i dont give them my name, then ive entered into contract with them. i try and get into a chat with them to see what they say
@61shirley Thanks for your reply. You seem like a nice guy and i know what you mean, but it's a waste of time being civil and knowing your rights, they're not there to make friends, so just ignore them like i have, and i've had no problems, no threatening letters, nothing. This has all been one big lesson for me, there's nothing to fear.
Well done. I prepared a statement and handed it to the field officer stating my position. You can read it on facebook on my wall. Sarah Ledsom. Millions are "objecting" not refusing , to Lockheed Martin the arms dealers. So good on you. Let us know how you get on and I'll do the same.
I told mine to note down I was removing ONS and any company working with them on the cesus, implied right of access to my property, very handy for when they try and send the next level person around.
Great job man i just had one knock at my door but was not expecting her:( wish i had recorded it. as i opened the door realised it was census said "no thanks" then closed the door but then she put her foot in the way so i could not close easily! then told her she was tresspassing and forced the door shut:) be ready next time,she also came back and posted something she wrote on.
@61shirley yeah i was going to go down the route of just ignoring them i will video next time and try and be calm like you. they will be back if i have not done it so the note says:)
He says "its not involving the government or the council or anybody its just national statistics" then he goes on to say its so funds can be allocated to local governments, So who is allocating the funds and to whom are the being allocated? Oh yeh that'll be the Government allocating to the councils Arh! so it is the Government and the councils then? what a fucking tool, Dan you where too soft mate LOL stop drinking that council pop it's working mate LOL nah just kiddin well done my friend
That was the exact same census guy I had at my door and I live in the south of England. They are reptillian shape shifting into the nice census man generic jolly goatee man, to try and persuade the people in the know who refuse. :O ......Just kidding. :D
i didnt fill out mine, thanks for the heads up in the earlier vids. but i probably would not have bothered anyway because iv got better things to do lol.
did you know that they have employed 29,000 of these people to knock on doors. I thought we where broke? I am not filling it in...and I'll go to court and fight it, when I do I'll post the date and you are all invited. Its fucking laughable, the council, the tax man, etc already know everything about me, so they are going to take me to court because I refuse to tell them that I cycle a bike to work...if its just so they can distribute funds to councils why the threat of court.there is more to it
They will gladly spend 29,000 x £5,000 (i think its a 3 month temporay job) = £145,000,000 (145 MILLION), in wages for this (plus HUGE office and admin costs etc.), on this, because I strongly suspect that they will try to be retrieving £1,000 form everyone who admits they arent filling it in.
Example: in council tax cases (see my channel), just the lawyer gets £400, and then there's the magistrate, who get MORE - and yet they are only after £300 from the human victim !
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome - They can ONLY Prosecute if you are silly enough to give the name of your Legal fiction, without a name and the door knocker as a witness to join you to the name NOTING can be done because they cannot prove it is you, even if they send the police to your door you don't have to give your name, we are ALL policed by consent, it doesn't take that long to get educated on how to STAY FREE and out of the hands of the criminal system that are enslaving all the humans
I disagree - if the ONLY defense we have against their lies, is to refuse to admit who we are, and revert to stuff about "legal fictions", on birth certificates, and that sort of rubbish, then we are fUCKED !
For a start, once you are in court, they dont give a shit what you say - ive tried it, and they screwed me. the truth matters NOTHING. The ONLY defence you have is SEVERAL witnesses in the witness box - then they worry, because the truth can be established after (or maybe filmed
You see, now we KNOW they are lying. Now we KNOW its all bulshit, and they are just pirates, who used "technicalities", like "getting you to admit that YOU are a piece of paper", and we KNOW how bent and twisted and evil they are, what is the point in trying to reason with them, over birth certificates ?
AS SOON as they have the power to lock us all up, or kill us, or put us in chains, they WILL.
How do i know ? Because of what ive seen of them, so far, in my life !!
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome I do agree with you mate, but this sort of action which IS being taken and recorded in front of witnesses in order that they cannot do what they like (see my Birkenhead video which was deleted by request of the UK Government) so Spread it all over and re-upload it to keep it in the public domain like many others are doing. the alternative is all out Anarchy in which they will win because the scared sheep will allow them to murder the opposition to their slavery
Yes, i think you and me agree, over all. If there were mass rioting, then people would go "missing" as they always do. The question is WHO made them vanish - and the answer is "those who had a reason to" (the govt, most often).
The vid on my channel was allowed to me by soemone else, and there were a few copies on you tube - now i cant find ANY other copies, so i presume they all got removed. I added the music, and wish i hadn't but i cant find another copy, now.
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Yeh but I'll fight it and I'll be asking some awkward questions in court, like, what law have I broken by not filling it in? I thought my father served through WW2 to stop the spread of facism throughout Europe and the world, looks like he failed...what have we got but a facist tyrannical european superstate, threatening its peoples. Well fucking bring it on, when it kicks off these scamming bastards in government better run for the hills along with all their supporters....
But they tool me for £1,700 child maintenance AFTER my son had reached 17 yrs of age, because i never TOLD them he had reached 17 yrs. But EVERY bill they ever sent me, had his name, address and DATE OF BIRTH on the letter (it has to, by law).
I said "you knew how old he was", and they said "yes, but you still didnt advise us in writing", BANG... the hammer went down.
I protested, and they threatened to have me arrested for breachpeace!
2 of the magistrates just stared at me, like i was the seed of satan, the main one started shouting at me "are you defying the court?" and stuff like that, and the court clerk started shouting "you'd better get out of here, before we have you thrown in the cells".
Over and over, they threatened, until i shit it, and left.
CSA money, for when he was 17-19 yrs old, because i didnt let them know how old he was !
By the way, you mention the "european superstate"...... Did you notice how the VERY SECOND that we "allegedly" signed up to thsi lisob traty (and remember the irish refused it, and then they had to vote again, and "allegedly" voted for it the second time, for no apparent reason - and britain didnt even get a referendum, even though we were PROMISED one), that the banks went bankrupt ?
The very second that we were in europe, it all went BANG - like they didnt waste a SECOND !
@YouKnowIAmRight I'll come. There is more to it, There's got to be, being so hell bent on being threatening and spending so much on recruiting so many and when they already have all this info...I've thought about it and thought about it
@YouKnowIAmRight For goodness sake don't go to court. A court summons is an INVITATION and can be refused. Please look into all the Freeman on the Land videos on here, especially ones involving court. Get a Freeman legal advisor to take your birth certificate along as that is the PERSON that they are trying to create joinder with and see if they can find it guilty and get it to pay a fine.
I told my visitor that I couldn't remember if I'd sent back it or not, so she gave me another one. I learned that they have a 3 call policy, where after 3 attempts at your address they issue a fine.
"To whom will the fine be addressed?" I asked....
If the Census information really was to be used to deliver funds, then you would think a cost cutting government would be pleased that people where not returning it. Why the implication of a £1000 fine if they are apparently only trying to help us?
Some people have said Dan by going on the record as refusing to do census is leaving himself open to being prosecuted. But as he said, he never gave his name nor did he sign anything. He can change his statement at any time. I've heard that refusals sometimes get a visit from the police and a refusal to them leads to caution, details being taken, then court papers arriving soon after. You could post a blank form or form with nonsense answers and get proof of posting to get rid of cops.
He says "it's not involved with Government or Council or anything" but then in the next breath says that they use the information "to distribute funds to Councils from Central Government".
Tee hee. 7 million households apparently didn't respond. Glorious! xx
Seems to be the same everywhere! They are all nice and friendly! I think it's the next lot that come round to the refusals that are gonna be the trouble!! We'll see!
i THINK HE MAY HAVE JUST GOT YOU TO AGREE TO PAYING HIM £1,000
THATS WHY HE ASKED YOU TO CONFIRM THAT YOU WERENT GONNA DO IT, NO MATTER WHAT. IF YOU HAD JUST SAID "I WILL DO IT LATER", HE MAY HAVE GOT SICK OF COMING ROUND.
BUT I THINK THE GOVT MIGHT BE TRYING TO GRAB A FEW MILLION OF PEOPLE, USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE.
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome In the last census over a million people didn't respond. Only 38 people were prosecuted. These 38 people were probably scared into giving their names and consented under duress of threats. I doubt very much if any of them were fined anything like £1000 as this is the maximum amount.
Yes, im aware that hardly any people have actually been prosecuted, and i myself have never filled one out. However, i have NEVER known them send people to the door to CONFIRM that you are REFUSING to fill it in. It seems as though they may take that confirmation as an "agreement for a £1,000 bill". Why pay all these men, otherwise ?
Remember, lawyers and police are breeding faster than humans, and they need to create work for their sporn - this is how they do it !
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 2001 was the first time people in the UK could use the postal system to send them back. Before that it was conducted entirely by "enumerators" coming to the door to pick up the forms. I remember censuses being rather more laid back affairs than they appear to be nowadays. This one will almost certainly be the last one in Britain. TPTB will be hoping to use other databases available to them from now on. Things like electoral role etc.. Start ignoring that too I say!
Yes, yes, im just saying that the past few yrs, they seem to be screwing people, regardless of the cost (because it doesnt COSt the courts anything). ALL the courts payments are paid by the tax payer.
So, im just predicting that the police state will now start making MILLIONS form screwing tax payer to chase people fo rthis money.
They may just try mild harrassment, or may go further. We will see. But i think this may replace speed cameras, as the next money maker.
THIS is why the police harrass the working class:
1. If YOU get a criminal record, then THEIR kids are more likely to be needed as coppers, when they grow old.
2. If YOU get a criminal record, then you will NEVER be called for JURY SERVICE, whcih means that THEIR wives and familly WILL (and they get £100-150 a DAY for that, to cover expenses - NO RECEIPTS NEEDED).
I used to know a woman who alwasy volunteered for it - she made more money from jury service than her job.
You should have just not answered the door. They have to meet you to prosecute you. You've also admitted to them that you're refusing. YOU are giving them evidence to prosecute you with.
"On 23 August 1962, the government of Syria conducted a special population census only for the province of Jazira which was predominantly Kurdish. As a result, around 120,000 Kurds in Jazira were arbitrarily categorized as aliens"
All they are entitled to is how many live in the house. Period.( at least in the U.S. They sent a cute little lady to get my info. She was very polite and when I told her they have all the info they need from me , she was confused. When I showed her the Law concerning it here she said she didn't know and was going to quit.
I'm from Sutton and I didn't fill mine in either, they knocked my door several times and I just ignored them. Your beatboxing is brill by the way :)
nattybking 3 days ago
Why are they so obessed with you? This census is a waste of tax payers money peoples circumstances change so the information from that will be quickly out of date rednering this census useless
Boomerhand 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Your a legend dan :D
chief274 3 weeks ago
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chief274 3 weeks ago
I think that I will tell the Census people that I will fill one in but, the fee will be £500 ! This must be paid on the day `they` come round to my house with this form. If they don`t agree to this then I will send them my usual. MR .Robert Soul ! It`s always funny when I get a letter to - Mr . R. Soul ! I once claimed my Name was Anne and that I was a `Black Muslim Woman` , they actually believed it. I received a letter to MS Anne Ahmad , I sent it back saying that she`d moved .
terrygand 3 weeks ago
@terrygand thats a great idea.
61shirley 3 weeks ago
Is this in Newcastle? Just asking?
ogrebattle22763 1 month ago
@ogrebattle22763 no mate, notts
61shirley 1 month ago
@ogrebattle22763 no mate, notts
61shirley 1 month ago
@61shirley I'm American but spent time in England in Newcastle - Goole - London - Huddersfield - Dunstable - Luton..... it's a beautiful country...
ogrebattle22763 1 month ago
@ogrebattle22763 cool, ive been to nearly all those places
61shirley 1 month ago
census worker : ' i'm not threating u, but u cud b prosecuted '..... mmmmm.. walking contradiction
Harv7340 2 months ago
paperwork, democratism, communism, common law, country, countries, affidavits, uniform commercial code, oaths, jurisdiction, constitution, bill of rights, blacks law dict, legality, inalienable/unalienable, freeman, human, civil, criminal, sovereign, acts, statutes, national, international treaties, legislation, etc, r they not all hearsay, fictitious & ambiguous?, isn't it just a meeting of the minds?.type in imbatman57 in youtube & talkshoe.com.
Harv7340 2 months ago
haha luv it, u da man
mackdaddy3737 4 months ago
brilliant
fullspectrumrainbow 4 months ago
@fullspectrumrainbow cheers mate. the second time they came is my best census video
61shirley 4 months ago
I'm glad to see more people like myself exist . It really does lighten my spirit when i see people challenge the fraudulent system,instead of doing what we're told we must do.
1dosucol1 5 months ago
"Distribute funds"
So, how do they do that .If there's 10 years between each census,how does the census manage to help allocate funds for those that don't exist yet and will be born/die in that 10 year window ?
Exactly they can't ,it can't .So that makes it UTTER NONSENSE !
1dosucol1 5 months ago
Lockheed Martin kill woman and children. My census was ripped up before it hit the floor.
pilytkid 5 months ago
yak yak yak shut up and say fuck all ,MATE :)
badslabber 5 months ago
Sounds like a barnsley accent there. LOL :)
AMikeOnLine 5 months ago
@AMikeOnLine north nottinghamshire / derbyshire
61shirley 5 months ago
@61shirley - bolshy northerners refusing the census ? They think they're clever. The Census Office needs the info, whoever is in power. You're not clever by refusing to do the census. The info actually helps you, but you're too stupid to realise.
kealyc1 2 months ago
@kealyc1 your to stupid to realise the census will ever benefit you. Your to stupid to realise that government who threaten people to hand over details is a very bad sign, and history shows that. be a man and stand up for your self, stop being childish
61shirley 2 months ago 2
You should get a hobbie.....bet you sit at home looking out the window waiting for someone to knock on the door so you can record your conversation
chrisarmstrong18 5 months ago
census form was like 52 pages long! hardly just a 'headcount', i was sick on mine twas nearest thing to hand.
smmeegal 6 months ago
wow, 21/2 minutes? If I would have been worker I would have just put down 1 and move on.
assman255 6 months ago
ER YEAHHHH !!! ERRRMMM YEAH WELL MAYBE NO YEAHHHH!
OriginalNex 6 months ago
@LinkinTheory69 Yes, it is flying. No, it isn't an insect. Unless of course, you and 61shirley live someplace where flies are giant, triangular, metallic objects that reflect the sun's rays.
Onlymanolos 6 months ago
lol The guy said what I commented yesterday - the census is there to help local councils (and the Government that you don't trust :D) do their communal planning and stuff. Am I brainwashed then or... am I a Borg (from Star Trek :D)? :-)))
Huh... You're not obliged to take part, yes. But would it hurt if you did take part? We are individuals, yes, and everyone deserves respect (to some extent) but we do live in a society after all. Do you always do what you're... obliged to do? I think not. :-)
Fuckoffcho 6 months ago
@Fuckoffcho If i thought the census was gonna benefit society i would gladly fill it in. There is enough evidence for me that shows the government is incompetent and is not working for the peoples best interests
61shirley 6 months ago 8
i really respect how calm you are
nice video bruv shared
psychodrilla 7 months ago
Jobsworth
stuthegun 7 months ago
That census guy did things the right way, most are compete twats.
BatmansArse 7 months ago 7
I know of one census snoop form which is residing in a land fill site
colliecandle 7 months ago
you should ignore eny contact with theses people they will imprison @ the drop of a hat ??its fines and imprisonment that get millions outa the por every year beleive me when i say what will you do when you open the dor and they are there with guns and dogs cos buy not filling in the form you are comiting a inprisonable offence ?believe me when i say have no contact ?they know who you are ??just ignore them its hard for them to get a warant to kick ya dor in if they have had no contact with you
erazerhedd911 7 months ago
Are you aware you recorded some type of craft at :40 in your video?? I watched a few census videos prior to this one, so I wasn't exactly searching for ufos. But, be that as it may, you have inadvertently captured a very good image of one. I clicked play and pause over and over at :40 and you can see it fly from the right side of the census taker's head to the left at an INCREDIBLE speed. I was able to see three still shots of it just clicking the play button. Will you update us please?
Onlymanolos 8 months ago
@Onlymanolos your right, i didnt notice that, thanks. I also have another video with a ufo in that i didnt notice till some pointed it out. its on the video called "Contrails Chemtrails and Squarepusher" @ 2:33, see if you can spot it
61shirley 8 months ago
@Onlymanolos Its just reflection lol
TheWolfmoon21 7 months ago
@TheWolfmoon21 You aren't looking at the same object we are if you think it is a reflection. :)
Onlymanolos 7 months ago
@Onlymanolos No i wasnt lol i seen it now though and that is interesting as its way too fast for a plane...wonder if its one of them rods or just a ufo...anyway good find
TheWolfmoon21 7 months ago
@Onlymanolos my mate sez its a fly, which seems plausible.
61shirley 7 months ago 2
@61shirley No, we looked at each frame. It is definitely metallic. I'm not saying it is an extraterrestrial craft. I am saying it is an unidentifiable flying object, metallic and flies faster than any known man made object.
Onlymanolos 7 months ago
why did you talk to him thats still helping them get info also did you get the warning letters like i did written in pink letters
2010butchd 8 months ago
@2010butchd i shouldnt talk to them your right, i try and get into some sort of chat with them to see what they say. I havent had a pink letter yet, will keep an eye out tho
61shirley 8 months ago
@61shirley i was getting warning letter with THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING written in pink i got them about 30 times now its stopped but never admit you are the householder and dont give name but as i did i just didnt open the door
2010butchd 8 months ago
@2010butchd yes i shouldnt have told him im the householder. ill probably start getting letter now i think. interesting tho and exciting
61shirley 8 months ago
@61shirley funny how the goverment gave work to and arms dealer in another country to run it anyhow it seems they wasted money as millions didnt fill it in
2010butchd 8 months ago
Am I obliged to speak to you Mike?
NO.
Then have yourself a wonderful day. (Shut door).
3 seconds... done..
stromak 9 months ago
what a lovely man
choclitrayn 9 months ago
i think stubobby may be right
i'm just incommunicado when they visit
i enjoy looking at the threatening / appealing cards they leave
the trick is that they can do nothing without your name as far as i can tell
so no contract no comply
stephen22564 9 months ago
Good work. We need more people like you in this country. Government is not to be trusted!
OptimusPrimeuk2009 9 months ago
1000 pound fine coming you're way
Anddosdd 9 months ago
take note of the immediate language such as whats your name sir?
This is an order, someone can issue an order but there is no obligation to fullfill it, you dont have to start talking like a robot also and say is that an order? do you know orders generate bills?
just recognise what hes doing and relate as you would if a friend attempted to give you an out of the blue order, however you would naturally respond.
Danster82 10 months ago
"were not trying to make you do anything"
were just trying to make ya give us information or we will prosecute you....
"were not trying to make you do anything"
Danster82 10 months ago
Good for you. It is very interesting to see this. I am waiting for a visit from these guys myself; they have come twice when I was out. The government can't expect us to think that our information is really going to be used for our own benefit when they have given £150 million to an armaments manufacturer to administer it. They must have known that loads of people wouldn't stand for it.
GilesConradWatson 10 months ago
"The Office for National Statistics (ONS) website points out that the UK is "an active participant" in an EU Census Legislation Task Force. In 2008 the European Parliament approved a Council Census Regulation.The information gathered in the 2011 census will be shared across all 27 Member States of the EU. "
achtung07 10 months ago
Heh mate spoke to ya other day outside ASDA in car how's things mate? Any chance of getting hold of 1 of those sheets?
Aphrodeziak 10 months ago
the census man that came to your door says lockheed martin would not be involved with all information yeh right abet they not.they certainly not getten my info all occupiers stick togerther.peace
callum51131 10 months ago
Ok Cheers Dan. Just saw your vid of the five-oh at your door. Absolutely farcical. His foot was definitely over your mantle, glad they went away with their tales between their legs.
lozinja 10 months ago
the lockheed stuff really doesnt bother me. i just dont want to do it and i wont, afterall they (the gov) can get ALL my information pretty easily. they came round when only my missus was in and she said we hadn't done it coz the dog chewed it (old excuse but the truth) so they gave another one.
if they come again i'll say ive done it and nothing else, i want to cover my back as you never know
tctt1000x 10 months ago
I refused to send back my census and the census bods called my mobile and left me a message because my twatting landlord told them my name and contact number probably thinking he was doing a good turn. Do I have any chance to avoid a court appearance if I continue not answering their calls now that they have my name?
lozinja 10 months ago
@lozinja not sure. If they call round, ask them to prove who you are. Ask them to prove you havent sent it back. Good luck
61shirley 10 months ago
@61shirley
Thanks for that. I'm quite ready to say I refuse to fill it on the Lockheed principle and call their bluff whether they want to prosecute. I was asking more as to whether now they have been given my name whether they have more grounds to get me. Legal fiction and all that.
lozinja 10 months ago
@lozinja If htey asked me if i was the name they have, i would say "im not obliged to answer that question"
61shirley 10 months ago
@lozinja please don't use the word refuse, always say you are objecting on the grounds of Lockheed martin being arms dealers and your conscience wouldn't allow you to collude with arms dealers. Keep it simple. Hope that helps.
sarasez1955 10 months ago
@sarasez1955 Cheers for that. So far they have not actually spoken to me and so I have not confirmed my name. I will evade them yet and then will use your tact if it comes to it. I spoke to a census worker at another address and he said as well as a fine you can get a criminal record. Threats to be sure but I think with the amount of people not co-operating it will be too embarrassing for them to persue this in court.
lozinja 10 months ago
@lozinja Never tell them you are refusing, it's important you use the word "objecting" to Lockheed arms dealers Martin. Make sure you get them to write on their form that you are objecting, because they have been told to put refusing, big big difference. I handed them a statement at my door, stating that if I get a summons (invite), I will not attend, and neither will I pay a fine. So the ball is in their court lol.
sarasez1955 10 months ago
@lozinja your landlord stepped on dangerous ground here, his responsability is to the property, and unless you're in breach of your tennency agreement, he has no right to infringe on any aspect of your life or personal choices. This is a data protection issue for sure, he had no right giving any of your details to anyone.
thewr0ngchild 10 months ago
@thewr0ngchild He is a well meaning but prize-buffoon who's poshness means he complies with any bureaucracy without thinking. But you are right he shouldn't have done it. Next time I see him I will have to do my best Ray Winstone and 'ave a word' with him about what happens to a grass. Ha ha!
lozinja 10 months ago
Now that is what census taker should be like. The goof they sent to my place thought he was rambo and would not leave after being asked four times to do so and then went all nutty on me forcing his way into my home which I beat him back out the door for and they have the nerve to charge me with felonious assault even when a witness inside told the police what occurred and the damage inside the house proved the altercation took place inside the house. Come to find out the man has mental disorders
SuperShadowtwo 10 months ago 3
@SuperShadowtwo wow!!! good job, i would do the same. If anyone attempst to push their way into my house the shit would hit the fan.
61shirley 10 months ago
@61shirley they wouldn't have got past me without a boot to the knob, then if they did, they'd be standing face to face with my six foot long haired husband :)
thewr0ngchild 10 months ago
@61shirley In agreement, they try that at my house and they will have a nasty angry german shepherd for a necklace!
Reaper8902 9 months ago
@SuperShadowtwo thats crazy ! lolol
rudetoddboy 10 months ago
@SuperShadowtwo no surprise there dude, they employ ANYONE on this pathetic job, including nutters and ex cons!
thewr0ngchild 10 months ago
Hey great video, I just had one of these characters at my door, and he was sent away, did you hold vid/camera, as I will have mine ready next visit.
Love your Yorkshire accent, indeed why should we subscribe to Lockheed Martin, perpetrators of war! Peace man:-)
byt I am 60!!! Grandmother !
nothoughts1 10 months ago
@nothoughts1 thanks for commenting. i bet you have seen alot change in your time
61shirley 10 months ago
I dont understand, you blatently told him you were the occupier, and you refused, and he put it down as a refusal, by the look of it, Youre definitely gonna get the enforcement officers, or whatever you call them, round your house next. You should of just ignored the dicks, but he was a nice guy, wasnt he.
STU8O88Y 10 months ago 15
@STU8O88Y i can tell them what ever i like as long as i dont give them my name, then ive entered into contract with them. i try and get into a chat with them to see what they say
61shirley 8 months ago
@61shirley Thanks for your reply. You seem like a nice guy and i know what you mean, but it's a waste of time being civil and knowing your rights, they're not there to make friends, so just ignore them like i have, and i've had no problems, no threatening letters, nothing. This has all been one big lesson for me, there's nothing to fear.
STU8O88Y 8 months ago
Well done. I prepared a statement and handed it to the field officer stating my position. You can read it on facebook on my wall. Sarah Ledsom. Millions are "objecting" not refusing , to Lockheed Martin the arms dealers. So good on you. Let us know how you get on and I'll do the same.
sarasez1955 10 months ago
@sarasez1955 thanks you
61shirley 10 months ago
@61shirley Update....nothing to report lol
How about you?
sarasez1955 10 months ago
Wow, that guy was super nice, shame he's working for the Government really....
jwhitenstall 10 months ago
I told mine to note down I was removing ONS and any company working with them on the cesus, implied right of access to my property, very handy for when they try and send the next level person around.
TheAsfaloth 10 months ago
Great job man i just had one knock at my door but was not expecting her:( wish i had recorded it. as i opened the door realised it was census said "no thanks" then closed the door but then she put her foot in the way so i could not close easily! then told her she was tresspassing and forced the door shut:) be ready next time,she also came back and posted something she wrote on.
b612lons 10 months ago
@b612lons wow!! sounds heavey, i bet she wouldnt have done that if you had a camera rolling
61shirley 10 months ago
@61shirley yeah i was going to go down the route of just ignoring them i will video next time and try and be calm like you. they will be back if i have not done it so the note says:)
b612lons 10 months ago
What kind of fucked up state threatens you into telling them your race and who kipped are your house on 27th march. FUCK OFFF YOU CUNTS.
fuckemandtheirlaw 10 months ago 3
Great job mate, always enjoy your videos.
Maybe you might have some more stashed away in secret? ;-)
LINKx12 10 months ago
@LINKx12 i have mate, alot of its boring allotment stuff.
thanks loads
61shirley 10 months ago
He says "its not involving the government or the council or anybody its just national statistics" then he goes on to say its so funds can be allocated to local governments, So who is allocating the funds and to whom are the being allocated? Oh yeh that'll be the Government allocating to the councils Arh! so it is the Government and the councils then? what a fucking tool, Dan you where too soft mate LOL stop drinking that council pop it's working mate LOL nah just kiddin well done my friend
YouKnowIAmRight 10 months ago 3
America is being holocausted. U guys better stay vigilant !!
nickav1987 10 months ago
That was the exact same census guy I had at my door and I live in the south of England. They are reptillian shape shifting into the nice census man generic jolly goatee man, to try and persuade the people in the know who refuse. :O ......Just kidding. :D
LordLolinghamThe3rd 10 months ago
you handled that wrong bud
tatooinetrooper 10 months ago
You're getting a fine fer sure
nobodymuch 10 months ago
i didnt fill out mine, thanks for the heads up in the earlier vids. but i probably would not have bothered anyway because iv got better things to do lol.
iandegia 10 months ago
Never refuse. Ask 'Am I obliged to answer your questions?' If they say yes, answer with 'Please document and verify the obligation'.
WeAreChangeTelford 10 months ago 2
7 million people have not sent their census back :)
SteveFusionX 10 months ago
did you know that they have employed 29,000 of these people to knock on doors. I thought we where broke? I am not filling it in...and I'll go to court and fight it, when I do I'll post the date and you are all invited. Its fucking laughable, the council, the tax man, etc already know everything about me, so they are going to take me to court because I refuse to tell them that I cycle a bike to work...if its just so they can distribute funds to councils why the threat of court.there is more to it
YouKnowIAmRight 10 months ago 17
@YouKnowIAmRight:
They will gladly spend 29,000 x £5,000 (i think its a 3 month temporay job) = £145,000,000 (145 MILLION), in wages for this (plus HUGE office and admin costs etc.), on this, because I strongly suspect that they will try to be retrieving £1,000 form everyone who admits they arent filling it in.
Example: in council tax cases (see my channel), just the lawyer gets £400, and then there's the magistrate, who get MORE - and yet they are only after £300 from the human victim !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome - They can ONLY Prosecute if you are silly enough to give the name of your Legal fiction, without a name and the door knocker as a witness to join you to the name NOTING can be done because they cannot prove it is you, even if they send the police to your door you don't have to give your name, we are ALL policed by consent, it doesn't take that long to get educated on how to STAY FREE and out of the hands of the criminal system that are enslaving all the humans
UKBLIVE 10 months ago
@UKBLIVE:
I disagree - if the ONLY defense we have against their lies, is to refuse to admit who we are, and revert to stuff about "legal fictions", on birth certificates, and that sort of rubbish, then we are fUCKED !
For a start, once you are in court, they dont give a shit what you say - ive tried it, and they screwed me. the truth matters NOTHING. The ONLY defence you have is SEVERAL witnesses in the witness box - then they worry, because the truth can be established after (or maybe filmed
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@UKBLIVE:
Con'td....
You see, now we KNOW they are lying. Now we KNOW its all bulshit, and they are just pirates, who used "technicalities", like "getting you to admit that YOU are a piece of paper", and we KNOW how bent and twisted and evil they are, what is the point in trying to reason with them, over birth certificates ?
AS SOON as they have the power to lock us all up, or kill us, or put us in chains, they WILL.
How do i know ? Because of what ive seen of them, so far, in my life !!
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome I do agree with you mate, but this sort of action which IS being taken and recorded in front of witnesses in order that they cannot do what they like (see my Birkenhead video which was deleted by request of the UK Government) so Spread it all over and re-upload it to keep it in the public domain like many others are doing. the alternative is all out Anarchy in which they will win because the scared sheep will allow them to murder the opposition to their slavery
UKBLIVE 10 months ago
@UKBLIVE:
Yes, i think you and me agree, over all. If there were mass rioting, then people would go "missing" as they always do. The question is WHO made them vanish - and the answer is "those who had a reason to" (the govt, most often).
The vid on my channel was allowed to me by soemone else, and there were a few copies on you tube - now i cant find ANY other copies, so i presume they all got removed. I added the music, and wish i hadn't but i cant find another copy, now.
will look at yours!
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Yeh but I'll fight it and I'll be asking some awkward questions in court, like, what law have I broken by not filling it in? I thought my father served through WW2 to stop the spread of facism throughout Europe and the world, looks like he failed...what have we got but a facist tyrannical european superstate, threatening its peoples. Well fucking bring it on, when it kicks off these scamming bastards in government better run for the hills along with all their supporters....
YouKnowIAmRight 10 months ago
@YouKnowIAmRight:
Yes, and I know you're right (ha ha).
But they tool me for £1,700 child maintenance AFTER my son had reached 17 yrs of age, because i never TOLD them he had reached 17 yrs. But EVERY bill they ever sent me, had his name, address and DATE OF BIRTH on the letter (it has to, by law).
I said "you knew how old he was", and they said "yes, but you still didnt advise us in writing", BANG... the hammer went down.
I protested, and they threatened to have me arrested for breachpeace!
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@YouKnowIAmRight:
cont'd....
2 of the magistrates just stared at me, like i was the seed of satan, the main one started shouting at me "are you defying the court?" and stuff like that, and the court clerk started shouting "you'd better get out of here, before we have you thrown in the cells".
Over and over, they threatened, until i shit it, and left.
CSA money, for when he was 17-19 yrs old, because i didnt let them know how old he was !
Thats when i REALLY woke up !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@YouKnowIAmRight:
By the way, you mention the "european superstate"...... Did you notice how the VERY SECOND that we "allegedly" signed up to thsi lisob traty (and remember the irish refused it, and then they had to vote again, and "allegedly" voted for it the second time, for no apparent reason - and britain didnt even get a referendum, even though we were PROMISED one), that the banks went bankrupt ?
The very second that we were in europe, it all went BANG - like they didnt waste a SECOND !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@YouKnowIAmRight I'll come. There is more to it, There's got to be, being so hell bent on being threatening and spending so much on recruiting so many and when they already have all this info...I've thought about it and thought about it
Bardotbardot 10 months ago
@YouKnowIAmRight For goodness sake don't go to court. A court summons is an INVITATION and can be refused. Please look into all the Freeman on the Land videos on here, especially ones involving court. Get a Freeman legal advisor to take your birth certificate along as that is the PERSON that they are trying to create joinder with and see if they can find it guilty and get it to pay a fine.
Cheers.
CalumGilhooly 8 months ago
you have got a busy house my friend...thanks for being such a stand out guy and showing us all what is...erick
CovenantOfLove 10 months ago
@CovenantOfLove i know mate, its getting busier too. Thanks cheif
61shirley 10 months ago
lol just dont answer your door until may. this census collector was a nice guy, sadly that people like him are fooled into supporting the census
rocksoliddude1 10 months ago
I told my visitor that I couldn't remember if I'd sent back it or not, so she gave me another one. I learned that they have a 3 call policy, where after 3 attempts at your address they issue a fine.
"To whom will the fine be addressed?" I asked....
Gummage06 10 months ago
@Gummage06 The fine will be addressed to the occupancy, ie "the house" lol. Love to see them get a house into a court LOL
sarasez1955 10 months ago
If the Census information really was to be used to deliver funds, then you would think a cost cutting government would be pleased that people where not returning it. Why the implication of a £1000 fine if they are apparently only trying to help us?
Well done!
Gummage06 10 months ago
Some people have said Dan by going on the record as refusing to do census is leaving himself open to being prosecuted. But as he said, he never gave his name nor did he sign anything. He can change his statement at any time. I've heard that refusals sometimes get a visit from the police and a refusal to them leads to caution, details being taken, then court papers arriving soon after. You could post a blank form or form with nonsense answers and get proof of posting to get rid of cops.
xenbay 10 months ago
He says "it's not involved with Government or Council or anything" but then in the next breath says that they use the information "to distribute funds to Councils from Central Government".
Tee hee. 7 million households apparently didn't respond. Glorious! xx
TheHolySpirit 10 months ago
@TheHolySpirit Wow 7 million that's a lot, must be something of a record ;-)
xenbay 10 months ago
Sounds like you have a very yorkshire accent lol
BlameGov 10 months ago
Seems to be the same everywhere! They are all nice and friendly! I think it's the next lot that come round to the refusals that are gonna be the trouble!! We'll see!
Kroaky 10 months ago
i THINK HE MAY HAVE JUST GOT YOU TO AGREE TO PAYING HIM £1,000
THATS WHY HE ASKED YOU TO CONFIRM THAT YOU WERENT GONNA DO IT, NO MATTER WHAT. IF YOU HAD JUST SAID "I WILL DO IT LATER", HE MAY HAVE GOT SICK OF COMING ROUND.
BUT I THINK THE GOVT MIGHT BE TRYING TO GRAB A FEW MILLION OF PEOPLE, USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE.
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome they dont know my name, until they have that they cant prosecute
61shirley 10 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome In the last census over a million people didn't respond. Only 38 people were prosecuted. These 38 people were probably scared into giving their names and consented under duress of threats. I doubt very much if any of them were fined anything like £1000 as this is the maximum amount.
TheHolySpirit 10 months ago
@TheHolySpirit thats a good point, ill add your comment to the description
61shirley 10 months ago
@TheHolySpirit :
Yes, im aware that hardly any people have actually been prosecuted, and i myself have never filled one out. However, i have NEVER known them send people to the door to CONFIRM that you are REFUSING to fill it in. It seems as though they may take that confirmation as an "agreement for a £1,000 bill". Why pay all these men, otherwise ?
Remember, lawyers and police are breeding faster than humans, and they need to create work for their sporn - this is how they do it !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 2001 was the first time people in the UK could use the postal system to send them back. Before that it was conducted entirely by "enumerators" coming to the door to pick up the forms. I remember censuses being rather more laid back affairs than they appear to be nowadays. This one will almost certainly be the last one in Britain. TPTB will be hoping to use other databases available to them from now on. Things like electoral role etc.. Start ignoring that too I say!
TheHolySpirit 10 months ago
@TheHolySpirit:
Yes, yes, im just saying that the past few yrs, they seem to be screwing people, regardless of the cost (because it doesnt COSt the courts anything). ALL the courts payments are paid by the tax payer.
So, im just predicting that the police state will now start making MILLIONS form screwing tax payer to chase people fo rthis money.
They may just try mild harrassment, or may go further. We will see. But i think this may replace speed cameras, as the next money maker.
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
@TheHolySpirit:
THIS is why the police harrass the working class:
1. If YOU get a criminal record, then THEIR kids are more likely to be needed as coppers, when they grow old.
2. If YOU get a criminal record, then you will NEVER be called for JURY SERVICE, whcih means that THEIR wives and familly WILL (and they get £100-150 a DAY for that, to cover expenses - NO RECEIPTS NEEDED).
I used to know a woman who alwasy volunteered for it - she made more money from jury service than her job.
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 10 months ago
he was a contradiction in entirety - if he could only hear himself -
BTW
Census Collectors will be employed in two batches. Either 21/03/2011 to 06/05/2011 or 06/04/2011 to 06/05/2011
Census Coverage Survey Regional Manager:
Period of Employment
04/04/2011 to 30/06/2011
Census Coverage Survey Team Manager:
Period of Employment
18/04/2011 to 16/06/2011
NOTE: Capita Resourcing will be responsible for the recruitment of your team.
DumpYourTelevision 10 months ago
Where abouts in England do you live mate?
BlameGov 10 months ago
@BlameGov Nottinghamshire
61shirley 10 months ago
You should have just not answered the door. They have to meet you to prosecute you. You've also admitted to them that you're refusing. YOU are giving them evidence to prosecute you with.
TheNemestrinus 10 months ago
@TheNemestrinus who will they prosecute? they dont know my name
61shirley 10 months ago
Wikipedia: Kurds in Syria
"On 23 August 1962, the government of Syria conducted a special population census only for the province of Jazira which was predominantly Kurdish. As a result, around 120,000 Kurds in Jazira were arbitrarily categorized as aliens"
aaaaaaa1 10 months ago
So will you now be prosecuted for 'refusing' I have been advised just to deny any refusal as the cannot prosecute with out admission.
AdvancedSoftware3000 10 months ago
@AdvancedSoftware3000 they dont have my name, i could have been anyone at the door
61shirley 10 months ago
@61shirley
Ah good point
AdvancedSoftware3000 10 months ago
All they are entitled to is how many live in the house. Period.( at least in the U.S. They sent a cute little lady to get my info. She was very polite and when I told her they have all the info they need from me , she was confused. When I showed her the Law concerning it here she said she didn't know and was going to quit.
hellavadeal 10 months ago
right on fight on
butlincat2 10 months ago
keep fighting the good fight brother.
mejt223 10 months ago 2