Annie Fischer è stata una pianista di notevole statura artistica, soprattuto negli anni '50 e '60. La sua musicalità era proverbiale e la sua sensibilità si irradiava tra l'orchestra e tra il pubblico, come un fluido tangibile. Purtroppo nelle esecuzioni "live" non era infallibile e immacolata. Nelle sue ultime esibizioni pubbliche pare rischiasse molto con piccoli vuoti di memoria.
can everybody stop with this fucking psychobable and say something meaningful. first of all, martha argerich is incredible. secondly, fischer makes so many damn mistakes that the performance is hard to listen to without cringing. she's clearly having a bad day. what fuck is everybody talking about saying shit like "fischer is the genuine article" or "with fischer, player and instrument are united". Fuck all of that.
With Fischer, player and instrument are united - there is no longer a struggle to make the piano do something. Musical thought and execution are one. Fischer makes us aware that technique cannot be separated from the music, and that
that if a pianist makes technique overly noticeable, she (hint) is not really playing at the highest level possible. This IS the highest level possible in every way. Nouser, I am also very fond of Blechacz. Only he, Rubinstein and Gilels have come near this.
as far as I have read from an earlier comment in the video posted by the user "malev007" this video was on film, which is only 24 frames per second; as digital format is 25 frames/sec it is in fact faster than originally meant to.
Amazing to see Annie .Lucky we are. What the 20th cent way with Chopin is direct fast.she is hungarian but this is a way to get rid of all the (false) drama so many load Chopin with.I heard Argerich with Guilini in L.A1982? and they took it fast too. This is very good tempo and every note has a different dynamic coloring.the phrasing is real emotion not forced or pretentious here with Fischer .
you got the poiunt, she had a natural phrasing. It wasnt fabricated. She was a musician born..... Talents like her are very rare. Because of the difficulties her country Hungary went through her name is not more known than it is. If she would have been born and living in Russia or USA she would have been very famous throughout the world. But thats life. A good career depends on many factors. But I can tell you her Paris concerts were booked out..... could hear her in salle Gaveau in the 80ties.
Great to read perceptive comments which look beyond the gloss of recent performances of this testing work to savour concepts of architecture and strength (of expression) rather than sentimentality. I do agree the tempo is fast, though not relentless however.
with chopin -- often in the concertos and big works - the sense of "over-all structure" can take second place behind the beauty and brilliance of the playing, drama and lyricism of players. so- to see just how great Fischer's STRUCTURAL conception was-- check out her late Beethoven sonatas. that is playing of a GREAT mind at work that can conceive large architectures and how the details relate to them.
what's especially endearing about her live performances is: she plays "big" but NEVER plays "to the theatre" as many do. rather she plays by "inviting" the listener into the music and then lets the music and her playing embrace you into that world. she is first an artist and musician and only second a "pianist".
compared to her -- argerich and many imitators of that "style" of super aggressive playing - are like students trying to impress with how loud and fast they can play while throwing in some token gestures of stock "expression" habits. Fischer is the GENUINE article...deeply musical in every sound, with a mind for the big arch of the architecture, the role of brilliance and playing to play with the most natural elegance of artistic expression.
Beautifully stated! I agree. I am impressed with Fischer's sincere approach to the music...I love the way she shapes the bel canto-like 2nd subject, making it a gorgeous nocturne. I have not been familiar with this pianist's Chopin before (only her Mozart and Beethoven). I believe she was a student of Dohnanyi's, in Budapest before the war...clearly she was one of the great ones
what has become more convincing to me over the years of familiarity with the famous pianists especially by quickly comparing her with others through youtube noawadays is how much more naturally musical and artistic, yet unfussy her playing is. there is no hint at all of artificiality and yet her conceptions of structure capture grandeur as well as refined poetry that is difficult to find in beautiful balance among many others.
she doesn't quite "play" the music as much as "speak" it as if notes are like "words" to her. listen to her beethoven sonata 111, she plays the first mvt with the force and fullness of an orchestra yet her 2nd mvt has nuances that few if any capture that "guide" us through the grandeur of beethoven's variation explorations.
A superb performance - the playing is committed and intense but also deeply poetic where necessary (and who cares about the odd passing slip?). Surely Ms Fischer was one of the great interpreters of the 20th century - if one of the most unglamorous!
It was on film originally, which is only 24 frames/sec. It has been digitalized since. Digital format is 25 frames/sec!!! That is why it is a bit quick...
Oh, thank you!Miss Fischer was unknown to me, this video sent to me by TomFroekjaer. Thank you,Tom and thank you eribani!! What a beautiful woman....the real kind of beauty that comes from within. I loved her concentration, complete immersion and the simplicity of her demeanor: calling attention not to herself, but only to the music. And "Ahhh"....Chopin! Wonderful!
Annie Fischer è stata una pianista di notevole statura artistica, soprattuto negli anni '50 e '60. La sua musicalità era proverbiale e la sua sensibilità si irradiava tra l'orchestra e tra il pubblico, come un fluido tangibile. Purtroppo nelle esecuzioni "live" non era infallibile e immacolata. Nelle sue ultime esibizioni pubbliche pare rischiasse molto con piccoli vuoti di memoria.
darkblueangel1956 2 months ago
fantastically musical! i love it!
kingjepoy 7 months ago in playlist Chopin
can everybody stop with this fucking psychobable and say something meaningful. first of all, martha argerich is incredible. secondly, fischer makes so many damn mistakes that the performance is hard to listen to without cringing. she's clearly having a bad day. what fuck is everybody talking about saying shit like "fischer is the genuine article" or "with fischer, player and instrument are united". Fuck all of that.
jakmere 7 months ago
With Fischer, player and instrument are united - there is no longer a struggle to make the piano do something. Musical thought and execution are one. Fischer makes us aware that technique cannot be separated from the music, and that
that if a pianist makes technique overly noticeable, she (hint) is not really playing at the highest level possible. This IS the highest level possible in every way. Nouser, I am also very fond of Blechacz. Only he, Rubinstein and Gilels have come near this.
MISHA1119 1 year ago
After hearing Rafal Blechacz's playing this concerto it's just very hard listening to other interpretations.For me,anyway.
nousernamewhatsoever 1 year ago
The tempo would perfectly suit a baroque piece. like it.
MrLacidaremlamano 1 year ago
Sounds too fast at first... but a closer look at the score reveals that chopin really wanted the movement to be taken at this speed...
jonnyenglishlim 1 year ago
the tempo isnt that fast , just the right tempo.
those who criticise the tempo here are wrong.
Even Rubinstein did n t do it more slowly. And nobody does find something to say there, so....
uhartchristian 1 year ago
Dear Eribani,
Your videos are beautiful and rare !
Thank you very much for sharing them...
adrienbleu 2 years ago
as far as I have read from an earlier comment in the video posted by the user "malev007" this video was on film, which is only 24 frames per second; as digital format is 25 frames/sec it is in fact faster than originally meant to.
jacquesantonor 2 years ago
大家對於這個指揮所引導出的開頭速度...
有什麼看法嗎？
Does anyone have some ideals or opinions about "the speed" of opening which the conducter made.?
seremerow 2 years ago
Amazing to see Annie .Lucky we are. What the 20th cent way with Chopin is direct fast.she is hungarian but this is a way to get rid of all the (false) drama so many load Chopin with.I heard Argerich with Guilini in L.A1982? and they took it fast too. This is very good tempo and every note has a different dynamic coloring.the phrasing is real emotion not forced or pretentious here with Fischer .
lovesGenet 2 years ago
you got the poiunt, she had a natural phrasing. It wasnt fabricated. She was a musician born..... Talents like her are very rare. Because of the difficulties her country Hungary went through her name is not more known than it is. If she would have been born and living in Russia or USA she would have been very famous throughout the world. But thats life. A good career depends on many factors. But I can tell you her Paris concerts were booked out..... could hear her in salle Gaveau in the 80ties.
uhartchristian 1 year ago
Additional to my first comment, listeners may find the young Kristian Zimmerman's performance of particular interest by way of comparison.
Contrappunto 2 years ago
Great to read perceptive comments which look beyond the gloss of recent performances of this testing work to savour concepts of architecture and strength (of expression) rather than sentimentality. I do agree the tempo is fast, though not relentless however.
Contrappunto 2 years ago
it's too fast..
maybe it's old video problem..
F4sT 2 years ago
I agree it is too fast too.
Cattytea 2 years ago
Great pianist, weak conductor and orchestra.
billyguns2 2 years ago
Beautiful musicality !
Thx for d video !
Jesus Bless U
UnionToko 2 years ago
with chopin -- often in the concertos and big works - the sense of "over-all structure" can take second place behind the beauty and brilliance of the playing, drama and lyricism of players. so- to see just how great Fischer's STRUCTURAL conception was-- check out her late Beethoven sonatas. that is playing of a GREAT mind at work that can conceive large architectures and how the details relate to them.
tedly10027 2 years ago 2
AAAA. 061059Z MAR 2009 Tempo`s a little too fast for me....Kind to post it though.......AR.
fourwayscottage 3 years ago
it IS too fast.....no doubt ....sounds like Toscanini ....but still.....impeccable performance.
478493 2 years ago
what's especially endearing about her live performances is: she plays "big" but NEVER plays "to the theatre" as many do. rather she plays by "inviting" the listener into the music and then lets the music and her playing embrace you into that world. she is first an artist and musician and only second a "pianist".
tedly10027 3 years ago 11
I agree. She's much closer in approach to Samson Francois than she is to Lang Lang.
parkdalerevo 2 years ago
And she actually does something very interesting with the opening phrase --- regardless of that very unlucky wrecked 4th chord.
parkdalerevo 2 years ago
Well! This is certainly interesting! And even a video! Thank you a lot!
weikko79 3 years ago
4:46 is not a mistake?!
popma29 3 years ago
Well, obviously.
weikko79 3 years ago
My favorite concert! When was this performance?
Ivanka1991 3 years ago
that is my favourite concert for piano and orchestra...I have the CD and I listen to it nearly every day ^^...5*
HouseMDyeah 3 years ago
compared to her -- argerich and many imitators of that "style" of super aggressive playing - are like students trying to impress with how loud and fast they can play while throwing in some token gestures of stock "expression" habits. Fischer is the GENUINE article...deeply musical in every sound, with a mind for the big arch of the architecture, the role of brilliance and playing to play with the most natural elegance of artistic expression.
tedly10027 3 years ago 17
who are you?
v3le 3 years ago
just a pianist too and lover of great music like you :-)
tedly10027 3 years ago
Beautifully stated! I agree. I am impressed with Fischer's sincere approach to the music...I love the way she shapes the bel canto-like 2nd subject, making it a gorgeous nocturne. I have not been familiar with this pianist's Chopin before (only her Mozart and Beethoven). I believe she was a student of Dohnanyi's, in Budapest before the war...clearly she was one of the great ones
soami2u 3 years ago 3
what has become more convincing to me over the years of familiarity with the famous pianists especially by quickly comparing her with others through youtube noawadays is how much more naturally musical and artistic, yet unfussy her playing is. there is no hint at all of artificiality and yet her conceptions of structure capture grandeur as well as refined poetry that is difficult to find in beautiful balance among many others.
tedly10027 3 years ago 2
she doesn't quite "play" the music as much as "speak" it as if notes are like "words" to her. listen to her beethoven sonata 111, she plays the first mvt with the force and fullness of an orchestra yet her 2nd mvt has nuances that few if any capture that "guide" us through the grandeur of beethoven's variation explorations.
tedly10027 3 years ago 2
..Just for these reasons Mme. Argerich cannot even hold a candle to this outstanding artist!
Ya, Annie Fischer!!
berlinzerberus 2 weeks ago
A superb performance - the playing is committed and intense but also deeply poetic where necessary (and who cares about the odd passing slip?). Surely Ms Fischer was one of the great interpreters of the 20th century - if one of the most unglamorous!
paulprocopolis 3 years ago 2
this is exactly how chopin should be played! exactly like this!!!
v3le 3 years ago 2
It was on film originally, which is only 24 frames/sec. It has been digitalized since. Digital format is 25 frames/sec!!! That is why it is a bit quick...
malev007 3 years ago
tempo's a bit quick, no?
cmessier51 3 years ago
She makes a mistake in the begining. But nice playing nevertheless.
saulboyjt 3 years ago
Oh, thank you!Miss Fischer was unknown to me, this video sent to me by TomFroekjaer. Thank you,Tom and thank you eribani!! What a beautiful woman....the real kind of beauty that comes from within. I loved her concentration, complete immersion and the simplicity of her demeanor: calling attention not to herself, but only to the music. And "Ahhh"....Chopin! Wonderful!
tomkellycartoons 3 years ago 3
thanks!!
always0098 3 years ago
Beautifully played! Brava! TY.
paulostroff99 3 years ago 4
Many thanks!
maldoror26 3 years ago 3