yes it is possible and has been established, where our government has telaportation devices called jump rooms, we have one on mars. if this interest you research "jump room" you can even find it on YouTube. David wilcock talk about this..
Question: what happens if the quantum state of the photon is disrupted? Does the teleportation get cancelled or is the information sent to point C incomplete?
@Thaant111 yes you are. consider the fact that during your life all of your cells die and regenerate at some time, although not all at once. It's like trying to replace a ship by replacing a plank after the other. will it be the same ship?
This isn't useful teleportation, it's just a necessary feature of quantum computation. Teleporting objects without the loss of 'essence' is only possible through the use of a 'beaming' method, as opposed to entanglement of particles. One proposal is to freeze objects down to the Bose-Einstein Condensate state (at which anything, no matter how large or complex, will behave as a single quantum entity), next, the object is 'beamed' to another location with an atomic laser, then 'thawed' on arrival.
Before we can start teleporting living beings, we should try and figure out what the essence of life is (not to be confused with the characteristics of living beings), because to reconstruct a living thing out of raw materials at the destination would be a high tech version of what Dr. Frankenstine tried to do, but just because we put the pieces of the puzzle together does not necessarily mean that the information for the spark or life is contained within the "quantum information".
So that would be the first hurdle we would have to clear (once teleportation is possible), is can we "teleport the spark of life" as it were. Because if not, it would be like teleporting a car without the fuel. The next problem is the "teleportation of consciousness". It's all well and good to say that an exact copy of me will end up on the other side with all my memories and experiences, but my question is will I go to sleep and not wake up. Will my "spirit" be transfered to the new body?
There was an episode of Star Trek Voyager where Voyagers from different Dimensions intersected in space and time. Long story short, One of the Voyagers was destroyed, and the Harry Kim from the surviving voyager had died, so the Harry Kim from the destroyed voyager joined the surviving crew, and it always bugged me that his crew mates did not seemed trouble by the fact that it was really a different person!
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was captured on film. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is currently parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
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soul is energy, and can exist without a brain, for some reason people have experienced out of body temporarily, in the future maybe with technology everyone would be able to do it. 1000 years from now, we would look like we see our ancestors at the stone age when they used to live in caverns, the limit of space travel they say is the speed of light, maybe for now, but what about when one is going in one direction and the other one is going the other way, they are moving away at 2x spd light.??
I don't know, but 3 minutes ago I existed, but I don't exist now 3 minutes ago, so I died, but I'm alive right now, in the past I'm history, I only live at the present, maybe it has something to do with time itself, if yourself were alive the same one 10 years ago would never be one of you, would be millions, information is always changing, but one thing alone is not, counsiousness
Damn, good explanation but a still a bit difficult. I mean it's not easy subject matter of course, I thought I read an article saying it involved copying or something like that? Any help would be appreciated.
I struggle to see how this is teleportation and not simple manipulation of quantum entanglement. It also seems to ignore uncertainty principles and the fact that there is still to date no way of knowing where a photon is in a quantum state at any given time.
Also measuring A & B will still cause the observer to effect A&B on the quantum level.
1 last point, Due to the nature of quantum objects it is also perfectly plausible that two manifestations may appear, one in each location.
What do you mean strange intimate relationship?????, its called conciousness, its what binds everything in the universe, another left brain thinker...
If I understand this correctly it's not real teleportation but cloning material state information over a distance in null time. So if ever teleportation of humans become real it would (by using this technique) not be me arriving at the destination but a clone of myself, assembled by billions of atomic information bits. The real "me" would be destroyed. Hmm I don't know whether I'd like it. Moreover who guarantees that the teleportation company will not modify my memories and even the character?
It's only possible if you can disinegrate and insinegrate within a period of one TRILLIONTH of a second, with the insinegration of such a high force that they immidiately stick back together, unchanged. But it needs something for the particles to move through. Even if there was, each particle will have to have the EXACT scaled appearance for it to replace memory cells, and vital organs without damage. The movement would have to be the speed of light, and the G force would scatter the particles.
@Christianite554 Actually, with this method it beats the speed of light. nothing even moves through the space in between. it would actually be instantaneous.
@GnarlyNewEngland It is important to note that quantum teleportation is not superluminal. The classical information still has to be sent in order for teleportation to occur, and classical information channels cannot transfer information faster than the speed of light.
that would not be teleportation but copying, duplication. I don´t think I would be ready to jump into one of those teleportation machines, it would be certain death if disintegrated. But I would certainly use it to cook one great dinner and repeat it forever.
okey ask yourself this if there were two world one world is the original world where you are now living. two world is a perfect copy of world one Nothing has changed and if i would drop you in world two and tell you it's world one,you would probably won't see the difference. so which one do you choose? original world or copy world? probably original world right? you see right now you'r perception is false one,but in the future that would change. it's sound fucked up i know
i agree with ur logic @supertrinko...i'd more likely dub this Quantum Kinesis. Ur changing the state of one which is to affect the other not taking taking the same particle and transmitting it to another location. It seems like this teaches one about the uniformity of existence based on the patterned changes in the positions/states.
so in short it just delete all the particule in your body (kill you ) and then create an exact copy of you somewhere esle.... sorry but i won t recommend it before the theory of having an immortal astral body is proven...
the universe is packed with particles( quarks and muons) in a vacum that have no intrinsic form, they respond to impingement of mental waves without resistance and though they themselves do not move the appearance that they do is due to traveling mental waves remanifesting mental forms as they are dissolved back into pure potential,,we live in a hologram and we ourselves project it and are held by it,,,give up all fear,,see the world change for better
So the proton does not actually move through space to another location its information is just projected on another proton to achieve the same state at the desired place.
@UnifiedPerfection Nops, not the proton, proton is matter, we haven't yet reached to that lecture yet :p. The Quantum Teleportation experiment was carried on photons.
Why do they have to destroy the original one in the first place, I don't know why this is called teleportation when you are not teleporting anything but just copying the state of the "original". You need to have the same thing at the other end, in that case a photon and in the person case another person or at least enough atoms (and that wouldnt solve the rearrangement of the atoms to create the particles which quantum entanglement doesn't do)
@Seomanineluki Good questions...and here are the details for why the original has to be destroyed (to get perfect scan) and how uncertainty principle is involved. (The link is unsharable on youtube, i wonder why, try google 'teleportation' and you will see the IBM's research link)
Ancient Vedic scripture tells us that all souls are sub-atomic light particles, and in order to be manifested in the material world, they attach themselves to a material body.
There is a lot of scientific knowledge in ancient religion...it's what "controlled" religion has become that makes religion and science look non-related.
So we will be able to make a backup too, right? And therefor we will be able to bring someone back to life at that age he has been backed up. And he won't know that he died :)
Another hypothetical method of teleportation is if you could find a mass that is 50 times denser than the sun, elongate it so it is several thousand miles long,(about 100 mile thick) and spin it at near light speed. This would create gravitational waves that would bend the space-time continuum. Note that this is completely hypothetical. It may just form a black-hole, or make Chuck Norris appear. I'm not sure.
@FinFliks I agree. Its more like the teleportation that takes place is informational rather than physical- seeing as how photon C only mirrors photon B like an switch.
try not to destroy proton A and make the experiment..It's success on large object would mean we can 'duplicate' water and other resources in far away places..Is this technique cheaper on larger scale? ^_^
@supertrinko To me too! But think of this way: If we have a quantum telephone, and the signal (voice) from earth is received on Mars instantaneously, then hasn't the information (by whatever means) travelled faster than speed of light? This violates the ultimate speed rule and theory of relativity is totally void. I don't know how they will deal with this paradox.
@9906197439 It might not "traveling" at all but a direct connection in which time and space doesn't exist between the two. A gap between realities or a parallel universe that can used as a data conduit. They know how to do it but they don't exactly how it happens, classic. Will we find out in our lifetime? doesn't seem so right now...
@supertrinko Didn't you watch the video ? You can't send information like this because the act of mesuring the photon causes the photon to change quantum state.
@supertrinko The problem is that photons B and C have to be entangled first. For that to happen, they have to be in the same place before one is sent to another planet.
There is one little problem, and the big one. Why we must do that with photons or something else (I mean teleportation). We can use Einstein formula, E=mc2, tree is energy too so that formula will be help us to made teleportation. Tree is taking CO2, and when we burn it, it gives CO2, so we just must to regenerate those CO2 reverse into the tree. That is like teleportation.
There is one little problem, and the big one. Why we must do that with photons or something else (I mean teleportation). We can use Einstein formula, E=mc2, tree is energy to so that formula will be help us to made teleportation. Tree is taking CO2, and when we burn it, it gives CO2, so we just must to regenerate those CO2 reverse into the tree. That is like teleportation.
it cant happen ..you can not ever figure out how more than 1 atom can interact with another to make life..untill you know that ..then mabey you can break it down...dont think to hard
my ideea is to decompose matter at molecular level via positron sparcks - and rearange it at a form of plasma witch can be integrate into a laser / energy beam
witch it is send to a point B where is reasamble via oposite procedure with electrone sparcks - as well as heat - cool the gas / plasma intercalated procedures as shown in matter sintesys [ another movie on my chanel on youtube ]
my ideea is to decompose matter at molecular level via positron sparcks - and rearange it at a form of plasma witch can be integrate into a laser / energy beam
witch it is send to a point B where is reasamble via oposite procedure with electrone sparcks - as well as heat - cool the gas / plasma intercalated procedures as shown in matter sintesys
By measuring photons he means measuring the spin and other elementary information about the photon. But what quantum mechanics tells us is that once you measure a particle, you indirectly change other information about that particle (e.g : if you measure the speed of a particle, you can not know its position).
It is a mental process in which to achieve one must have symptoms that of a psychological disorder, to be able to shift your mind into another demension in time and space. Our basic emotions are the key to traveling into parallel universes, higher energy planes and demensions we've yet to understand consciously.
I don't know anything about a Physic but i think that process of teleportation is very common in our life. For example: can i drop the ice throw sieve? No, but i can to melt ice, change it to water, then H2O will disappear in sieve and appear under it. What if all objective world, matter, energy, waves, magnets power- is the same thing but with different structure??? If it so, we can transform matter to the waves, transmit them and ,finally, recreate matter. What do you think??
In that case nothing gets teleported - tossing a coin and getting heads, calling another person so he puts a coin facing heads is not a teleportation of the actual coin, just transferring its state to a different coin. This has nothing to do with actual teleportation or whatsoever, unfortunately the only application of quantum entanglement is a bunch of people making a living on science funding
We humans cant be teleportated, if we did, our minds would go blank, if we can only teleport the physical being itself and reconstruct it. our minds are not physical matter.
@xGothimox "our minds are not physical matter.", really? because there is quite a lot of evidence that suggests our "minds" are the result of neurons interacting with each other in the brain, which is composed of physical matter.
@xGothimox actually xGothimox I think it will probably turn out that our minds can be completely described in terms of physical matter, energy etc. i don't think our thoughts and memories exist outside of the realms of physics, just because it's not understood yet.
This information is more confusing than helpful. It takes something thats already complicated and makes it more confusing. I understood the principle BEFORE viewing this video - Im glad I hung onto MY interpretation rather than rely on something that really screws things up with needless babble and confusing illustration.
this does not make sense .... this is just misleading. all this is explaining is an example of quantum entanglement, photon a is not teleported to photon c. this simply shows that manipulation of photon c disrupts photon a via quantum entanglement due to its relevance with photon b
Here's a question I have mused over during states of inebriation: If i build a tube several light yeas long and fill it end to end with ping pong balls and place one more ball at one end and given enough energy to push the balls would the last ball at the other end fall out instantly? Would that be a kind of communication faster that light? If an Ether does exist as some surmise, Michelson-Morley notwithstanding, can't the Ether be used for instantaneous communications/movement?
@tertommy Well, the main problem is gaining enough energy to push a few lightyears of ping pong balls. If you could obtain that amount of energy, then yes, it would be possible.
Though I'm sure someone can confirm that this would be enough energy to travel any object a few light years away instantly(Defying many laws of physics). So the answer to that, yes it would be but the energy is the problem.
@tertommy i'm no expert on this, just a lowly student, but I'm thinking it wouldn't instantly fall out the far end. I say that because it would be the EM force that transmits your pulse from your end to the far end, right? and that force is mediated by the exchange of photons between the charged particles that make up the ping pong balls. These photons travel at c, a finite speed, so surely there would be a time lag between your initial push and the ball falling out of the far end?
These are very interesting points! Our conscious "self" is really only data stored by chemical and electrical means. Perhaps when science better understands the consciousness and how it works, we could use that information to construct a workable teleporting machine.
In my opinion, if you need to copy, then that's not Teleportation, that is just creating a new object from the original. On the contrary, Teleportation, would be like creating something out of nothing, like repeating the process of creation itself, and the original object will always be the original.
There's s serious problem with teleportation which i'm sure alot of people have not considered, if teleportation is simply the transfer of information from one place to another which is then used to recreate the original object if a human used a teleportation device he would have his info copied, then he would be DESTROYED then remade somewhere else, the original person that used the teleportation device would be dead, that been the case a teleportation device would never be used by the public.
@IcedPhoenix666 true,but it doesn't change the fact that even though a perfect copy is made as it would be if you used a teleportation device the original person to use it would be dead,say you was gonna use this to teleport yourself from london to new york whether you believe we have a soul or not you would still be dead,the person on the other end of the teleportation device would be a perfect copy of you, but you would cease to exist, as the "particles" you are composed of would be destroyed.
We are all copies of the people we were 8 years ago as the human body replaces every cell it's composed of every 8 years.Is the person you were 8 years ago now dead?
@ImpossibleNews I'm nothing like the person i was 8 years ago so one could say the person i was 8 years ago is dead, as he is nothing but a memory now, just because every cell in the human body is replaced every 8 years doesn't mean we are copies of who we were 8 years ago but i get what your trying to say, still the whole process of teleporting yourself which incase you have forgotten involves destroying your original self, would take seconds not years.
but my point is, being replaced over a period of 8 years is also destruction of the original self (if you assume we are simply made of matter) , as not a single molecule of the original is remaining. It wouldn't matter if it takes 8 milliseconds or 8 million years - the end result is replacement of the original with a copy.
@ImpossibleNews but the replacement of the particles that occurs in the human body every 8 years is a gradual process so we don't really notice it and its not like all our cells instantly get replaced every 8 years, with teleportation no cells are replaced, they are all destroyed then remade somewhere else, instantly.
With teleportation cells are replaced. They first die -as with natural cellular death over time. Then new identical cells are created to replace them. If I remove one brick from my house every day and replace it with a new brick, eventually I will have a different house. I may not notice it much because it will be gradual, but it will still be a completely different house.
@ImpossibleNews your right in saying all our body cells are replaced every 8 years but because it is a slow and gradual process we never die, we simply change in appearance and behavior, with teleportation all of the particles the original person is composed of are instantly destroyed so the original user is dies.
@ImpossibleNews assuming a teleportation device malfunctioned and made a perfect copy on the other end but forgot to destroy the original user, if someone then decided to kill the original user as he was ment to be destroyed, you would be dead and the person on the other end would just be an exact copy.
@ImpossibleNews if two teleportation devices were separated by a distance of say 10 light years, if someone used it they would be destroyed, and 10 years later when his information would have reached the other teleportation device he wouldn't be brought back to life, he would still be destroyed the person created on the other end would be a perfect copy of him because in the end the only thing that got teleported was information, not the particles he was composed of.
As your cells die and are replaced over a period of 8 years, the only thing which is passed on is information. The cells are new cells but it was information which allowed the exact copies of the dead cells to be constructed.
Also, in theoretical teleportation the cells are entangled at the quantum level which means the information is "transported" instantaneously - no time elapses between the sending and receiving of the information regardless of distance.
well you make some interesting points, but personally I believe we're more than just matter, and for that reason teleportation won't work on us anyway. Whether we would be copied or transferred in some way is probably irrelevant because we wouldn't survive it either way.It's an interesting debate though.
quote from the big bang theory? :P anyways. How teleportation works is not yet stated. We only have ideas from sience fiction and so on. But WHEN not if we learn teleportation the way it works will most likely not be anywhere near the way we think of it today. But the general idea of it is out there, and thats good. More and more theories will eventually give us hope to complete the puzzle. So come with ideas and post them on youtube or other known sites. A good idea is to make animations ;)
Say for instance that at night I had changed every iron atom in your car around with others taken from various iron sources (any will do) so that they occupy the exact same state and position as the previous ones.
When you wake up in the morning not only will your car be absolutely identical in every way and impossible to distinguish, it would be the same car.
@chumchumthegreat Humans aren't cars though. And we can't be entirely sure that humans are just a sum of there parts. In any case, human teleportation isn't plausible for... the very foreseeable future.
For instance, though I'm sure you're much older, your body is no older than ten years because it is the approximate time to completely renew and change the entire atomic makeup of a person.
But this is more a thought of what defines an individual rather than considering teleportation.
@chumchumthegreat you still don't get the point, who ever uses a teleportation deivce would be destroyed, even though they are remade down to the last atom the person that originally used the teleportation deivce would be dead, assuming the whole process of teleportation was slowed down when the user is rematerialized on the other end the original user on the opposite end would not be destroyed yet, is the user now in 2 places at once? no, 2 exact copies of him now exist.
This would not be the case, nor is it possible for that matter due to the "no cloning theorem" which goes far beyond the scope of a youtube comment so I'd invite you to do your own research and reading as it is a rather interesting phenomenon.
Though this has other interested "uses" unrelated to teleportation.
@chumchumthegreat i just did abit of research on it so ill use another example, assuming to teleportation devices are 10 light years apart when user A uses it he will be destroyed and it would take 10 years for the information to reach the other teleportation device, during those 10 years user A would be dead, now when the information has reached the other teleportation device user A will be remade down to the last atom, however it doesn't mean he just comes back from the dead, he is still dead.
The change of quantum state in C occurs at the same time as the collapse of state A instantly (despite the ten light years gap, one of the reasons why Einstein disliked the theory) so there would not be these ten years.
I understand why oyu might consider the lack of material continuity between A and C as death and it does make some sense to me, I just believe that human beings are difined by their personality, experiences and body, which really is their exact state, conserved during
Suppose it is possible to create a perfect copy, down to every particle's state.
And suppose that we were to produce one such copy of an individual without destroying (or killing) them, both they and the product will have the same "feeling" of continuity from stepping it and coming out.
Now that through some confusion they are mixed up and there is now no way of distinguishing them.
The difference between your interpretation and mine as I understand it, is that only
@chumchumthegreat your right about everything you said but the problem isn't who is real or who isn't, the problem is that the original user would be dead, even though the whole process if teleportation is instant, death can't be avoided simply by recreating someone as soon as they have died, say you were to use a teleportation device you would be destroyed(which means you would have died)then instantly remade on the other end, the original instance of you would be dead.
@chumchumthegreat this would pose alot of problems to religious people as they often believe God is the giver and taker of life so taking your life is considered a great sin to them. It isn't only the religious people that would have a problem, once sum1 finds out that they are not magically just teleported but that they are destroyed, then remade i highly doubt they would use it.
@welch175 Actually, I have considered this several times. It raises a lot of philosophical questions, but when thinking in pure science, such questions aren't relevant.
A lot could go wrong during an experiment with this, therefor I don't think humanity is ready for it.
@welch175 according to the law of quantum physics, information cannot be destroyed, thats why black wholes dont just sucks stuff in but also radiates stuff out. therefore theoradically each photons will contain its original data and remain at the same stage before the teleportation.
@zys714 it still doesn't change the fact that for a brief moment the user would be dead but i get what ur saying, i guess in the end it depends on the users perception of consciousness.
@welch175 perhaps teleportation is not just destruction, transfer and re-creation. what if we found a way to get 1 to 3 .. without passing through 2.... in the very same way that quantum entanglement disregards the space time continuum.
@welch175 you are so correct unless they seperate them at a atomic level then instantiounsy yransport those atoms to the other station and thena quickly as possible reassemble them EXACTLY as they were originally. although i suppose by doing that there would be a split-second where the teleported thing would be "dead".
@welch175 Basically being killed by the device and having an exact clone take your place with your exact memories and personality, but is not actually you since your true awareness (soul) was lost the second that your brain was ripped apart atom by atom and simply replaced with a new awareness that is not the wiser about the fact that it is just copied data, so to speak. That is why I am not a fan of teleportation.
@NolanWhite i think awareness(soul) would survive teleportation as it is just the result of billions of neurons interacting with each other in the brain.
"For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy; And when separated, man cannot receive a fulness of joy. The elements are the tabernacle of God; yea, man is the tabernacle of God, even temples; and whatsoever temple is defiled, God shall destroy that temple. 36 The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth."
Funny enough, Bones on Star Trek refused to be teleported and would only travel to and from locations via shuttle, he thought the teleporter killed you and then sent a copy to wherever it destination was.
@welch175 Well I'm feeling uncomfortable with teleportation. Yes, everything is copied, your memories, behavior and mind state. For others, like friends and family you are the same person as before. But when you are destroyed, and rebuilt elsewhere, isn't it just a clone of your state? Your clone will remember even the teleportation, but will he and what used to be you share the same consciousness (soul if you like)? If he'd be copied without your destruction, will he be you?
@welch175 There's still a lot about consciousness we don't know about. Example, your statement on neurons doesn't explain out of body experiences. That said, I'd rather not be the test subject of a teleportation device or be disassembled in any way.
@welch175 But then again, this is just a duplication. The original copy will be disintegrated as with its consciousness, replaced by a new copy of the original with a new consciousness that resembles the original in the same way. The new copy will think like the original and act like the original, but the consciousness of the original is dead.
@HORRORTV1 Yes, the original is lost....or the original matures to next level...like a pedestrian walks, every step he takes, he leaves a previous version behind...the new one is the more mature, more grown one. Previous then seems just a seed to the current one. (I think :) ).
@welch175 ahahahahha yes go tell to a neuroscientist or philosopher because as of right now we have no fucking idea where and what is consciousness and the soul is
@welch175 But maybe we could teleport robots and stuff, and maybe have them controlled by our minds through quantum computers. That would be pretty cool.
@Flashlight1996 no you could still teleport humans using a teleportation device as such described in this video, however the person that gets teleported would be dead after the teleportation device has scanned him, destroyed him and transferred the information to another teleportation device to be decoded to create an exact copy of him. From someone else's perspective the person to have used the teleportation device may not be dead as he is exactly the same, but from the users perspective....
@Flashlight1996 well actually there is no point in considering the user's perspective cause after getting scanned the teleportation device the original user would cease to exist.
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Blackh4wkdown 1 week ago
yes it is possible and has been established, where our government has telaportation devices called jump rooms, we have one on mars. if this interest you research "jump room" you can even find it on YouTube. David wilcock talk about this..
vradcke 2 weeks ago
Question: what happens if the quantum state of the photon is disrupted? Does the teleportation get cancelled or is the information sent to point C incomplete?
Vernedi 2 weeks ago
Wait.. you die.. and.. being rebuild.. but is that you or a new person?!
Thaant111 2 weeks ago
@Thaant111 yes you are. consider the fact that during your life all of your cells die and regenerate at some time, although not all at once. It's like trying to replace a ship by replacing a plank after the other. will it be the same ship?
interted 4 days ago
teleportation must hurt
DarkHiei55 3 weeks ago
This isn't useful teleportation, it's just a necessary feature of quantum computation. Teleporting objects without the loss of 'essence' is only possible through the use of a 'beaming' method, as opposed to entanglement of particles. One proposal is to freeze objects down to the Bose-Einstein Condensate state (at which anything, no matter how large or complex, will behave as a single quantum entity), next, the object is 'beamed' to another location with an atomic laser, then 'thawed' on arrival.
MinotawrTV 4 weeks ago
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Do you think we should find a new method to transfer matter from one place to another without de-materialising the object made by the matter?
UniverseIsAwesome 1 month ago
Do you think we should find a new method to transfer matter from one place to another without de-materialising the object made by the matter?
UniverseIsAwesome 1 month ago
Wait! How does taking the measurement of a photon change its quantum state? I don't get how simply observing something can physically change it.
DianaSolis3 1 month ago
ok so now I am able to teleport something
MusicAndParkour 1 month ago
haha, star trek fails again! were have teleortation in at least 1 million years thought.
Ryagful 1 month ago
Before we can start teleporting living beings, we should try and figure out what the essence of life is (not to be confused with the characteristics of living beings), because to reconstruct a living thing out of raw materials at the destination would be a high tech version of what Dr. Frankenstine tried to do, but just because we put the pieces of the puzzle together does not necessarily mean that the information for the spark or life is contained within the "quantum information".
TdotSoul 1 month ago
So that would be the first hurdle we would have to clear (once teleportation is possible), is can we "teleport the spark of life" as it were. Because if not, it would be like teleporting a car without the fuel. The next problem is the "teleportation of consciousness". It's all well and good to say that an exact copy of me will end up on the other side with all my memories and experiences, but my question is will I go to sleep and not wake up. Will my "spirit" be transfered to the new body?
TdotSoul 1 month ago
There was an episode of Star Trek Voyager where Voyagers from different Dimensions intersected in space and time. Long story short, One of the Voyagers was destroyed, and the Harry Kim from the surviving voyager had died, so the Harry Kim from the destroyed voyager joined the surviving crew, and it always bugged me that his crew mates did not seemed trouble by the fact that it was really a different person!
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kakayalieka 2 months ago
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was captured on film. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is currently parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
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LOL at fax machines getting a shout-out.
frazzzer8888 3 months ago
That's not making any cents.
chris808bossy 3 months ago
soul is energy, and can exist without a brain, for some reason people have experienced out of body temporarily, in the future maybe with technology everyone would be able to do it. 1000 years from now, we would look like we see our ancestors at the stone age when they used to live in caverns, the limit of space travel they say is the speed of light, maybe for now, but what about when one is going in one direction and the other one is going the other way, they are moving away at 2x spd light.??
Mezcal2008 4 months ago
I don't know, but 3 minutes ago I existed, but I don't exist now 3 minutes ago, so I died, but I'm alive right now, in the past I'm history, I only live at the present, maybe it has something to do with time itself, if yourself were alive the same one 10 years ago would never be one of you, would be millions, information is always changing, but one thing alone is not, counsiousness
Mezcal2008 4 months ago
Damn, good explanation but a still a bit difficult. I mean it's not easy subject matter of course, I thought I read an article saying it involved copying or something like that? Any help would be appreciated.
tiki2188 4 months ago
before I Was, I Am...Hiiiii!!!!:))))).....brothers and sisters..welcome home....heart = earth
lanagual 4 months ago
I struggle to see how this is teleportation and not simple manipulation of quantum entanglement. It also seems to ignore uncertainty principles and the fact that there is still to date no way of knowing where a photon is in a quantum state at any given time.
Also measuring A & B will still cause the observer to effect A&B on the quantum level.
1 last point, Due to the nature of quantum objects it is also perfectly plausible that two manifestations may appear, one in each location.
TCupUK 4 months ago
What do you mean strange intimate relationship?????, its called conciousness, its what binds everything in the universe, another left brain thinker...
rik8909 5 months ago
If I understand this correctly it's not real teleportation but cloning material state information over a distance in null time. So if ever teleportation of humans become real it would (by using this technique) not be me arriving at the destination but a clone of myself, assembled by billions of atomic information bits. The real "me" would be destroyed. Hmm I don't know whether I'd like it. Moreover who guarantees that the teleportation company will not modify my memories and even the character?
Cyron43 5 months ago
watch?v=tHnS3_DZWEU
Trust me, if your interested in teleportation, this is a very interesting lecture.
RobMonty248 5 months ago
It's only possible if you can disinegrate and insinegrate within a period of one TRILLIONTH of a second, with the insinegration of such a high force that they immidiately stick back together, unchanged. But it needs something for the particles to move through. Even if there was, each particle will have to have the EXACT scaled appearance for it to replace memory cells, and vital organs without damage. The movement would have to be the speed of light, and the G force would scatter the particles.
Christianite554 5 months ago
@Christianite554 Actually, with this method it beats the speed of light. nothing even moves through the space in between. it would actually be instantaneous.
GnarlyNewEngland 5 months ago
@GnarlyNewEngland It is important to note that quantum teleportation is not superluminal. The classical information still has to be sent in order for teleportation to occur, and classical information channels cannot transfer information faster than the speed of light.
lillunderhill 3 months ago
that would not be teleportation but copying, duplication. I don´t think I would be ready to jump into one of those teleportation machines, it would be certain death if disintegrated. But I would certainly use it to cook one great dinner and repeat it forever.
Nefariusi 5 months ago
ill b the first to try this.
jeffersterry11 6 months ago
sayroni 6 months ago
@sayroni
Have you ever seen the old sci-fi show "Sliders"? Here's a reference: watch?v=7c490UgHh6E
mtszabo 5 months ago
@mtszabo
holy shit i was looking for this show! thanks!
sayroni 5 months ago
so this isnt really teleportation, its just duplication because there is no actual dematerialization going on
WillLatourelle 6 months ago
i agree with ur logic @supertrinko...i'd more likely dub this Quantum Kinesis. Ur changing the state of one which is to affect the other not taking taking the same particle and transmitting it to another location. It seems like this teaches one about the uniformity of existence based on the patterned changes in the positions/states.
LexLuthicon 6 months ago
so in short it just delete all the particule in your body (kill you ) and then create an exact copy of you somewhere esle.... sorry but i won t recommend it before the theory of having an immortal astral body is proven...
kiomaru1 6 months ago
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kiomaru1 6 months ago
Sounds to me more like cloning, if you can materialize C with destroying B. Now that's something all together more awesome!
mas5453 6 months ago
@mas5453 Yea, sounds more like cloning...yay, would that not be a recipe of destruction.
ahmedshinwari 6 months ago
@ahmedshinwari But then again, the universal laws and balance is always honored. So, may be we should not worry about anything happening bizarre.
ahmedshinwari 6 months ago
the universe is packed with particles( quarks and muons) in a vacum that have no intrinsic form, they respond to impingement of mental waves without resistance and though they themselves do not move the appearance that they do is due to traveling mental waves remanifesting mental forms as they are dissolved back into pure potential,,we live in a hologram and we ourselves project it and are held by it,,,give up all fear,,see the world change for better
richardfireone 7 months ago
So the proton does not actually move through space to another location its information is just projected on another proton to achieve the same state at the desired place.
UnifiedPerfection 7 months ago
@UnifiedPerfection Nops, not the proton, proton is matter, we haven't yet reached to that lecture yet :p. The Quantum Teleportation experiment was carried on photons.
ahmedshinwari 6 months ago
Why do they have to destroy the original one in the first place, I don't know why this is called teleportation when you are not teleporting anything but just copying the state of the "original". You need to have the same thing at the other end, in that case a photon and in the person case another person or at least enough atoms (and that wouldnt solve the rearrangement of the atoms to create the particles which quantum entanglement doesn't do)
Seomanineluki 7 months ago
@Seomanineluki Good questions...and here are the details for why the original has to be destroyed (to get perfect scan) and how uncertainty principle is involved. (The link is unsharable on youtube, i wonder why, try google 'teleportation' and you will see the IBM's research link)
ahmedshinwari 6 months ago
Jesus christ my head >.<
SlyHooper 7 months ago
@xgothimox yes it is, our brain is our mind.
Sean0van 8 months ago
would be wonderful to teleport...
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Zoxtar 8 months ago
Ancient Vedic scripture tells us that all souls are sub-atomic light particles, and in order to be manifested in the material world, they attach themselves to a material body.
There is a lot of scientific knowledge in ancient religion...it's what "controlled" religion has become that makes religion and science look non-related.
They will both prove each other.
dogthebountyhunter33 9 months ago
@dogthebountyhunter33 Do they really. . . ?
If they do then . .. uhhh...
Avataryoutuification 9 months ago
So we will be able to make a backup too, right? And therefor we will be able to bring someone back to life at that age he has been backed up. And he won't know that he died :)
visualeffectschannel 9 months ago
Jumper
kevinzhang9112 10 months ago
Another hypothetical method of teleportation is if you could find a mass that is 50 times denser than the sun, elongate it so it is several thousand miles long,(about 100 mile thick) and spin it at near light speed. This would create gravitational waves that would bend the space-time continuum. Note that this is completely hypothetical. It may just form a black-hole, or make Chuck Norris appear. I'm not sure.
By the way, isn't this just replicating photon A?
FinFliks 10 months ago
@FinFliks I agree. Its more like the teleportation that takes place is informational rather than physical- seeing as how photon C only mirrors photon B like an switch.
rufdogshavebumps 9 months ago
bullshit
junkie8808 10 months ago
the photons b and c could remove lag in online gaming!! ToT so beautiful, can't wait for that day. everyone would have like less than 5 ping
Jjunior130 10 months ago
try not to destroy proton A and make the experiment..It's success on large object would mean we can 'duplicate' water and other resources in far away places..Is this technique cheaper on larger scale? ^_^
raahulworld 11 months ago
I'm more interested in the photons b and c, seems like a great form of communications. Altering one alters the other to the same state correct?
Seems like a solution to interplanetary communication to me.
supertrinko 1 year ago 15
@supertrinko
That's how The Illusive Man communicates with the Normandy II in Mass Effect 2 actually!
AkimboJoe 9 months ago
@AkimboJoe Indeed, sadly in the last two months I've discovered I vastly misunderstood the phenomena of quantum entanglement.
supertrinko 9 months ago
@supertrinko To me too! But think of this way: If we have a quantum telephone, and the signal (voice) from earth is received on Mars instantaneously, then hasn't the information (by whatever means) travelled faster than speed of light? This violates the ultimate speed rule and theory of relativity is totally void. I don't know how they will deal with this paradox.
9906197439 7 months ago
@9906197439 It might not "traveling" at all but a direct connection in which time and space doesn't exist between the two. A gap between realities or a parallel universe that can used as a data conduit. They know how to do it but they don't exactly how it happens, classic. Will we find out in our lifetime? doesn't seem so right now...
Humanlink1 7 months ago
@Humanlink1 Keep your fingers crossed.
ahmedshinwari 6 months ago
@9906197439 no because the voice is not travelling so much as being copied instantaniously
pivotman64 7 months ago
@supertrinko Didn't you watch the video ? You can't send information like this because the act of mesuring the photon causes the photon to change quantum state.
siflet1234 6 months ago
@siflet1234 Correct, I did make a comment on here expressing how I misunderstood the phenomena.
supertrinko 6 months ago
@supertrinko The problem is that photons B and C have to be entangled first. For that to happen, they have to be in the same place before one is sent to another planet.
evilthought 2 months ago
"imaging radars" +"mathforum" google.com.
fdlskfj854985 1 year ago
Why destroy proton A?
Adavur 1 year ago
if we become teleported....at the other side....we are just blanks......kind of like the avatars from the movie "avatar"......thats what I think
cool79606 1 year ago
cool
4linkfan 1 year ago
There is one little problem, and the big one. Why we must do that with photons or something else (I mean teleportation). We can use Einstein formula, E=mc2, tree is energy too so that formula will be help us to made teleportation. Tree is taking CO2, and when we burn it, it gives CO2, so we just must to regenerate those CO2 reverse into the tree. That is like teleportation.
Pertailos 1 year ago
There is one little problem, and the big one. Why we must do that with photons or something else (I mean teleportation). We can use Einstein formula, E=mc2, tree is energy to so that formula will be help us to made teleportation. Tree is taking CO2, and when we burn it, it gives CO2, so we just must to regenerate those CO2 reverse into the tree. That is like teleportation.
Pertailos 1 year ago
@Pertailos No, its not.
JayDee98765 11 months ago
Quantum Teleportation => Telepathy
chuobio 1 year ago
what happens if there is something smaller than quarks..can we smash quarks together...
danakulchyski 1 year ago
it cant happen ..you can not ever figure out how more than 1 atom can interact with another to make life..untill you know that ..then mabey you can break it down...dont think to hard
danakulchyski 1 year ago
if they could do it to every particle in my body via some massively powerful quantum computer buffer, I'd do it...
martylakewood 1 year ago
my ideea is to decompose matter at molecular level via positron sparcks - and rearange it at a form of plasma witch can be integrate into a laser / energy beam
witch it is send to a point B where is reasamble via oposite procedure with electrone sparcks - as well as heat - cool the gas / plasma intercalated procedures as shown in matter sintesys [ another movie on my chanel on youtube ]
ionut21m 1 year ago
my ideea is to decompose matter at molecular level via positron sparcks - and rearange it at a form of plasma witch can be integrate into a laser / energy beam
witch it is send to a point B where is reasamble via oposite procedure with electrone sparcks - as well as heat - cool the gas / plasma intercalated procedures as shown in matter sintesys
ionut21m 1 year ago
@a619091
By measuring photons he means measuring the spin and other elementary information about the photon. But what quantum mechanics tells us is that once you measure a particle, you indirectly change other information about that particle (e.g : if you measure the speed of a particle, you can not know its position).
100Asphixiate 1 year ago
It is a mental process in which to achieve one must have symptoms that of a psychological disorder, to be able to shift your mind into another demension in time and space. Our basic emotions are the key to traveling into parallel universes, higher energy planes and demensions we've yet to understand consciously.
MrHellJew 1 year ago
I don't know anything about a Physic but i think that process of teleportation is very common in our life. For example: can i drop the ice throw sieve? No, but i can to melt ice, change it to water, then H2O will disappear in sieve and appear under it. What if all objective world, matter, energy, waves, magnets power- is the same thing but with different structure??? If it so, we can transform matter to the waves, transmit them and ,finally, recreate matter. What do you think??
Proximotron 1 year ago
"opens Teleport-Speed Internet company" Waaaaaaaay faster than highspeed.
rojo1312 1 year ago
In that case nothing gets teleported - tossing a coin and getting heads, calling another person so he puts a coin facing heads is not a teleportation of the actual coin, just transferring its state to a different coin. This has nothing to do with actual teleportation or whatsoever, unfortunately the only application of quantum entanglement is a bunch of people making a living on science funding
avrilinblood 1 year ago
We humans cant be teleportated, if we did, our minds would go blank, if we can only teleport the physical being itself and reconstruct it. our minds are not physical matter.
xGothimox 1 year ago
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@xGothimox "our minds are not physical matter.", really? because there is quite a lot of evidence that suggests our "minds" are the result of neurons interacting with each other in the brain, which is composed of physical matter.
welch175 1 year ago
@xGothimox if the mind is like computer software, then recreating the hardware (the body) in its exact state will preserve the software (the mind)
triforcelink 1 year ago
@triforcelink
if you teleport a hard drive to one place, you wont have its software, youll have a fully functional piece of hardware, but the data on it= gone.
xGothimox 1 year ago
@xGothimox thats why i said "exact state" were not only copying the hard drive, but also the physical aspect of the drive that represents the data.
triforcelink 1 year ago
@xGothimox actually xGothimox I think it will probably turn out that our minds can be completely described in terms of physical matter, energy etc. i don't think our thoughts and memories exist outside of the realms of physics, just because it's not understood yet.
jimmyshitbags 1 year ago
This information is more confusing than helpful. It takes something thats already complicated and makes it more confusing. I understood the principle BEFORE viewing this video - Im glad I hung onto MY interpretation rather than rely on something that really screws things up with needless babble and confusing illustration.
DavemanXP 1 year ago
Thanks, and I am 100% sure that in the next 1,000 years we will have that machines.
maijib2009 1 year ago
this does not make sense .... this is just misleading. all this is explaining is an example of quantum entanglement, photon a is not teleported to photon c. this simply shows that manipulation of photon c disrupts photon a via quantum entanglement due to its relevance with photon b
scfitch 1 year ago
Here's a question I have mused over during states of inebriation: If i build a tube several light yeas long and fill it end to end with ping pong balls and place one more ball at one end and given enough energy to push the balls would the last ball at the other end fall out instantly? Would that be a kind of communication faster that light? If an Ether does exist as some surmise, Michelson-Morley notwithstanding, can't the Ether be used for instantaneous communications/movement?
tertommy 1 year ago
@tertommy no, it would take several light years for the kinetic energy to reach the end of the ball.
welch175 1 year ago
@tertommy Well, the main problem is gaining enough energy to push a few lightyears of ping pong balls. If you could obtain that amount of energy, then yes, it would be possible.
Though I'm sure someone can confirm that this would be enough energy to travel any object a few light years away instantly(Defying many laws of physics). So the answer to that, yes it would be but the energy is the problem.
ADTCloneBH 1 year ago
@tertommy i'm no expert on this, just a lowly student, but I'm thinking it wouldn't instantly fall out the far end. I say that because it would be the EM force that transmits your pulse from your end to the far end, right? and that force is mediated by the exchange of photons between the charged particles that make up the ping pong balls. These photons travel at c, a finite speed, so surely there would be a time lag between your initial push and the ball falling out of the far end?
jimmyshitbags 1 year ago
wtf just use a bike
AznOpro 1 year ago
These are very interesting points! Our conscious "self" is really only data stored by chemical and electrical means. Perhaps when science better understands the consciousness and how it works, we could use that information to construct a workable teleporting machine.
dsessom 1 year ago
In my opinion, if you need to copy, then that's not Teleportation, that is just creating a new object from the original. On the contrary, Teleportation, would be like creating something out of nothing, like repeating the process of creation itself, and the original object will always be the original.
sw8074 1 year ago
If i shit in a can and bring it to you, forcing you to eat it. Did i teleported my can full of shit.?
Sieberliebangbang 1 year ago
There's s serious problem with teleportation which i'm sure alot of people have not considered, if teleportation is simply the transfer of information from one place to another which is then used to recreate the original object if a human used a teleportation device he would have his info copied, then he would be DESTROYED then remade somewhere else, the original person that used the teleportation device would be dead, that been the case a teleportation device would never be used by the public.
welch175 1 year ago 34
@welch175 Yes. Your point? You are not implying we have souls and such, are you? We are all just a group of particles.
IcedPhoenix666 1 year ago
@IcedPhoenix666 true,but it doesn't change the fact that even though a perfect copy is made as it would be if you used a teleportation device the original person to use it would be dead,say you was gonna use this to teleport yourself from london to new york whether you believe we have a soul or not you would still be dead,the person on the other end of the teleportation device would be a perfect copy of you, but you would cease to exist, as the "particles" you are composed of would be destroyed.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175 Indeed. So let's keep this technology just for inanimate objects for now ;)
IcedPhoenix666 1 year ago
@welch175 They would have no soul 0_o
Dethnote27 1 year ago
@welch175
We are all copies of the people we were 8 years ago as the human body replaces every cell it's composed of every 8 years.Is the person you were 8 years ago now dead?
ImpossibleNews 1 year ago
@ImpossibleNews I'm nothing like the person i was 8 years ago so one could say the person i was 8 years ago is dead, as he is nothing but a memory now, just because every cell in the human body is replaced every 8 years doesn't mean we are copies of who we were 8 years ago but i get what your trying to say, still the whole process of teleporting yourself which incase you have forgotten involves destroying your original self, would take seconds not years.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175
but my point is, being replaced over a period of 8 years is also destruction of the original self (if you assume we are simply made of matter) , as not a single molecule of the original is remaining. It wouldn't matter if it takes 8 milliseconds or 8 million years - the end result is replacement of the original with a copy.
ImpossibleNews 1 year ago
@ImpossibleNews but the replacement of the particles that occurs in the human body every 8 years is a gradual process so we don't really notice it and its not like all our cells instantly get replaced every 8 years, with teleportation no cells are replaced, they are all destroyed then remade somewhere else, instantly.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175
With teleportation cells are replaced. They first die -as with natural cellular death over time. Then new identical cells are created to replace them. If I remove one brick from my house every day and replace it with a new brick, eventually I will have a different house. I may not notice it much because it will be gradual, but it will still be a completely different house.
ImpossibleNews 1 year ago
@ImpossibleNews your right in saying all our body cells are replaced every 8 years but because it is a slow and gradual process we never die, we simply change in appearance and behavior, with teleportation all of the particles the original person is composed of are instantly destroyed so the original user is dies.
welch175 1 year ago
@ImpossibleNews assuming a teleportation device malfunctioned and made a perfect copy on the other end but forgot to destroy the original user, if someone then decided to kill the original user as he was ment to be destroyed, you would be dead and the person on the other end would just be an exact copy.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175
but you also are just an exact copy of the person who existed 8 years ago. That person no longer exists as not a single molecule of him remains.
ImpossibleNews 1 year ago
@ImpossibleNews if two teleportation devices were separated by a distance of say 10 light years, if someone used it they would be destroyed, and 10 years later when his information would have reached the other teleportation device he wouldn't be brought back to life, he would still be destroyed the person created on the other end would be a perfect copy of him because in the end the only thing that got teleported was information, not the particles he was composed of.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175
As your cells die and are replaced over a period of 8 years, the only thing which is passed on is information. The cells are new cells but it was information which allowed the exact copies of the dead cells to be constructed.
Also, in theoretical teleportation the cells are entangled at the quantum level which means the information is "transported" instantaneously - no time elapses between the sending and receiving of the information regardless of distance.
ImpossibleNews 1 year ago
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ImpossibleNews 1 year ago
@welch175
well you make some interesting points, but personally I believe we're more than just matter, and for that reason teleportation won't work on us anyway. Whether we would be copied or transferred in some way is probably irrelevant because we wouldn't survive it either way.It's an interesting debate though.
ImpossibleNews 1 year ago
@ImpossibleNews true, it is an interesting debate, though i think teleportation would work on us.
welch175 1 year ago
quote from the big bang theory? :P anyways. How teleportation works is not yet stated. We only have ideas from sience fiction and so on. But WHEN not if we learn teleportation the way it works will most likely not be anywhere near the way we think of it today. But the general idea of it is out there, and thats good. More and more theories will eventually give us hope to complete the puzzle. So come with ideas and post them on youtube or other known sites. A good idea is to make animations ;)
LOngFirElol87 1 year ago
@welch175
wiki ftw?
fasthonda 1 year ago
@welch175 Thats the idea
mindfreak305 1 year ago
@welch175
Well the essence of the person would still live.
An entity can't be defined by what makes it up.
Say for instance that at night I had changed every iron atom in your car around with others taken from various iron sources (any will do) so that they occupy the exact same state and position as the previous ones.
When you wake up in the morning not only will your car be absolutely identical in every way and impossible to distinguish, it would be the same car.
chumchumthegreat 1 year ago
@chumchumthegreat Humans aren't cars though. And we can't be entirely sure that humans are just a sum of there parts. In any case, human teleportation isn't plausible for... the very foreseeable future.
TheKumby 1 year ago
@TheKumby
Precisely, so they would remain the same person.
For instance, though I'm sure you're much older, your body is no older than ten years because it is the approximate time to completely renew and change the entire atomic makeup of a person.
But this is more a thought of what defines an individual rather than considering teleportation.
chumchumthegreat 1 year ago
@chumchumthegreat you still don't get the point, who ever uses a teleportation deivce would be destroyed, even though they are remade down to the last atom the person that originally used the teleportation deivce would be dead, assuming the whole process of teleportation was slowed down when the user is rematerialized on the other end the original user on the opposite end would not be destroyed yet, is the user now in 2 places at once? no, 2 exact copies of him now exist.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175
This would not be the case, nor is it possible for that matter due to the "no cloning theorem" which goes far beyond the scope of a youtube comment so I'd invite you to do your own research and reading as it is a rather interesting phenomenon.
Though this has other interested "uses" unrelated to teleportation.
chumchumthegreat 1 year ago
@chumchumthegreat i just did abit of research on it so ill use another example, assuming to teleportation devices are 10 light years apart when user A uses it he will be destroyed and it would take 10 years for the information to reach the other teleportation device, during those 10 years user A would be dead, now when the information has reached the other teleportation device user A will be remade down to the last atom, however it doesn't mean he just comes back from the dead, he is still dead.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175
The change of quantum state in C occurs at the same time as the collapse of state A instantly (despite the ten light years gap, one of the reasons why Einstein disliked the theory) so there would not be these ten years.
I understand why oyu might consider the lack of material continuity between A and C as death and it does make some sense to me, I just believe that human beings are difined by their personality, experiences and body, which really is their exact state, conserved during
chumchumthegreat 1 year ago
@welch175
the process.
Suppose it is possible to create a perfect copy, down to every particle's state.
And suppose that we were to produce one such copy of an individual without destroying (or killing) them, both they and the product will have the same "feeling" of continuity from stepping it and coming out.
Now that through some confusion they are mixed up and there is now no way of distinguishing them.
The difference between your interpretation and mine as I understand it, is that only
chumchumthegreat 1 year ago
@welch175
one of them is that person, however as I see it, both are rightfully, *that* person just as much as the other is.
How would you judge which is the "real" person after the "mix up"?
chumchumthegreat 1 year ago
@chumchumthegreat your right about everything you said but the problem isn't who is real or who isn't, the problem is that the original user would be dead, even though the whole process if teleportation is instant, death can't be avoided simply by recreating someone as soon as they have died, say you were to use a teleportation device you would be destroyed(which means you would have died)then instantly remade on the other end, the original instance of you would be dead.
welch175 1 year ago
@chumchumthegreat this would pose alot of problems to religious people as they often believe God is the giver and taker of life so taking your life is considered a great sin to them. It isn't only the religious people that would have a problem, once sum1 finds out that they are not magically just teleported but that they are destroyed, then remade i highly doubt they would use it.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175 Actually, I have considered this several times. It raises a lot of philosophical questions, but when thinking in pure science, such questions aren't relevant.
A lot could go wrong during an experiment with this, therefor I don't think humanity is ready for it.
RealmofJocken 1 year ago
@RealmofJocken lab rats are
zys714 1 year ago
@welch175 according to the law of quantum physics, information cannot be destroyed, thats why black wholes dont just sucks stuff in but also radiates stuff out. therefore theoradically each photons will contain its original data and remain at the same stage before the teleportation.
zys714 1 year ago
@zys714 it still doesn't change the fact that for a brief moment the user would be dead but i get what ur saying, i guess in the end it depends on the users perception of consciousness.
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175 perhaps teleportation is not just destruction, transfer and re-creation. what if we found a way to get 1 to 3 .. without passing through 2.... in the very same way that quantum entanglement disregards the space time continuum.
scfitch 1 year ago
@welch175 you are so correct unless they seperate them at a atomic level then instantiounsy yransport those atoms to the other station and thena quickly as possible reassemble them EXACTLY as they were originally. although i suppose by doing that there would be a split-second where the teleported thing would be "dead".
goooooo9 1 year ago
@welch175 Yeah but the new would would be exactly the same as at the time the original would be destroyed, I guess?
TheBenjaminVrenko 1 year ago
@welch175 it's like killing yourself but having a clone made instantaneously to carry out your life
neonWHALE002 1 year ago
@welch175 Basically being killed by the device and having an exact clone take your place with your exact memories and personality, but is not actually you since your true awareness (soul) was lost the second that your brain was ripped apart atom by atom and simply replaced with a new awareness that is not the wiser about the fact that it is just copied data, so to speak. That is why I am not a fan of teleportation.
NolanWhite 1 year ago
@NolanWhite i think awareness(soul) would survive teleportation as it is just the result of billions of neurons interacting with each other in the brain.
welch175 1 year ago 21
@welch175 not nessecerily of course dude...
KYRIAKARAS 1 year ago
@welch175 Is this the only way teleportation? Will there be another way to teleport other than split yourself up to billions of photons?
P.S. I just state out some possibilities. Please kindly point up the problems if there are.
s020015 10 months ago
@s020015 Should be "Point out".
s020015 10 months ago
@welch175 There is no soul... only religious bullcrap. It's called consciousness get it right.
alex2974 9 months ago
@alex2974 There's more logic and evidence inherent to the concept of the soul than the concept of many elements of quantum mechanics, bigot.
canofsand 2 months ago
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Doctrine and Covenants Section 93
"For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy; And when separated, man cannot receive a fulness of joy. The elements are the tabernacle of God; yea, man is the tabernacle of God, even temples; and whatsoever temple is defiled, God shall destroy that temple. 36 The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth."
EscapeNewJersey 2 months ago
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The prophet Joseph Smith understood the fundamental relationship of matter and energy before Einstein was born through revelation from God.
Doctrine and Covenants Section 131 - v7-8
"7 There is no such thing as immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but it is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes;
"8 We cannot see it; but when our bodies are purified we shall see that it is all matter".
EscapeNewJersey 2 months ago
@welch175
Funny enough, Bones on Star Trek refused to be teleported and would only travel to and from locations via shuttle, he thought the teleporter killed you and then sent a copy to wherever it destination was.
AkimboJoe 9 months ago
@AkimboJoe Funny, thoughtful.
ahmedshinwari 6 months ago
@welch175 Well I'm feeling uncomfortable with teleportation. Yes, everything is copied, your memories, behavior and mind state. For others, like friends and family you are the same person as before. But when you are destroyed, and rebuilt elsewhere, isn't it just a clone of your state? Your clone will remember even the teleportation, but will he and what used to be you share the same consciousness (soul if you like)? If he'd be copied without your destruction, will he be you?
spirt2009 9 months ago
@welch175 There's still a lot about consciousness we don't know about. Example, your statement on neurons doesn't explain out of body experiences. That said, I'd rather not be the test subject of a teleportation device or be disassembled in any way.
Kaikumach 6 months ago
@welch175 But then again, this is just a duplication. The original copy will be disintegrated as with its consciousness, replaced by a new copy of the original with a new consciousness that resembles the original in the same way. The new copy will think like the original and act like the original, but the consciousness of the original is dead.
HORRORTV1 6 months ago
@HORRORTV1 Yes, the original is lost....or the original matures to next level...like a pedestrian walks, every step he takes, he leaves a previous version behind...the new one is the more mature, more grown one. Previous then seems just a seed to the current one. (I think :) ).
ahmedshinwari 6 months ago
@welch175 ahahahahha yes go tell to a neuroscientist or philosopher because as of right now we have no fucking idea where and what is consciousness and the soul is
dimonai01 6 months ago
@welch175 but would it be your awareness? answer me that you smug little shit.
bporgn 4 months ago
@NolanWhite Soul has no place in this, dont talk about such things here please, a soul rofl.
RMJ1984 1 year ago
@welch175 But maybe we could teleport robots and stuff, and maybe have them controlled by our minds through quantum computers. That would be pretty cool.
seanotube85 1 year ago
@welch175 Some theorize that matter, energy, etc. are actually just information.
IcedPhoenix666 1 year ago
@welch175 Unless, The person themsleves have teleported faster than it takes for the neutrons in the brain to transfer information.
ChromeZylo 1 year ago
@welch175 A lot of people have considered this, that's where you heard about it.
LaurenceFletcher 1 year ago
@welch175
I don't think it would work like that
secret212000 1 year ago
@welch175 right, but you can still teleport useful stuff like cars, ammunition, tanks, milk, etc?
Flashlight1996 1 year ago
@Flashlight1996 no you could still teleport humans using a teleportation device as such described in this video, however the person that gets teleported would be dead after the teleportation device has scanned him, destroyed him and transferred the information to another teleportation device to be decoded to create an exact copy of him. From someone else's perspective the person to have used the teleportation device may not be dead as he is exactly the same, but from the users perspective....
welch175 1 year ago
@welch175 Wait what? I'm confused, excuse my stupidity. . .
Avataryoutuification 9 months ago
@Flashlight1996 well actually there is no point in considering the user's perspective cause after getting scanned the teleportation device the original user would cease to exist.
welch175 1 year ago