MBC Survivor 16th Canata vs Jaedong 2009-01-01 @ Destinati

[engi0931]

first blood match.

[engi0931]

e super super tare meciul asta intre jaedong si canata bravooooooo.

[engi0931]

ok ok.

[engi0931]

the zergling speed attacks never.

[engi0931]

wow this video is reponses.

[FabledIntegral]

Are you retarded? Statistics show the EXACT opposite of what you are saying. Numbers have always shown Protoss beating Terran (Boxer lost to Toss most in his reign, oov when Bonjwa was worst vs Toss), Terran absolutely annhilating Zerg (oov had a 27 win streak or something vs Zerg, Terrans DOMINATED Z at the time) and THE most imbalanced matchup of the age, Zerg vs Toss, where Zerg had ridiculously high win rates and it was almost considered "unwinnable" until Bisu (well Nal_rA did most before)

[vacredan]

Did the terran won,maybe the zerg player would have won if he infected a command center.

[eusiron]

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Why do they keep marking the loser as the winner?

[oilizer]

They didn't... If you can read the name of the player (in Korean), they name the winner and has the left half on the screen on the winner and the small screen on the loser... I guess it CAN be confusing...

[twinesper]

Damn even with JD's insane APM and using everything Z could and always keeping the base lead there's just nothing Z can do against Terran mech late game almost...

Well I guess it's always been known Z has to kill Terran mech early though.

If he had produced a few more lings right after that bunker rush he coulda did major dmg before that vult came out too.

Also the mine at the beg against those 6 hydras...

[deinse81]

@twinesper

A base lead Zerg isn't weak against late game Terran, the build Jaedong chose here is.

But there's plenty Zerg can do in the late game to match terran, if he doesn't use his gas on muta. Jaedong just tried something unconventional, and went heavy muta while ignoring the more standard late game tech options (plague, ultralisks).

I've seen mutas work against some mech, but only in small doses, to kill a group of tanks before terran reacts. Then they need to be backed up with ultras.

[Mendelevium146]

if this mine didnt go up on these hydras at start jaedong would ve won

[kawafanatic]

Seriously...somebody please tell me...WTF is up with Jaedong lately??? I can't believe it...

[okay21088]

not Jaedong's fault that a Terran abuses Terran overpowered unit (mine, comes 3 free with 75 mineral unit) on a Terran map (destination = narrow bridges)

[PARASOFT]

Then I can claim overlords are imba. It costs 100mins, perfect scout unit, can carry units and is detector.

[okay21088]

Well overlords make bad supplys as they are vulnerable to air unit (forces Z to get anti-air), only 200 health compared to supply depot's 500 health, and still slow even after upgrade

They make great scouts, decent transports (Zergs have more units than other races so they need more transports) and great detector.

They have both their good and bad side

Terran can maphack (scan), have beefed up supplies, and faster transports

To say that ovies are imba is just stupid

[okay21088]

You should know TvZ is imba in favor of Terran, its the only matchup in Starcraft that is farthest from balance. Don't say SC is a balanced game, even Artosis commented that "Starcraft is not balanced but balanced enough that you can overcome the imbalancies with practice"

No game can EVER be TRULY balanced unless EVERYTHING was the same. TvZ especially needs to be fixed with patches. Nerf firebat, vulture, turret cost, etc.

[PARASOFT]

Every matchup is pretty god damn balanced even though there are 3 totally distinct races. If vults were really imba in tvz we would see them more often in TvZ pro games, but you wont see a single vult in %80 of TvZ pro games. So maybe pros are not as smart as you, or they are not as skilled as you.

[Parfien]

it is

[hang319han]

Isn't it epic?