es muss ein neuer teil kommen das spiel ist sowas von der hammer vieleicht schon alt aber mit der heutigen grafik kann man schon was fetttes aus einem neuen teil machen love this game
Wicked. Neutralized the star's gravity somehow, basically allowing the opposing repulsive forces to blow the star apart. All for our destruction, and even while costing thousands of their own.
INCREDIBLE last mission. Tried to save as many ships as I could but they just kept coming, and then you learn that much of it was in vain.
@ColdCutz Nope, they didn't have to destroy the star in order to defeat the terran-vasudan alliance. Even with the help of the Colossus, it took a lot of effort to destroy just ONE of the Sathanas class warships. In the game, you see that they have at least 20. The two "dominant" theories are that either a) Shivans create nebula fields and then mine them for energy (they had miner ships in the nebula system that you visit soon after the Shivans reappear and....
b) They use the star's energy to create some kind of "super-wormhole" that allows them to return to their homeland (this derives from the commander's speech in the "player returns" endgame video. Sth like "Maybe they are also exiles, trying to get back home".
@Been2Hell or maybe they're just the friggind devil and in the next game you would find out they built a wormhole to the solar system and had destroyed earth, just sayin :P
Here's and interesting thought: What if the shivans are fighting other species in distant parts of the galaxy while fighting the GTVA? Maybe there are other subspace travelling races that are expanding interstellar empires which the shivans seek to destroy? The Shivan territory may be very large. For all anyone knows, the shivans could be the dominant force in the galaxy.
I played this game back in 2000 one of the greatest space sim i ever played i saw a copy for $3.00 at w.w.w. 123save.webs.com
Prior to free-space i played Colony Wars another great space Sim (I am a veteran league fighter pilot i fought at d battle of Bennay and i was at the battle of Drako we lost many comrades but we crushed d savage navy Empire
Well if the Shivan Juggernaut SJ Sathanas is the DEVIL of the Universe what could we expect if EVER a Freespace 3 would be made!
I mean guys, it could be THE mothership of the Shivans classified as "SM Diabolus" .. a behemoth easily 5 times the size of a Sathanas or equivalent class which easily surpasses the turret count of the sathanas/colossus by hundreds of (a-capital beam) turrets. It may also have a gigantic main beam cannon that has enough firepower to rip a hole through an entire star!
@thenewalive Well I will ;). Freespace 3 would be more interesting as you would have a complete storyline to those new super capital ships ;). I mean for me the epic storylines of FS 1 & 2 are easily on par with the Warcraft/Starcraft/Diablo/CnC/Half-Life/etc. series and I guess a FS 3 would simply be awesome to have.
But from all those different genres this game is in open space where you see kilometer long super capital ships with 80+ turrets duking it out against each other. Awe-inspiring!!!
@thenewalive ahh yeah and before I forget they have the most impressive weapons arsenal I've ever seen in any game and I have played the most popular games on the PC but nothing comes close the feeling when you HEAR and SEE the Charge-up animation of the DEVIL of the Universe the SJ Sathanas powering up its four frontal BFRED Main Beam guns - the most lethal weapons in the universe! ! ! Man this sound and the slashing beams ... wow ... no words can describe this in the LAST FRONTIER we know!
@aiwalk The Death Star is not the end of all buddy ;). I mean the +80 Sathanas that destroyed an entire sun.
A sun is considerably bigger then a normal habitant planet and the Sathanas class Juggernauts are just resource fleet ships as far as I followed the space sim. They are not really battleships. I do not want to know what REAL BS size capital ships of the great destroyers (alias the Shivans) would look like. By the way beam cannons in this GAME are cool and sound intimidating ;).
@thenewalive By the way the SH Gargant seems to be more impressive with 37 kms in length ;). My Goodness how long would I need with a Perseus to make ONLY once a complete fly by hehe :D ;). Really Awe-inspiring a dark sinister Shivan Monster that floats in space and has possibly some of the most powerful beam guns ever constructed ... well for this very reason we simply need a epic sequel with an even more EPIC storyline to introduce those ships in midst of a possible new invasion by the Shivans
For the first time when I played I died, i knew that sub-space is interconected with gravity and vice versa, from the theory in the tech room, from the briefings I also knew that the Shivans are increasing subspace activity to unheard levels, out of the scale, not possible to being measured, I was thinking maybe they want to go somewhere else, create an art. jumpnode.
To my horror I realized, when command informed me in the final moments of the game, that the radiation from the star is increasing at an exponential rate, that to perform a jump through a node the node must be in a place of gravitational equlibrium or entropy. It clicked to me but too late, when you create a subspace field like the sathanas did you implode normal space-time itself, well what is space-time, in fact everything.
Even mater . Matter is made from organized energy, energy from curls of space-time in multiple dimensions(11). Last thing I said was: "Oh fuc............" and I was dead, repeating the mission.
A CYBORG race that isn't terrestrial.. lives in space, and has DESTROYED an ancient civilization 8000 years ago.. WHO KNOWS HOW OLD THEY ARE!
Their agenda is greater than that, I bet.. Think about it - they CONTACTED the humans during their last moments in the nebula - before all those Sathanass'es came out For all we know - they don't reply back to our comms, but if THEY comm'd then this means "|-|(_)/\/\@|\|5 \/\/1|_|_ @|_|_ |)13 |\|0\/\/"
i also like how it shows the true power of the shivans - during the whole storyline the humans come up with new weapons to try & compete but fact is the humans were NOTHING to them. lol
this track has a VERY "alien" feel to it. fits the story & scene perfectly :) brilliantly conveys the power of these mysterious aliens with an equally mysterious agenda
@Interplayfan One of the VERY few games that made me feel for it. I can think of a couple more that could do that: Loom, Star Control 2 and the Homeworld ones.
Of all the losses to the videogame industry, the death ( or apparent death) of this franchise due to licensing issues has to one of the greatest. Would people agree?
I own this game an it truelly is the best space sim of all time. Especially now that it's being actively developed. If you were unaware of this do a Google search for Hard Light Productions, FS Open, or Game-Warden.
wtf are you talking about this is freespace 2, not freespace 1 and if you fail at killing the lucifer in fs1 you would just fail mission not a cinematic ending. this ending is freespace 2 ending where you either live or die in flaming glory
Relax.. not everyone has perfect memories.. haha. i used to play this game on my Pentium 2 !!!
(333 Mhz) like over a decade ago..
Even my PDA has enough firepower to run this now.... LOL
was this the ending though? i thought it played mid-mission on the final campaign... then after that you start running.. and then the final cinematics.
i wasnt angry just surprised, this is fs2 ending, fs1 ending is lucifer blowing up, this is the end cutscene both cutscenes go after each other so you get this one then if you live you will the im alive one and if you die you get the i died in flaming glory
You noticed the very same thing that any Freespace fan known from Freespace 1.
It was said by the Antients "For they are not a terrestrial species." "They were no ordinary enemy. They did not seek our territory, our technology, our resources." There is no doubts now.
I was they made a 3 to clarify but its clear they didnt do this to kill or warn the humans. Just one more of those bigger ships would have been enough to finish off both the human race and the vesuden that was clear with the story line. In the process with blowing up the sun they lost like 6 of those ships so I have a feeling that the humans and vessuden where nothing more then in the way of something else, whatever else, they where doing. The game just never said what it was.
the big question what happend after that...would the shivans continue to destroy solar systems or was that simply a warning to stop all internal fighting? (they only come when somone fight someone)
More like Sephiroth is the wannabe, considering that his attempt to blow up a single planet (as opposed to a solar system, btw) was foiled by a spiky-haired brat and his collection of oddball party members.
im playing it right now and i got to tell you i got killed more times from FRIENDLY anti fighter beams then anything else and oh yea random slash beams
Sephiroth DID NOT TRY TO DESTROY THE PLANET! He tried to injure the planet so that the lifestream would attempt to heal the planet and he can absorb the lifestream to gain the powers of a god.
Er... big differance between an RTS and a spaceflight sim. BIG. The only real similarity is the setting in outer space. Once you get past the appearance, if you think of it from a programmer's perspective, going from RTS to spaceflight sim would be quite impossible.
Everyone see Volition finally announced they "would commit murder" to make a FS3? Everyone needs to get behind them. Google it. I think we finally might have it coming =)
@LordLucka 3): It has been stated by [V] that the Shivans are what we see in the hall fight cutscene.
As for the rest of your questions, I think the answer has to lie within the Hindu religion. One of their gods, Shiva, is known as the creator, the preserver and the destroyer. We've seen the Shivans destroy, the Ancients saw the Shivans preserve, and...?
And if there is a fourth race, and the shivans just want to get back home... why did they destroy the Ancients? Why did they try to destroy the Terrans and Vasudans? There has to be more about this.
Whart if they have just searched for their home and thought just like the Ancients did? Strange, hideous beings, and we are just expanding our glorious empire...
3) and the final for now. It is mentioned in FS2 Tech Room that the Shivans might have been "created" by another race. This might be significant since it has been mentioned...
What if - coz' they completely ignored our worlds - the Shivans only tried to go back home and fight for it such as the Hiigarans did in Homeworld? What if there is a 4th race? And if this is true, why did the scout unit of the Shivans went to Sol?
Is something there about that case? It is another blocked jump node...
2) Remember the capture of Bosch? It is said that "they've taken away Bosch, two namd persons, and "about a dozen others".
Bosch named the NTF as "a monster I am now powerless to stop". Who knows: he might have just asked the Shivans to annihilate the useless crew. If Bosch was captured... how did he have time to launch the self-destruct sequence?
And the Bosch+2+about a dozen looks more like a contingent than a group of hostages. What if Bosch just tried to make the alliance... and he done it?
1) Remember Lt. McCarthy from FS1? What did he want? To ally with the Vasudans agaist the unknown race. What happaned later? We allied with the Vasudans against the Shivans.
What did the HoL want? To break the alliance and join the Shivans.
What's Bosch's (and the NTF's) dream? TO BREAK THE ALLIANCE AND ALLY THE SHIVANS.
Volition already done this trick once with McCarthy. Can it be that this was their plan for the 3rd game? Thaey did plan to create one..
Furthermore, the shivans in freespace 1 were just a "scouting party" (according to the Freespace 2 story). So, the Shivans didn't build the 80 Sathanas in the 35 years interval between the two games. The ships could have been a part of the shivan main fleet for centuries before the events in freespace 1.
For all we know there might be THOUSANDS of MILLIONS of them; the Sathanass'es might have been plain COLONY SHIPS (as Petrach mentioned) and if this is true, then they have a vessel so large than it will Dwarf the Deathstar by hundreds of Kilometers (DS is ~150 KM in Diameter) (and probably has a shield generator :O) mounted with some ten thousand beam weapons...LOL!
Such a vessel must have a weapon SO DEVASTATING... this weapon would probably create Black Holes. No doubt about it :D
this is so intense. how the F*@# could the shivans build 80+ juggernauts in only 35 years?? when the Collosus took 20?? it was demolished in under a minute...
There are many aspects of video games (endings, cutscenes, superb gameplay) that really make picking a favorite tough, but this ending and the game itself to me was Perfect.
Supernovas... THE GREATEST, MIGHTIEST AND MORE POWERFUL "DISPLAY OF POWER" IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE...
Today I ended FS2 and man, the Shockwave really got my heart pumping!
Now I'm watching this video in sync with "Mars, the Bringer of War" by Gustav Holst and it really gives you a sense of "HOLY #%#"!!!!" in front of the Supernova!
PS: sorry 'bout my english. It's not my mother's tongue
There will NOT be a third game. EVER. Volition dropped the title when they collapsed. I'm just glad they didn't sell the license to Derek Smart. Go to Hard-Light . net to get all kinds of campaigns and mods for the game, like the SCP and FSPort.
... is......is halo a ripoff of freespace? think about it. subspace and slipspace are pretty much the same thing, and the shivans destroyed a solar system much like halo destroys the galaxy.
I imagine the Juggernauts that remained were either too damaged to make the jump, or simply overloaded under the stress. Once the star went nova their generators went completely black and their engines shut off. Maybe they were left behind as additional fuel for the supernova? As powerful as the Shivans are, there's no way they'd just waste Juggernauts like that (keep in mind they didn't even have the resources for a second Lucifer in FS1).
What are those ships and what were they doing to the star? It looked fine whatever they were doing than the ships just left for no reason and it exploded
That was exactly what they wanted: causing a supernova to destroy the entire system. What puzzles me more is why some juggernauts stayed and were destroyed instead of jumping out with the rest of the fleet.
One or two of the Juggernauts would have been enough to decimate the terran / vasudan alliance, yet they don't participate in the "battle". The prevalent hypothesis is that they use the power of the supernova to create a "super" portal to their home universe / dimension/ or sth. Some had to stay back to finish the job...
But then again, god(s) move in mysterious ways and this is the impression Shivans leave. Creatures of immense power, whose true agenda is beyond human speculation.
my money says a few of the juggernauts simply broke down from the strain of combining their power to cause the supernova; perhaps another glimpse of weakness to portray the shivans as overpowering, but not 100% invincible
If you look at them those that did not jump were running the green supernova generator after the ones that jumped shut theres down. Seems that whatever they are doing it takes a lot more energy to _initiate_ the effect than to continue it. Like pushing a car, takes less strength to start it rolling than to keep it moving.
Those that were _maintaining_ the effect had to stay doing so till the rest had jumped or begun jumping, whereupon they simply shut down.
For me it feels somehow like a show off, "dont mess with us, see what we can do, see how we dont even care about some worthless juggernauts". And why only show their power, and not simply destroy those tiniy little GTVA? Maybe managed Aken Bosch to talk with them, to convince them to give humanity (yes in his case probably only humanity :> ) a chance, leaving behind a warning who or what they will have to face if they misbehave.
The Shivans wouldnt destroy a system needed to eliminate the GTVA. Whose to say collapsing stars isnt a way to build a Jump Node. Notice How There was a jump node made in the nebula. nebula's are formed by stars that have gone super nova. But these answers should have been answered in FS3 but as we all know the game was abandoned and its players left with questions.
The supernova was unintented . You've got to agree - even by Shivan standarts , a juggernaut is hard to build . And surely , they wouldn't build more than they needed . What the Shivans were trying to do , we can only speculate . Most possible idea - they were trying to create an inter-system node to somewhere ( possibly Sol , to destroy it with the GTVA ) . But the Shivans lost one juggernaut , and another one was interrupted . So they didn't have enough power , and the star collapsed .
The Sol theory has a flaw: The GTVA has been seperated from Sol more than 3 decades at that point in story. While it'd be a welcome industrial asset, I don't consider Earth crucial to the GTVA.
Let's see... Earth has 10 bilion people. That's a lot, considering that the GTVA has only 10 milion in a "highly populated"(according to the campaign)Capella. And there are less populated systems, and some aren't even populated . While in Sol , they even have the Lucifer's debris. Sol can become even more powerfull than the GTVA, since they have Shivan debris to research, a lot of scientists, workers, etc.
And the Shivans need to destroy Sol anyway, to destroy the Terran race.
I respect your argument, but from where do you get your figures? Capella is, as of Freespace 2, home to more than threehundred million Terrans (just checked it with my copy of FS2)..
Ad Shivan technology, Earth got Lucifer's wreckage. The GTVA had the entire graveyard at their disposal. See the Kayser gun, the tech entry says it's based on Shivan technology.
Sol has the Shivan Lucifer's debris and can research stuff directly, while the GTA and PVN had to develop beam cannons themselves from what they knew. And people in Sol had no wars (possibly) and almost the same amount of people throughout the GTVA. So they could develop faster.
Not neccessarily. While the GTA/PVN, later GTVA, has the smaller manpower, Sol is isolated from the rest of the galaxy - the Lucifer debris is likely badly damaged. The GTVA on the other hand has the remains of the entire Shivan armada of the Great War at their disposal, sans the Lucifer. And considering the reference by a pilot in FS2, I find it likely that Volition retconned the universe, adding beam cannons to the shivan arsenal during the great war. :)
Same reason you light a barbique. They detonated Cappella so they could have a wild party of Beer, Spare-ribs, Stake, Burgers Music and Songs etc. No Terrans (other than Bosch) or Vasudans were invited
Well, for one, the Shivans are just zenocidal and they wanted to wipe that populated system. Two, that was the next system up to destroy since they would have continued on down the line if those portals weren't collapsed. The system with the nebula was probably product of another supernova caused by them.
I would like to see a game that takes place x years later, when the terran-vasudan alliance finally manages to build a "knossos" device to return to Earth, where they discover that something has gone TERRIBLY wrong
there's a mod (cant remember the name) where that exact thing happens.
The gate itself looks like it was based on an arcadia station, but it's aperture is large enough to fit a colossus through.
Of course, the terran/vasudan alliance has had 50 years of shared history, but earth itself had remained isolationist, so a civil war brakes out, to reclaim earth.
But I love yet hate the final mission; after dying litterly while warping out at the final 10 seconds I've gone through it all again and at this part once more.
I like how the rings around that planet were vaporized in 1:44 , nice touch
kram2k 2 months ago
i never understood why some shivan ships stayed behind.
yoshi314 2 months ago
@yoshi314 Power loss. Colapsing stars is a bit taxing, even for them.
npatrcevic 2 months ago
@yoshi314 to complete the process of the supernova
Alliedjon12 4 weeks ago
es muss ein neuer teil kommen das spiel ist sowas von der hammer vieleicht schon alt aber mit der heutigen grafik kann man schon was fetttes aus einem neuen teil machen love this game
TechnologieRenji 3 months ago
Wicked. Neutralized the star's gravity somehow, basically allowing the opposing repulsive forces to blow the star apart. All for our destruction, and even while costing thousands of their own.
INCREDIBLE last mission. Tried to save as many ships as I could but they just kept coming, and then you learn that much of it was in vain.
ColdCutz 7 months ago
@ColdCutz Nope, they didn't have to destroy the star in order to defeat the terran-vasudan alliance. Even with the help of the Colossus, it took a lot of effort to destroy just ONE of the Sathanas class warships. In the game, you see that they have at least 20. The two "dominant" theories are that either a) Shivans create nebula fields and then mine them for energy (they had miner ships in the nebula system that you visit soon after the Shivans reappear and....
Been2Hell 6 months ago
@Been2Hell
b) They use the star's energy to create some kind of "super-wormhole" that allows them to return to their homeland (this derives from the commander's speech in the "player returns" endgame video. Sth like "Maybe they are also exiles, trying to get back home".
Been2Hell 6 months ago
@Been2Hell or maybe they're just the friggind devil and in the next game you would find out they built a wormhole to the solar system and had destroyed earth, just sayin :P
webdoseujeito 2 months ago
Here's and interesting thought: What if the shivans are fighting other species in distant parts of the galaxy while fighting the GTVA? Maybe there are other subspace travelling races that are expanding interstellar empires which the shivans seek to destroy? The Shivan territory may be very large. For all anyone knows, the shivans could be the dominant force in the galaxy.
Jernklo2 7 months ago
I cannot rest until FS3 has been announced.
iAreRobb 9 months ago 2
6 people didn't made it to the subspace node :'( R.I.P.
epicfaceplant 9 months ago 3
anyone knows what the music is?
MrElectro98 1 year ago
idk if it's just me, but the sound of when the sun finally goes supernova is amazing.
Arsanthania 1 year ago 2
i ordered my squad to depart while i stayed behind, this was an epic game
MigueTK 1 year ago
I played this game back in 2000 one of the greatest space sim i ever played i saw a copy for $3.00 at w.w.w. 123save.webs.com
Prior to free-space i played Colony Wars another great space Sim (I am a veteran league fighter pilot i fought at d battle of Bennay and i was at the battle of Drako we lost many comrades but we crushed d savage navy Empire
80sbreaker 1 year ago
Well if the Shivan Juggernaut SJ Sathanas is the DEVIL of the Universe what could we expect if EVER a Freespace 3 would be made!
I mean guys, it could be THE mothership of the Shivans classified as "SM Diabolus" .. a behemoth easily 5 times the size of a Sathanas or equivalent class which easily surpasses the turret count of the sathanas/colossus by hundreds of (a-capital beam) turrets. It may also have a gigantic main beam cannon that has enough firepower to rip a hole through an entire star!
ajsknight 1 year ago
@ajsknight depends, i suggest getting Inferno modpack. take a look at a ship called the SSJ Gigas...
thenewalive 1 year ago
@thenewalive Well I will ;). Freespace 3 would be more interesting as you would have a complete storyline to those new super capital ships ;). I mean for me the epic storylines of FS 1 & 2 are easily on par with the Warcraft/Starcraft/Diablo/CnC/Half-Life/etc. series and I guess a FS 3 would simply be awesome to have.
But from all those different genres this game is in open space where you see kilometer long super capital ships with 80+ turrets duking it out against each other. Awe-inspiring!!!
ajsknight 1 year ago
@thenewalive ahh yeah and before I forget they have the most impressive weapons arsenal I've ever seen in any game and I have played the most popular games on the PC but nothing comes close the feeling when you HEAR and SEE the Charge-up animation of the DEVIL of the Universe the SJ Sathanas powering up its four frontal BFRED Main Beam guns - the most lethal weapons in the universe! ! ! Man this sound and the slashing beams ... wow ... no words can describe this in the LAST FRONTIER we know!
ajsknight 1 year ago
@ajsknight wepons more leathal than the Death Star?
aiwalk 1 year ago
@aiwalk The Death Star is not the end of all buddy ;). I mean the +80 Sathanas that destroyed an entire sun.
A sun is considerably bigger then a normal habitant planet and the Sathanas class Juggernauts are just resource fleet ships as far as I followed the space sim. They are not really battleships. I do not want to know what REAL BS size capital ships of the great destroyers (alias the Shivans) would look like. By the way beam cannons in this GAME are cool and sound intimidating ;).
ajsknight 1 year ago
@ajsknight yea i know I played the 1st 9 levels I think, great game, wish I could track a copy of the game but yea
aiwalk 1 year ago
@aiwalk
You could try Good Old Games.com
I got one from there for like 5/6 quid.
Then theres the SCP project for it.
Theres heaps of custom campaigns and stuff, some are fantastic (Blue Planet), and they update the graphics so it looks really nice aswell.
Krallis27 1 year ago
@thenewalive By the way the SH Gargant seems to be more impressive with 37 kms in length ;). My Goodness how long would I need with a Perseus to make ONLY once a complete fly by hehe :D ;). Really Awe-inspiring a dark sinister Shivan Monster that floats in space and has possibly some of the most powerful beam guns ever constructed ... well for this very reason we simply need a epic sequel with an even more EPIC storyline to introduce those ships in midst of a possible new invasion by the Shivans
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ajsknight 1 year ago
For the first time when I played I died, i knew that sub-space is interconected with gravity and vice versa, from the theory in the tech room, from the briefings I also knew that the Shivans are increasing subspace activity to unheard levels, out of the scale, not possible to being measured, I was thinking maybe they want to go somewhere else, create an art. jumpnode.
SupaCaliTomik 1 year ago
@SupaCaliTomik
To my horror I realized, when command informed me in the final moments of the game, that the radiation from the star is increasing at an exponential rate, that to perform a jump through a node the node must be in a place of gravitational equlibrium or entropy. It clicked to me but too late, when you create a subspace field like the sathanas did you implode normal space-time itself, well what is space-time, in fact everything.
SupaCaliTomik 1 year ago
@SupaCaliTomik SupaCaliTomik@
Even mater . Matter is made from organized energy, energy from curls of space-time in multiple dimensions(11). Last thing I said was: "Oh fuc............" and I was dead, repeating the mission.
SupaCaliTomik 1 year ago
I bet the shivans can make a sathanas in like 1 month...LOL
LOOK AT IT THEY HAVE 100! and they sacrifice some TOO
cKHyper 1 year ago
Yes!! Very much so agree.
ScarecrowB1 1 year ago
so many sathanas´ died.... why?
Jalthy 1 year ago
@DLanger88
A CYBORG race that isn't terrestrial.. lives in space, and has DESTROYED an ancient civilization 8000 years ago.. WHO KNOWS HOW OLD THEY ARE!
Their agenda is greater than that, I bet.. Think about it - they CONTACTED the humans during their last moments in the nebula - before all those Sathanass'es came out For all we know - they don't reply back to our comms, but if THEY comm'd then this means "|-|(_)/\/\@|\|5 \/\/1|_|_ @|_|_ |)13 |\|0\/\/"
Well, they must have jumped to Sol }:(
SVB222 1 year ago
I remember playing this on a demo disc i got in a cereal box :D I just couldnt find the full game after D:
Razzl3TheDazzl3 1 year ago
@Razzl3TheDazzl3 You got the demo in a cereal box? I've got nothing else to say.
TheLegolasguy 1 year ago
@TheLegolasguy I know right. lol
Razzl3TheDazzl3 1 year ago
i mean 1:36 to 2:20 is awsome
DrFlash54 1 year ago
1:56 To 2:20 is awsome
DrFlash54 1 year ago
This part was so cool. Yet I had to cheat to survive.
TheLegolasguy 1 year ago
i also like how it shows the true power of the shivans - during the whole storyline the humans come up with new weapons to try & compete but fact is the humans were NOTHING to them. lol
schwarzfalk 1 year ago 5
EPIC
this track has a VERY "alien" feel to it. fits the story & scene perfectly :) brilliantly conveys the power of these mysterious aliens with an equally mysterious agenda
schwarzfalk 1 year ago 4
Command: "Capella has gone supernova! Repeat! Capella has gone supernova! You must get to the node and get out of the system!"
Command: "This is command signing out, godspeed pilots"
(Radio silence)
This was not a game... this was ART!
Interplayfan 2 years ago 35
YOu forgot the
"DIVE, DIVE, DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT!"
No flight simulator comes close to FS and FS2 for it's drama and suspense.
KiraXBara456 2 years ago 5
@Interplayfan this was back when games were art. ur so right this game speaks to me like art. so amazing. more so freespace 1 though
GodsNotReal95 7 months ago
@Interplayfan I got chills during that part...
ALT-J!! ALT-J!!!
IidoTheFox 6 months ago 3
@Interplayfan One of the VERY few games that made me feel for it. I can think of a couple more that could do that: Loom, Star Control 2 and the Homeworld ones.
n3rdm4n 2 months ago
Of all the losses to the videogame industry, the death ( or apparent death) of this franchise due to licensing issues has to one of the greatest. Would people agree?
joehind1670 2 years ago 139
I do. Let us have hope in Secret Project X.
LordLucka 2 years ago
Agreed. Someone needs to acquire the rights for this and open up production. Hint, hint, software developers!
warhead001 1 year ago
@joehind1670 Yeah.
TheLegolasguy 1 year ago
@joehind1670 yes
same with mechwarrior :(
jimjamrocks 1 year ago
@joehind1670
Other then the fact I've never heard of this game in my life untill now? Sure...one of the greatest...
Berstich 1 year ago
@Berstich
Yeah, Freespace must be absolutely terrible if the mighty Berstich hasn't heard of it.
How can we possibly be so mistaken...
TheChickenfeed22 9 months ago
@joehind1670 volition is still alive arent they. they should put fs3 on xbox lol
GodsNotReal95 7 months ago
Shivans kick ass
Shivans kick Palpatine's ass.
Ardennerres 2 years ago
This simply proves that Freespace pwns Star Wars. A 900 kilometer Death Star could destroy a planet, 90 Sathanas juggernauts could destroy a sun.
Ardennerres 2 years ago 6
@Ardennerres hahahaha nice comment :D
ioulian 2 years ago
90+ juggernuaght is overkill to anything we have even imagined till now lol.nothing could stop that fleet.
henryhenriquez 2 years ago
I bet only one Sathanas could destroy the Death Star
ZeroCGR2 2 years ago 6
Omg this game is epic!!! I want a third part!!! ^^
MegaMapler2000 2 years ago 4
I own this game an it truelly is the best space sim of all time. Especially now that it's being actively developed. If you were unaware of this do a Google search for Hard Light Productions, FS Open, or Game-Warden.
GameSlayerGS 2 years ago
I think this is the video that plays if you fail to destroy the Lucifuer in subspace. or something
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
wtf are you talking about this is freespace 2, not freespace 1 and if you fail at killing the lucifer in fs1 you would just fail mission not a cinematic ending. this ending is freespace 2 ending where you either live or die in flaming glory
henryhenriquez 2 years ago
Relax.. not everyone has perfect memories.. haha. i used to play this game on my Pentium 2 !!!
(333 Mhz) like over a decade ago..
Even my PDA has enough firepower to run this now.... LOL
was this the ending though? i thought it played mid-mission on the final campaign... then after that you start running.. and then the final cinematics.
TerryH1984 2 years ago
i wasnt angry just surprised, this is fs2 ending, fs1 ending is lucifer blowing up, this is the end cutscene both cutscenes go after each other so you get this one then if you live you will the im alive one and if you die you get the i died in flaming glory
henryhenriquez 2 years ago
...That clears it, Shivans=Nomads
TheSuperSaiyan 2 years ago 3
You noticed the very same thing that any Freespace fan known from Freespace 1.
It was said by the Antients "For they are not a terrestrial species." "They were no ordinary enemy. They did not seek our territory, our technology, our resources." There is no doubts now.
Eglab 2 years ago
I remember theorizing about 7 years ago that they used the star as a gateway to head to the Sol system
TerryH1984 2 years ago
Me too-
LordLucka 2 years ago
@TerryH1984
HOLY CRAP!
Out of ALL things I was thinking about, this theory is SHOCKING!
:O
SVB222 1 year ago
I was they made a 3 to clarify but its clear they didnt do this to kill or warn the humans. Just one more of those bigger ships would have been enough to finish off both the human race and the vesuden that was clear with the story line. In the process with blowing up the sun they lost like 6 of those ships so I have a feeling that the humans and vessuden where nothing more then in the way of something else, whatever else, they where doing. The game just never said what it was.
SoulSeak 2 years ago
maybe they cross through the space and destroy every sunsystem again and again like reterraformers
MarsImperator2 2 years ago
the big question what happend after that...would the shivans continue to destroy solar systems or was that simply a warning to stop all internal fighting? (they only come when somone fight someone)
barak219 2 years ago
yikes!
lovenlaugh33 2 years ago
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xeosnake 2 years ago
More like Sephiroth is the wannabe, considering that his attempt to blow up a single planet (as opposed to a solar system, btw) was foiled by a spiky-haired brat and his collection of oddball party members.
Yorik1787 2 years ago
true hell what would sephiroth do agianst 1 sathanas?
henryhenriquez 2 years ago
Void his bowels and die?
Yorik1787 2 years ago
im playing it right now and i got to tell you i got killed more times from FRIENDLY anti fighter beams then anything else and oh yea random slash beams
henryhenriquez 2 years ago 3
probebly boarded it and slaughter everyone on that ship?
hunteranubis 2 years ago
probably eat beam cannon
henryhenriquez 2 years ago
Sephiroth DID NOT TRY TO DESTROY THE PLANET! He tried to injure the planet so that the lifestream would attempt to heal the planet and he can absorb the lifestream to gain the powers of a god.
Leongkm2 2 years ago
at 1:22 why didn't the other ships warp out? the other ships did. i just found it weird that 3 ships stayed to see the end of their demise.
c2thew 2 years ago 2
Power failure? Those 3 seem to go all black
MisterWilq 2 years ago 2
Lol
patmagh 2 years ago
it's almost sure: freespace 3 is in making.
new programmers are "The Omega Team"
lorebasket 2 years ago
No. Whoever put that video on youtube just tried to pass it on as FS3. It's really a campaign for SCP called Earth Defense
HeroSwe 2 years ago
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Kesho88 2 years ago
just download mods thats as close as you can get too freespace 3
242nd 3 years ago
*sigh* We need a Freespace 3.
IidoTheEevee 3 years ago 114
Damn right. Too bad Interplay, who hold the rights, is a skeleton right now. =\
Leekia 3 years ago 2
Yeah...:(
IidoTheEevee 3 years ago
How.. what... I didn't even think you were into freespace
Blackhole0173 3 years ago
Yep, I am. First played Freespace: The Great War when I was like, 11 or 12 I think...Always loved it and the sequel
IidoTheEevee 3 years ago 2
maybe they can team up with Ironclad or Stardock
after all they created Sins of a Solar Empire, really good space real time strategy game
wakato101 3 years ago
Hopefully
IidoTheEevee 3 years ago
Er... big differance between an RTS and a spaceflight sim. BIG. The only real similarity is the setting in outer space. Once you get past the appearance, if you think of it from a programmer's perspective, going from RTS to spaceflight sim would be quite impossible.
Leekia 2 years ago
@IidoTheEevee It's called the Mass Effect Trilogy.
HarmsDino 1 year ago
@IidoTheEevee we so much do.
Torsti2003z 10 months ago
Everyone see Volition finally announced they "would commit murder" to make a FS3? Everyone needs to get behind them. Google it. I think we finally might have it coming =)
EuphoricDan 10 months ago
@LordLucka 3): It has been stated by [V] that the Shivans are what we see in the hall fight cutscene.
As for the rest of your questions, I think the answer has to lie within the Hindu religion. One of their gods, Shiva, is known as the creator, the preserver and the destroyer. We've seen the Shivans destroy, the Ancients saw the Shivans preserve, and...?
Terrajin444 3 years ago
And if there is a fourth race, and the shivans just want to get back home... why did they destroy the Ancients? Why did they try to destroy the Terrans and Vasudans? There has to be more about this.
LeonSylon 3 years ago
Whart if they have just searched for their home and thought just like the Ancients did? Strange, hideous beings, and we are just expanding our glorious empire...
?
LordLucka 3 years ago
3) and the final for now. It is mentioned in FS2 Tech Room that the Shivans might have been "created" by another race. This might be significant since it has been mentioned...
What if - coz' they completely ignored our worlds - the Shivans only tried to go back home and fight for it such as the Hiigarans did in Homeworld? What if there is a 4th race? And if this is true, why did the scout unit of the Shivans went to Sol?
Is something there about that case? It is another blocked jump node...
LordLucka 3 years ago
2) Remember the capture of Bosch? It is said that "they've taken away Bosch, two namd persons, and "about a dozen others".
Bosch named the NTF as "a monster I am now powerless to stop". Who knows: he might have just asked the Shivans to annihilate the useless crew. If Bosch was captured... how did he have time to launch the self-destruct sequence?
And the Bosch+2+about a dozen looks more like a contingent than a group of hostages. What if Bosch just tried to make the alliance... and he done it?
LordLucka 3 years ago
he said that he created a monster, that he's now powerless to stop, and I don't think that he meant the NTF.
LeonSylon 3 years ago
What could he mean, then?
LordLucka 3 years ago
maybe he meant when he activated the subspace portal
filmfast 3 years ago
he CREATED that monster... not resurrecting or sg...
LordLucka 3 years ago
maybe it dosn't mean literally created, just activated
filmfast 3 years ago
i think the shivans maybe
toektoektoek 3 years ago
Some interessting ideas to think about:
1) Remember Lt. McCarthy from FS1? What did he want? To ally with the Vasudans agaist the unknown race. What happaned later? We allied with the Vasudans against the Shivans.
What did the HoL want? To break the alliance and join the Shivans.
What's Bosch's (and the NTF's) dream? TO BREAK THE ALLIANCE AND ALLY THE SHIVANS.
Volition already done this trick once with McCarthy. Can it be that this was their plan for the 3rd game? Thaey did plan to create one..
LordLucka 3 years ago 2
Furthermore, the shivans in freespace 1 were just a "scouting party" (according to the Freespace 2 story). So, the Shivans didn't build the 80 Sathanas in the 35 years interval between the two games. The ships could have been a part of the shivan main fleet for centuries before the events in freespace 1.
Been2Hell 3 years ago
@Been2Hell
For all we know there might be THOUSANDS of MILLIONS of them; the Sathanass'es might have been plain COLONY SHIPS (as Petrach mentioned) and if this is true, then they have a vessel so large than it will Dwarf the Deathstar by hundreds of Kilometers (DS is ~150 KM in Diameter) (and probably has a shield generator :O) mounted with some ten thousand beam weapons...LOL!
Such a vessel must have a weapon SO DEVASTATING... this weapon would probably create Black Holes. No doubt about it :D
SVB222 1 year ago
Remember that the shivans are about +8000 years old. They got enough time to build 80 Sathanas. They probably got more then 80 of them.
DT170x 3 years ago
The ancients are 8000+ years old. The ancients had inferior technology compared to the Shivans, so the Shivans could have been WAY older than that.
Been2Hell 3 years ago
this is so intense. how the F*@# could the shivans build 80+ juggernauts in only 35 years?? when the Collosus took 20?? it was demolished in under a minute...
Jebsax206 3 years ago
There are many aspects of video games (endings, cutscenes, superb gameplay) that really make picking a favorite tough, but this ending and the game itself to me was Perfect.
Interplayfan 3 years ago
Supernovas... THE GREATEST, MIGHTIEST AND MORE POWERFUL "DISPLAY OF POWER" IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE...
Today I ended FS2 and man, the Shockwave really got my heart pumping!
Now I'm watching this video in sync with "Mars, the Bringer of War" by Gustav Holst and it really gives you a sense of "HOLY #%#"!!!!" in front of the Supernova!
PS: sorry 'bout my english. It's not my mother's tongue
HectorFernandez1986 3 years ago 2
There will NOT be a third game. EVER. Volition dropped the title when they collapsed. I'm just glad they didn't sell the license to Derek Smart. Go to Hard-Light . net to get all kinds of campaigns and mods for the game, like the SCP and FSPort.
azile0 3 years ago
whats the green thing that the SJ sathanas did ?
suqrat29 3 years ago
it's a subspace disturbance that the shivans used to collapse the cappella star.
shadowknight1701 3 years ago
oh , okay thnx :D
suqrat29 3 years ago
... is......is halo a ripoff of freespace? think about it. subspace and slipspace are pretty much the same thing, and the shivans destroyed a solar system much like halo destroys the galaxy.
cayce81 3 years ago
Rather story of Mass Effect is a fuckin' copycat of those from FreeSpace.
Saren=Bosch
Reapers=Shivans
Propheans=Antients
Eglab 3 years ago
Rofl, yeah right cayce81. If we are gonna go that way, there are dussins of movies and games who could be potential ripoffs
getous 3 years ago
when i first finished this game i died in the end ... and after seing that end.... wow ...
got a could neck .... seing what shivans are capable of .... even gtva colosus didn´t help
.... pretty hart fights between supersiced battleship ...what do u want more...
ANOTHER FREESPACE GAME .... PART 3
this game was the best even after freelancer
(sry for bad spelling)
MrTBSC 3 years ago 3
@MrTBSC
This game came BEFORE Freelancer....!
SVB222 1 year ago
@SVB222 ... REALY ?... NO SHIT SHERLOCK ... WOOOOW ...
DIDN`T KNOW THAT... -_- ... and where did you read
that i said that freelancer came first??
or did you just wanna make yourself important?
MrTBSC 1 year ago
This was one of my favorite games of all time!! I still play this game every now and then. Thnx for posting the video :)
lostbeatsnrhymes 3 years ago 2
I imagine the Juggernauts that remained were either too damaged to make the jump, or simply overloaded under the stress. Once the star went nova their generators went completely black and their engines shut off. Maybe they were left behind as additional fuel for the supernova? As powerful as the Shivans are, there's no way they'd just waste Juggernauts like that (keep in mind they didn't even have the resources for a second Lucifer in FS1).
kellervo89 3 years ago
No, they sacrificed them because they're badass.
LordUmber 3 years ago
HERE IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!: Volition stated the Shivans are a symptom of a much bigger problem...
P.S: GREATEST GAME EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mjacki 4 years ago
if ya look at them when they dont jump, they turn dead black as if they died right there...almost like they're alive.
mjacki 4 years ago
What are those ships and what were they doing to the star? It looked fine whatever they were doing than the ships just left for no reason and it exploded
hiya33333 4 years ago
That was exactly what they wanted: causing a supernova to destroy the entire system. What puzzles me more is why some juggernauts stayed and were destroyed instead of jumping out with the rest of the fleet.
HatKeinenNamen 4 years ago
Those remaining Juggernauts stayed to make sure that the job was done
BloodMilitia 3 years ago 4
One or two of the Juggernauts would have been enough to decimate the terran / vasudan alliance, yet they don't participate in the "battle". The prevalent hypothesis is that they use the power of the supernova to create a "super" portal to their home universe / dimension/ or sth. Some had to stay back to finish the job...
But then again, god(s) move in mysterious ways and this is the impression Shivans leave. Creatures of immense power, whose true agenda is beyond human speculation.
Been2Hell 4 years ago 3
my money says a few of the juggernauts simply broke down from the strain of combining their power to cause the supernova; perhaps another glimpse of weakness to portray the shivans as overpowering, but not 100% invincible
jason11279 4 years ago
If you look at them those that did not jump were running the green supernova generator after the ones that jumped shut theres down. Seems that whatever they are doing it takes a lot more energy to _initiate_ the effect than to continue it. Like pushing a car, takes less strength to start it rolling than to keep it moving.
Those that were _maintaining_ the effect had to stay doing so till the rest had jumped or begun jumping, whereupon they simply shut down.
jjoshaugh 4 years ago
For me it feels somehow like a show off, "dont mess with us, see what we can do, see how we dont even care about some worthless juggernauts". And why only show their power, and not simply destroy those tiniy little GTVA? Maybe managed Aken Bosch to talk with them, to convince them to give humanity (yes in his case probably only humanity :> ) a chance, leaving behind a warning who or what they will have to face if they misbehave.
Uchujinsan 4 years ago
The Shivans wouldnt destroy a system needed to eliminate the GTVA. Whose to say collapsing stars isnt a way to build a Jump Node. Notice How There was a jump node made in the nebula. nebula's are formed by stars that have gone super nova. But these answers should have been answered in FS3 but as we all know the game was abandoned and its players left with questions.
Stelthxxx 4 years ago
IF you would have done your homework you'd know that the lack of FS3 isn't Volition's (yes, that is how it's spelled) fault.
WEKS87 4 years ago
The supernova was unintented . You've got to agree - even by Shivan standarts , a juggernaut is hard to build . And surely , they wouldn't build more than they needed . What the Shivans were trying to do , we can only speculate . Most possible idea - they were trying to create an inter-system node to somewhere ( possibly Sol , to destroy it with the GTVA ) . But the Shivans lost one juggernaut , and another one was interrupted . So they didn't have enough power , and the star collapsed .
ShadowGorrath 4 years ago
The Sol theory has a flaw: The GTVA has been seperated from Sol more than 3 decades at that point in story. While it'd be a welcome industrial asset, I don't consider Earth crucial to the GTVA.
ChallengerSTA 4 years ago
Let's see... Earth has 10 bilion people. That's a lot, considering that the GTVA has only 10 milion in a "highly populated"(according to the campaign)Capella. And there are less populated systems, and some aren't even populated . While in Sol , they even have the Lucifer's debris. Sol can become even more powerfull than the GTVA, since they have Shivan debris to research, a lot of scientists, workers, etc.
And the Shivans need to destroy Sol anyway, to destroy the Terran race.
ShadowGorrath 4 years ago
I respect your argument, but from where do you get your figures? Capella is, as of Freespace 2, home to more than threehundred million Terrans (just checked it with my copy of FS2)..
Ad Shivan technology, Earth got Lucifer's wreckage. The GTVA had the entire graveyard at their disposal. See the Kayser gun, the tech entry says it's based on Shivan technology.
ChallengerSTA 4 years ago
Sol has the Shivan Lucifer's debris and can research stuff directly, while the GTA and PVN had to develop beam cannons themselves from what they knew. And people in Sol had no wars (possibly) and almost the same amount of people throughout the GTVA. So they could develop faster.
ShadowGorrath 4 years ago
Not neccessarily. While the GTA/PVN, later GTVA, has the smaller manpower, Sol is isolated from the rest of the galaxy - the Lucifer debris is likely badly damaged. The GTVA on the other hand has the remains of the entire Shivan armada of the Great War at their disposal, sans the Lucifer. And considering the reference by a pilot in FS2, I find it likely that Volition retconned the universe, adding beam cannons to the shivan arsenal during the great war. :)
ChallengerSTA 4 years ago
The greatest story ever told in a game. The Shivans scare the crap out of me. That cinematic is fantastic. But why would they destroy that star...?
drpapa26 4 years ago
Same reason you light a barbique. They detonated Cappella so they could have a wild party of Beer, Spare-ribs, Stake, Burgers Music and Songs etc. No Terrans (other than Bosch) or Vasudans were invited
seph1r0th400 4 years ago
Well, for one, the Shivans are just zenocidal and they wanted to wipe that populated system. Two, that was the next system up to destroy since they would have continued on down the line if those portals weren't collapsed. The system with the nebula was probably product of another supernova caused by them.
ZetalZ 4 years ago
well any1 else went down with a bang i personaly like dying more then being a coward in that game
henryhenriquez 4 years ago
Great finale, great game.
I would like to see a game that takes place x years later, when the terran-vasudan alliance finally manages to build a "knossos" device to return to Earth, where they discover that something has gone TERRIBLY wrong
Been2Hell 4 years ago
Uh.. check out the custom campaigne "blue planet" - it has the exact same story..
BeniiSigma 4 years ago
Or Inferno. Evil Earth Alliance - Space romans and the the Shivans have the mothers orf all ships.
seph1r0th400 4 years ago
there's a mod (cant remember the name) where that exact thing happens.
The gate itself looks like it was based on an arcadia station, but it's aperture is large enough to fit a colossus through.
Of course, the terran/vasudan alliance has had 50 years of shared history, but earth itself had remained isolationist, so a civil war brakes out, to reclaim earth.
Khuratokh 2 years ago
Inferno.
LordLucka 2 years ago
@Khuratokh
Blue Planet: Age of Aquarius + War in heaven
SVB222 1 year ago
Its odd how some of the Juggernaughts just shut down completely and let them selves be destroyed by the super nova......Odd >.>
DreadlordofArch 4 years ago
Probably subsystem overloaded and were disabled.
But I love yet hate the final mission; after dying litterly while warping out at the final 10 seconds I've gone through it all again and at this part once more.
Sereryth 4 years ago
ok, question!!
which would you think would be more scary,
Halo or that FUCKING BIG SATHANAS FLEET!?!?
oshie15 4 years ago
im scarred of the limitless shivan fleet since they never end and can destroy stars on their own
henryhenriquez 4 years ago
definetly the fking fleet!!!
ymirnicko 4 years ago
Sathanas > any ship from Halo.
KiraXBara123 3 years ago
Correction: Sathanas > ANY ship.
ShadowGorrath 3 years ago 4
Dahak > Sathanas
Barricade 3 years ago
Meh. the Sathanas are fuekn awesome. But,
Andromeda Ascendent > Sathanas. The Andromeda is fukenn strong
demonicfork 3 years ago
wats a dahak?