Two pac has used this and it makes me cry how beautiful songs like this get morphed and molded to fit what some people, who don't give a shit about the actual meaning or feelings of the songs, think it should be . <3 Elton john And Bernie taupin Forvever!!!
Quando ascolto questa canzone le lacrime allagano la tastiera. Sembra di essere in una prateria e vedere cavalcare un pony impazzito con un giovane guerriero Sioux colpito a morte dai bianchi ...come recita Bernie Taupin nel testo " e pace a questo giovane guerriero con un buco di pallottola..."..Solo i veri artisti possono regalarci vere perle in Musica. Bravissimo Elton e bravissimo Bernie.
I'm actually in awe at the idiocy on some people after reading a few of these comments. Will it ever be possible that people can just listen to a great song without all these utterly pointless and pathetic arguments about supremacy.
Man.Weve done so much,yet so little.we killed each other for years,we still do,weve learned of murder,of extinction,and still so few try and fight it.we killed,we plundered,we took and did not replace,and we worshiped and used faith as a instrument of war.were monsters,but we are so beautiful,were capable of such good that my words cant even express,and evil so malevolent i can barely write of it.were the most complicated yet so simple beings to have ever graced at least this half of the galaxy.
@Winster51 LOL....that wasn't the interpretation you had in mind? C'mon man, get with it, I think he nailed it right on the head! ; D....."Good morning Rorsch, how are you?" .."The world is coming to an end through eighteen plagues and the moon is going to collide with the earth in six months, Obama is an evil alien sent to destroy democracy and the water is being poisoned by nuns...I'm no prophet...I'm just sayin'.." ; D
No race will ever be superior to one another. In the next year, or month or so, the world will either blow everything up to radiated bits, the rest of the people will reread the constitution in America, overthrow our government, then mass chaos will set in in America, and as everyone in the wold starts to overthrow oppressive governments, more genocides and massacres will result. I am no prophet in any way. Also, Countries are constantly losing "power" and gaining it.
These comments prove the world will never be at peace. Every race hates each other for all sorts of past crimes they all have committed and each one can't help but feel superior to all the other races. I am glad I'm a mutt, so I dont have to worry about any members of my race saying how 'superior' they are to everyone else.
@pakleglia Did you say the crusades were a response to "retard" Muslims taking over Europe? Jesus Christ. if you're that ignorant of the past then there's no point reasoning with you until you've educated yourself. Europe was in a period of Cultural and Economic decline, now known as the dark ages, while the Muslims were regarded as by far the most advanced Civilization of their time. Nowadays i think Muslim culture has regressed, but you would be a fool to call them retards.
@pakleglia Sand Monkey lol typical whites the whole world knows the intentions of us and british troops there all cowards as wikileaks prooves now go and forge another fake war for "democracy" coward
@pakleglia Muslims did to europe? ROFL what did they do? kill six million jews? slaughter 25 million peopel did they? or did they kill 500,000 iraqis?
Along with Tiny Dancer and Levon, one of my top 3 masterpieces from the album. And Elton's new album The Union, with Leon Russell, is great and #3 in the US
The white man is so quick to wash himself of all his actions so quick infact it barely crosses the mind how many people have been affected by there thirst of gold and oil 50 million 100 million ? its just a large number to them nothing else maybe one day when the poor rise aka poorer nations such as China they will remember the sacrifices of there grand fathers mothers and uncles aunts which lead to survive the coming white oblivion WE HAVE SURVIVED AND WE ARE COMING GERONIMO LIVES!!!!!
@MUJAHIDEEN7860 Every tribe and people have had a thirst for more, some have been more successful than others, natures law is survival of the fittest, whether that is intellect or strength or both. You speak of "Oblivion" towards a race of poeple that has been successful. The white man will always be...
@MUJAHIDEEN7860 Every tribe and people have had a thirst for more, some have been more successful than others, natures law is survival of the fittest, whether that is intellect or strength or both. You speak of "Oblivion" towards a race of people that has been successful. The white man will always be...
f--k tupac this isnt about tupac,tupac was blip on the screen,obtw Geronimo never got filled with lead he lived to a ripe old age doing wild west shows-----still a beautifull song
does Elton John realize that Geronimo never died due to bullets? sure he was shot up a few times, but he always survived. He died in 1909 by falling off a horse and spending a cold night in a ditch on a road. and then died of pneumonia.
THIS ALBUM IS LIKE ANY ALBUM PAP FOR THE MASSES THIS SONG IS ,IT IS IN NO WAY ACCURATE HISTORY WISE ..AND WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE TO REAL NATIVE AMERICANS THAT A ENGLISH HOMO WHOULD PROFIT FROM A FAKE SONG THE MUSIC OF THE 70S WASNT ANY BETTER THAN NOW ..ITS JUST WHAT WHAT U WERE TOLD WAS GOOD AND U BOUGHT TO MAKE THEM RICH ..NOTHING EVER CHANGES
Sir Elton John, this is the best song I have ever heard and I have heard them all...I just luv this song for some reason. I would have to say Madman across the water is my second then it be this song with Lion King hehehe. Peace and long life Sir Elton John :) My one only dream was to see you live. That will never happen, You will always live in my heart :) Always :) Stay safe ya hear!
Eminem used this song when making the Ghetto Gospel one, so he butchered Elton's vocals and made some sort of a chorus. I'm glad I looked the sample up, this song is beautiful.
he didn't. Tupac was dead long before this was used in a sample for the released version of Ghetto Gospel, in which his vocals were (disgracefully) slowed down to fit the beat to the point that it only just sounds like his voice. the unreleased original does not feature this song whatsoever.
I'm an Elton John and Tupac fan, and I can tell you I would never have given Elton John a second look past Rocket Man were it not for Tupac's "disgraceful" use of this song.
@fadeaway2112 can it really count as Tupac's use of the song if he had nothing to do with the creative decision to incorporate it on account of being..well...dead? =P
@fadeaway2112 i'm not entirely sure if you understood what that modifier referred to. what was 'disgraceful' was the slowing down of Tupac's vocals on the song to fit the slower beat prepared by Eminem, which is a reasonable criticism of a frankly sloppy decision made by a professional producer. you appear to be under the impression i was criticising the decision to use an Elton sample, which is not quite true.
@Corallis and to ensure i actually do mention Elton, Tumbleweed Connection, Madman Across the Water, Honky Chateau, Captain Fantastic and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road are all awesome. ^_^
My mistake. I will, however, do not see a big problem with the slowing of Tupac's vocals, but I am not musically trained except a year of high school chorus, lol. I can't speak for your musical experience.
@fadeaway2112 fair enough. all i'm trying to assert is that while slowing down vocals to the point of distortion to fit an instrumental would be acceptable for tribute made by an Internet amateur, it seems sloppy if by a professional producer who stated that he wished to show respect for the artist. it does not, however, come close to the other things Em did on that particular album, such as splicing bits of recorded speech together to make Tupac address him and G-Unit as though he knew them.
@fadeaway2112 and yes, this is a brilliant song. 'Madman' contains many of my favourite Elton/Bernie works, including Levon, Holiday Inn and the title track, but this one is exceptionally well-crafted and the closing verse emotionally harrows me every time. while Bernie's lyric is guilty of a few historical inaccuracies and oversimplifications, it is nevertheless a vivid illustration of such a dark chapter of Western history. a solid 5/5 from me.
I don't know a great deal of the songwriting history, but the historical account doesn't really bother me, I just view it as an alternative history. It doesn't play a big part in my enjoyment of the song though, as it's such a great musical piece.
yea my teach made us listen to this song n i love it its awesome
jojo3684 2 hours ago
amazing song. and amazing artist. Elton John and Billy Joel are my favorite musical artists.
keep on keeping on you two
hotballz1000 1 week ago
Two pac has used this and it makes me cry how beautiful songs like this get morphed and molded to fit what some people, who don't give a shit about the actual meaning or feelings of the songs, think it should be . <3 Elton john And Bernie taupin Forvever!!!
ThatAwkwardGeorgie 2 weeks ago
Quando ascolto questa canzone le lacrime allagano la tastiera. Sembra di essere in una prateria e vedere cavalcare un pony impazzito con un giovane guerriero Sioux colpito a morte dai bianchi ...come recita Bernie Taupin nel testo " e pace a questo giovane guerriero con un buco di pallottola..."..Solo i veri artisti possono regalarci vere perle in Musica. Bravissimo Elton e bravissimo Bernie.
Perfidia4ever 1 month ago
This is a brilliant song and a masterpiece of an album. One of the greatest ever written. This by far his best work.
nitajohns 3 months ago
5:50 great song!
AboSaud33 5 months ago
this is an awesome song, i love it!
bonnie12650 5 months ago
1971. John. Taupin. Dudgeon. Buckmaster. BRILLIANCE. Just brilliance...They told the story of LITTLE BIG MAN before there even WAS a movie about it!
Survivor2002 6 months ago 2
Always did remind me of my native ancestry.
MrStan811 7 months ago
This is magic.
GrandiosaTilFrokost 7 months ago
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I'm actually in awe at the idiocy on some people after reading a few of these comments. Will it ever be possible that people can just listen to a great song without all these utterly pointless and pathetic arguments about supremacy.
BlueEonApocalypse 8 months ago
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BlueEonApocalypse 8 months ago
Man.Weve done so much,yet so little.we killed each other for years,we still do,weve learned of murder,of extinction,and still so few try and fight it.we killed,we plundered,we took and did not replace,and we worshiped and used faith as a instrument of war.were monsters,but we are so beautiful,were capable of such good that my words cant even express,and evil so malevolent i can barely write of it.were the most complicated yet so simple beings to have ever graced at least this half of the galaxy.
666devilfabricater 9 months ago 2
it took an englishman to tell the story of native americans. what are we? my wife was native american, and she was ashamed of it.
MrCatdog08 9 months ago 13
You are on Indian land!!!
bigredoneder 10 months ago
This makes me feel so sad. Such powerful imagery evoking great loss.
whakarongo100 10 months ago
just one of those gems
jodonte1 10 months ago
This is my favorite song by Elton by all time, the dynamics on this osng are incredible!
groundhog713 11 months ago 2
Fantastic song, beautiful vocals.
2Pac's "Ghetto Gospel" is beautiful song too, respect for both artists.
GoodGuitarSolos 11 months ago 7
Wow Rorsch, You must be a pleasent person to be with? I mean, with the gloom n doom cloud over ya in all...
There is many was to interpret this song and your interpretation did not ever cross my mind ;) Peace :)
Winster51 11 months ago
@Winster51 LOL....that wasn't the interpretation you had in mind? C'mon man, get with it, I think he nailed it right on the head! ; D....."Good morning Rorsch, how are you?" .."The world is coming to an end through eighteen plagues and the moon is going to collide with the earth in six months, Obama is an evil alien sent to destroy democracy and the water is being poisoned by nuns...I'm no prophet...I'm just sayin'.." ; D
celloprofundo 10 months ago
No race will ever be superior to one another. In the next year, or month or so, the world will either blow everything up to radiated bits, the rest of the people will reread the constitution in America, overthrow our government, then mass chaos will set in in America, and as everyone in the wold starts to overthrow oppressive governments, more genocides and massacres will result. I am no prophet in any way. Also, Countries are constantly losing "power" and gaining it.
Rorschach25739 1 year ago
Dancing Like Whiskey
The white man and i are one
We are blood brothers
from dawn to setting sun
sons of different mothers
We are twin stars
lost among the strong women
dancing like whiskey in the bars
M.S. Morrison
michaelsmorrison 1 year ago
These comments prove the world will never be at peace. Every race hates each other for all sorts of past crimes they all have committed and each one can't help but feel superior to all the other races. I am glad I'm a mutt, so I dont have to worry about any members of my race saying how 'superior' they are to everyone else.
HaloLovingFanatic 1 year ago
2 people are Americans
abu7zboon 1 year ago
@abu7zboon Woah, i love Elton John's early work and i'm an American. Country has nothing to do with how awesome Elton John sings.
salsa1995t 10 months ago 3
Funny how this song is not related to Muslims, Islamic history, slavery, or the Crusades at all, but yet you people are arguing about it. Just funny.
BigTymerPimp 1 year ago 4
@pakleglia lol the greatest scientist of our age ibn cina was a muslim loooooool fail again lies and more white lies
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
Tupac Shakur Ghetto gospel
RomeoAka150 1 year ago
@pakleglia Did you say the crusades were a response to "retard" Muslims taking over Europe? Jesus Christ. if you're that ignorant of the past then there's no point reasoning with you until you've educated yourself. Europe was in a period of Cultural and Economic decline, now known as the dark ages, while the Muslims were regarded as by far the most advanced Civilization of their time. Nowadays i think Muslim culture has regressed, but you would be a fool to call them retards.
farhang1 1 year ago
@pakleglia Sand Monkey lol typical whites the whole world knows the intentions of us and british troops there all cowards as wikileaks prooves now go and forge another fake war for "democracy" coward
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
@pakleglia BAHAHAHA muslims sold 50 Million slaves to europe WHITE LIES yet again please stop trying to worm your way out of your massacres
Osama Bin Laden is like a little mouse compared to the Monsters of the western imperialists !
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
@pakleglia lol history please dont go there its littered with the crimes of the white devil
to name but a few
Slavery : killed 50 million africans
Colonialism: mishandling of Indian crops led to the starvation of 15 million indians as the crops were exported to barren waste land england
Holocaust: six million jews killed by white Hitler
Spaniards aka white cunts: killed 25 million latinos and raped millions of women
Osama Bin Laden can only wish of this well done White man XD
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
@pakleglia LOL lies WHITE LIES where did you get this rubbish from?
White people are the worlds first terrorists end off (and the most vicious of all)
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
@pakleglia lol seems like the truth is getting you angry Muhammaed did not kill 150 million people WHITE GREED did
If you want some details of this massacre just say
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
@pakleglia lol are you sure? so osama killed 150 million people? lol he wishes that he was so destructive as the white devil ROFL
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
@pakleglia Muslims did to europe? ROFL what did they do? kill six million jews? slaughter 25 million peopel did they? or did they kill 500,000 iraqis?
Man your seriously delluded
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
I played this album until it was ruined. I couldn't get enough. Funny thing is I can't stand him.
sbtdesigns 1 year ago
@sbtdesigns Why can't you stand him?
ajpianoman1 1 year ago
The lyrics is so EPIC... And the finer - piano playing is so sad and EPIC .... The story and all.. It's all so EPIC !
mortenkul 1 year ago 2
Along with Tiny Dancer and Levon, one of my top 3 masterpieces from the album. And Elton's new album The Union, with Leon Russell, is great and #3 in the US
mizofan 1 year ago
The white man is so quick to wash himself of all his actions so quick infact it barely crosses the mind how many people have been affected by there thirst of gold and oil 50 million 100 million ? its just a large number to them nothing else maybe one day when the poor rise aka poorer nations such as China they will remember the sacrifices of there grand fathers mothers and uncles aunts which lead to survive the coming white oblivion WE HAVE SURVIVED AND WE ARE COMING GERONIMO LIVES!!!!!
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
@MUJAHIDEEN7860 Every tribe and people have had a thirst for more, some have been more successful than others, natures law is survival of the fittest, whether that is intellect or strength or both. You speak of "Oblivion" towards a race of poeple that has been successful. The white man will always be...
Lifesinhere 1 year ago
@Lifesinhere ermm the white man is dying race China is growing and soon enough Asia will dominate....so osama bin laden is not a terrorist in my view
MUJAHIDEEN7860 1 year ago
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@MUJAHIDEEN7860 Every tribe and people have had a thirst for more, some have been more successful than others, natures law is survival of the fittest, whether that is intellect or strength or both. You speak of "Oblivion" towards a race of people that has been successful. The white man will always be...
Lifesinhere 1 year ago
more eye watering
davehiby 1 year ago
this is so sad
davehiby 1 year ago
f--k tupac this isnt about tupac,tupac was blip on the screen,obtw Geronimo never got filled with lead he lived to a ripe old age doing wild west shows-----still a beautifull song
liberalsrscum1 1 year ago
@liberalsrscum1 Geronimo were.
mortenkul 1 year ago
am i there?
crissxpq 1 year ago
this song was meant for the natives .not 2 pac rip..you abviously have access to the internet look it up .....
TheOlmecindian 1 year ago
some tips for life sent me here
TheRydog100 1 year ago 3
does Elton John realize that Geronimo never died due to bullets? sure he was shot up a few times, but he always survived. He died in 1909 by falling off a horse and spending a cold night in a ditch on a road. and then died of pneumonia.
SBandstraProductions 1 year ago
@SBandstraProductions Yes! I was gonna say that. So thank you for doing so.
nocturnallyinsane 1 year ago
THIS ALBUM IS LIKE ANY ALBUM PAP FOR THE MASSES THIS SONG IS ,IT IS IN NO WAY ACCURATE HISTORY WISE ..AND WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE TO REAL NATIVE AMERICANS THAT A ENGLISH HOMO WHOULD PROFIT FROM A FAKE SONG THE MUSIC OF THE 70S WASNT ANY BETTER THAN NOW ..ITS JUST WHAT WHAT U WERE TOLD WAS GOOD AND U BOUGHT TO MAKE THEM RICH ..NOTHING EVER CHANGES
arnoldkevin1 1 year ago
This album is one of Elton's best and it is a masterpiece, Listen to the words and enjoy the wonderful music. One of my favorites of all time.
wnorman6 1 year ago
The piano in this song is absolutely beautiful. This song is definitely one of Elton's most under rated masterpieces.
rbridges07 1 year ago
THE ANOYING ORANGE ANOYS ELTON JOHN!
gotthkid2 1 year ago
On the LP, I always loved how this song built to a crescendo, ended abruptly then went right into "Holiday Inn"
rowdymax1 1 year ago
This early EJ/Taupin song hooked me for the duration!
SunnyDays951 1 year ago
Madman Across The Water is an amazing album.
tenthirtyatepm 1 year ago
Ancestral, emotiu, visceral....
minavidal 2 years ago
Amazing song, one of my favourites. I swear they don't make music like this anymore.
almj9 2 years ago 2
A beautiful song! As is the entire album, a masterpiece
Tammerajean 2 years ago 34
@Tammerajean
As you say a beautiful song!. Still have the original vynal. love it!!!!!!!!
gordon5354 1 year ago
Masterpiece !!! Nobody like Elton.(Early songs are fab).Rock On...
Perfidia4ever 2 years ago
Eminem? Tupac? this song was done in this form in 1971-- get a grip!!!
bapakeith 2 years ago
It's the most beautiful song I have ever heard :)
EtoileLituanienne 2 years ago 2
made me weep in my teens still dose
MrKeithmcmillan 2 years ago
Sir Elton John, this is the best song I have ever heard and I have heard them all...I just luv this song for some reason. I would have to say Madman across the water is my second then it be this song with Lion King hehehe. Peace and long life Sir Elton John :) My one only dream was to see you live. That will never happen, You will always live in my heart :) Always :) Stay safe ya hear!
Winster51 2 years ago 2
Eminem used this song when making the Ghetto Gospel one, so he butchered Elton's vocals and made some sort of a chorus. I'm glad I looked the sample up, this song is beautiful.
evilsquirrel56231 2 years ago 3
NOT Eminem . . . Tupac !
lornesch 2 years ago
Eminem produced the track
SUPAKILLATRON 2 years ago
What are you - lenilenape - going to do. Criticizing is easy, solutions take action. It's up to you now.
tenthirtyatepm 2 years ago
What am I going to do?
Live in a tent in rural Oregon.
Ride a bike, be a vegetarian.
Thats what, for starters.
lenilenape 2 years ago
The Native Americans were not vegetarians
Sshelly34213 2 years ago
Amazing peice of music.
energyplusmore 2 years ago
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Now, what will we do to rectify our sins against the native Americans?
Anything?
Or just is this song just a nice salve on our consciences and we can move on to the next song to tickle our feelings?
lenilenape 2 years ago
before you go damning us, tell us what you personally have done to rectify your sin?
legionjdw 2 years ago 3
Well, how about living much like the Native Americans did?
Like living in a tent in the middle of the woods with a woodstove, solar panels, all sitting on a deck.
I have not sinned.
lenilenape 2 years ago
your tent has internet access?
legionjdw 2 years ago 2
My tent could have internet access.
lenilenape 2 years ago
He was laying down his weapons when they filled him full of lead.
Native American definition of gold: "Yellow rock that makes white man crazy."
lenilenape 2 years ago
Wow, Eye am not sure why everyone is jumping all over you. Oh, well, take it in stride. Some folks just need education.
strummeresque 2 years ago
I like to drill down into the core.
Truth hurts.
Peace
lenilenape 2 years ago
Tupac sampled this. Getto gospel.
Great song. I wonder how tupac found it?
lukeletourneau 3 years ago
he didn't. Tupac was dead long before this was used in a sample for the released version of Ghetto Gospel, in which his vocals were (disgracefully) slowed down to fit the beat to the point that it only just sounds like his voice. the unreleased original does not feature this song whatsoever.
Corallis 3 years ago 15
@Corallis
I'm an Elton John and Tupac fan, and I can tell you I would never have given Elton John a second look past Rocket Man were it not for Tupac's "disgraceful" use of this song.
fadeaway2112 1 year ago
@fadeaway2112 can it really count as Tupac's use of the song if he had nothing to do with the creative decision to incorporate it on account of being..well...dead? =P
Corallis 1 year ago
@Corallis
Okay, Tupac's producers. (I believe Eminem had something to do with it.) Either way, I don't think it's disgraceful, at all.
fadeaway2112 1 year ago
@fadeaway2112 i'm not entirely sure if you understood what that modifier referred to. what was 'disgraceful' was the slowing down of Tupac's vocals on the song to fit the slower beat prepared by Eminem, which is a reasonable criticism of a frankly sloppy decision made by a professional producer. you appear to be under the impression i was criticising the decision to use an Elton sample, which is not quite true.
Corallis 1 year ago
@Corallis and to ensure i actually do mention Elton, Tumbleweed Connection, Madman Across the Water, Honky Chateau, Captain Fantastic and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road are all awesome. ^_^
Corallis 1 year ago
@Corallis
My mistake. I will, however, do not see a big problem with the slowing of Tupac's vocals, but I am not musically trained except a year of high school chorus, lol. I can't speak for your musical experience.
Either way, this is a great song.
fadeaway2112 1 year ago
@fadeaway2112 fair enough. all i'm trying to assert is that while slowing down vocals to the point of distortion to fit an instrumental would be acceptable for tribute made by an Internet amateur, it seems sloppy if by a professional producer who stated that he wished to show respect for the artist. it does not, however, come close to the other things Em did on that particular album, such as splicing bits of recorded speech together to make Tupac address him and G-Unit as though he knew them.
Corallis 1 year ago
@fadeaway2112 and yes, this is a brilliant song. 'Madman' contains many of my favourite Elton/Bernie works, including Levon, Holiday Inn and the title track, but this one is exceptionally well-crafted and the closing verse emotionally harrows me every time. while Bernie's lyric is guilty of a few historical inaccuracies and oversimplifications, it is nevertheless a vivid illustration of such a dark chapter of Western history. a solid 5/5 from me.
Corallis 1 year ago
@Corallis
I don't know a great deal of the songwriting history, but the historical account doesn't really bother me, I just view it as an alternative history. It doesn't play a big part in my enjoyment of the song though, as it's such a great musical piece.
fadeaway2112 1 year ago
@Corallis : still ghetto gospel was a touching song that reached my heart.
OcyrixV3 1 year ago
LOOOOOOVELY!!! <3<3<3
BigWestlifeFan 3 years ago 2
I LOVE HIS TALENT!!!
superpages18 3 years ago
elton john iz tha shit he uses a verse from this when he features in tupacs ghetto gospital. thiz iz tha shit yo
fromdust2dust 3 years ago
you right. elton's good.. he should compose more storytelling-songs
Vote1Obama 3 years ago
bernie taupin wrote the lyrics.
txeire 3 years ago 3
ya taupin is a genius eh? I love Elton and Bernie they are musical gods
kwillyou22 3 years ago
:D Stereotypes. I know it was a different time, but it's still funny how "Indian" it is.
I do like the song, BTW.
SKIPSUBxxx 3 years ago