That dude on the black pants isnt fit for this kind of fighting. He knows nothing. ON the ground he looks pathetic and when they stand up he got knocked by a groundfighter. I bet this dude does Wing Chun. Cuz Wing Chun fighters are NO fighters. They believe in fantasie stuff.
almost all taichi schools don't teach practical combat skills, nor include sparring in their usual training, most taichi practitioners i know do it more as an exercise than a martial art and almost all don't really understand it as a fighting skill. what make it worse in this case is he was up against a ground fighter which, to be fair, most martial artists would have problem with.
The guy who lost is full of shit.. he's defenceless ... A coward bitch fighter.. I've never seen a fight fighting without being able to fight except for this
@MechPhantom it is sad most chinese kung fu have been down graded to almost nothing now. however they are still useful doesnt matter which style. you just have to find a true master like rangring did. but it is like finding needle in hay stack. normally these masters are very private. if you do dont let him go. i was really lucky to found one too.
@RangRing68 nice i wanted to learn wing chun long ago. never found a good master. do you know leung wan kam？ he is one of very few good wing chun masters.
right, some havent met the real thing. they think it should be like mma but its not. its much deeper that is why not many can learn the true art. kungfu involves dao philosophy, concept, and internal energy, not just about forms. in old days masters fought on platform but there were no rules, no gloves, no protection, no rounds or referee. they had to sign a death waiver. fight ends in few seconds. they did it not for audience but for fame, test skill, being challnged or settle score.
@TaichiJing They filmed some of these old "dangerous' lei tai matches. I have seen them. There were rules. As soon as one person touched the ground or fell down , they lost. Which is why most all traditional kung fu does not have ground grappling. It is a cultural influence that they believe once you touch the ground you lose. But that is a weakness in a real street fight. If you do not know ground grappling you can easily lose your life if your opponent does know grappling.
Itl's all about who your teacher is. all the martial arts work when you study it and make it your own just as Bruce lee did. For someone to say Kung Fu is useless is not very wise because. there are a lot of kung fu players who can do some serious damage. I have seen wing chung and akido instructors who made small mods to there applictions to make them work in modern fighting situations.
@PeterSwelz your real funny so many people base their ideas on a you tube video
like i said before @ our Dojo we train for real none stop. so stop making judgements on a style just because you saw it done wrong on you tube every body does not train the same. like i said if you have a realistic instructor you'll be fine. 2 teachers do not teach the same.
Without actual combat experience, it doesn't matter how good the guy's Taichi is. No martial arts are exempt from this fact. Mr. Tachi is obviously inexperienced. Mr. BJJ is obviously very experienced and he showed himself to be unarguably well-versed in BJJ. Sorry Mr. Taichi, you lose here.
Maybe there is hope for the Chinese Martial arts. It is funny and sad that it takes another Chinese trained in Western/BJJ Martial arts to beat them senseless before they will admit their traditional arts are inferior. One day the worthless Chinese martial arts will be dead and buried. As they deserve to be.
@PeterSwelz well peter, i dont think you've been around long enough or experienced the Chinese arts. if you have, then most likely you wouldnt be talking shit. there is no such thing as one martial art being better than the other. its about the better practioneer of whatever martial art they do. i imagine you earned a black belt in Youtubequanbjj dodo? go play Mortal Combat cause thats the only place your gonna be able to kick ass at...stay off the streets too ok kiddo.
@PeterSwelz no, you have not been around, i can just tell. call me champ cause i aint no shit spewer like yourself. chump? what are you getting at kiddo?
@RangRing68 Yeah you're no chump. Keep deluding yourself. Keep believing in Chinese Kung Fu hocus pocus dim mak push hands goofy ass drills n shit. Lolz.
@PeterSwelz ok master blah blah blah blah just keep makin horseshit comments when everybody else here cant understand you anyways because they only comment in Chinese because they dont speak english....duuuh! even i can barely understand your macho bullshit babble. go hang yourself with that white belt you've been wearing since forever rookie fake. or atleast grow a pair already ya snot nosed- roll around with other guys, bjj/ doodoojitsu turd plunger.
@RangRing68 Not only do the chinese probably not understand me.. (good observation, chump-champ.) but my words are apparently not getting through to you. You are a sad arrogant turd why don't you go sit in the corner and role play kung fu movies with your star wars figures? By the way, I would never hang myself to give you satisfaction, being alive really pleases me. Your next order is to go to a bjj or judo club, mma gym or a muay thai gym and pick a fight or spar. Report back to me ASAP.
@PeterSwelz still blabbering little doggy? yip yip yap yip yip yip with your little tail between your legs? still trying to beat me up from a computor in mom and dads basement? well its working boo hoooo.... give me a time and place boo hoooo, im shakin in my panties!
@RangRing68 I don't have the time or place to teach you anything. Do your own research. The chinese arts have too much b.s. and not enough realistic training. Continue to be deluded. They need people like you to pay their bills.
@PeterSwelz you dont have time to teach me? did i ask? i am the instructor here. i have been doing it since before you were swimming around in your pop's shorts. the stuff you do didnt come from "Brazil" and Japanese or Korean arts were not developed out of thin air from their homeland, they got their ideas from China. as far as martial arts, China is where it all started and without China, there would be no mma muscleheads like you crying superiority over every other art. sad.
@RangRing68 Everyone knows that bjj came from judo. Judo is from japanese wrestling and may have some chinese wrestling influence. Chinese wrestling comes from mongolian and chinese wrestling. Kung fu is the chinese version of Indian arts (that are still practiced in India) that predate kung fu. Greek and western wrestling have been influenced by Indian arts as well. If you want to claim an originator claim India. Basically all cultures "base" art goes back to wrestling/grappling. Now you know.
@PeterSwelz yeah i know the history on the indians influencing the chinese but the chinese took it and made it their own "slam dunked it" so to speak. most people dont know or dont care for the indian style (which never evolved like kung fu did) anyways, thats why i didnt mention it. i know all about bjj too smartass. who cares about wrestling/grappling? fights start while you're on your feet, not on the ground in sexual mma positions. i have mopped the floor with y'all.
@RangRing68 "mopping the floor " with who? Indian systems have all the stuff kung fu has if u do a little research. What about the Thais? Simple muay thai fighters destroyed the Chinese kung fu masters in the 1970s.San shou fighters have tried to beat muay thai but they only succeed when they alter the rules (no elbows, knees) Your argument is falling apart tough guy. Fights can start from any position. Better to be prepared for all types of situations and not be afraid of getting called homo.
@PeterSwelz oooh, did i strike a nerve youngun? i have "mopped the floor" with muscleheads like you or putting it simply- "beat up". fights dont start on the ground while in the missionary position. im not a tough guy, im just very realistic, far more experienced than you who only hates little brat kids talking shit about something they dont know enough about in the first place. so little brat, if kung fu was too hard for you...GET OVER IT! just enjoy the lower level mma stuff u do.
@RangRing68 The only thing you can strike is your own willy when your wife isn't putting out for ya chump. I've seen the high and low of martial arts. A fight is a fight it's not brain surgery. If you knew as much as you like to make people think you do, you would be mopping the floor with the likes of Randy Couture and other MMA champs, he's an old fart like you. Why aren't you making a ton of money in the ufc and other events if you are so special. Just an internet warrior is all you are. LOL
@PeterSwelz hello little brat! i may be an old fart but i do get paid to to teach. ufc is afraid of me i guess, wont send me an invitation just like you.
@RangRing68 Doing something for a long time does not make it valid. Plenty of people shoot blackpowder rifles, yet you don't see blackpowder rifles being used by any military for combat operations. You can drive a Model T Ford around yet you don't see anyone using a Model T's as normal workday vehicles. There are idiots born before me and there will be idiots born after me. Whats your point?
@PeterSwelz damn pete, would you knock off the metaphorical bullshit for once? bottom line is, you talk shit about chinese martial arts yet you never practiced or understood it. its like picking up a book and saying "this sucks" before even reading it. ihave done korean and japanese styles before settling on chinese. you have not done chinese but you still shit all over the art.
@RangRing68 If you re read one of my original post I stated that I have studied the chinese arts. Been there done that. Along with many other systems. The chinese arts are truly lacking. Too much fantasy wristlocks, mystical chi bullshit and death point crap. Kung fu guys fall apart against people with basic boxing and grappling skills. I shit on the art because they need to wake up out of their fantasy. Too many "masters" out there taking people's hard earned money and passing on useless skills
@PeterSwelz you're right about one thing and one thing only- there are too many "masters" out there who arent genuine, who rip alot of gullible folks. i was lucky enough to have learned from one that was the real deal from China. you wouldnt be talking out of your ass if you had a sifu like the one had. chi is real, u just never learned how to use. chinese arts are more sophisticated than mma/bjj and take more time to master. u abandoned the hard stuff for the easier no brainer mma.
@PeterSwelz i never said i trained with many masters. just one. seems to me that u are a young, scrawny, pimple faced punk pretending to be some mma fighter with all the answers. you started it, not me.
@RangRing68 I never said I have all the answers. I only stated that "chinese martial arts" need to be woke the fuck up. As they do. Otherwise BJJ white belts will keep handing them their asses. As this one did. Know your enemy. Quit fantasizing that I am some scrawny pimple faced kid you can beat up easily. Project much?
@PeterSwelz - Mere strength & size doesnt mean victory. Ive beaten several guys that were nearly or more than 2x my mass w/ ease, due to superior WC kung fu techniques. The problem isnt the art, its the artists lackings & misunderstandings. And its stubborn fools like yourself, that solidify who needs to really be woken up.
@MechPhantom he was a student of Wong Shun Leung in Hong Kong many years ago. moved to the U.S a few years ago and i have been taking private lessons from him. he is beyond good. he did the 1 inch punch while i held up a phone book to my chest and knocked me on my ass. he barely flicked his wrist when he did it, felt like sledgehammer hit me. i can do it also. he teaches Wing Chun and he is the real deal nothing fake. u dont always have to go to China to find a great sifu.
@RangRing68 Oh ! wing chun, i only know WC really works, along with CLF and hung gar , the rest of kung fu for me is BS honestly very sorry if i have offended you, even shaolin monks these days are BS too, nothing but wushu monks that cant fight and only perform. But i know WSL is a teacher to bruce lee if im not wrong and hes pretty good . So yea If ur refering that WSL is a real master i gotta agree. The rest no haah. Wing chun owns, btw what kind of MA do you study?
@RangRing68 continued, that guy u speak of, WSL's student , he does only wing chun is it? thx cool experience man =) hope to find real masters someday ,and not wushu crap haha
@RangRing68 The telephone book thing. a good selling point in wc. It's more like a trick. Hard to pull off in a real situation. I also learned from a student of WSL. And other students of Yip Man. If you can really pull off the stuff in a real situation, great.I see u are a "true believer" in kung fu. Maybe you will see the truth one day. Now I know you have never challenged yourself or your skills in a good boxing or muay thai gym. Try it.
@PeterSwelz i told you already, i have mopped the floor with muscle heads like you. ok? the one inch punch- thats not all i know. there is poor wc and there is good wc. the guy in the video who was defeated... his kung fu was bad. im not a "true believer" in kung fu as if it was some fake art. im a believer because i worked really hard at it and it turned out to be better than all the other arts i practiced. i train with a muay thai fighter friend of mine twice a month :)
@RangRing68 GREAT to know. ENJOY your wing chun and pray you never have to fight against a trained fighter with experience. It's fun being in the wing chun bubble until it gets popped.
@PeterSwelz - WC was meant to be taught to fighters who already had strong martial arts foundations. I can take any decent fighter, and make him 1000x a better fighter with WC training. Thats Fact. WC techniques & theory can be proven every time. It only fails, when its not being performed & used correctly.
@PeterSwelz no bubble surrounding me Tito. so you're knockin' out black belts now huh? with your thumb and finger muscles while holding on to a vedeo game control most likely. so my little badass from behind the keyboard, its about time we meet dont you think? like i said earlier (and your pussy ass didnt respond) name the time and place. i'll come to you. send me a personal message with all info. i got the time.
@RangRing68 A belt means nothing. And I told you I don't have the time to teach you anything. Do your own research. Go to a real boxing gym or muay thai camp or a BJJ school. See for yourself. I don't do "meetings" with freaks from the internet. I guess you can wonder forever.
@PeterSwelz - Boxers & Muay Thai dont have much Real in them. They are sport. They leave their groins wide open for an easy attack. They practice on soft heavy bags, tape their wrists up & pad their fists.. so they dont get hurt. KF trains Barefist on sandbags, filled w/ hard coarse sand or metal bbs mounted to concrete walls. (no pivot, sway, or moving... just SOLID heavy collisions) Some of the hardest & most skilled fighters Ive ever sparred/known, practiced some form of KF.
@RangRing68 I've seen and met enough ring dungers spastically flailing their arms about to last a lifetime. What big secrets can you reveal to me? Your 6 1/2 inch pole? Your Butt Jam dao? Quit trying to pick up guys on the net Dingdong68.
@PeterSwelz nice comeback. those arts you just mentioned dont sound chinese, they sound korean. i dont do korean, remember. im not trying to pick up guys here i just want to meet you so i can "reveal my secrets" like you asked but you keep running. it'll only take a few minutes to give u a taste of your own medicine, end your "undefeated rein" in the mma world, call u an ambulance then hit the airport. real simple and no threat. i'll come to you. be a man like u are on youtube.
@RangRing68 You can beg, you can plead, you can threaten. You won't get what you want from me. I don't accept challenges. If you cannot use logic and common sense to figure out the truth of martial arts it's not my problem.
@PeterSwelz - To date, Ive KO'd 3 blackbelt grapplers, each with inch-power punch strikes. Lead hand strike, no more than 6" from the target, directly to the forehead. Used less than 20% of my power available. I was a skinny & weak 6ft 150#. And that was with MMA gloves on. Had I taken them off, it would have been even worse for them. Inch power isnt a trick. You just dont really understand it.
@xiaou2 You should be fighting in the ufc! You would be making tons of money for a seconds' worth of work! Let me guess you are just too humble or don't want the 'secrets' to be revealed to the public? ahhhh
@PeterSwelz - If I was younger & didnt have health issues, possibly. However, techs used would quickly be banned... and gloves would get more & more padding. UFC is a sad joke, that doesnt deserve anyones attention. Its sloppy, unrealistic, limited, and disrespectful.
@xiaou2 right, UFC is for pleasing the crowd. They are fighters not martial artists. Martial artists study Chinese KF philosophy and concepts (Dao). KF is way more advanced because of it. Not many people can fully get it or simply just ignore it. It is deep and take years and years of practice. Bruce Lee couldn't get where he was if it wasn't for "Dao" philosophy.
@PeterSwelz lol thats actually my excuse too...the secrets are actually pretty obvious..it goes something like this..gouging your eyes out or digging my nails in to your throat or...just simply ripping off your balls...wait! oh! ssssssh. thats a secret. im sure sports wont allow it. its definitely not a good thing for the public...i seee~
@TaichiJing 10 years of paying and bowing to some old guy and giving him your hard earned money. then you will know true tai ji. but the tai ji you will learn is too deadly to be uses. after 10 years you will be too dangerous to fight. and so never prove your skill. another ancient chinese trick to fool the students and get their money. 10 years of payment!
@jimmychuang I did tell the truth and someone reported it as SPAM. Someone is trying to hide the truth. That's ok. I am about done here. This page is mainly full of blind people. Too invested in their "magic system" to solve all their problems.
@PeterSwelz taichia isnt as deadly as before, now its more for health exercises and cultivating qi gong thats all, but baji ,yes you can say is super deadly and can use for fight,but taiji never, especially now
@jimmychuang Correct!! If more Chinese can think like you then there is hope. But only 1 out of 100,000 chinese have their own independent thinking. You are the one out of 100,000.
寢技是很難纏的...被纏到十有八九是穩輸的 別隨便嘴砲撐面子... 天底下沒有有武術是無敵的 如果他也熟寢技 那結果就不知道.. 而且練太極就不去練寢技 只是多一個弱點 武術在人的身上是越完善越好.. 不要計較門派較實在
t4g05cj3 1 day ago
練武不練功，到老一場空。
搏擊技分為「立技」和「寢技」，但練楊式太極的那人看上去無論立技和寢技都比不上人。本人從沒有練過寢技，但有師兄告訴我無論立技有多強，不練寢技的話比人用寢技纏身都會輸，這點在片中也印證了，不要妄想練了國術馬步穩如秦山就不怕別人的寢技。
利益申報︰本人學了國術一年多。
hughming 3 days ago
so called martial artist..... meeeehh
volikoto 4 days ago
請 陳氏太極拳 的王戰軍 來打打看就知道了
tony32158 5 days ago
根本就係摔交，邊度係咩巴西柔術
klsuperman 6 days ago
That dude on the black pants isnt fit for this kind of fighting. He knows nothing. ON the ground he looks pathetic and when they stand up he got knocked by a groundfighter. I bet this dude does Wing Chun. Cuz Wing Chun fighters are NO fighters. They believe in fantasie stuff.
minasz 6 days ago
wow... traditional martial arts gets their ass kicked once again -- big suprise
funkyboodah 6 days ago
巴西柔術小子顯然很會打架，楊氏根本不是他的敵手。。。他數次使出'take down' 這典型的street fight招式，頗具威力。學得半桶水的國術就會弄得自己尷尬，下不了臺。。。這是一個好例子。
TheVaccumtube 1 week ago
好笑 既然你練太極 應該樁站得很穩 他撲身你都可以有機會翻他了 你還讓他撲倒你 真不可思議 該去學習合氣道 你就知道我再說啥
designerk9 1 week ago
@designerk9 彼此程度有別吧，又不是練太極的就是實力保證班。
TheVipzen 1 week ago
主持人你确定这人耍的是太极拳？太极是以柔制刚，近身肉搏怎么能使出以柔制刚？
brucechan001 1 week ago
@brucechan001 本人只是分享影片而已，對影片內容均無加以編輯修改，原影片確實是標示著楊氏太極。
以柔克剛就無法近身肉搏嗎？那請問該怎應用呢？莫非是隔空制敵？能否請您分享影片，讓大家開開眼界！感恩。
TheVipzen 1 week ago
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不管打得如何,謝謝這些人上場表演,滿足大家的視覺享受,
不過,有些傳武的腦袋該update一下了吧!
傳武是該科學化.現代化.現實化的,
不是什麼東西只要貫上中國傳統幾千年歷史就是好,
不然過去中國傳統有人生病吃香灰,現在你還吃嗎?
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不要整天說中國武術可以打要害什麼的,正式比賽發揮不出來,
當你連對手的臉跟腳都碰不到,對手若要打你要害,難道會沒辦法嗎?
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至少這場比網路上陳.吳大師比武要好太多了!!!!
yuvdpux1 1 week ago
老實說,中國功夫啊,,,,跟本是拿來殺人的,很多招式都是從古代戰爭中的殺敵武功中演變出來,當中的狠,陰,毒絕對不能跟有原則,有裁判,有護具的比賽相提並論,比如說台拳道比賽中所使用的不少高踢腳,在你死我活的爭鬥時,只要對手在台拳道拳手剛起腳前或剛踢失後連人帶身用肩撞過去,那勝負立分了.只是比賽有比賽的原則,很多攻擊技巧都被限制了,試問這樣又怎能看出一種百年武術真正實力呢?
Hero777ification 1 week ago
Que practicante de Tai Chi tan PENDEJO!!
Volgeblanc 1 week ago
almost all taichi schools don't teach practical combat skills, nor include sparring in their usual training, most taichi practitioners i know do it more as an exercise than a martial art and almost all don't really understand it as a fighting skill. what make it worse in this case is he was up against a ground fighter which, to be fair, most martial artists would have problem with.
king0kong 1 week ago
Not taichi.
smalleagle1023 1 week ago
@smalleagle1023 But clearly says "Yang Tai Chi"
Volgeblanc 1 week ago
看不出是練太極的, 反正他們都一直打地戰, 立技不多, 我也不太清楚太極應付地戰的技法是怎樣的
vc05349 3 weeks ago
我看過了, 那個人除了手的架式是像太極之外, 你說他打的是跆拳道也可以.
他出腳比出手多, 標題不說他是太極我還真看不出來.
hkborn82 3 weeks ago
The guy who lost is full of shit.. he's defenceless ... A coward bitch fighter.. I've never seen a fight fighting without being able to fight except for this
chuahsang 3 weeks ago
太极不是打几个套路打得漂亮就行了的，要经过长时间刻苦的训练，拳架只是一方面，而且要盘的得法，更重要的是功法，比如无极桩之类的，练松、练静。真正下了苦工站桩的，巴西柔术根本搬不动脚。练松练到位了的话那些什么所谓的关节技也拿他没办法，随便一溜就能出来。一看这人就是典型的花拳绣腿，就他的太极锻炼身体还凑合，打人？别开玩笑了
scroogegood123 4 weeks ago
@scroogegood123 你所說的太極你自己有看過嗎??
hkborn82 3 weeks ago
@hkborn82 什么叫我有看过？我自己就是练这个的，陈式心意太极。
scroogegood123 3 weeks ago
@scroogegood123 這麼比喻好了, 如果每100個柔術家能夠出5個格鬥家, 那麼每5000個太極拳高手, 就只會出1個格鬥家
我說的不是養身的太極拳
中國傳統拳術防身還有點意義, 但是能和其他外國武術較勁的畢竟少之又少, 現在中國格鬥界也一直在學習外國, 而不是回歸傳統
jimmychuang 2 weeks ago
@hkborn82 去百度一下 中国太极VS日本空手道吧，那几个打太极的是从陈家沟出来的，打得还有点意思，至少是太极的功法，比这强多了
scroogegood123 3 weeks ago
看見標題就知結果..
sai03305 1 month ago
楊氏太極是當年楊福魁教授滿清旗人的「養生拳」。沒有格鬥作用，勿誤會。
但影片中人願意上台技擊，是運動家精神。
rightdown1 1 month ago
@MechPhantom it is sad most chinese kung fu have been down graded to almost nothing now. however they are still useful doesnt matter which style. you just have to find a true master like rangring did. but it is like finding needle in hay stack. normally these masters are very private. if you do dont let him go. i was really lucky to found one too.
TaichiJing 1 month ago
@RangRing68 nice i wanted to learn wing chun long ago. never found a good master. do you know leung wan kam？ he is one of very few good wing chun masters.
TaichiJing 1 month ago
right, some havent met the real thing. they think it should be like mma but its not. its much deeper that is why not many can learn the true art. kungfu involves dao philosophy, concept, and internal energy, not just about forms. in old days masters fought on platform but there were no rules, no gloves, no protection, no rounds or referee. they had to sign a death waiver. fight ends in few seconds. they did it not for audience but for fame, test skill, being challnged or settle score.
TaichiJing 1 month ago
@TaichiJing They filmed some of these old "dangerous' lei tai matches. I have seen them. There were rules. As soon as one person touched the ground or fell down , they lost. Which is why most all traditional kung fu does not have ground grappling. It is a cultural influence that they believe once you touch the ground you lose. But that is a weakness in a real street fight. If you do not know ground grappling you can easily lose your life if your opponent does know grappling.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
Itl's all about who your teacher is. all the martial arts work when you study it and make it your own just as Bruce lee did. For someone to say Kung Fu is useless is not very wise because. there are a lot of kung fu players who can do some serious damage. I have seen wing chung and akido instructors who made small mods to there applictions to make them work in modern fighting situations.
foxybrown2 1 month ago
@foxybrown2 did you see them use their skills against a real non cooperative attacker? If not then... connect the dots.. la la la la la...
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz your real funny so many people base their ideas on a you tube video
like i said before @ our Dojo we train for real none stop. so stop making judgements on a style just because you saw it done wrong on you tube every body does not train the same. like i said if you have a realistic instructor you'll be fine. 2 teachers do not teach the same.
foxybrown2 1 month ago
@yiquanbytc 你的气功和中文是在中国学的吗？学了多久。你学的气功叫什么？
TaichiJing 1 month ago
没实战经验的话，太极练的再怎么好也没有用。什么武术都是这样的。太极选手明显的没经验。巴西柔术选手明显的经验多，武术练得又好。太极选手倒霉。
Without actual combat experience, it doesn't matter how good the guy's Taichi is. No martial arts are exempt from this fact. Mr. Tachi is obviously inexperienced. Mr. BJJ is obviously very experienced and he showed himself to be unarguably well-versed in BJJ. Sorry Mr. Taichi, you lose here.
etreke 1 month ago
everyone now loves BJ =)
MechPhantom 1 month ago
請大家先看 功夫傳奇-第五集 再說太極
utubegoogle 1 month ago
不会吧！我的太极比这个人的太极好得多！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！ 真不是好太极。。本来不是太极。。他怎么想啊
yiquanbytc 1 month ago
@yiquanbytc 能否請您PO出您的比賽影片，讓大家見識您的厲害呢？
TheVipzen 1 month ago
@TheVipzen 没明白！ 我也参加好多比赛，赢了输了不所谓，重要别丢脸
yiquanbytc 1 month ago
為什麼白帶也能比賽0.0(他們白帶是最高的?)
johnny092107 1 month ago
@johnny092107 請爬文吧，之前有網友發表影片中的白帶是教練級的高手。
TheVipzen 1 month ago
太极又不是打架用的，干嘛参加这个啊。。。
MrQianli 1 month ago
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@MrQianli 楊氏太極是標榜實戰的太極, 不是養身太極
jimmychuang 1 month ago
@MrQianli 那請問太極是用來做啥的？武術的本質就是技擊，養生只是附加的價值。
TheVipzen 1 month ago 6
@TheVipzen 武術是拿來技擊的，這句話是否有哪位太極大師或是掌門人可背書？先把話說在前頭，武俠小說跟現實是不一樣的。
g61002 1 month ago
@g61002 太極拳只是武術的項目之一，武術本是以技擊為目的，而太極拳並不能代表所有的武術項目，所以即使有太極拳大師或掌門人背書，也無法說明武術是否能來技擊的，只能代表他們的個人觀點。
建議您可去研究一下近代太極拳大師王宗岳的太極拳論，就可知道太極拳的是否用來技擊的。
TheVipzen 1 month ago
@TheVipzen 那請問太極是用來做啥的→武術的本質就是技擊。用三段認證法分析：你的大前提是武術是拿來技擊的，小前提是太極拳是武術，涵攝(結論)→太極是拿來技擊的。由此邏輯判斷，你認為太極拳是拿來技擊的沒有錯。
再來「所以即使有太極拳大師或掌門人背書，也無法說明武術是否能來技擊的，只能代表他們的個人觀點。」代表你已經定了打太極拳權威人士也僅能發表個人觀點，所以我的問題是近代太極拳大師王宗岳的太極拳論，是個人觀點還是通說的太極拳分析？
g61002 1 month ago
@g61002 這問題建議您該去訪談那些太極拳大師，或許能幫助您釐清問題。
TheVipzen 1 month ago
@g61002 太極拳最終用來養身但也可以技擊. 把兩者分開就不是太極. 太極拳是老子, 孟子, 道家理論所形成的. 要參透太極拳必須要有真正懂的太極師父教, 靠悟性, 時間和努力. 所以練成的沒幾個人. 中國武術博大精深是因為理論和內功. 多半現代師父只學到形沒學到精髓. 不懂裝懂然後自己想出的理論和招式. 所以為什麼有些人覺得武術不實際, 花拳秀腿.
TaichiJing 1 month ago
Maybe there is hope for the Chinese Martial arts. It is funny and sad that it takes another Chinese trained in Western/BJJ Martial arts to beat them senseless before they will admit their traditional arts are inferior. One day the worthless Chinese martial arts will be dead and buried. As they deserve to be.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz yea man ahha chinese MA is being mor shitty everytime, not practical and very unrealistic
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@MechPhantom Sadly, not too many people realize the truth of your statement..
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz urs to man xD u rock
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz
Yes and no.
Theres alot of outdated stuff in Chinese Martial Arts that I can agree on. There are some good "gold nugget" techniques I find as well.
1NX9 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz well peter, i dont think you've been around long enough or experienced the Chinese arts. if you have, then most likely you wouldnt be talking shit. there is no such thing as one martial art being better than the other. its about the better practioneer of whatever martial art they do. i imagine you earned a black belt in Youtubequanbjj dodo? go play Mortal Combat cause thats the only place your gonna be able to kick ass at...stay off the streets too ok kiddo.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 I have I've been around and I rate to talk shit. What about you chump?
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz no, you have not been around, i can just tell. call me champ cause i aint no shit spewer like yourself. chump? what are you getting at kiddo?
RangRing68 1 month ago
lol.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@RangRing68 Yeah you're no chump. Keep deluding yourself. Keep believing in Chinese Kung Fu hocus pocus dim mak push hands goofy ass drills n shit. Lolz.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz ok master blah blah blah blah just keep makin horseshit comments when everybody else here cant understand you anyways because they only comment in Chinese because they dont speak english....duuuh! even i can barely understand your macho bullshit babble. go hang yourself with that white belt you've been wearing since forever rookie fake. or atleast grow a pair already ya snot nosed- roll around with other guys, bjj/ doodoojitsu turd plunger.
RangRing68 1 month ago
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PeterSwelz 1 month ago
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@RangRing68 Not only do the chinese probably not understand me.. (good observation, chump-champ.) but my words are apparently not getting through to you. You are a sad arrogant turd why don't you go sit in the corner and role play kung fu movies with your star wars figures? By the way, I would never hang myself to give you satisfaction, being alive really pleases me. Your next order is to go to a bjj or judo club, mma gym or a muay thai gym and pick a fight or spar. Report back to me ASAP.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz still blabbering little doggy? yip yip yap yip yip yip with your little tail between your legs? still trying to beat me up from a computor in mom and dads basement? well its working boo hoooo.... give me a time and place boo hoooo, im shakin in my panties!
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 I don't have the time or place to teach you anything. Do your own research. The chinese arts have too much b.s. and not enough realistic training. Continue to be deluded. They need people like you to pay their bills.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz you dont have time to teach me? did i ask? i am the instructor here. i have been doing it since before you were swimming around in your pop's shorts. the stuff you do didnt come from "Brazil" and Japanese or Korean arts were not developed out of thin air from their homeland, they got their ideas from China. as far as martial arts, China is where it all started and without China, there would be no mma muscleheads like you crying superiority over every other art. sad.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 Everyone knows that bjj came from judo. Judo is from japanese wrestling and may have some chinese wrestling influence. Chinese wrestling comes from mongolian and chinese wrestling. Kung fu is the chinese version of Indian arts (that are still practiced in India) that predate kung fu. Greek and western wrestling have been influenced by Indian arts as well. If you want to claim an originator claim India. Basically all cultures "base" art goes back to wrestling/grappling. Now you know.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz yeah i know the history on the indians influencing the chinese but the chinese took it and made it their own "slam dunked it" so to speak. most people dont know or dont care for the indian style (which never evolved like kung fu did) anyways, thats why i didnt mention it. i know all about bjj too smartass. who cares about wrestling/grappling? fights start while you're on your feet, not on the ground in sexual mma positions. i have mopped the floor with y'all.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 "mopping the floor " with who? Indian systems have all the stuff kung fu has if u do a little research. What about the Thais? Simple muay thai fighters destroyed the Chinese kung fu masters in the 1970s.San shou fighters have tried to beat muay thai but they only succeed when they alter the rules (no elbows, knees) Your argument is falling apart tough guy. Fights can start from any position. Better to be prepared for all types of situations and not be afraid of getting called homo.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz oooh, did i strike a nerve youngun? i have "mopped the floor" with muscleheads like you or putting it simply- "beat up". fights dont start on the ground while in the missionary position. im not a tough guy, im just very realistic, far more experienced than you who only hates little brat kids talking shit about something they dont know enough about in the first place. so little brat, if kung fu was too hard for you...GET OVER IT! just enjoy the lower level mma stuff u do.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 The only thing you can strike is your own willy when your wife isn't putting out for ya chump. I've seen the high and low of martial arts. A fight is a fight it's not brain surgery. If you knew as much as you like to make people think you do, you would be mopping the floor with the likes of Randy Couture and other MMA champs, he's an old fart like you. Why aren't you making a ton of money in the ufc and other events if you are so special. Just an internet warrior is all you are. LOL
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz hello little brat! i may be an old fart but i do get paid to to teach. ufc is afraid of me i guess, wont send me an invitation just like you.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 Interesting how you "just know" how "experienced" I am from reading what I've chosen to type to you. You should try Amway.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@RangRing68 Doing something for a long time does not make it valid. Plenty of people shoot blackpowder rifles, yet you don't see blackpowder rifles being used by any military for combat operations. You can drive a Model T Ford around yet you don't see anyone using a Model T's as normal workday vehicles. There are idiots born before me and there will be idiots born after me. Whats your point?
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz damn pete, would you knock off the metaphorical bullshit for once? bottom line is, you talk shit about chinese martial arts yet you never practiced or understood it. its like picking up a book and saying "this sucks" before even reading it. ihave done korean and japanese styles before settling on chinese. you have not done chinese but you still shit all over the art.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 If you re read one of my original post I stated that I have studied the chinese arts. Been there done that. Along with many other systems. The chinese arts are truly lacking. Too much fantasy wristlocks, mystical chi bullshit and death point crap. Kung fu guys fall apart against people with basic boxing and grappling skills. I shit on the art because they need to wake up out of their fantasy. Too many "masters" out there taking people's hard earned money and passing on useless skills
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz you're right about one thing and one thing only- there are too many "masters" out there who arent genuine, who rip alot of gullible folks. i was lucky enough to have learned from one that was the real deal from China. you wouldnt be talking out of your ass if you had a sifu like the one had. chi is real, u just never learned how to use. chinese arts are more sophisticated than mma/bjj and take more time to master. u abandoned the hard stuff for the easier no brainer mma.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 Which style are you learning?
TaichiJing 1 month ago
@TaichiJing wing chun.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 Yeah sure. I have trained with many "masters" from china. Big whoop.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz i never said i trained with many masters. just one. seems to me that u are a young, scrawny, pimple faced punk pretending to be some mma fighter with all the answers. you started it, not me.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 I never said I have all the answers. I only stated that "chinese martial arts" need to be woke the fuck up. As they do. Otherwise BJJ white belts will keep handing them their asses. As this one did. Know your enemy. Quit fantasizing that I am some scrawny pimple faced kid you can beat up easily. Project much?
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz - Mere strength & size doesnt mean victory. Ive beaten several guys that were nearly or more than 2x my mass w/ ease, due to superior WC kung fu techniques. The problem isnt the art, its the artists lackings & misunderstandings. And its stubborn fools like yourself, that solidify who needs to really be woken up.
xiaou2 1 month ago
@RangRing68 the guy u learn form in china is he good? what art doe he teach? ty
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@MechPhantom he was a student of Wong Shun Leung in Hong Kong many years ago. moved to the U.S a few years ago and i have been taking private lessons from him. he is beyond good. he did the 1 inch punch while i held up a phone book to my chest and knocked me on my ass. he barely flicked his wrist when he did it, felt like sledgehammer hit me. i can do it also. he teaches Wing Chun and he is the real deal nothing fake. u dont always have to go to China to find a great sifu.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 Oh ! wing chun, i only know WC really works, along with CLF and hung gar , the rest of kung fu for me is BS honestly very sorry if i have offended you, even shaolin monks these days are BS too, nothing but wushu monks that cant fight and only perform. But i know WSL is a teacher to bruce lee if im not wrong and hes pretty good . So yea If ur refering that WSL is a real master i gotta agree. The rest no haah. Wing chun owns, btw what kind of MA do you study?
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@RangRing68 continued, that guy u speak of, WSL's student , he does only wing chun is it? thx cool experience man =) hope to find real masters someday ,and not wushu crap haha
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@RangRing68 continued also sir, what at do you teach?
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@RangRing68 The telephone book thing. a good selling point in wc. It's more like a trick. Hard to pull off in a real situation. I also learned from a student of WSL. And other students of Yip Man. If you can really pull off the stuff in a real situation, great.I see u are a "true believer" in kung fu. Maybe you will see the truth one day. Now I know you have never challenged yourself or your skills in a good boxing or muay thai gym. Try it.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz i told you already, i have mopped the floor with muscle heads like you. ok? the one inch punch- thats not all i know. there is poor wc and there is good wc. the guy in the video who was defeated... his kung fu was bad. im not a "true believer" in kung fu as if it was some fake art. im a believer because i worked really hard at it and it turned out to be better than all the other arts i practiced. i train with a muay thai fighter friend of mine twice a month :)
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PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@RangRing68 GREAT to know. ENJOY your wing chun and pray you never have to fight against a trained fighter with experience. It's fun being in the wing chun bubble until it gets popped.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz - WC was meant to be taught to fighters who already had strong martial arts foundations. I can take any decent fighter, and make him 1000x a better fighter with WC training. Thats Fact. WC techniques & theory can be proven every time. It only fails, when its not being performed & used correctly.
xiaou2 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz no bubble surrounding me Tito. so you're knockin' out black belts now huh? with your thumb and finger muscles while holding on to a vedeo game control most likely. so my little badass from behind the keyboard, its about time we meet dont you think? like i said earlier (and your pussy ass didnt respond) name the time and place. i'll come to you. send me a personal message with all info. i got the time.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 A belt means nothing. And I told you I don't have the time to teach you anything. Do your own research. Go to a real boxing gym or muay thai camp or a BJJ school. See for yourself. I don't do "meetings" with freaks from the internet. I guess you can wonder forever.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz - Boxers & Muay Thai dont have much Real in them. They are sport. They leave their groins wide open for an easy attack. They practice on soft heavy bags, tape their wrists up & pad their fists.. so they dont get hurt. KF trains Barefist on sandbags, filled w/ hard coarse sand or metal bbs mounted to concrete walls. (no pivot, sway, or moving... just SOLID heavy collisions) Some of the hardest & most skilled fighters Ive ever sparred/known, practiced some form of KF.
xiaou2 1 month ago
@xiaou2 the skilled fighters are sanda rite? i bet haha
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@MechPhantom - Nah. Sanda is also a sport art.
xiaou2 1 month ago
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@xiaou2 o whos the "Some of the hardest & most skilled fighters Ive ever sparred/known, practiced some form of KF." from waht arT?
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz you dont do meeting with freaks like me because you know you will get your ass handed to you . you're a pussy and a half.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 I've seen and met enough ring dungers spastically flailing their arms about to last a lifetime. What big secrets can you reveal to me? Your 6 1/2 inch pole? Your Butt Jam dao? Quit trying to pick up guys on the net Dingdong68.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz nice comeback. those arts you just mentioned dont sound chinese, they sound korean. i dont do korean, remember. im not trying to pick up guys here i just want to meet you so i can "reveal my secrets" like you asked but you keep running. it'll only take a few minutes to give u a taste of your own medicine, end your "undefeated rein" in the mma world, call u an ambulance then hit the airport. real simple and no threat. i'll come to you. be a man like u are on youtube.
RangRing68 1 month ago
@RangRing68 You can beg, you can plead, you can threaten. You won't get what you want from me. I don't accept challenges. If you cannot use logic and common sense to figure out the truth of martial arts it's not my problem.
PeterSwelz 4 weeks ago 7
@PeterSwelz you're a big pussy.
RangRing68 4 weeks ago
@PeterSwelz - To date, Ive KO'd 3 blackbelt grapplers, each with inch-power punch strikes. Lead hand strike, no more than 6" from the target, directly to the forehead. Used less than 20% of my power available. I was a skinny & weak 6ft 150#. And that was with MMA gloves on. Had I taken them off, it would have been even worse for them. Inch power isnt a trick. You just dont really understand it.
xiaou2 1 month ago
@xiaou2 You should be fighting in the ufc! You would be making tons of money for a seconds' worth of work! Let me guess you are just too humble or don't want the 'secrets' to be revealed to the public? ahhhh
PeterSwelz 1 month ago 3
@PeterSwelz - If I was younger & didnt have health issues, possibly. However, techs used would quickly be banned... and gloves would get more & more padding. UFC is a sad joke, that doesnt deserve anyones attention. Its sloppy, unrealistic, limited, and disrespectful.
xiaou2 1 month ago
@xiaou2 right, UFC is for pleasing the crowd. They are fighters not martial artists. Martial artists study Chinese KF philosophy and concepts (Dao). KF is way more advanced because of it. Not many people can fully get it or simply just ignore it. It is deep and take years and years of practice. Bruce Lee couldn't get where he was if it wasn't for "Dao" philosophy.
TaichiJing 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz lol thats actually my excuse too...the secrets are actually pretty obvious..it goes something like this..gouging your eyes out or digging my nails in to your throat or...just simply ripping off your balls...wait! oh! ssssssh. thats a secret. im sure sports wont allow it. its definitely not a good thing for the public...i seee~
ShuyuKoukin 2 weeks ago
那个练太极的还没我厉害。靠
ghjkl110 1 month ago
@ghjkl110 能否請您PO出您的比賽影片，讓各位網友見識您的厲害呢？
TheVipzen 1 month ago
@ghjkl110 来吧~让大家见见你的厉害
love43839 1 month ago
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TaichiJing 1 month ago
@oooshri 其实不会神秘。太极是内家拳。必须要有内功才能用太极招试。也不是不外传，只是会的人太少。必须要10+年才能有成果。更不说要找到对的师傅加一点天分。所以练成的没几个。很多人没见过太极钢猛得一面，多数人只练到揉，所谓刚中带揉，揉中带刚所以在搏击上就没用了。刚是指内劲而不是力。能讲这些是应为有碰 我很荣幸的杯内劲打过那种感觉跟力不一样
TaichiJing 1 month ago
@TaichiJing 10 years of paying and bowing to some old guy and giving him your hard earned money. then you will know true tai ji. but the tai ji you will learn is too deadly to be uses. after 10 years you will be too dangerous to fight. and so never prove your skill. another ancient chinese trick to fool the students and get their money. 10 years of payment!
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
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@PeterSwelz You told the truth.
jimmychuang 1 month ago 2
@jimmychuang I did tell the truth and someone reported it as SPAM. Someone is trying to hide the truth. That's ok. I am about done here. This page is mainly full of blind people. Too invested in their "magic system" to solve all their problems.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
@PeterSwelz taichia isnt as deadly as before, now its more for health exercises and cultivating qi gong thats all, but baji ,yes you can say is super deadly and can use for fight,but taiji never, especially now
MechPhantom 1 month ago
@oooshri 太极拳的心法蜜而不传 擂台上都是心照不宣 大众的眼睛是血亮的！ 比赛的规则是公平的！ 蜀优蜀劣 事实雄辩 不必遮掩 不必伪饰 ！
smiletogreet 2 months ago
太极拳一旦失去重心就是太空拳 打空气使不上力的！ 巴西柔术一旦索住对方的肢体 非伤即残 断气阴魂 如土螃蟹吃鱼虾 不管鱼虾如何水中自由傲翔 一旦着地 大卸八垮儿 烹 煎 炸 炒 任人宰割！武侠电影把太极拳太神话了！中国武术也是如此 ! 必须通过客观地研究对手的长处 克服自己的短处 才能制敌可胜！ 太极拳和武术其他拳种重来就没有地面作战的技术! 因此一旦倒地变成了人家的菜饼子！
smiletogreet 2 months ago
@smiletogreet 讓我們嘗試你媽媽教你的狗的人的技能！
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
希望這種比賽可以常常在台灣舉辦
而且是用MMA那種場地
這樣又不用因為出界而一直停下來
不同人學不同武術就是會有各種不一樣的面貌
讓這樣面貌有機會互相碰撞
這樣才能激發出不同的火花！
zzz000000h 2 months ago 2
這位不是白帶 是教練....我曾在那個道場 @@
kennykou168 2 months ago
这个真的不像是太极拳，可能是他炼的不到家吧，所谓借力打力，根本没发挥出来。步伐反应也好逊，好像就是站在那被人扑倒。
oooshri 2 months ago
很早的视频了。。。连柔术的那个还是白带。。。
MyROUEN 2 months ago
@TheVipzen 對不起, 沒留意你題目不是刻意批評楊家太極拳, 不才也不是說你巴西柔術不好, 只是看了那"自稱"楊家拳的人真是太不爽, 不才之前評論如有令各下有所不快或誤會, 只好在這說聲對不起; 不才不是什麼高手, 沒什麼比賽過, 沒片可貼la; 從技術層面來評論很難啊, 問題在於根本輸的那人沒技術, 我不可把這片說成"勝方很技術地把沒技術的負方技術性壓倒"; 再說這應該是討論平台, 我只是真心說出看完片那一刻的感覺, 正如在拳賽中你不能因怕打中對方, 對方會痛, 而收手不去攻擊人, 那負方如怕被人"人身攻擊", 我倒想到兩個方法:1) 不要去比賽, 比賽的結果不是嬴, 便是輸, 不打就不會輸. 2) 認真去學習, 去練習, 去令人認同自己. 整件事我認我是對人, 不只是對事, 如果負方想本人再給他多點專重, 看來他要負出多些努力, 或是不要亂掛旗號想混過去, 本人一向很自重^^
Isaac01Yau 2 months ago
@Isaac01Yau 若你知道現今國術界的處境，就會知道敢勇於上台比賽的國術人已不多了，請多用鼓勵選手的角度來看影片。很多人都認為太極應該要怎樣打，可是每次請評論者PO出他心中認可的影片，都是「只聞樓梯響，不見人下來！」，網路是公開的討論平台，但不表示可以做人身攻擊！比賽勝負乃是常事，不是負方就該遭受謾罵，這種心態很不應該，不能只憑幾句話就抹煞選手的努力，再說你也只是在武術方面毫無建樹的嘴炮族，為何要負方要努力讓你多點尊重？這是現實世界不是武俠世界，居然要憑勝負來贏得別人的尊重？看來真的是自我感覺良好，一點也感覺不到自重！
TheVipzen 2 months ago
@TheVipzen 不好意思樓主, 又是我, 剛好有多一個ACC, 你再BLOCK 我也沒法, 又或者你可刪除我的留言, 結果怎樣也好, 這也是我在這最後一個留言; 樓主你對楊家拳知多少? 新派基本拳套路88 式, 學完之後再修好拳架, 再練推手, 單推, 相推, 活步推, 練好確實8 勁, 最後才上散手, 才可把真正的太極打好, 有話說太極十年不出門, 片中那位人兄在這幾方面那裡下過苦功? 我看不倒, 可能錯不在他, 因為本身師父教學上也有問題, 我自己方面知道如不是入室弟子, 學的可是差很多; 本人仔細想過和閣下口角之爭只在於語言文題, 在香港說人呆子, 不算什麼罵, 可能在台灣比較不尊重, 之前之言, 真是一時之氣, 在下為這再三道歉; 至於本人小時侯見過父親和我的洪拳師父比試講手, 可惜當時我年紀太小, 根本不知什麼打什麼, 只知父親耍太極, 師父是退役散放軍, 用禽那手, 鐵橋, 最終都是打平, 講是講不了的, 本人真心請閣下有機會的, 來香港一下, 親身體驗真正楊家拳, 讓閣下親身走走這條樓梯..... 都是那一句, 如你勝了我, 機票錢我出~
gn00399898 2 months ago
@gn00399898 看來你還真是堅持說清楚講明白啊！可見你還真是有心人啊！既然如此，就來說說吧！本身習武二十多年，對於楊太的認識，不敢說有多清楚，但恐怕比你稍微多一點。影片中那位楊太選手是我朋友，練楊太已十多年，只是在武林中人外有人，技不如人並不表示他就練不到家，你可就他技術層面做評論，但絕不可罵人，這是很基本對人的尊重，是全世界都通用的，跟地方性無關。之前我也去過香港見過不少武友，大家以武會友很是愉快，其實只要將你所謂真正的楊家拳影片，不管是套路或對打都PO出來，讓大家鑑賞，便可知其優劣，因私下武聚，事後大多各說各話，還不如PO影片，比較能避免羅生門。
TheVipzen 2 months ago
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@gn00399898 真受不了你們國術家, 經不起批評, 講話都閣下閣下, 實際上氣得想打人, 你要打, 就跟格鬥家打, 任何比賽都是可以批評的, 球類運動, 摔跤, 拳擊, 都是可以評論, 論輸贏, 就國術不行, 批評國術就會出現“來找我打啊“之類的言論, 那我們在這批評科比不如喬丹, 是否科比就會說“來找我比啊“？ 之類的話？
國術家的修身根本都修假的, 既不積極參與國際格鬥競技, 又不能接受批評, 你是香港人, 我看過香港武術雜誌1973李小龍死掉那期報導, 一堆受訪者批判李小龍, 其中一個“有修為“的國術家還說“死又怎樣？狗也會死“
你知道嗎？ 大家現在學武術, 都不想學國術了, 都想學打出成績的武術, 國術形象真的太差了, 缺乏尚武精神, 又只會和普通人叫囂, 經不起批評又自稱修身, 誰會想去學？除了愛國精神吧
jimmychuang 1 month ago
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@TheVipzen 國術沒有鼓勵競爭, 而是以防身健體, 修身為主, 這就是國內外的差別, 在歐美日, 武術就是要競技, 所以接受外國武術鍛鍊的人多少會被鼓勵參加競技項目, 這樣才會進步, 而國術一直都是小心翼翼地, 怕輸了會丟面子, 或怕受傷, 影響自家的形象, 有辱師門之類的, 根本沒法跟外國武術家比, 當然想學武的人會先考慮外國拳術, 國術這種保守做法, 只會讓自身衰微
jimmychuang 1 month ago
@jimmychuang Correct!! If more Chinese can think like you then there is hope. But only 1 out of 100,000 chinese have their own independent thinking. You are the one out of 100,000.
PeterSwelz 1 month ago
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@Isaac01Yau 每次國術家比賽輸了, 自己人就開始批評自己人, 把比賽者光明正大形容為“不正統“或“學藝不精“, 這才是最大的問題, 練習和真打本來就是兩回事, 你技術再好, 沒真打過也不知道自己能用到什麼地步, 你門派再有地位, 不去對打也不知道自己的缺點在那, 練國術的就是這樣, 好像面子第一, 輸了就很可恥, 丟自家的臉, 不是正統, 學藝不精, 這真讓人感到反感, 外國拳術的競爭精神更讓人嚮往, 更加正面, 國術基本上是不能批評的, 看看那些批評國術的武術家, 都被歸為異類了
jimmychuang 1 month ago
根本沒得打
long6673 2 months ago
其實他在衝過去抱他的那瞬間如果楊式太極剛好想金雞獨立不知道會怎樣= =
Rabbit9586210 2 months ago
@Rabbit9586210 跟俺想的一樣
hku1211 1 month ago
隨便找個呆子出來打輸了就說楊家太極不行..... 想問那呆子師乘那位?? 說出來聽聽好等不才能和台灣的師叔師伯們相認~!!!
Isaac01Yau 2 months ago
@Isaac01Yau 技不如人就是呆子？！那請您PO出自己比賽的影片來讓大家觀摩，還有請就影片選手的技術層面來評論，請勿對影片選手作人身攻擊！請自重！
TheVipzen 2 months ago
太極那一位可能沒遇過低重心攻擊的吧~~
被第一次低重心攻擊到後就沒氣勢了(看他下到的樣子)~~
FractalOfChaos 2 months ago
兩人的武技暫且不說，但是兩人一站出來，太極的氣勢明顯就輸了一大半~
不過盡力就好，勝負是兵家常事，重要的是吸取實戰經驗，習人之長，補己之短，勝者不驕敗者不餒。
NW074 2 months ago
太極拳側の体幹が弱い
urusaiurusaiyatsura 3 months ago
太極方根本下盤不穩 這樣說有練過太極實在令人懷疑
TheWowowojoe 3 months ago
SB. 什么是太极？108式，37，24式？NO!
什么是ABC？什么是英文？误人子弟。杨澄甫号称＂京城无敌＂。不可能白给。只要10分钟我告诉你什么是太极。
kongfuwang 3 months ago
arm bar ~ kimura lock ~ triangle ~ chock ~ hes playing man
BoyMillion8 3 months ago
十字固定就可以解決了 換招想換三角固 再換腳式的木村鎖媽? 一直在玩呢 ~
BoyMillion8 3 months ago
Warran ... 我覺得這根本不用比 .... 還沒開始我就知道結果了
BoyMillion8 3 months ago
胡X源一直被打?怎麼會這樣,有練過喔?
winhsu 3 months ago
Sad! Sad! Sad! but true.
1Coolaid1969 3 months ago
武術有分養生跟戰鬥,拿養生拳來戰鬥無異是拿雞蛋砸石頭.
parkerlived 4 months ago
@parkerlived 要看對手，像柔術這種近距離關節技用太極確實處於不利。
a9012456789 3 months ago
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太極拳不是專門在對付抱在一起的武術嗎....
Rabbit9586210 1 week ago
我真的沒看過一個練太極的人有打贏過他種格鬥技的...悲哀...
Waterbruce 4 months ago
太烂了。。。。跟柔术打最忌讳地打。。！
wanxinmike 4 months ago
刚入门的白带而已，只会double leg takedown。太极不知彼知己，关键是人。挥拳会不会啊
ywang07 4 months ago
柔術
nO1Zeee1 4 months ago
adiegodf 4 months ago
@adiegodf 願天下豪傑延年益壽
hku1211 1 month ago
我很樂意看那個太極被打得稀巴爛
zjlin1985 4 months ago
应该那笨蛋姓杨而已，打的是泰鸡拳吧! 对手就如抓鸡式, 哈哈哈!
puchongtoneexcel 4 months ago
Isn't Yang Tai Chi some kind of health exercise? You mean you can actually fight using that stuff???
ironwirewingchun 4 months ago
看了一些太極的表演及理論，我覺得應該把太極用力的奧妙運用於散打的拳法上，用最少的力給對手重創，而不是把整套太極搬到擂台上，於實戰當中，很多招式都不能運用出來，正當你想如何野馬分中時，你很可能已被對方擊倒了。
manman19491001 5 months ago
太極未練到家當然被k.美國格鬥術人家擒拿術以靜制動.場場勝.你那像太極好似沙包.
ha5853 5 months ago
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太極拳和一些其他的拳法一樣, 有所謂的｢發勁｣; 可以在瞬間透過身體各部爆發出強大的瞬發力道.
像巴西選手從下盤進攻時, 就可以透過腿來發勁; 只是看來練太極的這位仁兄不捻此法.
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