Mid-level 16" Crash cymbal test: Sabian B8 Pro, Paiste PST 5, Zildjian ZXT, Meinl Classics

[zerosoma33]

The Paiste has some great initial crash quality, but if you listen closely the undertones are kind of disharmonic. The ZXT doesn't have as nice a crash but there aren't those undertones clashing with each other. I'm not a fan of ZXT generally but I think I'd vote for the ZXT.

[mikeywallzz]

is the paiste the rock or universal one?

[Ludwigzildjian1]

Zildjian

[szicsa9]

PST5 

[AndDeathInMyArms96]

Damn meinl is jus good all around

[KevinVanRillaer]

Fuck Zildjian! Paiste should be the market leader

[szicsa9]

PST5 !!!

[xpr3datorGaming]

is the paiste a 16" medium or thin crash need response asap

[cameron123655]

paiste, sabian, meinl, then zildjian

[oshitomaha]

1. Paiste or Zildjian

2. Meinl

3. Sabian

[PassTheCemeteryGates]

Go for the Paiste, I have one and they are AMAZING.

[Yaden1412]

meinl - sabian - paiste/zildjian

[AlphaMetalGhost]

Paiste sounds so warm and cozy.

[ibernalq]

paiste the best.. zildjian the worst

[Darking22]

Meinl and paiste, are the best

[jigy132]

paiste all the way..

[jmatotek216]

im a meinl guy and i would have to say paiste then meinl

[Ludwigzildjian1]

Zildjian

[barrabinosss]

Zildjian 1st, Meinl 2nd...

[wendepic]

lets be honest and admit that meinl is the way.

[mynameisbaldwin]

What kind of paiste is that? Rock crash, medium, thin??

[RealMcAhole52]

@mynameisbaldwin i think its all mediums

[joshuachan56]

@mynameisbaldwin Medium.

[TheGetharry]

always had zildjian, but thinking about buy paiste because of the price

[bikestunts123]

Sabian and Zildjian

[xicoraul]

PAISTE OFCOURSE!

[alfredisrighthere]

Sabian: 0:03

Paiste: 0:12

Zildjian: 0:22

Meinl: 0:31

[JioL89]

I like PaistePST 5, but i wonder bout if it's a thin, medium or rock crash? or wht?

wanna buy a good crash.

[RealMcAhole52]

@JioL89 i think they are all mediums cause the deffinately is the sound of a meinl medium i have the meinl mcs medium 16 inch and sounds about the same they are the same material

[199dirttracer]

the new sabian b8 pro in brilliant finish sound way better!

[CGDrummer96]

The sabian sounds HORRIBLE but the rest sound pretty good...

[skaterfan105]

I like the zildjian and the meinl.

[DaDaDaDrums]

I just got one of those Paiste Crashes! They sound good! [I also use it in my last video..]

[parkourista8]

Sabian and paiste have beauty sound!

[jjbb20]

They all sound like shit IMO.

[TheClintMan72]

Mmm...

1.Paiste

2.Meinl

3.Zildjian

4.Sabian ...Am i right?

[Katsumerisfun]

@TheClintMan72 no ur nor right sabian makes the best cymabls

[Firter]

I have paiste one and i love it.

[129jasaxos]

Is a sabian b8 pro with 14 hats 16,18 med crash and 20 ride a good deal for $249???

[drummerhero4652]

Does paiste have a warranty? Cuz I like the idea of a 2 year warranty on sabian

[COB710]

Sabian cost most and sound worst :D

Paiste for the win! ^^

[Percussionfish]

i want them all, :P but i am a Paiste guy.

[MrCheesestick88]

Someone finally knows how to hit a crash!

[PhantomWWF]

Paiste..easy

[nigelregan]

paiste easily wins this contest, pst5

[isk8dunks3]

Is that paiste pst3 anyone?

[joshuachan56]

@isk8dunks3 Look at the title,dude.... =.=

[xxxnityninexxx]

MEINL!!!!

[mall115]

sabian

[boredomisexciting]

i have the exact paiste crash and it's 18" companion (also from pst). I love 'em,

[joeyman24239]

sabian paiste meinl then zildjian

thats what im hearing from best to worst at the moment but i would choose paiste over all (:

[Sherb993]

can someone please tell me the specific Paiste in this: thin, medium, or rock?

[jdw19932006]

@Sherb993 its most likely a medium

[joshuachan56]

@Sherb993 Probably medium.

[rodrixxs1996]

paiste is the best!

[M4XH0P3]

Paiste anyday.

[ringostarrkicksass]

the ziljian crash reminds me of the circus idk y lol

[nortsoldier]

@ringostarrkicksass maybe thats the cymbal sound u hear before ther carnival music kicks in o.0

[MrBaygositdown]

paiste

[InBroMotion]

Sabian

[Marvin427]

Meinl

[afheadra]

obviously meinl and paiste are much better

[SirSeTi]

Paiste is very nice.. and cheap. I'll buy one of them.

[RazrHack]

@SirSeTi Cheap? $475 for the 2002 15" sound-edge hats is not "cheap".

[MalignantSelfLove]

@RazrHack I think he means a "cheaper value" compared to Sabian and Zildjian. Paste cymbals sounds great

[joshuachan56]

@RazrHack He meant PST5 bro... Paiste's professional cymbals are pretty expensive but it's definitely worth the money in my opinion.

[AaronSk8Man]

MEINL

[129jasaxos]

Sabian

[leach987654321]

zildjian

[adaaaan]

PAISTE!

[wantutrip]

at the last part Paiste and Zildjian sounds almost same! just zildjian is a bit brighter

[jesse17ful]

all of them!

[DBDrums4U]

Paiste 

[maidtoorder28]

Paiste and sabian!

[stefimoto]

Meinl and paiste

[Secondofolitude]

paiste!

[nevermoregg]

yeahh with local music stores cymbals prices are pretty low. but when i need new drums or hardware or pedal and stuff, Ebay is #1. Oh yeah speaking of paiste RUDE rides, are they good? i'm looking for something to replace my cracked Meinl Byzance. Man I thought they were made for hard hitters.

[Sousleek]

Sabian

[hmfvunit]

damn ..they're all fucking good..but i have meinl classics..since i couldn't find sabian and zildjan costs too much

[MANNY295555]

SABIAN!!!!!!

[metalskater9]

Diggin that Pasite. I don't know why but I detest Sabian

[hayabus111a]

well in my opinion, the zildjian zxt and the paiste pst5 sound =, both are awesome!

[TreCoolness]

Paiste owns... It has nearly NO ringing... I have PST3, one down from PST5 and it's never going to die.... And even when it does, i'm getting the same thing. i'm NOT going to bother buying any more higher class cymbals when the PST3 is such an amazing class as it is

[dangleesac102]

@TreCoolness u wont get any other higher class cymbals because then your pst3s will sound like nothing compared to pst5s trust me i did the same thing

[TreCoolness]

@dangleesac102 so you reckon i should try one up?

[dangleesac102]

@TreCoolness yeah try either pst5 or alpha but i strongly recomend the sabian xs20s they are great cymbals

[nevermoregg]

@dangleesac102 if ur buying sabian xs20, might as well spend some more and buy something like zildjian sweet ride or sabian aax. sabian xs20 sounds good, but too expensive

[dangleesac102]

@nevermoregg r u kidding me i got a xs20 18in crash for 145 that the price of a 16in apx crash theyre sabians version of the alphas cept b20

[nevermoregg]

@dangleesac102 yeahh and I got sabian aax stage ride for 75$. And i never liked APX anyway

[dangleesac102]

i was comparing prices but that is a sweet deal lol

[nevermoregg]

@dangleesac102 yeahh I know. You'll be surprised at how many good deals u can find on ebay. I also got a Mapex Saturn 4 pc for like 450$, virgin kick, free shipping lol

[dangleesac102]

@nevermoregg i dont fuck with ebay for some reasong i never load money onto paypal properly and i end up wit nothing but a local music store is also a great place for deals i got a paiste rude power ride for 80$ nd it is perfect for wat i play

[DRUMALLICA]

Meinl

Sabian

Zildjian

Paiste



[PatrickProduction]

I've tried the B8 pro and the Meinl Classics, and they're ok.. But is the Paiste and Zildjian good?? Never tried them, and I'm thinking to buy a new crash

[FOXGEAR92]

The ZXT and PST sound almost identical. I'd say:

PST/ZXT

Classics

B8 Pro

[FOXGEAR92]

@FOXGEAR92 Not sure what the hell I was thinking saying the ZXT and PST were identical, the ZXT has a lot more high end ring.

[CodnSquishy]

meinl classic crash sounded more like a splash

[chiodos82]

sabian and paiste fuck zildjian all u pay for is the brand

[ibernalq]

@chiodos82 I agree... Zildjian is pure brand in low series...

[Videkiazene]

I cant decide beetween Paiste PST5 or Sabian B8Pro

I need a main crash for Black/Death Metal for something like Dimmu Borgir etc...

please help me...! thanks :)

Nem tudok dönteni hogy Paiste PST5-öt vagy Sabian B8Pro-t vegyek

Kéne egy fő beütő Black/Death Metalra, olyanra mint pl a Dimmu Borgir

légyszíves segítsetek köszi :)

[chiodos82]

@Videkiazene i have a sabian b8 pro 16" crash and i hate it, id rather go with pst5, but it aslo depends on what sound u want i play metal so i like thinner cymbals the b8 pro as far as the crashes go are thicker and sound more like rides so its all preference

[xfinder0]

@Videkiazene I would recommend Paiste PST 5. I have a 16 and 18 inch and they both sound great!

[Deadmeatproductions]

zildjian all the way man.

[earlky94]

meinl bro.

[evilbob1001]

sabian and paiste

[nazzare79]

MEINL

PAISTE

SABIAN

ZILDJIAN(horrible)

[AleX0002]

zildjian and sabian to me

[MrEmpiredrums]

zildjian and paiste 

[fluffyninjas]

They all sound about the same, Sabian/Meinl sound the best, Paiste would work too

[DrummingDrummer15]

meinl or paiste are the best

[virusofthedeath]

Sabian/Meinl/Paiste would do the job.

Zildjian once again, sounds like a low budget cymbal.

[AMIDEADYET1231]

zildjian like balls

[DrummaMuFucka]

Sabian or Meinl....

[Paiste402]

hitting way too hard with no technique, but i like the Sabian. Smooth n nice tones

[MrCalebcolkmire]

I really dont like Sabian.All of there cymbals sound like trash can lids or Jack Blacks singing..

[AmbitiousMOnkey1]

im going with meinl

[youssefziady]

the zildjian sounds like shit, meinl a liiiiiiittle better, paiste better than both, but sabian obviously sounds the best

[JVC7400]

7777 views :P

[LeftHandOpenDrummer]

i really liked the paiste and the meinl, however, i thought the paiste was too high pitched to be a main crash, so for me i would go with the Meinl.

[Nuegoms]

paiste is making all the good ones

[GutPyle]

I use a 16" PST5 Thin next to my 17" K Custom Dark Crash, 16" Armand Medium Thin and 20" K Custom Dark Ride. I also have a PST5 18" Thin Crash that I've put 3 rivets in, and it sounds fantastic as a crash/ride.

There's nothing wrong with the PST5's in my opinion, other than that logo worshipping basement drummers look down their nose at them because they don't cost a lot or have the right logo...therefore they can't sound good.

Not all "cheap" cymbals "suck".

[a54635]

Mid-level? These Cymbals are low-level, they fuckin suck.

[TheMakyoura]

Paiste, sabian, zildjian, meinl

[BlackDeathWolf]

paiste meinl zildijan sabian

[gergenfonchen]

I actually like the Sabian the best haha

[Boosh0091]

Meinl ftw

[oujee321]

paiste meinl zildjan sabian

[pugNdrum]

paiste

sabian

zildjian

meinl

[BunnyCareyTool]

PaiSTe

SABIAN

Zildjian

Meinl

[TheBeatleDrummer]

the zildjians are winning all these comparissons

[MrtnMrnv]

I like all four, but I would go for

1. Zildjian and Mainl

2. Paiste

3. Sabian

[SicSociophobiac]

Paiste PST's kinda suck. Their Rude and 2002 are really good, but the PST's aren't.

[TheCoryography]

I like the alphas the best

[gergenfonchen]

@SicSociophobiac

Yeah, the PST 5's are pretty weak, but for the price it's a good beginner/ Replacement until I get something better crash

[PINKmyFLOYD]

@SicSociophobiac i think the pst5 are prett sweet

[SicSociophobiac]

@PINKmyFLOYD

I mean, I can't really say that about the PST 5's since I only have 3's. The PST 3's are really crappy. I just paid 40 bucks for a Wuhan crash, and it pwns the hell out of my Paiste.

[THEPANTSWEREDEAD]

Z-T line is way overrated. PST 5 or M8/Classics are the best deal.

[DetroitDoc]

Paiste sounds the best

[PeterPF13]

paiste, zildjian and meinl all sound pretty decent. the sabian sucks

[DrumTank]

I've got the Paiste! Both Rock and Medium Crash. They're really cool. ^^

The Meinl sounds good, too!

[gibsongod15]

Sabian has some really gross overtones to me. i like the paiste.

[explodingpimp]

Paiste definitely.

[DICEinmyPIE]

Sabian

[k0mbutcha]

paiste or meinl ... i've read that meinl cymbals last longer, so I'd probably choose the meinl :)

[fuvk50400]

paiste or meinl more light 4 me...sabian nah...zildijan ok

[thepain93]

pst all the way in price & quality.

[afheadra]

pst5 or sabian, i like more the sounds of the sabian b8 pro

[krzysztofszulc1]

pst5/zxt

[Musicunseen95]

i like the sabian

[mccartney0075]

zxt crash

[OreoCream19]

Meinl or sabian for me