Barney Frank asked about Thermite and New 9/11 Investigations

[Truthstorm911]

Hugo Bachmann, PhD -- Professor Emeritus and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology.

"In my opinion the building WTC 7 was, with great probability, professionally demolished,"

[Truthstorm911]

Danny Jowenko -- Proprietor, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V., a European demolition company.

Jeff Hill: Are you sticking by your comments where you say it must have been a controlled demolition?

DJ: Absolutely.

JH: Yes? So, you as being a controlled demolitions expert, you've looked at the building, you've looked at the video and you've determined with your expertise that --

DJ: I looked at the drawings, the construction and it couldn't be done by fire. So, no, absolutely not.

[ConspiracyNut]

I know arunsuck. I'm a member of architucts and eggneers of 911 truth. I joined five times. I know 911 was an onside job because I shit my pantsw, that proves up.

[Truthstorm911]

Take note readers of this text book example of a disinformationist in action. Darmesis is a good case study of shill behavior. Note how he uses multiple disinformation techniques all in an effort to avoid discussing the key issue of the thermite evidence. Take a look at TWENTY-FIVE RULES OF DISINFORMATION online and then examine his direct use of the disinfo methods. If you study this exchange a bit you will gain real insight into the human mind and into cognitive dissonance.

[Darmesis]

Actually, dear readers, I was trying to get Truthstorm to 'rain down' on me some of that good ol' truth and how it actually fits into a cogent theory.

He does have a firm belief in dust which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that something indeed happened somewhere, somehow, by somebody. Fill in the blanks as you see fit with whatever conspiracy you feel most comfortable with. I kinda like the Lizard People angle, but I know many prefer the time-tested Jewish cabal.

Spectre Agent 420, out.

[Truthstorm911]

For solid proof of explosives in the WTC Google: "ACTIVE THERMITIC MATERIAL DISCOVERED IN DUST FROM THE 9/11 WORLD TRADE CENTER CATASTROPHY"

[Luinreg]

Attack journalism. What are ya going to do. Worst part is that the "journalist" is asking horrible questions that are meant to invoke emotion from Barney Frank baiting him into a conversation.

It is interesting that conspiracy theorists have a conspiracy they never want to actually do the hard research, science and investigation. Which would be better time spent than doing attack journalism in an attempt to defame a person's character.

[Truthstorm911]

Kamal S. Obeid, BS CE, MS CE, SE, PE Licensed Professional Structural and Civil Engineer, State of California.

"Only recently have I begun to examine the structural collapse of the buildings. Photos of the steel, evidence about how the buildings collapsed, the unexplainable collapse of WTC 7, evidence of thermite in the debris as well as several other red flags, are quite troubling indications of well-planned and controlled demolition."

[kellyelainewright61]

they don't want to know ,

[folkandfaith]

Barney Frank - the child molester who told the ACLU that he is a gay left-handed Jew.. And yet the Jewish angle is not allowed to be talked about.

[Darmesis]

Barney Frank being a perv? - quite likely. Barney Frank and banking scams which ushered in the recession? - extremely probable. Barney Frank correct about you nincompoops being "lunatics?" - right on the money!

[Truthstorm911]

Darmesis,

You like Barney Frank know exactly zero about 9/11 and are in complete denial of the overwhelming evidence pointing to an inside job.

We have hard evidence of explosives in the dust of the WTC towers which proves conclusively the towers were demolished. You are in denial of the facts.

[Darmesis]

Tstorm, if your movement has conclusive proof then I assume you have a 'conclusion.' Let's hear it - who, what, when, where, how, and why. I submit that you and yours are a loose collection of conspiranoids that might agree that your dust means 'something,' but still no semblance of an actual 'conspiracy theory.' If a large cache of toilet paper was found at WTC then there'd immediately be 1000 Truthers claiming case closed - "Col. Mustard, in the Billiard Room, with Jews that had 'the runs!'"

[Truthstorm911]

Extensive evidence can be found on the following sites supported by hundreds of credentialed experts and eye-witnesses. Check it out for yourself. Dont let truth deniers like Darmesis distract you, investigate it for yourself. You can make up your own mind without them telling you what to think cant you?

Stj911(dot)org

Ae911truth(dot)org

Patriotsquestion911(dot)com

Google videos watch for free:

911 Mysteries

Zeitgeist the Movie

Core of Corruption

Loose Change An American Coup

[Truthstorm911]

Cognitive dissonance, a psychological problem involving the uncomfortable tension that results from having two conflicting thoughts at once or engaging in behaviors that conflict with one's beliefs. In simple terms, it is the filtering of info that conflicts with what one already believes, in an effort to ignore that info and reinforce one's beliefs.

Thus deniers filter evidence pointing to an inside job in order to reinforce the false belief that our government wouldnt do such evil.

[Darmesis]

So, I guess that means that after 8 years you still do not have a cohesive, plausible theory, right? I'll put my dissonance up against yours any day of the week because I can succinctly tell you the who, what, where, why and how, and you can't. I'd bet dollars to donuts that you haven't even tried. Most conspiracists have 'anti-theory' - they have no idea what happened, they just feel it wasn't what history has determined. This movement is quickly becoming analogous to 'no moon landing.'

[Truthstorm911]

Darmesis,

I have dealt with disinformationists like you hundreds of times. Here is the disinfo method you are using in this post:

25 rules of Disinformation - #14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best for items qualifying for rule 10.

Sorry guy I am not falling for it. Because we don't know who specifically planted the demo charges in the WTC does not invalidate the hard evidence we have.

[Darmesis]

Like most, I like a good mystery, but I like the truth more. I tend to believe the Truth Movement likes the mystery more (one might say 'the journey over the destination'). I've read an article or two about the thermitic dust and found it lacking, but I'll look into a bit more and let you know if you've got my attention.

Have a good one.

[Truthstorm911]

I am sure the scientists involved in preparing the paper are breathless with anticipation of your findings. I will be sure to notify the press when you have made your "scientific" conclusions public. Should I also notify the foreign press? Something as important as your findings should be world wide front page news since your credentials and scientific experience are known throughout the globe.

[Darmesis]

Whatever, kid. I was trying to throw you a bone and not get your pants in a bind while I sit here and giggle over your movements latest 'smoking gun.' You can notify the press of whatever you want - y'all have had *tremendous* success with your other conclusions, ie live hijackers, missiles into the Pent., Silverstein admitting to insurance fraud, phony cell phone calls, fake Osamas, missing airplanes, etc. etc. etc. etc.

You've had 8 yrs. to come up with a theory and all you have is dust.

[Truthstorm911]

Darmesis here is the disinfo technique you are using now.

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation #9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

Try and downplay the dust evidence that proves conclusively explosives were used to take down the towers but you look like an idiot.

[Darmesis]

Yes, if we even make it to the FEMA work camps without being killed by global warming, Swine Flu, chemtrails, the Kennedy Assasins, Sasquatch, Jews, or Our Reptilian Overlords you may look me up and cackle "I TOLD YOU SO, SHEEPLE!" ere my death.

In the meantime have as much fun with the dust thing as you did with all those other pieces of 'conclusive evidence' (remember those nifty rocket pods under the jets? What disinfo rule were they under?) and I'll sit here waiting for your theory. Toodles

[Truthstorm911]

Disinfo #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first place, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how "sensitive they are to criticism".

[ConspiracyNut]

i agree trutstorm911. like you i'm a total dumfuk and loser. but we know 9111 weas onside job because we sawr it on the internet. what else do you need? We need a REVOLUSHUN of the dumfuks!

[Truthstorm911]

ConspiracyNut,

I have blocked your account, given thumbs down to all your comments, and will now ignore any and all comments you make other then to give them thumbs down of course. Have a nice day and remember the truth cannot be defeated no matter what you do or say. The truth that 9/11 was an inside job remains the truth. You can yell and scream and make an ass out of yourself all you want but the truth will not change. All future comments from you will not be read just down voted.

[ho2cultcha]

@Darmesis what bullshit! the fact that it's obvious that the official story is untrue is enough. there are plenty of theories floating around, and there's scientific evidence. i don't even care what a 'truther' is, but i'm an american citizen and i demand a thorough, impartial investigation into 9-11.

[Darmesis]

@ho2cultcha

You should definitely write your Congressman and demand a time-consuming and extremely expensive investigation that will conclusively answer whatever 911 'evidence' is en vogue this week. Tell him/her it will help stimulate the U.S. economy. Of course, it will have to conclude that ____ used ____ to ____ the WTC while simultaneously working with ____ who did ____ to the Pentagon so that GWB, working with ____ could ____. If it doesn't, it's another whitewash.

[SuspiciousPatriot]

In a word...PATHETIC!

[SuspiciousPatriot]

Wasn't he accused of being a "kiddy diddler"?

And he's out there calling people who question 911 lunatics? LOL!

Isn't he one of the guys who brought us the banking scam...the housing and mortgage collapse?

So, he's a corrupt traitor and a kiddy diddler?

Wow - and we expect justice from a guy like this? LOL!

Next thing you know, they'll be telling me you can get 80,000 signatures on a petition for a new investigation into 911 (in NY city) and it will all be for not, due to 1 judge.

[centrino105]

Mr. Frank, 49, whose actions are under investigation by the House ethics committee, has acknowledged purchasing sexual services from Gobie, 33, and other male prostitutes. He also has admitted employing Gobie as a personal assistant while knowing that Gobie continued to work as a call boy, but has insisted that he did not know that the services of prostitutes were being sold from his apartment.

[Truthstorm911]

Frank is a traitor to his country. I have nothing else to say.

[mainmedic]

barney frank is a such a disgusting little man. Why does anyone continue to care what he thinks. He's crazier than a loon and yet he keeps getting re-elected.  That doesn't say a whole lot for the people of Massachusetts

[WeAreChangeBoston]

Thanks for taking action.

[Seigu007]

Barney Frank. A flaming homo with a brain the size of a pubic hair. Old age or perhaps AIDS will get the best of him.

[Zalzal019]

This fat ass doesn't support a call from 9/11 families for a new investigation and then didn't even know what HR 1207 was? After just having a committee hearing on it? Remove this traitor from office. Vote out all incumbents in 2010.

[MrSammo1]

You're wasting your time.

They all know!

The fix is in.

The game rigged.

[ianat841]

Ah yes, good ol' fashioned homophopia from the dateless losers in the pseudo-fascist movement that is 9/11 "truth",

[StevenM818]

No it's true. Frank had sex with boys. This victim testified in court in 1999:

"There was sex between adult men... most of it had to do with young boys and young girls... there was a lot of parties where they would be senators and congressmen... one person that I'm not afraid to talk about... every time I see him... it disgusts me because it's --his name is Barney Frank."

Transcript

tinyurlDOTcom/2lkn4m

The victim was awarded $1 million v. the person who kidnapped him into the child sex ring.

[ianat841]

"8 years later....."

and you idiots still haven't accomplished anything. Man, I'm getting bored waiting for the 9/11 "truth" movement to do anything other than make stupid youtube videos.

Also, that petition failed, genius. Most of the "80,000" signatures were invalid. Too many "Mickey Mouse" and "Dick Burns" names on there.

[falconApoda]

Barney Frank: "You and your friends are lunatics..."

Truer words never spoken.

[911reset]

what an arrogant, fat, ugly, mouthy dem asshole this frank is.

[911reset]

@rlshut

be serious, what "reelection"? theyre all scumbags.

[howitzer24]

If Frank even considers the real scenario he'll have to accept he was wrong about so much.

[saaws]

I was there, and overall I thought he was good.

[jamesskeary]

the discovery of thermite what lunatics

[911reset]

@jamesskeary

another dick cheney's bitch has spoken.