@randomushka "язычество Славян ето прежде всего ненависть к хрюстианству"--------- Это вы где такое услышали ? )) Или, как всегда, от ветра головы своей ?..
Простите, насколько мне известно, реальных исторических памятников "слова" в том числе и песенных практически не осталось. Поэтому претензии на создание "оригинального" исторического фольклора в данном случае смешны. Мне кажется здесь просто достаточно красивая песня с хорошим музыкальным рядом, если кто-то заинтересуется русской истории на основе этого произведения, замечательно! Нет - можно просто с удовольствием прослушает.
Сорри..не понял. Доводы "против чего" ты ждещь ?.. Вообще-то, по правилам РУССКОГО этикета, это я должен ждать ответа, поскольку первый задал вопрос..
@gonorhin Да никакого, песня - набор слов с претензией на старину а пипл как известно хавает, вон там комрад про Великую Тартарию разьясняет - ну не в курсе он того что Тартария в Британнике 1771 года, это такойже шаблон представлений европейцев о России как бродящие по улицам медведи, балалайка и водка. Начитаются Ахиневичей, Трёхбулкиных и Асовых и несут бред в массы.
@gondorhin Да знаете ли как то поднадоели эти повылазившие из всех щелей хранители старины глубокой, такое ощущение что гордится своими предками которые трудом, потом и кровью невзирая на все передряги, нашествия, нерадивых правителей тысячу лет создавали то государство, что нынче называется Россией - западло, вместо этого плодят сказки про славяно-ариев, древних мудрых богов (процентов так на 95 являющихся фэнтезийным новоделом), великии империи русов и прочую светотень. За державу обидно.
@gonorhin It is history. Slavic people , all Slavic nations , become from Great Tartary - a big country in the northern parts of Asia bounded by Siberia on the north and west (Encyclopedia Britannica Vol. III , Edinburgh, 1771,p.887.). Tarcha and Tary -our Slavic gods. I just try to answer your question (with @trolviking) , who we are ?
@hbt2005 Encyclopedia Britannica,Diccionario Geografico Universico-spain encyclopedia from 1795;Map of World Mecatora-Jodocusa from 1606;Theatrum Orbis Terrarum from Abraham Ortelius 20.5.1570 Antverpy;A Prospect of The Most Famous Parts of the World from John Speed 1595 and 1626;Magne Tartarie,Magni Mogolis Imperii,Iaponiae et Chinae,Nova Descriptio from Pieter Schenk Amsterdam 1680;Scythia et Tartaria Asiatica - french map from 1697;Map of World from Giomo de Lilio 1700-1714 , they are real.
@orimak3a3 Maps is real but information from it - result of imagination and fairytales. Great Tartaria - Golden Horde (part of Mongol Empire, XI-XVI), mongols didnt have maps (and create it). The maps that names you post here, mostly copy-pasted tales of Marco Polo, nothing more. Pity but real fact.
@hbt2005 I thing you are wrong. I will try from other side. Can you check name "Mauro Orbini (high rank priest from Italy,was writer,ideologue, historian from the Republic of Ragusa , mid-16th century) and his book from 1601,Historiografia,also,in Russia from 1722. I hope you don't call it - tales and myths.
@orimak3a3 Lol, infamous mistery "Moscow Annals" ("Zions protocols" looks more real)? Do you know difference between history and ideology? Pan-slavinism got a lot of myths creators but its ideology - not history. But you also can check wikkipedia.
@hbt2005 Slavs history wrote Slavs enemies today.I newer used Wikipedia.Wikipedia isn't history.I used for Slavs history "Mauro Orbini".He was real historian writer.His book"kratkoe sobranie historiceskoe naroda slovjanskogo i ego slavi"from 1722 in Russian language.I wrote before,but you just jump this point.From 1559 Vatican systematically destroy a lot of books in west Europe,as in Russia were destroyed during the reign of the Romanovs in17th century. So is difficult to find....
..a true history.Mauro Orbini named on the list of books taken from where the information with names of writers,they are gone all of them.Maybe they are still well hidden in the Vatican.Your side of history is history written by Germans,Jews,Syrians,but not Slavs.It isn't you wonder then we yet been Slavs still hold the major part of Europe and we don't have own history?Today,archaeological digs throughout Europe only confirms our presence everywhere and pretty long.You think we were bears?
@orimak3a3 Orbini was ideologist and had own reason to create myth, name of his reason - Osman Empire. Good old theory of conspiracy, hiden history destroyed by gemans/church/jews/americans/masons/ etc... blah-blah-blah. But can you call name of any history book destroyed in Russian Empire during Romanov reign (for example catolic church had lists of book)? About history of slavs - learn to respect real history not a fairy tales about great slavs empire, it has enough glory without myths.
@hbt2005 History wrote winners,but doesn't mean it is true.A chronicler of historic chronicles:A battle that won his party,thought not militarily important,describes detailed.Other battles,serious and decisive,where his nation lost,describes a very modest or none.This attitude,however,is characteristic of the old chronicles,that the Slavs didn't write.So the old history,which teach children in the schools today,is essentially based on the view nations that where hostiles to the Slavs....
..So today you call this history"real history".I don't agree with this position of view.Orbini was benedictine monk,writer,historian not just ideologue,how you try to present here.He was a member hierarchy of Catholic Church.His book (1601) is not myth,conspiracy or theory. In the book he said:If someone from the other nations will want the right to hate skew,I refer to the testimony of historian,whose list of examples.This writers her many works on the show.I think this is about you.
While translating the book into Russian(18th century),was a list of historians and their works edited,because in Russian translations in alphabetical order,for some reason at the end of the letter M.Rest of the list being lost.Orbini original letter continue.The list is interesting and that all names are now unknown.Where disappear all this books?At the end of 16 century they still had Orbini available in large library of prince Dubrin Pazarsky in Italy.Orbini named two Russian historians ...
..Jeremej Rusin and Ivan Bolsoj Gotsky.Orbini didn't write nothing about today recognized historians and nothing about Nestor and his "Povest Vremennych let".It isn't conspiracy,I just don't believe everything they tell me and try use my mind.And you are smart , how can I tell you name of books which were destroy, isn't logic.
@orimak3a3 So if you cant say anything about "destroyed books" (for example inquisitions had lists of book so names of forbidden and destroyed really known) how you trying to introduce Jeremej Rusin and Ivan Bolsoj Gotsky like historians, just only because that one italian wrote it? Very funny, do you know joke about "celibate" and "celebrate"? Russians didnt have second names till XVIII age (imp. Ekaterins reforms), so names Orbini mentioned - look like fake.
@hbt2005 This book has been translated from Italian to Russian language,the direct command of tsar Peter1 1722.He would newer dear translate forgeries or fakes.
@orimak3a3 Yep, it was translated and edited, because its really good ideological material for building Empire (Russian Empire) Imperator Petr was enough educated, and he got information real sources, not like Orbini who gathers tales without any critisim and compilate myths and legends. And how about your words "Romanovs dynasty destroyed books?" Do you know how imperator Peter's dynasty called, Romanov isnt it? Look like theory of conspiracy and "slavs enemies wrote history" a bit jammed ?:)
@hbt2005 Look,generally.No coincidentally burned large libraries of-Alexandria,Etruscan,,Constantinopolitan,Jaroslav Wise,Ivan the Terrible,Afinska.Most of this fires was in medieval Europe from 15. to 17.century.There are also books that Orbini appointed in his work.He wasn't Slav,but he was honorary man,wrote true,not like others.Winners always wrote history,but their history.You just play a game with words.You don't want to see generally.
@orimak3a3 Its just your personal opinion, but real fact is that in Orbini book has a lot of myths and legends. About libraries you mention before - they were burnt or lost a bit earlier that Orbini even was born. For example Imperator Peter was russian and had access to all sources which existed in Russia, Ordini got only library of small prince. Its not serious to accord on tales of italian who never been in Russia (or Tartaria, lol?) and call it true.
@hbt2005 List of banned books began to be compiled in the Vatican 1559 . Books in this list started to destroy in half of 16th centuries in Europe . In Russia manny books destroyed in 17th century (mabye Romanovs or Nikon ?)
@orimak3a3 Any evidence of destroyed books (like list of banned books) in Russia please? Until u can bring em - all talks about destroyed and wrong slavs history just cheap tales for uneducated people. If you said something - bring facts please.
@hbt2005 Orbini was high rank monk from Raguza . He got high ecclesiastically position in the city Raguza and as such had access to Catholic libraries in Italy , not what Peter1 . Vatican still hiding a lot of valuable books today.
@orimak3a3 What is Raguza? Small province of Italy, do you really think that even high priest got something from Vatican? And Vatican's sources of course more competent in Russian and Tatars history than Russian and Tatar sources, lol?
@orimak3a3 I would say that Slavs deserve to see hidden books of Vatican underground libraries... But they (in Vatican) "show no Interests" or better say rather keep them for them selves for 1 reason - if they would show these Books, the history would be simply wrong (and Jesus's, "old Hebrews" stories especially)...
@VendPrekmurec Yep, today is for Slavs night, but after the night comes the day. Thank's for the lesson. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year for all of you.
@orimak3a3 He did what he supposed to do, followed orders and reasons, he wasnt slavian (just for facts - so his reasons far from history). His book full of myths and legends (Yazikov's and many others slavs historians opinion) with some real facts but it isnt even "side history of Slavs", it just his own point of view created with and for ideological/political reasons, like in Nazi German was created myth of Aryan-Germans, good old technique, ideology - not history, I have to repeat.
@hbt2005 In the mid-19th century were Europe capitols charmed of Russian aristocrat Varvara Dimitrij Roman-Korsacov (real person).Her beauty and keen mind to envy the Empress Eugenie-wife of Napoleon3(again real persons).This famous beautiful Russian women generally called it in Europe "Venus from TARTAR"(real name).How Do exactly as follows .Myths,ideology,history,or lies?What do you think?Please don't use Wikipedia.
@orimak3a3 ROFL, mate, Fedor Emelianenko also called as "Last Imperator" but it really doesnt mean he has royal ancestors, europeans always impressed by exotic nicknames, titles. But real fact that tatars called themselfs "tatars" not "tartars". If really study history you'll find that "TARTARS" similar to "VARVARS" and means not state/country/nation but common call of many nations which lived in Eurasia
@orimak3a3 And main question still remain: all this crap about Tartaria, childs of Oreya, clip - in what connection or link with history of Russia or Slavs? Just because do you see someone in "sarafan"?) Its just folk-history or pseudo-paganism and commercial product - nothing more.
@hbt2005 Based on your theory Slavs not over 2 centuries have left the swampy territory occupied half of Europe about how there is no reccord . They've done it without quality weapon without combat experience as in swamps both could get very difficult.
@orimak3a3 Occupied half what??? Germans tribes is not slavs, just for moment. Italians, franks, celts - is not slavs (I can mention about Spain and Greece), so, what and when slavs occupied?
@hbt2005 If I believed in you and what history presents the Slavs not actually exist. Today all archeological finds in Europe are germanic, celtic, franks, italians. Slavs appeared as fast as ligtning as a miracle. Compare the german territory to the territory of Slavs today, maindly size and land area. Then compare it with the presentation of history today. And finally bite to think logically. I believe in your common sense.
@orimak3a3 Whats to compare? Territory that moderns slavs got after WWII? Or after Osman Empire fall? And describe please what territories do you think is Slavs?
@hbt2005 I was busy a few days, but VendPrekmurec wrote what I think too. For me it is now almost the whole history a scamp. I wish you Merry Christmas and happy New Year.
@hbt2005 You should research the latest information concerning the genetic background of western and eastern Europeans. the latest info shows that the emergence of Slavs in and around The Danube River progressed as far as Siberia and western Europe which includes and Hibernia which today is Ireland. The Genome of the people is called R1a1 which is the Aryan expansion of white folks. If you research it well you will find a map of R1A1 expansion. Good Luck to you Brother
@orimak3a3 There were no "Germans" until 15/16th century AD. Only Goths. Berlin was Venetic (old Slavic) city of Berlo or Belog (Bear's lair), Brandemburg was Branibor, Volgast was Vedegosh, Leipzig was Lipsk, Graz was Korenitsa,Gradec, etc, not to mention Austria or Oesterreich - which was born on basis of Slovenian Karantania and democratic law called "Rota" (Institutio Slavenika Lex) - which inspired Thomas Jefferson's Decleration of Independance of America.
@orimak3a3 "History" is occult lie. The same thing happened to Swedish (Wends) people. Their ancestors were VENDELS and not "Germans".. Germany is georgraphical meaning. German Slavs (Venedi) were Germanized over 10th century AD after brutal wars of Christian Byzantium with Gothic Yahwistic Ordo of Teutons against "pagan" (Gog and Magog) Slavs.
@orimak3a3 "Varvar" is transliteration of "Barbar"(betatism of v or vice versa), which came from old Slavic&Sanskrit Barbar or Brblar which means "to speak nonsense" (non understandable language).
@hbt2005 Marco Polo brings a pictures from country of khan Kubilaj.They shows white europe people,not mongols;french cartograf Allain Manesson Mallet(1630-1706) from Franfurct 1719 his pictures again "mongols and tatars" are caucasians-white.In the pictures no bars,no vodka.Today's Slavic history is laying from all sides.
@orimak3a3 Tatars and mongos is not slavs, Marco Polo and many others brought a lot of tales and myths, like Great Tartaria, India's Shambala and many others.
@orimak3a3 Yep some of caucasians - white, but it doesn't mean that they are slavs. About fantasies of Marco Polo you can find a lot of evidence (just look on modern map and all these old maps you had mention before (its ussual thing - fairytales about adventures in terra incognita - from Polo and Columb to our days)
@kenstarr2009 Я спрашивал не про то, как она одета.. не понял также при чем здесь Ксения Собчак, если вопрос был про адекватность претензий на "языческую старину".
@kenstarr2009 А доводы за сводятся к тому что если на Собчак напялить сарафан с кокошником и припахать петь про дедов, внуков сварожьих с урочищами понимаешь, руническими - так всё, по уши в языческой старине?
people are arguing about stupid things who cares .the thing that matters is that the germans and slavs were brothers for a long time
hailtheswastika1996 5 days ago
Это христианство поглотило культуры славян и навязало свое видение!
lumo40 1 month ago
Прекрасная песня!
lumo40 1 month ago
Дерьмо канешно ваше видео , язычество Славян ето прежде всего ненависть к хрюстианству а не дерьмо пляски у костра
randomushka 1 month ago
@randomushka Боишься? ))) Бойся великою расу!
12387683 1 month ago
@randomushka "язычество Славян ето прежде всего ненависть к хрюстианству"--------- Это вы где такое услышали ? )) Или, как всегда, от ветра головы своей ?..
gondorhin 3 weeks ago
Душа замирает..
KangooRD 1 month ago
Простите, насколько мне известно, реальных исторических памятников "слова" в том числе и песенных практически не осталось. Поэтому претензии на создание "оригинального" исторического фольклора в данном случае смешны. Мне кажется здесь просто достаточно красивая песня с хорошим музыкальным рядом, если кто-то заинтересуется русской истории на основе этого произведения, замечательно! Нет - можно просто с удовольствием прослушает.
sabledutemps1 2 months ago
ПРОСТО ЧУДЕСНО!!!!
NARAINA1000 3 months ago
Сорри..не понял. Доводы "против чего" ты ждещь ?.. Вообще-то, по правилам РУССКОГО этикета, это я должен ждать ответа, поскольку первый задал вопрос..
gonorhin 5 months ago
У меня всего один вопрос к "детям Ория" - какое отношение эти бредни имеют к истории нашего народа ?
gonorhin 5 months ago
@gonorhin Да никакого, песня - набор слов с претензией на старину а пипл как известно хавает, вон там комрад про Великую Тартарию разьясняет - ну не в курсе он того что Тартария в Британнике 1771 года, это такойже шаблон представлений европейцев о России как бродящие по улицам медведи, балалайка и водка. Начитаются Ахиневичей, Трёхбулкиных и Асовых и несут бред в массы.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 Ваш коммент (простите за избитейшее сравнение, нет все же) словно глоток чистой холодной воды.. Несказанно приятно встретить адекватного человека !
gondorhin 2 months ago
@gondorhin Да знаете ли как то поднадоели эти повылазившие из всех щелей хранители старины глубокой, такое ощущение что гордится своими предками которые трудом, потом и кровью невзирая на все передряги, нашествия, нерадивых правителей тысячу лет создавали то государство, что нынче называется Россией - западло, вместо этого плодят сказки про славяно-ариев, древних мудрых богов (процентов так на 95 являющихся фэнтезийным новоделом), великии империи русов и прочую светотень. За державу обидно.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@trolviking1 А "наши" этот какие ?..
gonorhin 5 months ago
@gonorhin We are slavic and ariec people child of Tarcha and Tary.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Sorry, i do not understand. What are you talking about ?.
gonorhin 2 months ago
@gonorhin It is history. Slavic people , all Slavic nations , become from Great Tartary - a big country in the northern parts of Asia bounded by Siberia on the north and west (Encyclopedia Britannica Vol. III , Edinburgh, 1771,p.887.). Tarcha and Tary -our Slavic gods. I just try to answer your question (with @trolviking) , who we are ?
orimak3a3 2 months ago
@orimak3a3 lol, its not history, it fairytale was created by AHinevich and some other freaks aprox. 20 years ago, Pseudopaganism as it is.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 Encyclopedia Britannica,Diccionario Geografico Universico-spain encyclopedia from 1795;Map of World Mecatora-Jodocusa from 1606;Theatrum Orbis Terrarum from Abraham Ortelius 20.5.1570 Antverpy;A Prospect of The Most Famous Parts of the World from John Speed 1595 and 1626;Magne Tartarie,Magni Mogolis Imperii,Iaponiae et Chinae,Nova Descriptio from Pieter Schenk Amsterdam 1680;Scythia et Tartaria Asiatica - french map from 1697;Map of World from Giomo de Lilio 1700-1714 , they are real.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Maps is real but information from it - result of imagination and fairytales. Great Tartaria - Golden Horde (part of Mongol Empire, XI-XVI), mongols didnt have maps (and create it). The maps that names you post here, mostly copy-pasted tales of Marco Polo, nothing more. Pity but real fact.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 I thing you are wrong. I will try from other side. Can you check name "Mauro Orbini (high rank priest from Italy,was writer,ideologue, historian from the Republic of Ragusa , mid-16th century) and his book from 1601,Historiografia,also,in Russia from 1722. I hope you don't call it - tales and myths.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Lol, infamous mistery "Moscow Annals" ("Zions protocols" looks more real)? Do you know difference between history and ideology? Pan-slavinism got a lot of myths creators but its ideology - not history. But you also can check wikkipedia.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 Slavs history wrote Slavs enemies today.I newer used Wikipedia.Wikipedia isn't history.I used for Slavs history "Mauro Orbini".He was real historian writer.His book"kratkoe sobranie historiceskoe naroda slovjanskogo i ego slavi"from 1722 in Russian language.I wrote before,but you just jump this point.From 1559 Vatican systematically destroy a lot of books in west Europe,as in Russia were destroyed during the reign of the Romanovs in17th century. So is difficult to find....
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
..a true history.Mauro Orbini named on the list of books taken from where the information with names of writers,they are gone all of them.Maybe they are still well hidden in the Vatican.Your side of history is history written by Germans,Jews,Syrians,but not Slavs.It isn't you wonder then we yet been Slavs still hold the major part of Europe and we don't have own history?Today,archaeological digs throughout Europe only confirms our presence everywhere and pretty long.You think we were bears?
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Orbini was ideologist and had own reason to create myth, name of his reason - Osman Empire. Good old theory of conspiracy, hiden history destroyed by gemans/church/jews/americans/masons/ etc... blah-blah-blah. But can you call name of any history book destroyed in Russian Empire during Romanov reign (for example catolic church had lists of book)? About history of slavs - learn to respect real history not a fairy tales about great slavs empire, it has enough glory without myths.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 History wrote winners,but doesn't mean it is true.A chronicler of historic chronicles:A battle that won his party,thought not militarily important,describes detailed.Other battles,serious and decisive,where his nation lost,describes a very modest or none.This attitude,however,is characteristic of the old chronicles,that the Slavs didn't write.So the old history,which teach children in the schools today,is essentially based on the view nations that where hostiles to the Slavs....
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
..So today you call this history"real history".I don't agree with this position of view.Orbini was benedictine monk,writer,historian not just ideologue,how you try to present here.He was a member hierarchy of Catholic Church.His book (1601) is not myth,conspiracy or theory. In the book he said:If someone from the other nations will want the right to hate skew,I refer to the testimony of historian,whose list of examples.This writers her many works on the show.I think this is about you.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
While translating the book into Russian(18th century),was a list of historians and their works edited,because in Russian translations in alphabetical order,for some reason at the end of the letter M.Rest of the list being lost.Orbini original letter continue.The list is interesting and that all names are now unknown.Where disappear all this books?At the end of 16 century they still had Orbini available in large library of prince Dubrin Pazarsky in Italy.Orbini named two Russian historians ...
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
..Jeremej Rusin and Ivan Bolsoj Gotsky.Orbini didn't write nothing about today recognized historians and nothing about Nestor and his "Povest Vremennych let".It isn't conspiracy,I just don't believe everything they tell me and try use my mind.And you are smart , how can I tell you name of books which were destroy, isn't logic.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 So if you cant say anything about "destroyed books" (for example inquisitions had lists of book so names of forbidden and destroyed really known) how you trying to introduce Jeremej Rusin and Ivan Bolsoj Gotsky like historians, just only because that one italian wrote it? Very funny, do you know joke about "celibate" and "celebrate"? Russians didnt have second names till XVIII age (imp. Ekaterins reforms), so names Orbini mentioned - look like fake.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 This book has been translated from Italian to Russian language,the direct command of tsar Peter1 1722.He would newer dear translate forgeries or fakes.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Yep, it was translated and edited, because its really good ideological material for building Empire (Russian Empire) Imperator Petr was enough educated, and he got information real sources, not like Orbini who gathers tales without any critisim and compilate myths and legends. And how about your words "Romanovs dynasty destroyed books?" Do you know how imperator Peter's dynasty called, Romanov isnt it? Look like theory of conspiracy and "slavs enemies wrote history" a bit jammed ?:)
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 Look,generally.No coincidentally burned large libraries of-Alexandria,Etruscan,,Constantinopolitan,Jaroslav Wise,Ivan the Terrible,Afinska.Most of this fires was in medieval Europe from 15. to 17.century.There are also books that Orbini appointed in his work.He wasn't Slav,but he was honorary man,wrote true,not like others.Winners always wrote history,but their history.You just play a game with words.You don't want to see generally.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Its just your personal opinion, but real fact is that in Orbini book has a lot of myths and legends. About libraries you mention before - they were burnt or lost a bit earlier that Orbini even was born. For example Imperator Peter was russian and had access to all sources which existed in Russia, Ordini got only library of small prince. Its not serious to accord on tales of italian who never been in Russia (or Tartaria, lol?) and call it true.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 List of banned books began to be compiled in the Vatican 1559 . Books in this list started to destroy in half of 16th centuries in Europe . In Russia manny books destroyed in 17th century (mabye Romanovs or Nikon ?)
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Any evidence of destroyed books (like list of banned books) in Russia please? Until u can bring em - all talks about destroyed and wrong slavs history just cheap tales for uneducated people. If you said something - bring facts please.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 Orbini was high rank monk from Raguza . He got high ecclesiastically position in the city Raguza and as such had access to Catholic libraries in Italy , not what Peter1 . Vatican still hiding a lot of valuable books today.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 What is Raguza? Small province of Italy, do you really think that even high priest got something from Vatican? And Vatican's sources of course more competent in Russian and Tatars history than Russian and Tatar sources, lol?
hbt2005 2 months ago
@orimak3a3 I would say that Slavs deserve to see hidden books of Vatican underground libraries... But they (in Vatican) "show no Interests" or better say rather keep them for them selves for 1 reason - if they would show these Books, the history would be simply wrong (and Jesus's, "old Hebrews" stories especially)...
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@VendPrekmurec Yep, today is for Slavs night, but after the night comes the day. Thank's for the lesson. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year for all of you.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 He did what he supposed to do, followed orders and reasons, he wasnt slavian (just for facts - so his reasons far from history). His book full of myths and legends (Yazikov's and many others slavs historians opinion) with some real facts but it isnt even "side history of Slavs", it just his own point of view created with and for ideological/political reasons, like in Nazi German was created myth of Aryan-Germans, good old technique, ideology - not history, I have to repeat.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 In the mid-19th century were Europe capitols charmed of Russian aristocrat Varvara Dimitrij Roman-Korsacov (real person).Her beauty and keen mind to envy the Empress Eugenie-wife of Napoleon3(again real persons).This famous beautiful Russian women generally called it in Europe "Venus from TARTAR"(real name).How Do exactly as follows .Myths,ideology,history,or lies?What do you think?Please don't use Wikipedia.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 ROFL, mate, Fedor Emelianenko also called as "Last Imperator" but it really doesnt mean he has royal ancestors, europeans always impressed by exotic nicknames, titles. But real fact that tatars called themselfs "tatars" not "tartars". If really study history you'll find that "TARTARS" similar to "VARVARS" and means not state/country/nation but common call of many nations which lived in Eurasia
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 VARVAR mean ,the bearded , not tatar,not tartar.
orimak3a3 2 months ago
@orimak3a3 according other version that varvar means understandment of speeches this tribes "var-var"
hbt2005 2 months ago
@orimak3a3 And main question still remain: all this crap about Tartaria, childs of Oreya, clip - in what connection or link with history of Russia or Slavs? Just because do you see someone in "sarafan"?) Its just folk-history or pseudo-paganism and commercial product - nothing more.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 Based on your theory Slavs not over 2 centuries have left the swampy territory occupied half of Europe about how there is no reccord . They've done it without quality weapon without combat experience as in swamps both could get very difficult.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Occupied half what??? Germans tribes is not slavs, just for moment. Italians, franks, celts - is not slavs (I can mention about Spain and Greece), so, what and when slavs occupied?
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 If I believed in you and what history presents the Slavs not actually exist. Today all archeological finds in Europe are germanic, celtic, franks, italians. Slavs appeared as fast as ligtning as a miracle. Compare the german territory to the territory of Slavs today, maindly size and land area. Then compare it with the presentation of history today. And finally bite to think logically. I believe in your common sense.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Whats to compare? Territory that moderns slavs got after WWII? Or after Osman Empire fall? And describe please what territories do you think is Slavs?
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 I was busy a few days, but VendPrekmurec wrote what I think too. For me it is now almost the whole history a scamp. I wish you Merry Christmas and happy New Year.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@hbt2005 You should research the latest information concerning the genetic background of western and eastern Europeans. the latest info shows that the emergence of Slavs in and around The Danube River progressed as far as Siberia and western Europe which includes and Hibernia which today is Ireland. The Genome of the people is called R1a1 which is the Aryan expansion of white folks. If you research it well you will find a map of R1A1 expansion. Good Luck to you Brother
KnowHowDOCTOR 1 month ago
@orimak3a3 There were no "Germans" until 15/16th century AD. Only Goths. Berlin was Venetic (old Slavic) city of Berlo or Belog (Bear's lair), Brandemburg was Branibor, Volgast was Vedegosh, Leipzig was Lipsk, Graz was Korenitsa,Gradec, etc, not to mention Austria or Oesterreich - which was born on basis of Slovenian Karantania and democratic law called "Rota" (Institutio Slavenika Lex) - which inspired Thomas Jefferson's Decleration of Independance of America.
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@orimak3a3 "History" is occult lie. The same thing happened to Swedish (Wends) people. Their ancestors were VENDELS and not "Germans".. Germany is georgraphical meaning. German Slavs (Venedi) were Germanized over 10th century AD after brutal wars of Christian Byzantium with Gothic Yahwistic Ordo of Teutons against "pagan" (Gog and Magog) Slavs.
End of story.
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@orimak3a3 "Varvar" is transliteration of "Barbar"(betatism of v or vice versa), which came from old Slavic&Sanskrit Barbar or Brblar which means "to speak nonsense" (non understandable language).
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@hbt2005 Marco Polo brings a pictures from country of khan Kubilaj.They shows white europe people,not mongols;french cartograf Allain Manesson Mallet(1630-1706) from Franfurct 1719 his pictures again "mongols and tatars" are caucasians-white.In the pictures no bars,no vodka.Today's Slavic history is laying from all sides.
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Tatars and mongos is not slavs, Marco Polo and many others brought a lot of tales and myths, like Great Tartaria, India's Shambala and many others.
hbt2005 2 months ago
@hbt2005 They are not mongols,right,but they are CAUCASIAN - white.I wrote before. You think,Marco Polo was liar?
orimak3a3 2 months ago in playlist SLOVANSKE
@orimak3a3 Yep some of caucasians - white, but it doesn't mean that they are slavs. About fantasies of Marco Polo you can find a lot of evidence (just look on modern map and all these old maps you had mention before (its ussual thing - fairytales about adventures in terra incognita - from Polo and Columb to our days)
hbt2005 2 months ago
Класссс!!!!!!!
parafrasa 5 months ago
Slawa RODU, Slawa Przodkom, Slawa Naszym Korzeniom!
Nasi Bogowie ,Nasi Przodkowie ZYJA w Naszej Krwi, Naszych Sercach, Naszych Jezykach.
Chwala BRACIA :)
Hyperboreja 6 months ago
ваще агонь +1
nikolaipavlovi4 8 months ago
все ее песни с ютуба скачал что нашел
nikolaipavlovi4 8 months ago
frumos
slobozia55 1 year ago
Дуже гарна пісня, спасибі!
532259alexandre 1 year ago 2
She's one hot Russian girl. Also love the song :D Слава Славянскием девушком (don't know russian)
EvilScrooge 1 year ago 3
хорошая песня, спасибо.
roman12ify 1 year ago
Живая песня.... и лад и склад
Sunarews108 2 years ago 13
She looks like a pagan godess!
wallentin76 2 years ago 6
@wallentin76 Действительно, она словно языческая богиня!
kenstarr2009 8 months ago
@kenstarr2009 И чем же она "богиня" ?...
gonorhin 5 months ago
@gonorhin Она красивая и подобающе одета, словно ожившая картинка. Не хабалка как Ксюха Собчак.
kenstarr2009 5 months ago 2
@kenstarr2009 Я спрашивал не про то, как она одета.. не понял также при чем здесь Ксения Собчак, если вопрос был про адекватность претензий на "языческую старину".
gonorhin 5 months ago
@gonorhin ну тогда жду твои доводы против...
kenstarr2009 5 months ago
@kenstarr2009 А доводы за сводятся к тому что если на Собчак напялить сарафан с кокошником и припахать петь про дедов, внуков сварожьих с урочищами понимаешь, руническими - так всё, по уши в языческой старине?
hbt2005 2 months ago
@wallentin76 No, she looks like a freak. Pseudo-Slavic clothes .. birches .. mysterious eyes ..
gondorhin 3 weeks ago