i was at this gig it was not THAT bad, it was uncomfortable and some parts were really effing loud, but i could have easily have stayed in this noise for an hour. i felt my whole body tingling. it was amazing.
As an 'old' MBV fan who was always slightly annoyed by the revisionist crap that surrounded their legacy, with 'Loveless' positioned as their 'masterpiece' (it was actually a bit of a disappointment at the time) I took great pleasure in seeing the reaction of the baby hipsters in the audience who probably thought that lightweight, uninspired sub-Cocteau Twins-style stuff like 'Blown a Wish' truly represented the band.
@precinkt cmon man it wasnt my fault MBV put out their best stuff while I was still swimming around trying to find eggs :/ btw I think no more sorry is better than anything on loveless and I barely got that album like a week ago.
I had a much better appreciation of what has to be mbv's best song after seeing them @ the nokia in times sq after 20 yrs music on this planet will never be the same!
Lol at the photos! I saw them in Newcastle in 91 and they got halfway through this when they blew the electricity. They fixed it up, came back on and just played the feedback!!Stunning.Round about the same time I saw The Swans at the same venue and they were just as loud. God bless MBV
Sounds like a recording of an earthquake! Reminds me of those recordings of the one that preceded the 2004 tsunami in Indonesia.
I don't think any mike can adequately record what it actually feels like. Ended up doing the same thing, covering my ears for what seemed like a bloody long time, when I saw then back in 1991 in Sydney. You could've killed small birds with that feedback. I'd read reviews at the time mentioning this bit, but nothing prepares you for the experience.
this is incredible. it defies any category that attempts to describe it. it is the loudest thing you will ever hear in your life, ever. so help you satan.
I love this band, and I've tried to figure out why they do this. I can't come up with a reasonable explanation. Lou Reed did the same thing for one album/tour for the sole purpose of demonstrating that people will endure any noise if it's packaged right, and they did. Anyone that tells me I need to be there to understand can fuck off. Somebody get real and explain the thought process behind this "holocaust", as MBV calls it. I don't get it.
You sir, are a fucking idiot. Try experiencing this in the flesh or actually listening to Metal Machine Music before spouting trite, mojo reader nonsense like this. Noise is an integral part of what makes MBV & VU what they are, and MMM and "the holocaust section" are 2 of the most perfect, downright beautiful distillations of pure sound I have ever experienced. The sheer physicality of this doesn't exactly carry well on a youtube video.
I just saw them in October. Huge fan and had no idea they did this "Holocaust section" - It's just simply amazing. Just have to be there...Not in an amazing artsy way, not as a statement of any kind - but if you can take anything away from it like that, great! I didn't though...Just literally the feeling of the bass and everything is quite an amazing experience. And I don't do drugs...you don't need it. Well anyway, that's just how I felt. If you have a chance to see them live, give it a shot...
wtf no sound is playing... maybe its just my browser, but ive closed it and opened again and again and this video has no sound still.... fuckin figures, something I want to hear, I cant.
I enjoy these guys, but the rationalization that this is somehow "art" says a lot about the need for their fans to enable. I appreciate the noise in small(er) doses, and I even see that a longish section serves some purpose as a statement, but my guess is that these guys are laughing their collective asses off at the folks who think this is anything other than seeing what they can get away with.
i was there at the LA show on October 1st and was standing literally right in front of the railing for this part. I can tell you as someone who has been there that this is VERY disorienting. imagine the db count vs. a jet engine taking off (not much diff) and the audience WASNT soaked in water to help absorb the energy from the speakers! after a while it is very much like a hallucination and you CAN in fact hear a repetitive drone buried in there.
I was at the show at the Santa Monica civic on Thursday (10/2) and I have to say that I think the final twenty minutes are a form of crowd punishment. It has to be a big joke they're playing on us. When the crowd cheered at the end, Shields did a sort of double-take and looked disgusted by the crowd. Does anyone else think the whole bit is irony?
No, shoegaze has always contained noise elements ( I mean noise as a music genre) and always song of My Bloody Valentine often contained lots of noise and/or feedback.
I think this is just a part of their musical expression. And yes, I, and also a lot of people in the crowd, see it the same way.
i walked out last night and was like, "huh.. FUCK, AH FUCKK, I CAN'T HEAR MYSELF!"
you could feel it through you, like being in some kind of bombarding storm of sound. the ringing was disorienting. and I wish I would have worn the earplugs they were handing out. haha. I have a feeling my ears are gonna ring ling this for the next week.
that's strange, since all the band members are wearing ear plugs too, At the santa monica show in California, they provided free ear plugs, something i never saw before at a concert where the band asks you to wear them.
I FELT that whole 15 minutes of feedback pummeling me like an air machine gun last night in Chicago. You literally FEEL the sound not emotionally but FEEL it on your skin. That was a sonic assault. I was blown away. I loved it. I tripped out a little. Amazing show. Loudest show I have ever seen. Best show I have ever seen. Best band EVER. Nothing else like it. They are on another level altogether.
Is anyone really concerned about others enough to care whether or not they wear earplugs? Seriously.
I'm seeing them Tuesday in SF, and if the need strikes to stick a finger in my ear and wiggle it around, I'm going to do it. Maybe someone can type about it later.
things like this seem best suited for someone at the show and wont have the same positive impact without the things that came before or after this feedback
Amazing. Sonic torture. Its like driving past a car crash. You know it will be bad, but you can't help yourself. Anyway, MBV rule. I'm buying good earplugs.
I've seen both MBV and Merzbow, and MBV were definitely louder. I think Boris were louder than both, though (although they were playing a much smaller venue than MBV).
If you're they type of person who says "if it's too loud you're too old", your ears will be shot before long, you'll not be able to listen to MBV in a few years, and we will laugh at you!
hehe youre right Dudley1970 i wear ear plugs all the time now, and a blindfold, and have now taken a vow of silence,starting now...no now, hang on....from now.
this was amazing, awsome live...stuff like this is what mbv live are about, if you dont like it dont go, i could have listened to another hour of this and i was down the front without earplugs..
haha right on! fuck the earplugs. I was front row center at the Kool Haus in Toronto and I didn't wear the earplugs either and my ears are fine. I suspect the decibel levels have been exaggerated.
they are amazing. MBV is literally the only band in the world that can get away with doing this. i'm sure this lasted longer in manchester, but i couldn't really sense time to be honest. also, taking your earplugs out in the middle of it to see what it's like is a bad idea.
I'm a huge fan of MBV - Loveless is the greatest album of all time but I don't understand why they do this - maybe in 1990 when they were kids it was funny - but now? It just seems childish - they're better than this.
There is in fact a point to the Holocaust section, but if you can't grasp the fact that it isn't performed for "humor", I doubt you'll get why they play it.
Humour is the best possible interpretation - all other explanations reflect worse upon them. Shields is a genius but I suppose Gandhi drank his own piss and Einstein screwed around on his wife - no one is perfect.
I like how the mic is completely destroyed by their sound. Can't pick up anything. God, I hope I'll get to go to one of their shows. I was three when Loveless came out, so this is the first chance in my life to see them live. Music these days is either too boring and tame or too generically 'rockin'. These guys have been around, what, 24 years? And yet they still sound new.
By the way if anyone wants to capture the My Bloody Valentine live experience I recommend that you travel to Stansted and lie down by the runway with a copy of Loveless on your Ipod, quarf a bottle and a half of Liebfraumilch and a fistful of Magic Mushrooms.
facts about MBV's Monday show: at one point, the sound measured 132db at the mixing desk - as loud as a jet engine at a distance of 100m. The sound techs had to wear ear defenders throughout, and the main sound engineer had to stand barefoot on a block of foam in order to stop his eyeballs vibrating in their sockets (!).
lots of the comments below show just how tame "indie" music has become. hopefully the MBV tour will raise the bar again and signal the end for bands like The (total lack of) Feeling.
perish the thought that some people went to the MBV gigs and actually came away having FELT something.
give me glorious noise/excitement/deafness over the mediocre "indie" Sub-Pap that pervades the scene at the moment.
yes - having the Valentines back has blown away the cobwebs of tired indie complacency and reminded me of how fresh and exciting music can be! Perhaps too much has been made of the soundsstorm finale though- it has to be remembered that there were about 70 minutes of beautiful song craft before this happened and this worked best in the context of an amazing show
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im trying to get into this band, ive downloaded some stuff but it sounds very airy like theres nothing to the music its just ambient shite. i like what they do, wretched feedback swirls and all that but gimme the verve anyday mccabe's a much better guitarist, and by that i dont mean technically, just for the soundscapes he creates all MBV songs sound the same, very formulaic and drab.
you quite clearly havent listened to all their material i understand what you mean by airy but its supposed to be like that plus its all about the music. mccabes a bit contrived for my liking uses far to many pedals
he does use alot of pedals but if theres a sound in your head and you can only make it by adding another pedal to the collection then i say go for it! (i dont mean like radiohead style, thats just taking the piss) what i love about verve is that mccabe will always play the song a different way (he nearly made owen morris lose his marbles in northern soul sessions because he refused to repeat himself over and over, but after, he said mccabe is the most talented MUSICIAN he's ever worked with)
no, seriously... MBV is not about noise but pop tunes. try the "you made me realize" EP. i bought it when it came out, and it's still to me the best EP ever made.
I was at the Manchester 2 night gig and it was so bloody loud that I left the local halfway through the set and stayed in the bar for the rest of the show. It was so loud that my ears almost bled. When that's said the performance was impeccable and the band tight and played very well but when concerts become so loud I get nothing out of it, except tinnitus! and that is what you get from a My Bloody Valentine concert!
23 minutes first night in glasgow didnt put fingers in me ears or use earplugs which may have been silly as 20 mins after gig couldnt hear a thing and now i everythings a bit funny. i found mogwai a louder live band but mogwai dont do it as long
LOL at those pussies with their fingers in their ears, what did they think they were going to see, The Pastels!?! I was at this gig and didn't think it was loud enough. Was only 15 minutes here though, I can only imagine that the Manchester 35 must have fucking mental.
You said you were a sound engineer for years, that's why your ears are probably fucked anyway. Who cares who's loudest? ..is this music or a world record attempt competition? next you'll be discussing who plays the fastest guitar solos..
Was at the Apollo on Sunday night. I've seen louder bands before - it was the *size* of the noise that was remarkable. Complete immersion. Only suffered a temporary loss of some of my hearing, even without plugs. What a night!
I went to the Manchester show last night and god was it noisy!!! I've only just regained my hearing!!! It starts off good, then it gets noisy, then it becomes unbearable and then the noise starts rattling your body! I just stood, amazed thinking "God, how can they carry on doing this???". Ours went on for twenty minutes. It was an amazing experience though and I'd DEFINITELY go again! Just DON'T take those earplugs or your fingers out of your ears during the feedback!!!
saw them at the appolo in manchester last night and all i can say is nothing prepares you for that noise!! i heard all about them doing that in the past. It most of been for 20 to 30 minutes.......it was intense as i didnt have the earplugs, amazing band and i want to see them again =D
I was blistering werent it, i can only imagine that that's what it's like to put your head inside the jet engine of a plane, I couldnt do anything but laugh. Fucking tops!
Ha ha thats exactly what i thought, a jet engine!! Saw em both nights in the apollo, best gigs ever. I found the holocaust quite soothing after about 15 minutes!
Loveless perhaps as great an album as there's been, but lets face it; that noise isn't music, & one isn't lacking in the requisite cool for saying as much.
i don't think you really have to worry. the whole hurting your ears thing is worse than it sounds, it's not even like piercing feedback that just sends shivers down your spine is more of gut rumbling and shakes you. it's immense. and yeah, they only do this at the end, so leave if you want. soon is spectacular
16 minutes of white noise ART WANK, It was a ok gig ive seen better, But if kevin shields could suck his own cock then he would as it was a little bit self indulgent
Hey, if you want something more conventional I hear that Phil Collins is touring again soon. Nothing 'arty' or 'indulgent' with the Phil-meister; you'd love it.
A mate and I saw them on Tuesday night and it was great. Belinda was on our side and she made two thirty somethings very happy. Bless her she came on like shed just dropped off the kids and popped round for a couple of hours to ruin everyones hearing. Yeah they do You made me realise and the 15 minutes apocalypse and I remember it well from the 90s. Had a bit of ear knack on Wednesday. Top top top! Now hoping Slowdive get back together with Rachel Goswell. Ooooh errr.
ear plugs can work great, but look into getting some hifi ear plugs, and for something like this you would probably want to consider at least 12db reduction. ;)
The sheer volume and spread of frequencies is clipping the input mic of whatever Marinade was using, so the sheer sense of being inside a jet engine is pretty much lost.
I've heard that they've done it for 40 minutes in the past, but I think they stopped after 25 when I saw them on Sunday.
God knows I love the Valentines, but I'd rather like a shortened version of "Realise" and more songs instead... But even this won't deter me from going to their Paris gig next month.
The longest sonic farts ever captured live for posterity!!!! MBV rock like guitar farting bastards!
busterabcat 1 week ago
shields = noise troll
:3
icebat 3 weeks ago
The human ears has been pussyfied or what?
castreed 3 months ago
NICE!!! SO FUCKING COOL!
fabsonicos 8 months ago
That.... was awesome. :D
hserokdivad 8 months ago
1:08 guy in blue shirt: hey whats happenin' hot stuff
girl looking at him: um, dude you have an erection.
guy in blue shirt: what? huh? *looks down* oh, shit this is awkward.
BDPizzle321 10 months ago 2
@BDPizzle321 Beahahahahehehe heh
redstopsignal1 9 months ago
It's not uncool to wear earplugs people. I know you would love to hear mbv for years to come. Take care of yourselves.
hserokdivad 11 months ago
i was at this gig it was not THAT bad, it was uncomfortable and some parts were really effing loud, but i could have easily have stayed in this noise for an hour. i felt my whole body tingling. it was amazing.
hundhun17 1 year ago
that guitar must be out of tune as fuck!
Roodski 1 year ago
As an 'old' MBV fan who was always slightly annoyed by the revisionist crap that surrounded their legacy, with 'Loveless' positioned as their 'masterpiece' (it was actually a bit of a disappointment at the time) I took great pleasure in seeing the reaction of the baby hipsters in the audience who probably thought that lightweight, uninspired sub-Cocteau Twins-style stuff like 'Blown a Wish' truly represented the band.
precinkt 1 year ago
@precinkt cmon man it wasnt my fault MBV put out their best stuff while I was still swimming around trying to find eggs :/ btw I think no more sorry is better than anything on loveless and I barely got that album like a week ago.
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precinkt 1 year ago
Sounds like Merzbow.
swans1997 1 year ago 2
I had a much better appreciation of what has to be mbv's best song after seeing them @ the nokia in times sq after 20 yrs music on this planet will never be the same!
bklyndude77 1 year ago
i lived through this in 1990, it's soooooo worth it. i love the excrutiatingly pained faces. lol.
menyc 1 year ago
Lol at the photos! I saw them in Newcastle in 91 and they got halfway through this when they blew the electricity. They fixed it up, came back on and just played the feedback!!Stunning.Round about the same time I saw The Swans at the same venue and they were just as loud. God bless MBV
DavFin9 1 year ago
@DavFin9 Man if Swans and MBV did a show together, that'd be bliss. A perfect evening.
swans1997 1 year ago 3
oh man the expressions on peoples faces...
echoplus2020 2 years ago
protect your ears!
animalmother4 2 years ago
My Bloody Valentine destroyed many-a-hipsters ears that night.
cardigansarecool 2 years ago 28
totally right!!
LuisDivision 1 year ago
@cardigansarecool well said my friend
seanlovesradiohead 1 year ago
Because they can!
riverplate0101 2 years ago
what a great music... what a great melodies... )
xyebiz 2 years ago 6
its like a nuke going off
therebeldomain 2 years ago 8
Sounds like a recording of an earthquake! Reminds me of those recordings of the one that preceded the 2004 tsunami in Indonesia.
I don't think any mike can adequately record what it actually feels like. Ended up doing the same thing, covering my ears for what seemed like a bloody long time, when I saw then back in 1991 in Sydney. You could've killed small birds with that feedback. I'd read reviews at the time mentioning this bit, but nothing prepares you for the experience.
HolidayInGuantanamo 2 years ago 3
this is incredible. it defies any category that attempts to describe it. it is the loudest thing you will ever hear in your life, ever. so help you satan.
font9a 2 years ago 8
i like peas
1210a 2 years ago 2
frozen or fresh. apparently there's no difference.
danieljamesmead 2 years ago
Lol at 0:25. Who in their right mind would br that close to the speakers. They don't sell eardrums, you know.
raisedlefteyebrow 2 years ago
THIS IS THE SOUND OF ??
feardhorcha 2 years ago
I love this band, and I've tried to figure out why they do this. I can't come up with a reasonable explanation. Lou Reed did the same thing for one album/tour for the sole purpose of demonstrating that people will endure any noise if it's packaged right, and they did. Anyone that tells me I need to be there to understand can fuck off. Somebody get real and explain the thought process behind this "holocaust", as MBV calls it. I don't get it.
senordoublethreat 2 years ago
You sir, are a fucking idiot. Try experiencing this in the flesh or actually listening to Metal Machine Music before spouting trite, mojo reader nonsense like this. Noise is an integral part of what makes MBV & VU what they are, and MMM and "the holocaust section" are 2 of the most perfect, downright beautiful distillations of pure sound I have ever experienced. The sheer physicality of this doesn't exactly carry well on a youtube video.
Umiarjuaq 2 years ago 3
funny huh??? why did the guys do that whole crazy opening to monty python??? i guess to see how long people will wait for the laughs.
eatdogs 2 years ago
what a stupid bloody wanker
ninebucks 2 years ago
er why?
blundenn 2 years ago
I suppose in the same way that flagellation is a religious experience?
Couldn't exactly hum it on the way home. Give me Loveless any day of the week.
matti556 2 years ago
...so it was pretty loud there, I guess.
Mekakakaka 2 years ago
COME TO BRAZIL! i want to experience deafness SO BAD!
ramonesaudibert 2 years ago 2
How is everyone in MBV not completely deaf?
jpb6892 2 years ago
They wear special earplugs.
Lobsterdeth 2 years ago
nope no ear plugs.
x13miles 2 years ago
who, the band members? of course they do
xtremeholymuffin 2 years ago
I will be seeing them at Coachella. i plan on wearing earplugs. the most heavy duty ones i can find and still....I will not be up front.
Pixiessp 2 years ago
Just saw them, no earplugs, front and center in Seattle. My ears are in heaven. Tinnitus heaven.
davethebrave 2 years ago
yes holy fuckin shit, i drowned in sound.
i was right next to you i was at the front center aswell!
outtathesky 2 years ago
good job. I got closer than I thought I would and because it was outdoors it was not bad at all. Still wore earplugs though.
Pixiessp 2 years ago
1:30
aww
moschicambodia 3 years ago
I just saw them in October. Huge fan and had no idea they did this "Holocaust section" - It's just simply amazing. Just have to be there...Not in an amazing artsy way, not as a statement of any kind - but if you can take anything away from it like that, great! I didn't though...Just literally the feeling of the bass and everything is quite an amazing experience. And I don't do drugs...you don't need it. Well anyway, that's just how I felt. If you have a chance to see them live, give it a shot...
marcus242 3 years ago 3
each to their own
i loved it and them. made my decade.
fishingrhod 3 years ago
apparently when they do this it's so loud it can cause auditory hallucinations
hgldypgldy 3 years ago
wtf no sound is playing... maybe its just my browser, but ive closed it and opened again and again and this video has no sound still.... fuckin figures, something I want to hear, I cant.
InterpolFL 3 years ago
It's just noise, you can't hear much in this video other than the microphone dying.
farfle10 2 years ago
LOL I love 1:36
childlost 3 years ago
I enjoy these guys, but the rationalization that this is somehow "art" says a lot about the need for their fans to enable. I appreciate the noise in small(er) doses, and I even see that a longish section serves some purpose as a statement, but my guess is that these guys are laughing their collective asses off at the folks who think this is anything other than seeing what they can get away with.
marshallcrenshaw 3 years ago 5
If you haven't been there yourself, don't comment. Seriously, its like a religious experience.
xtremeholymuffin 2 years ago 3
word up. I would see it again and again
debaser247 2 years ago
completely agree.
iviizero1979 2 years ago
a sure sign of a douchebag - listening to complete noise and bopping your head to nonexistent beat
ManuelHung 3 years ago 3
Merda che bestie...! ;(
Fico anche il video
Grazie
martikezti 3 years ago
Oh My GOD! This is the greatest video ever now that its Widescreen! Yes Youtube, Applause is deserved.
I Love this video! More More!
seanlovesradiohead 3 years ago
I was there at the Roundhouse June 24th. Fing amazing. People stumbled out of the gig dazed.
sprayred 3 years ago
fucking genius.
sirbardcat 3 years ago
Pretentious Bollocks.
geoffwode1 3 years ago 3
I'm a HUGE MBV fan but have always thought that the "holocaust" is just stupid - it's beneath them - just childish.
Onanation 3 years ago
I think the holocaust is just their way of saying "elvis has left the building".
lakeviewviking 3 years ago
kevin shields said the point of it was to make the audience dizzy, unaware of time etc like a drug experience - the sound of it is irrelevant.
mlammin 3 years ago 4
oh it worked with me!
jesus, i totally ignored the advice of wearing ear plugs... i wish i did now! :|
but yeh that was the only time i watched MBV, it was amazing, i was there on the last night at the Roundhouse.
next time, i shall take earplugs! :D i hope to see them soon again :D
hope they play some stuff from Ecstasy and Wine, like Never Say Goodbye and I Don't Need You :)
panasonicyouth1985 2 years ago 2
baaaaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha
i want to see some ears bleed
no1000 3 years ago
Also, you see people bobbing their heads during the noise sections despite the fact that there's no discernible beat/rhythm. Why?
zuleautu 3 years ago 5
Because there enjoying it?
maximusv1 3 years ago 2
i was there at the LA show on October 1st and was standing literally right in front of the railing for this part. I can tell you as someone who has been there that this is VERY disorienting. imagine the db count vs. a jet engine taking off (not much diff) and the audience WASNT soaked in water to help absorb the energy from the speakers! after a while it is very much like a hallucination and you CAN in fact hear a repetitive drone buried in there.
jokershaveattacked 3 years ago 4
I was at the show at the Santa Monica civic on Thursday (10/2) and I have to say that I think the final twenty minutes are a form of crowd punishment. It has to be a big joke they're playing on us. When the crowd cheered at the end, Shields did a sort of double-take and looked disgusted by the crowd. Does anyone else think the whole bit is irony?
zuleautu 3 years ago
No, shoegaze has always contained noise elements ( I mean noise as a music genre) and always song of My Bloody Valentine often contained lots of noise and/or feedback.
I think this is just a part of their musical expression. And yes, I, and also a lot of people in the crowd, see it the same way.
verwustung88 3 years ago 4
i walked out last night and was like, "huh.. FUCK, AH FUCKK, I CAN'T HEAR MYSELF!"
you could feel it through you, like being in some kind of bombarding storm of sound. the ringing was disorienting. and I wish I would have worn the earplugs they were handing out. haha. I have a feeling my ears are gonna ring ling this for the next week.
bmx4cereal 3 years ago
that's strange, since all the band members are wearing ear plugs too, At the santa monica show in California, they provided free ear plugs, something i never saw before at a concert where the band asks you to wear them.
josephcintron1980 3 years ago
this isnt music. this is a sensation.
aznturd 3 years ago
Hell yeah it is
SoulAssassin69 3 years ago
I FELT that whole 15 minutes of feedback pummeling me like an air machine gun last night in Chicago. You literally FEEL the sound not emotionally but FEEL it on your skin. That was a sonic assault. I was blown away. I loved it. I tripped out a little. Amazing show. Loudest show I have ever seen. Best show I have ever seen. Best band EVER. Nothing else like it. They are on another level altogether.
SoulAssassin69 3 years ago
it was 22 minutes by my count. I was at Chicago show too :)
Chainedown 3 years ago
Recording mic says "no mas!" It's like the air is being torn apart.
kazzineaux01 3 years ago
Is anyone really concerned about others enough to care whether or not they wear earplugs? Seriously.
I'm seeing them Tuesday in SF, and if the need strikes to stick a finger in my ear and wiggle it around, I'm going to do it. Maybe someone can type about it later.
Eggwich 3 years ago
why the hell wouldn't you wear earplugs?
Lugak14 3 years ago 4
things like this seem best suited for someone at the show and wont have the same positive impact without the things that came before or after this feedback
i love mbv, but this video is retarded
ect0 3 years ago
coooool
greendayarigato 3 years ago
Amazing. Sonic torture. Its like driving past a car crash. You know it will be bad, but you can't help yourself. Anyway, MBV rule. I'm buying good earplugs.
Lugak14 3 years ago
saw them for the second time this year at the Electric Picnic festival in Ireland. they played this for 18mins :)
irishmusiccentral 3 years ago
ha ha, seeing these people loose their ears to MBV reminds me of those videos where people loose their ears to merzbow from japan.
i love MBV!!!
eatdogs 3 years ago 2
Haha! I was just going to mention Merzbow. This really reminds me of his music.
Anyways. Nice video. Wish I was there.
MonMccool123 3 years ago
he's not nearly as repetitive but i suppose there is a similarity sonically
parker276 3 years ago
I've seen both MBV and Merzbow, and MBV were definitely louder. I think Boris were louder than both, though (although they were playing a much smaller venue than MBV).
Dudley1970 3 years ago
ps. if its too loud youre too old.
brmc10 3 years ago
If you're they type of person who says "if it's too loud you're too old", your ears will be shot before long, you'll not be able to listen to MBV in a few years, and we will laugh at you!
Dudley1970 3 years ago 18
we are laughing at you now
brmc10 3 years ago
But soon you won't be able to hear yourself laughing at me! And then I shall have the last laugh. Ha!
Dudley1970 3 years ago
hehe youre right Dudley1970 i wear ear plugs all the time now, and a blindfold, and have now taken a vow of silence,starting now...no now, hang on....from now.
brmc10 3 years ago
obviously you haven't seen this performed live.
RobertDoosh 3 years ago
if you read my first post youl see i have seen them live, ive seen em a couple of times, i wouldnt have made the comment else.
brmc10 3 years ago
I saw them a couple of days ago in Toronto, brilliant!! Earplugs worked great, every bit of music came through clearly. Result!!
Dudley1970 3 years ago
this was amazing, awsome live...stuff like this is what mbv live are about, if you dont like it dont go, i could have listened to another hour of this and i was down the front without earplugs..
brmc10 3 years ago
haha right on! fuck the earplugs. I was front row center at the Kool Haus in Toronto and I didn't wear the earplugs either and my ears are fine. I suspect the decibel levels have been exaggerated.
purotine 3 years ago
they are amazing. MBV is literally the only band in the world that can get away with doing this. i'm sure this lasted longer in manchester, but i couldn't really sense time to be honest. also, taking your earplugs out in the middle of it to see what it's like is a bad idea.
hadoukenyourface 3 years ago
I'm a huge fan of MBV - Loveless is the greatest album of all time but I don't understand why they do this - maybe in 1990 when they were kids it was funny - but now? It just seems childish - they're better than this.
Onanation 3 years ago
There is in fact a point to the Holocaust section, but if you can't grasp the fact that it isn't performed for "humor", I doubt you'll get why they play it.
HighSchoolReality 3 years ago
Explain it to me you oracle you.
Humour is the best possible interpretation - all other explanations reflect worse upon them. Shields is a genius but I suppose Gandhi drank his own piss and Einstein screwed around on his wife - no one is perfect.
Onanation 3 years ago
umm...what is this? Indie or not,I dont see any skill behind this "music"
dzsihadjoe 3 years ago
This one's kinda of a bad example. Anyway, if you're looking for skill, go to shredding or speed metal or neoclassical, this isn't for you.
Asillyhobo 3 years ago
I like how the mic is completely destroyed by their sound. Can't pick up anything. God, I hope I'll get to go to one of their shows. I was three when Loveless came out, so this is the first chance in my life to see them live. Music these days is either too boring and tame or too generically 'rockin'. These guys have been around, what, 24 years? And yet they still sound new.
TauHecht 3 years ago
I can make it to Chicago show... but it's sold out now.
Fuccccckkkkkkkkk
Hope u lucky folks have a good time. And please contact Chainedown if anyone wants to sell the ticket or something.
Chainedown 3 years ago
GO ON EBAY!!
thats how i managed to get a tickett
there was a bunch of people sellin ticjts for REALLY cheap outside the apollo too
its never too late!!"
rayolacer 3 years ago
I was at the London gig on the twenty-fourth, the noisey "middle eight" was about 22 minutes long.
Then I was at the second Glasgow date, and it was seriously about 25-30 minutes long.
It was aural perfection, I was tempted to shed a tear of joy.
Loved every minute of the gig, hope I get to see them again. I was too young first time round, so a second chance is excellent.
You Made Me Realise!
<3
gregorisgod 3 years ago
you mean to tell me you still had your hearing after the first one! can't wait to see them stateside.
munkeybrains 3 years ago
By the way if anyone wants to capture the My Bloody Valentine live experience I recommend that you travel to Stansted and lie down by the runway with a copy of Loveless on your Ipod, quarf a bottle and a half of Liebfraumilch and a fistful of Magic Mushrooms.
Jobs a good 'un.
relphydotcom 3 years ago
facts about MBV's Monday show: at one point, the sound measured 132db at the mixing desk - as loud as a jet engine at a distance of 100m. The sound techs had to wear ear defenders throughout, and the main sound engineer had to stand barefoot on a block of foam in order to stop his eyeballs vibrating in their sockets (!).
gypsyola 3 years ago 2
looooolllllllll
akis723 3 years ago
thanks for posting.
lots of the comments below show just how tame "indie" music has become. hopefully the MBV tour will raise the bar again and signal the end for bands like The (total lack of) Feeling.
perish the thought that some people went to the MBV gigs and actually came away having FELT something.
give me glorious noise/excitement/deafness over the mediocre "indie" Sub-Pap that pervades the scene at the moment.
one criticism - TOO QUIET!
fishingrhod 3 years ago 3
yes - having the Valentines back has blown away the cobwebs of tired indie complacency and reminded me of how fresh and exciting music can be! Perhaps too much has been made of the soundsstorm finale though- it has to be remembered that there were about 70 minutes of beautiful song craft before this happened and this worked best in the context of an amazing show
paulgreen5 3 years ago 2
This was amazing it Roskilde!!!
MarcusMarcussen 3 years ago
Just saw them at Roskilde.. Amazing concert! They did this for 20 minutes!
monkeypaww 3 years ago
Saw these first time around, they did about 20 minutes of feedback in Hamburg, probably a lot louder back then.
M245475SH 3 years ago
wow...I think thurton moore listen this feedback to relax!
masataka986 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
im trying to get into this band, ive downloaded some stuff but it sounds very airy like theres nothing to the music its just ambient shite. i like what they do, wretched feedback swirls and all that but gimme the verve anyday mccabe's a much better guitarist, and by that i dont mean technically, just for the soundscapes he creates all MBV songs sound the same, very formulaic and drab.
rugamuffin04 3 years ago
you quite clearly havent listened to all their material i understand what you mean by airy but its supposed to be like that plus its all about the music. mccabes a bit contrived for my liking uses far to many pedals
mrcat1990 3 years ago
he does use alot of pedals but if theres a sound in your head and you can only make it by adding another pedal to the collection then i say go for it! (i dont mean like radiohead style, thats just taking the piss) what i love about verve is that mccabe will always play the song a different way (he nearly made owen morris lose his marbles in northern soul sessions because he refused to repeat himself over and over, but after, he said mccabe is the most talented MUSICIAN he's ever worked with)
rugamuffin04 3 years ago
Kevin doesn't use lots of pedals, actually.
Frankpod 3 years ago
The Verve. A band for those who find the Stereophonics too left field and challenging.
billyfantastic 3 years ago
Yeh, I prefer bloke music an all. I need some riffs I can swagger to. :)
bunglebonce 3 years ago
That's what i would say about the Verve.
fuck3boom 3 years ago
hahaha that was a good joke, man.
no, seriously... MBV is not about noise but pop tunes. try the "you made me realize" EP. i bought it when it came out, and it's still to me the best EP ever made.
Gourbit 3 years ago
ew the verve
rayolacer 3 years ago
oh, it won't allow any more thumbs down that 8 :-(
paulgreen5 3 years ago
I was at the Manchester 2 night gig and it was so bloody loud that I left the local halfway through the set and stayed in the bar for the rest of the show. It was so loud that my ears almost bled. When that's said the performance was impeccable and the band tight and played very well but when concerts become so loud I get nothing out of it, except tinnitus! and that is what you get from a My Bloody Valentine concert!
pinheadsen 3 years ago
I don't care what anyone says, 35 minutes of feedback is going to damage your hearing, no matter how loud it is.
craccitijones 3 years ago 3
How can this not be loud. Supposedly it was 129db. A sound engineer would know that is above the threshhold of pain and can damage hearing.
alternative3d 3 years ago 3
23 minutes first night in glasgow didnt put fingers in me ears or use earplugs which may have been silly as 20 mins after gig couldnt hear a thing and now i everythings a bit funny. i found mogwai a louder live band but mogwai dont do it as long
mrcat1990 3 years ago
I was there and at both Manchester gigs. 2nd Mancheste night definitely about half an hour.
perpitbla5 3 years ago
LOL at those pussies with their fingers in their ears, what did they think they were going to see, The Pastels!?! I was at this gig and didn't think it was loud enough. Was only 15 minutes here though, I can only imagine that the Manchester 35 must have fucking mental.
fuzzmuff63 3 years ago
wooohooo I'm so crazeee! I can ruin my ears!!! FAIL
panfart 3 years ago
Seriously, the gig wasn't that loud. I've been a soundengineer for years and know what sort of loud will ruin yours ears, and that wasn't it.
fuzzmuff63 3 years ago
so what? what's your point?
panfart 3 years ago
ok, I'll say this once more for the hard of hearing (lol) - It wasn't loud, intense yes, but not so loud that ruins ears, that was my point. End of.
fuzzmuff63 3 years ago
You said you were a sound engineer for years, that's why your ears are probably fucked anyway. Who cares who's loudest? ..is this music or a world record attempt competition? next you'll be discussing who plays the fastest guitar solos..
panfart 3 years ago
it was around 35 in manchester!
rayolacer 3 years ago
oh yea and it went on for 30 minutes in Manchester! Brilliant!
photo60 3 years ago
Was at the Apollo on Sunday night. I've seen louder bands before - it was the *size* of the noise that was remarkable. Complete immersion. Only suffered a temporary loss of some of my hearing, even without plugs. What a night!
brownbess 3 years ago
total racket. i liked your video though. i posted a vid of this from the week before, 90 seconds of it.. it made me feel ill.
amyblueuk 3 years ago
As fantastic in Manchester on Saturday night as they were in Sheffield 20 years ago.
And earplugs are for fucking wimps.
mikeofdoom 3 years ago
I went to the Manchester show last night and god was it noisy!!! I've only just regained my hearing!!! It starts off good, then it gets noisy, then it becomes unbearable and then the noise starts rattling your body! I just stood, amazed thinking "God, how can they carry on doing this???". Ours went on for twenty minutes. It was an amazing experience though and I'd DEFINITELY go again! Just DON'T take those earplugs or your fingers out of your ears during the feedback!!!
chasingsara99 3 years ago
I bet they wear ear defenders while they are giving their fans tinnitus, they should be ashamed
ourkidjames 3 years ago 2
Wouldn't this be loud to the band members as well?. What kind of ear plugs would they use to be able to handle this kind of volume gig after gig..
alternative3d 3 years ago
saw them at the appolo in manchester last night and all i can say is nothing prepares you for that noise!! i heard all about them doing that in the past. It most of been for 20 to 30 minutes.......it was intense as i didnt have the earplugs, amazing band and i want to see them again =D
captaintrips85 3 years ago
I was blistering werent it, i can only imagine that that's what it's like to put your head inside the jet engine of a plane, I couldnt do anything but laugh. Fucking tops!
burnjim 3 years ago
yeah i did the same in the end,part of you just gives in to it and all you can do is laugh. laugh and pray for daylight =D
captaintrips85 3 years ago
Ha ha thats exactly what i thought, a jet engine!! Saw em both nights in the apollo, best gigs ever. I found the holocaust quite soothing after about 15 minutes!
photo60 3 years ago
genius. thanks for posting
taiwanbeer 3 years ago
I'll be bringing my industrial ear protectors when I see them in September in SF.....and I'll be proud to do that! :-)
RockbearSF 3 years ago
Loveless perhaps as great an album as there's been, but lets face it; that noise isn't music, & one isn't lacking in the requisite cool for saying as much.
myshkin 3 years ago
Favorited! :)
deadg00se 3 years ago
i don't think you really have to worry. the whole hurting your ears thing is worse than it sounds, it's not even like piercing feedback that just sends shivers down your spine is more of gut rumbling and shakes you. it's immense. and yeah, they only do this at the end, so leave if you want. soon is spectacular
canutewaves 3 years ago
16 minutes of white noise ART WANK, It was a ok gig ive seen better, But if kevin shields could suck his own cock then he would as it was a little bit self indulgent
pressgangers 3 years ago
Hey, if you want something more conventional I hear that Phil Collins is touring again soon. Nothing 'arty' or 'indulgent' with the Phil-meister; you'd love it.
nottingham1865 3 years ago 3
Thanks for that you made me howl with laughter, You have made a very unconventional Friday into a Friday full of Mirth
pressgangers 3 years ago
A mate and I saw them on Tuesday night and it was great. Belinda was on our side and she made two thirty somethings very happy. Bless her she came on like shed just dropped off the kids and popped round for a couple of hours to ruin everyones hearing. Yeah they do You made me realise and the 15 minutes apocalypse and I remember it well from the 90s. Had a bit of ear knack on Wednesday. Top top top! Now hoping Slowdive get back together with Rachel Goswell. Ooooh errr.
irmteale 3 years ago
i want to see them so badly but this part scares me. i've a bit of a heart condition. do the earplugs help at all???
floothe 3 years ago
Earplugs do help a little.
But they don't do this until the end, so you could actually leave as soon as they start the sonic meltdown.
iammadedeath 3 years ago
ear plugs can work great, but look into getting some hifi ear plugs, and for something like this you would probably want to consider at least 12db reduction. ;)
uncajesse 3 years ago
doesn't get much more pointless than that...
shoognspice 3 years ago
LOL
Girl @ 1:34
kigglekilla 3 years ago
LOL. Is the audio a good representation of what yours actually heard at this point?
allenu 3 years ago
Pretty much, allenu.
marinade 3 years ago
Actually, it's not even close.
The sheer volume and spread of frequencies is clipping the input mic of whatever Marinade was using, so the sheer sense of being inside a jet engine is pretty much lost.
I've heard that they've done it for 40 minutes in the past, but I think they stopped after 25 when I saw them on Sunday.
iammadedeath 3 years ago
Yeah, I remember reading about their shows in the past. I'm impressed they decided to continue with this practice. :)
allenu 3 years ago
and?
gelazso 3 years ago
God knows I love the Valentines, but I'd rather like a shortened version of "Realise" and more songs instead... But even this won't deter me from going to their Paris gig next month.
julosx 3 years ago
nasty shit
TomaCukor 3 years ago
thanks for posting.I was there the 2 nights after this-emotionally and aurally damaged.
gypsyola 3 years ago
Lucky!
drdread70 3 years ago