REV: 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." All throughout the Bible the word Beast is always speaking of a Nation NOT an individual person. Which nation seemed dead, gone forever & "came to life again" & now the world wonders after this beast nation . . ISRAEL
@we0905 Jeremiah 35:17 "Therefore, this is what the LORD God Almighty, the God of Israel, says: 'Listen! I am going to bring on Judah and on everyone living in Jerusalem every disaster I pronounced against them. I spoke to them, but they did not listen; I called to them, but they did not answer.'"
JER 3:8 divorce of Israel IS 50:1 bill of divorcement HO 2:2 Israel not my wife
(1) Blessings and cursings Lev. 26:1-39 Deut. 28:1-68 (2) Privileges and penalties
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.” — Father John Sheehan, S.J.
I wasn't happy with Republican Candidates. Then I learned it's the neoCons I truly disliked. What is a Neo-Con(servative)? Are you one? /watch?v=lAl5JhMQ-8s
The United States hasn't won a war since World War II. I cry for the day that Christians bought into the Republican/Democrat neo-conservative approach to the world. Christians demanding war is quite ironic, don't you think?
When the Ottoman Empire existed, up until the end of WWI, the middle east was quite peaceful. Following WWI, the empire broke apart and was fractured by the League of Nations. It was then, after WWII, when Israel was established, that gas was thrown on the cinders resulting in the firestorm in Palestine. Were Israel never established, then the Middle East would just be built up of multiple countries like Europe, but probably never resurrect the Ottoman rule.
"If Christians refuse to live a life of inferiority, then this signals their rebellion and the unavoidable necessity of Jewish warfare against their very presence."
[Cf. Mordechai Nisan, Kivunim (official publication of the World Zionist Organization), August, 1984, pp. 151-156].
"Goyim (gentiles) were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel"
Ever get tired of hearing that all this contention is the fault of this kind of Jew and not that kind of Jew? No one says anything about the Jewish Talmud while there are hundreds of videos about the Koran. Jews are quick to say it's an old book that no longer matters; like the Christian Bible was put together last week. Jews start one war after another for profit that Christians pay for and fight out of stupidity.
It seems Christians United is being used to advance a clash of civilizations against Islam to start . It's dangerous when you have those who are anxious for the second coming as they go along with creating the conditions for armageddon.
revelation 17v17.... peoples thoughts and feelings about religion are ripe for 'international community' outlawing organised religion. false flag er i mean events in norway only add to religious hatred reaching tipping point.
he is not exposing anything ..but showing off..and to attack today Christians is the easiest thing to do..its safe and gives you some sort of ora of a fighter...in the reality it is safe..
as a Jew myself --I see him through..he is a coward
@Kbrt111 What do you say to the argument that the Christian support for Israel is based on self interest, i.e., prophecy ("End of Days") fulfillment. From what I understand, this prophecy would have all the Jews destroyed or converted. That does not sound like something I would support as a Jew? Do you think he is a "self-Hating Jew"? That is a pretty typical label for Jews whom are critical of Israel.
You posted:” the Christian support for Israel is based on self interest,” –it does not really matter , supporting Israel is the right thing to do (too long to go into why) , I am sure some Christians support Israel strictly because of belief in Rupture, and I am sure many others –because it’s the right thing to do for historical , legal moral and yes, religious reasons.
@Kbrt111 If Israel ended the occupation and illegal settlements, I would be the first one to support Israel. I believe the international community would do the same. Everyone believes that Israel does not want peace because of the continued settlement expansion. Most Christians wholeheartedly believe that the entire land from the Jordan river to the sea was given to the Jews. With that as a basic belief, they fully support the occupation and illegal settlements. Just check their websites.
First , I will answer to your previous post. As far as belief in Rupture and End of Days – where as I understand , as you do, all the Jews will be either destroyed or converted --as a Jewish Zionist, I don’t see any issues with a Christian holding that belief neither with the belief itself,
and as result, don’t see any contradiction in appreciating the support of such Christians for the Jewish State .and I am not saying that because of the convenience in such support and desire for it. No.
The major reason here for me holding such position is that the belief in rupture is basically innocent (definitely –neutral ) as far as that Christian is . Its like believing that after the day the night will come.
Since , a Believer in Rupture does not say :” .. when Jesus will come second time , I am going to kill you, neither does he say :” when Jesus will come, he will order us to kill you and we will do it” ..NO.
What such Christian says:” When Jesus will come the second time , the Lord will save only those who believed in Jesus Chris as his/her personal Savior –the rest –will vanish. ..In order for that to happen all Jews of the World should be in Israel” or something like that..
The thing is if Jesus will come and Lord will tell me die—I I will kill myself myself—no problem if Lord tells me –die, I will die.
Now, look at the difference on what Quran and Mohamed instructs Muslims to do. The verse says : The Judgment day will not come till the day , Muslims will exterminate ALL the Jews. It will be the day when Trees and Stones will speak to Muslims , here is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him” Not Allah will be doing the killing , but Muslims themselves.
And notice the universal call for murder, and call for murder of all Jewish people—full extermination.. nice , isn’t ?
And by the way –that call is embedded into the Hamas Covenant , and Arabs in mass, had voted for Hamas, basically voting for extermination of Jewish people –nice touch in the 21 st century we have so called political organization with the goal of genocide and we have all kind of Europeans calling on Israel to negotiate with Hamas.
The view of an Evangelical Christian of a Jewish person is that the Jewish fellow is mistaken , making a mistake or is wrong.but not bad (although some so called Christian believe Jews are bad and evil)
Theologically speaking (not as a person to person ) a son or a younger brother (a Christian) tells his father or older brother (a religious Jew) -- you are mistaken . The father or older brother in turn says—my younger fellow , I am not mistaken , you don’t know, and we can argue about it, but we are not going to fight about it, let future show it.
Again, notice the difference in Quran : “ Jews are the most wretched and are the most tenacious enemies of Islam”—personally I really love this Islamic verse. If evil (which Islam is from the point of view of individual rights ) thinks we Jews are evil –then we definitely doing something right , and I am very proud to be a Jew in such case.
And notice again , the universal call for thinking of Jews as bad and wretched.
In my view , the reason such fundamental differences is the simple fact that Christianity –with all its periods of evil acts in its history –is at the core a spiritual religion , that is interested in the relationship of a believer with his Creator. Islam , at its core—is a power seeking ideology , using the idea of God to get there , and is not spiritual faith.
@Kbrt111 Thank you for taking the time to school me on religious beliefs...I need it, because I am also atheist. I agree that the Islamic faith is troubling to say the least. Have these beliefs always been in their scripture or do the have a first and second testament like the Christians? I hear what your saying about your willingness to accept the support, but I am just not sure that I would be. I would feel like it was phony and even sinister to a certain degree.
Just to note --I did not school you, definitely that was not my intention. , I have expressed my views or how I see it.
I am sure that some of Christian support for the state of Israel –could be described as phony and you right, even sinister, and some might even hate Jews , and still support Israel. But , overall , its not phony.
One would have to discuss the core of Christianity in order to understand that Christians , if they are truly Christians, have no choice but to be not bad citizens of this World. Of course , many so called Christians have committed a lot of evil acts especially in the past history, but Christianty is not evil, opposite and I could prove it, but its too long to go into it.
do not share your view of George Bush..and I think you are damaging your credibility by comparing him to Hitler..but of course its your business. Just in my opinion till this statement ---all your points were valid .I dont agree with them either , and I would and am arguing against them , but I can see how a reasonable person , without malice in his heart and prejudice --taking such position.
@Kbrt111 My comparison of George Bush is quite basic...a Christian who is responsible for over 1 million deaths, which include over 100,000 civilians in Iraq. Done under the pre-text that they had WMD's, which we all know now was completely false. His arrogance after the truth was revealed, showed him to be a very evil man. I make no apologies for this comparison, but respect your objection.
Yours and million of other people's views about Bush let say—well, again , its easy what you have done—threw accusation (based ,I would say, not on the total truth but with some points, even valid ones ) ,and for me to go to defend Bush its not so easy (although I want to defend him , because you not totally right as I see it), however the biggest obstacle for me in defending him is that I believe he was wrong as well
@steute2011 In my view they (his group of people ) were not truthful with the World and American people to begin with , but they thought they didn’t need to --to tell their real core motivation for the War, which at this stage in history they could not reveal anyway ( and I can assure its not oil, at least oil was not the prime one) ,
and in addition –to their pleasant surprise they thought that Fate had given them a great opportunity to attack Iraq stating that we will be going after a dictator with WMDs . I believe they truthfully believed there were WMDs, and they were—it means nothing that he had no stockpiles, he had expertise. But that is not a point here . They did lie , in not disclosing their truthful motives , and here we come to the core issue
How you view of so called “Truth”—since there is Truth –it stands there alone and then there are our views of events , which we color by ourselves , some of us more some of us less and possibly some –do achieve Truth.
I understand you a bit joking .. It s ok of course..the whole thing should be entertaining..I am not pursuing here to change your mind or your positions..I believe overall that lines are drawn, what is important to me --is the strength of conviction supporters of Israel , Jewish and Non-Jewish , have. I post for them. Especially here, with this Max Blumenthal and people like him in the videos. They are a special bread, and need to be confronted.
@Kbrt111 Given your position of acceptance for the support of Israel regardless of motivation, I assume it is of the utmost importance to not only retain the existing support, but also to garner new support? With that in mind, would it not be wise to in fact attempt to win over or change minds, since perhaps some people (including myself) may be misguided in their current opinions? I realize this takes immense effort and patience, but given the stated goal, would it be worth it?
as far as convincing peope --yes and no. first , one has to be completely convinced that he is on the right side not because he was born into it ,but because its the right cause. Overall I dont believe in tribalism , yes--you can feel a bit warm and fuzzy at some moments , but overall its irrelevant to me. The world is progressing , and moving fast and is getting smaller and smaller. A lot of people do not like it -- and maybe its unfair to some --tough luck.
Occupation --totally legal. Do not want to be occupied ? do not start wars. Once lost --do not expect to get it back if you are keep planning ( as Arabs do) to destroy Israel . One does not return the knife to a murderer who just tried to kill you and planning the same , just whining here –please make it easier for me to kill you.
@Kbrt111 I am going to assume this is your opinion and not based on any legal argument. As we both know, these territories have been deemed occupied by the international community and it's judicial bodies (UN and ICJ). I think to say all Arabs want to destroy Israel is a stretch and goes against a very basic concept that we should not label an entire group of people for the actions of some. It would be like saying that all Zionists are terrorists because of what Irgun did in 1946.
@Kbrt111 The 1967 war, which brought about the occupation of West Bank, Golan Heights and Gaza, was not stated by the Arabs. This war started when Israel attacked Egypt, in what they called a preemptive strike. This is not accepted as an act of self defense in the realm of international law, because it assumes an eminent attack by the other side without proof. This was clearly the case and thus there was no aggressor named in resolution 242 following the war.
So I guess, when three enemy nations gather and make an agreement to attack Israel , then one removes the buffer UN troops , closes the navigation to Israel, and 200 mln Arabs scream in joy of exptected by them slaughter of 2 mln Jewish people in a country with 9 miles width --is not a case enough to defend itself?
@Kbrt111 A number of senior Israeli military and political figures have subsequently admitted that Israel was not faced with a genuine threat of attack, and instead, deliberately chose war. Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli army chief of staff during the war, later stated: "I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent into Sinai on May 14 would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. Cont>>>>
@Kbrt111 He knew it and we knew it." General Mattityahu Peled, a member of Israel's general staff in 1967, opined that "the thesis according to which the danger of genocide weighed on us in June 1967, and that Israel struggled for its physical existence is only a bluff born and developed after the war." Menachem Begin, not yet prime minister but a member of the Israeli cabinet, allowed that: Cont>>>
@Kbrt111 "The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him."
This is why preemptive strikes are not considered defensive by most scholars. Were there provocative actions by Egypt? Sure, absolutely, but no act or declaration of war.
I have read those reports too , Arabs did not have enough to wipe Israel off in 1967..Israel knew that , but in the days prior to the war--nobody wanted to bet the life of Israel on that ASSUMPTION..You lightely excusing Arab behavior..Well, as you can see Arabs like to play with fire...just do not like the consequences and the laws of nature---you play with fire, you get burned.
You have just done what a lousy part of this World –does. You have placed impossible rules on the Jewish nation to obey by, the rules which nobody else in this World ever followed or was expected to follow. Yet, in your mind –you totally dismissed the real realities on the ground –and coming here with the point that Israel struck first –therefore its aggressor. ..
@Kbrt111 I do not agree that the "lousy" part of the world, which happens to be most of the world and myself expecting Israel to respect for international law / norms is an impossible one. When Iraq invaded and occupied Kuwait, the UN and the US immediately took action. Just as an example. There is no denying whether Israel struck first, however I never said nor was it ever officially determined to be that Israel was the aggressor.
you wrong..Occupied are territories not THE territories..You got to cut me some slack on my form of postings..I tried to cover a lot of territory. Israel where it is --legally ( can prove it) historically (can prove it) even morally , not to mention religiously
@Kbrt111 I will grant you all 3 based on Israels interpretation of the history, perceived needs and international law. However, based on the interpretations of the international community and judicial bodies, I completely disagree.
@Kbrt111 UN resolution 242, but Per Lord Caradon, the chief author of the resolution: It was from occupied territories that the Resolution called for withdrawal. The test was which territories were occupied. That was a test not possibly subject to any doubt. As a matter of plain fact East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, the Golan and Sinai were occupied in the 1967 conflict. It was on withdrawal from occupied territories that the Resolution insisted.
"...withdrawal from occupied territories that the Resolution insisted."..there were obligations to Arabs first to fullfill..you omitting those all the time..
I understand you and not saying that you are not without valid points. However, the format here is not geared to get into all details and neither you or me –would want to do that on YouTube.
@steute2011 To summarize it –I see it this way: , SOME innocent Arabs suffered as the result of creation of Israel. When wheels of history turn –some innocent people will always get a short end of things.
@steute2011 But did Arabs had suffered as a whole people ? as a culture ? Absolutely not. The pain of those Arab individuals , who had suffered, could have been addressed and resolved, but that is not what Arabs are after. And culprit here in this conflict , is their culture , their view of the world of themselves and of Jewish people. At the end the final culprit here is Islam. I
@Kbrt111 If you concede that the West Bank is occupied, then you must concede that the settlements are therefore illegal? I will in turn concede that the occupation is not illegal and justified by defensive requirements.
the settlements --are illegal..but , there is but. considering the position Arab masses take and their overall attitude--they are not without the base, yet legally they (settlements ) are illegal..The big one here is that we are talking here about point C , when points A and B need to be addressed. Another thing there will be a legitimate loss of land to Arabs --consequences of wars and warmongering..
settlements? Arabs had plenty of opportunities for peace--especially right after 1967 --they with a great joy and hate --stated 3 nos!! well , there will be consequences . Settlements -#1 reason-security, #2 --the land historically is Jewish ( but #1 is the one). Oh Arabs lived there? well, Jews had lived in lands that Arabs kicked them out for 2500 years - a whole 1000 years longer before Arabs had conquered them. Somehow it did not matter to Arabs--they kicked jews out anyways.
@Kbrt111 What were the 3 no's from the Arabs after 1967? #1 -Settlements absolutely do not provide security, but rather is a blatant antagonist to hate and international condemnation. #2- While neither of us can argue to the validity of the exile of Jews from that land 2000 years ago, it is irrelevant today since the opinions one gives now can only be based on the verifiable evidence, which clearly indicates that when the Mandate for Palestine was designated there was a majority Arabs there. >
@Kbrt111 I disagree. There has been 30 yrs of peace with Egypt since they gave back the Sinai and signed the peace treaty, same with Jordan. So on what grounds do you use to make this argument? I would like to ask you this...As a Zionist, I would assume your first and foremost concern would be the continued existence of Israel? Given that assumed fact, would it not be wise to advocate for a two state solution, rather occupation? Do you not think that the continued occupation jeopardizes Israel?
just to finish the point about the magnitude of the conflict..each year , according to UN, since WWII 2.5 mln of people have died in conflicts ..right now, as we speak, there is one nasty little war --that is going on for 4 years, and took almost 3 mln people..
two state solution would be nice, and could have been achieved a number of times, ---but its not going to end the conflict, just encourage the Musllim side further...Israel , unfortunitily can not but occupy ..Occupation ---of course jeopardizes Israel's existance, but giving it up at this juncture in history would just speed up Israel's destruction.
the things will get worst for Israel in the short run..Many nations will pressure it --to give in and will be breaking up or reducing their relationship with it.
Blumenthal is a genetic coward. He cannot accept that we , Jews, will kill and maim those who want to destroy Jewish people. We will kill children of our enemies as well, not because we want to or target them –because its unavoidable in the nature of conflicts we are involved. Our conflicts are not Falklands. We will do that , not because we want but because the world is the way its. We FINALLY , started to play by its (World’s) rules .
@Kbrt111 If I said I didn't find this statement disturbing, I would be less truthful. You sound a bit paranoid here. I do not think that the number of civilian deaths in Gaza would have been acceptable, no matter what country was responsible. When you say unavoidable, certainly some casualties of women & children is expected and even accepted. But when you have a total of 1400 killed and 400 are children, then any normal person would question what went wrong? White phosphorus in civilian areas?
@steute2011 The death of Arab children is not celebrated in Israel , death of Jewish children is a cause for celebration and candy give out in Arab lands. In any case , the death of civilians here is (as horrible as it sounds) –is a secondary . The first –is desire to destroy an independent Jewish existence in Israel> I am emphasizing word independent –because that’s where the problem for Muslim is.
1400 Arabs killed , 400 children? Agree..nothing to be happy about. Disproportionate ? How many American Civilians and children Germans killed during the WWII? Zero. How many German Civilians and German children the Americans killed in their bombing raids ? hundred of thousands. (I am using only USA here, there are plenty of others) You applying different standards for the Jewish State .
@Kbrt111 Absolutely not, as I stated in my George Bush comment, the US has committed far worst acts than Israel. I certainly deplore all acts against civilians, including those against the Israelis.
what I would really like you to understand from all our exchange , not that I am right or wrong, or you are right or wrong - but that you and me and billions of other people are talking here about a conflict which took less than 100 000 lives in 90 years of conflict --23 000 Israelis, 7600 Arabs that are called Palestinian, 40 000 Egyptian Arabs, 20 000 Siryan Arabs , and 10000 from Jordan , Lebanon and Iraq.
@steute2011 And many in the World screaming at us (they always had screamed at us , now just from an additional angle) —because they have one set of rules for themselves (which actually –no rules) and another one, very special one and achievable one —for Jews . . Such as Blumenthals are afraid to be disliked by more numerous and more loud mob..they are afraid to offend the enemies who want to kill us
In some sort of debate --I would have elaborated more..but here-- mostly statements..
@Kbrt111 Certainly there is a degree of hypocrisy when applying criticism of Israels actions, but I am an optimist and therefore believe it has more to do with what is expected from a modern democratic nation, as opposed to a third world fascist nation. Without doubt there is and has always been a palpable antisemitism worldwide, however we can not use that as an excuse for actions that clearly require some criticism.
.." it has more to do with what is expected from a modern democratic nation, as opposed to a third world fascist nation."...--there is no nation that faces anything close to the threats Israel faces.
Yet, the kinsmen of Israli enemies sit in the Israli parlament and walk freely with all rights in that small nation.
When USSR , the biggest enemy of Israel , fought Germany, all Russian germans , and other nations that showed any support or were presumed that they will show support for Germans --were shipped out to Gulags .Yet ,Russia was not a tiny country surrounded by billions of Germans..Not to mention what our democracies did when they were in the wars. Same rules please .
Basically with Christianity its opposite of Islam. Christianity --at the core , is not evil , but many Christians done evil acts. islam --at the core is evil, but many Muslims are not.
I will get back to you about "self-hating Jews" and settlements..but to finish about religions etc--I believe that Ideologies can be evil, people --are not
Israel will block a Palestine state with Endless Wars, Propaganda, AIPAC, Endless New Settlements, Israel DOES NOT WANT PEACE.
Israel is talking about getting America to divide the country of Jordan in half and sending all Palestinians to Jordan (In Gaza Concentration Camp & West Bank Concentration Camp to Jordan). WTF?
Apartheid Nazi Genocidal Israel will NOT rest until they get their "Greater Israel" stretching from Euphrates in Iraq to the Nile.
All Sweets, Fresh Meat, Cows, Chickens, Salt, Sugar, Fruits, Nuts, Fishing rods, Fishing equipment, All Newspapers, Chocolate, Spices, Wood, Cement, Fabric for clothing, Containers, School supplies, Paper, Technology, Computers, Heaters, Cement, Tar, Plaster, Iron, Sewing machines, Toys, Seeds, Farming equipment, How many of you can live WITHOUT ALL items above? Fascist Genocidal Israel are NAZIS...
Boycott Oil, Boycott Banks, Boycott Israel, Boycott Everything Enriching Wall-Street, End Needless Consumerism, Boycott anything US Gov or Globalists Promote, Track & Cut the Flow Money going to and from Corporations to Government & Politicians, Protest in the Streets 24/7, Organize, Teach and UNITE against all Sickness that Exists, Tell All the Truths, Expose Everything & Everyone that needs to be Exposed, Get Police & Army on your side, Show them Real Patriotism & Love for Country/Constitution
We see all the INSANE CRAP around us, and we just take it lying down, we just let the Fuckers (Neocons, Zionists, Politicians, Corporations, War-Profiteers, Courts, Cops, Bankers, Wall-Street, Israel, Globalists, AIPAC, CFR, Bilderberg, Pentagon, Congress, Federal Reserve, Rothschild, Corporate Media, CEOs, Greed, Fascists, Religious Extremists, Lobbyists, Liars, Manipulators, Bullies, Power-Mad Dictators, Tyrants, Greed-Infested Fucks, Deceivers), we just let them Rape Us 24/7, & we do NOTHING.
All Zionist Christians & Jews care about is Saving Israel, personal greed, making sure Israel takes over everything from Euphrates River in Iraq to the Nile in Egypt (They call it "Greater Israel"), making sure Muslims & all people on Earth are oppressed, killed or converted, and then Armageddon will happen in Israel (that's why Christians & Jews don't give a Shit about Ending Wars, Saving Earth from Ruin, Poverty, Peace or Humanity's Future), they only care about making sure Armageddon happens.
And just who in the hell is this bit of news suppose to surprise? Here are the facts. I own two cars, a Piper Chieftain, a 40' Carver, and a Winnebago RV. I spend more on fuel a year than most hourly wage earners make. I do not give a damn how many of these fucking Muslims and Christians have to die so I can enjoy my toys. That's fair. Muslims get virgins and Christians get mansion after death. I'm taking my rewards now.
Jews are JEWS....... All the talk about zionist and non-zionist jews is just a subtle trick to divide and confuse the misinformed goyim........ Thankfully, it ain't working too well..........
Bush........ Petraeus.. Clapper.. Panetta..... Cameron..... Sarkozy....... Harper........ All fuckin' crypto jews...... The ordinary people do not appreciate how pervasive the JEWS are........ There are far more Jews than you realise...... Obama's cheap mama was a kike too........ Now you know how a no-name guy became the president.......... He is one of their own........... Jews are the eternal trojan horse of civilization..............
She said policy and politics. It should be "Prophecy and Politics" which was the title of a book written by Ruth Halsell about this issue back in the Carter-Reagan years.
@SGTLima66 I was off a religion and im starting to see that. Religions have become labels and factions to seperate us. People today who believe in god do things in his name which are just disgusting. Religion has become justification for stupid and fallacious thinking. A world without religion is paradise. Love eachother, see past these labels we give eachother. And realise we are all one people.
@MultiSamsoon Understanding god is even worst than religion because the outcome individual immorality is the same except that there's not even self-criticism that some religious person seems to have
@DforDIckhead2100 Why is she a whore? She is talking about real topics which other networks wont talk about due to being owned by the Jewish Zionists. You cant handle it?
@DforDIckhead2100 Well, here's a real christian! "Women are witches" right? It's up to the church to took the witch that born inside her... Props to you, at least you're a disgraceful christian with no shame of behave just like one
Hey RT America, what's this idea that it's OK for the government to collect taxes from Christians but Christians are not supposed to have a voice in the government. If you want to exclude Christians from the political process than don't collect taxes from them.
Fuck Israel, it's fake Ashkenazi Zionist Khazar"Jews", Islam, and Christian Zionist Freaks. "God's chosen people"? The Ashkenazi in Israel only practice "Judaism, these Zionist Khazars have no claim to Israel or to being Semitic. "Anti-Semitic" = First allow me to bullshit you into believing Ashkenazi are Semitic. Ashkenazi are nothing but Khazars who converted to "Judaism".
those so called "jews" among big people in america are actually moloch worshipers. they are not real jews which they persecute and kill (like in wwi n ii) they hide behind these names they're wolves inside and use israel to hypnotize people.
the First Amendment applied only to laws enacted by the Congress. However, starting with Gitlow v. New York, 268 U.S. 652 (1925), the Supreme Court has held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment applies the First Amendment to each state, including any local government.
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law “respecting an establishment of religion,” impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.Originally,
@axis4peace4 historically the Catholic emperor Philips 2 of spain persecuted the Jews to get their money. The Sefardi Jews fled Spain and found refuge in England and Holland where they laid the base of a religious split in Christianity, the protestant uprise against the Catholics. Catholics had their evil sides too but the alliance between protestants and jews lives up till today which shows of in the way the US always supports Israel as an obedient dog.
I wonder if they pass around a donation plate at the conference or they can brainwash only the laymen inside churches to pay the preachers' salaries? Check it out: I will preach the "good news" only if I get paid. Funny.
Judeo-Christian is like saying Satanic Christian. Those supposed Christians who is pro-Israel are going to have a rude awakening when Christ says "I do not know thee"
Some Of us Christians support jews burning in the lake of fire but oppose Zionist and israel .The New Jerusalem is not a physical place it comes out of heaven
Only the Anti Christ takes the physical throne! Its known as Sodom and Egypt
or whee our Lord was Crucified read the Bible dont listen to these jews
The Israeli establishment sees how tarded the american zealot christians are, so they're doing their best in milking every last bit of usefulness out of them.
lol, these so-called Christains support Isreal while Jewish groups are fighting to kill Christianity in all aspects of American life.... The Jewish bankers run Isreal and they are the ones backing this of course.... Religion is not all the same, read the Holy Bible and understand it and you will see its not.... GOD even told Isrealites you dont need a king, he will charge u taxes and kill your sons to further his cause in endless wars...lol sound familiar...Revelations?? guy you should read it
RELIGION= just another tool used to keep us thinking we are all different from each other. All religions claim to be peaceful but reality claims different.
RT has sold out to mainstream noisy shallow adverts! I don't watch videos that force adverts on me - I kept my subscription to Reuters cause they removed them after my comment. Its bad enough we have to deal with these stupid annoying pop up windows on the screen.
"The king the messiah will eventually arise and restore the kingship of the house of David to its former status, build the Temple and gather in the exiles of Israel."
Sorry it does not say in the book that you gather YOURSELVES and create your own state. Thieves.
"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda
Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents pointing to the American Task Force 373 (TF373) providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with “nuclear fissile material” and “biological agents," including a nuclear "dirty bomb."
U.S. 4-star General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran (2007 up to 2012)
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"Japan’s government, threatened with more HAARP attacks, pays 60 trillion yen to Feds"
Amen to that! As a former Christian Zionist I am glad to disassociate myself from it. First of all, most Christian Zionists are not aware of their tax dollars going to Israel. Second, most Christian Zionists are not even aware of Israel's "neo-Apartheid" ways towards its Palestinian neighbors.
For Christian Zionists supporting Israel is simply the "Biblical thing" to do. :P
amen to that! Though you are correct, their basic foundation for pro-Israelism is via the twisting of Biblical Scriptures :P I should have specified earlier :P
The theological position is that if you curse Israel you will be cursed and if you bless Israel you will be blessed. Who does the cursing and blessing? G-d! Gen 12-3. Judeo Christians do not do the cursing and blessing. Those who do not believe is the Christ, Jesus as John 3:16 says will perish. It is not we who say that but G-d himself. BTW the lake of fire is an eternal punishment for those who worship the 'beast' as well as the 'beast' himself. Any other questions just google them.
The theological position actually EVERYONE is as follows!
Gen 12:3 NO LONGER APPLIES TODAY as well as Jews having a right to something called Israel because
all OT law and prophecies were fulfiled by JESUS in Matt 5:17. Two types of circumcised Jews exist today according to Rom 2:28-29. Physical and Spiritual. The physical are jews who have not repented and accepted
Jesus and are all heading to HELL! The spiritual are genuine Christains who have. So today the real Jews
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ONE NEW MAN Movement from ONM215 Is a Zionist Christian Movement to unite all christians as one family under one god. Jesus Christ Yeshua
onm1872 3 weeks ago
It's ironic that Judaism and Islam rejects Christ as the Messiah.
Only Jesus can bring peace to Jerusalem.
I am proud to call myself a Christian Zionist.
I don't expect liberals or secular humanists to understand.
Read the Bible chapter-by-chapter, verse by verse.
And God bless Russia too!
AcePilot101 1 month ago
There will be no peace in the world as long as there are Jews
12shadal 2 months ago
Fooling the goyim.
CoQ10z 3 months ago
useful idiots
HilarityBribo 3 months ago
Seig Heil.
onewhopwns 4 months ago
Israel is as ancient g
MrPerfectlogic 4 months ago
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Search and read "Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers" by Pastor Chuck Baldwin
vechorik 5 months ago
REV: 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." All throughout the Bible the word Beast is always speaking of a Nation NOT an individual person. Which nation seemed dead, gone forever & "came to life again" & now the world wonders after this beast nation . . ISRAEL
gram914 5 months ago
@gram914 (addressing gram914 and not the video above)
Joe 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with Me, ... Palestine?
Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved
Exd 15:14 ...sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.
But of the name Israel, it is written that it came from God and that it is an eternal name. All readers of the Bible are fuller aware of that fact.
we0905 2 months ago
@we0905 Jeremiah 35:17 "Therefore, this is what the LORD God Almighty, the God of Israel, says: 'Listen! I am going to bring on Judah and on everyone living in Jerusalem every disaster I pronounced against them. I spoke to them, but they did not listen; I called to them, but they did not answer.'"
JER 3:8 divorce of Israel IS 50:1 bill of divorcement HO 2:2 Israel not my wife
(1) Blessings and cursings Lev. 26:1-39 Deut. 28:1-68 (2) Privileges and penalties
gram914 2 months ago
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.” — Father John Sheehan, S.J.
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I wasn't happy with Republican Candidates. Then I learned it's the neoCons I truly disliked. What is a Neo-Con(servative)? Are you one? /watch?v=lAl5JhMQ-8s
The United States hasn't won a war since World War II. I cry for the day that Christians bought into the Republican/Democrat neo-conservative approach to the world. Christians demanding war is quite ironic, don't you think?
vechorik 6 months ago
When the Ottoman Empire existed, up until the end of WWI, the middle east was quite peaceful. Following WWI, the empire broke apart and was fractured by the League of Nations. It was then, after WWII, when Israel was established, that gas was thrown on the cinders resulting in the firestorm in Palestine. Were Israel never established, then the Middle East would just be built up of multiple countries like Europe, but probably never resurrect the Ottoman rule.
DeusMalleus 6 months ago
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"If Christians refuse to live a life of inferiority, then this signals their rebellion and the unavoidable necessity of Jewish warfare against their very presence."
[Cf. Mordechai Nisan, Kivunim (official publication of the World Zionist Organization), August, 1984, pp. 151-156].
"Goyim (gentiles) were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel"
- Israeli Sephardic leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef.
SuperAntiZionist 7 months ago
@SuperAntiZionist Lovely
HowardAnga 1 month ago
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855842 7 months ago
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Ever get tired of hearing that all this contention is the fault of this kind of Jew and not that kind of Jew? No one says anything about the Jewish Talmud while there are hundreds of videos about the Koran. Jews are quick to say it's an old book that no longer matters; like the Christian Bible was put together last week. Jews start one war after another for profit that Christians pay for and fight out of stupidity.
BobbyWarrenMiller 7 months ago
It seems Christians United is being used to advance a clash of civilizations against Islam to start . It's dangerous when you have those who are anxious for the second coming as they go along with creating the conditions for armageddon.
radicalsquare 7 months ago
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LONG LIVE ISRAEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrViTopol 7 months ago
Only on RT. :P
Hitlerrrchan 7 months ago
This man is a true defender of the faith not a Kazarian Zionist Jew.
TheEverLearning 7 months ago
revelation 17v17.... peoples thoughts and feelings about religion are ripe for 'international community' outlawing organised religion. false flag er i mean events in norway only add to religious hatred reaching tipping point.
stewtrek 7 months ago
Max Blumenthal is a genetic coward.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 Exposing frauds is pretty cowardly!!
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
he is not exposing anything ..but showing off..and to attack today Christians is the easiest thing to do..its safe and gives you some sort of ora of a fighter...in the reality it is safe..
as a Jew myself --I see him through..he is a coward
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 What do you say to the argument that the Christian support for Israel is based on self interest, i.e., prophecy ("End of Days") fulfillment. From what I understand, this prophecy would have all the Jews destroyed or converted. That does not sound like something I would support as a Jew? Do you think he is a "self-Hating Jew"? That is a pretty typical label for Jews whom are critical of Israel.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
You posted:” the Christian support for Israel is based on self interest,” –it does not really matter , supporting Israel is the right thing to do (too long to go into why) , I am sure some Christians support Israel strictly because of belief in Rupture, and I am sure many others –because it’s the right thing to do for historical , legal moral and yes, religious reasons.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 If Israel ended the occupation and illegal settlements, I would be the first one to support Israel. I believe the international community would do the same. Everyone believes that Israel does not want peace because of the continued settlement expansion. Most Christians wholeheartedly believe that the entire land from the Jordan river to the sea was given to the Jews. With that as a basic belief, they fully support the occupation and illegal settlements. Just check their websites.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
First , I will answer to your previous post. As far as belief in Rupture and End of Days – where as I understand , as you do, all the Jews will be either destroyed or converted --as a Jewish Zionist, I don’t see any issues with a Christian holding that belief neither with the belief itself,
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
and as result, don’t see any contradiction in appreciating the support of such Christians for the Jewish State .and I am not saying that because of the convenience in such support and desire for it. No.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
The major reason here for me holding such position is that the belief in rupture is basically innocent (definitely –neutral ) as far as that Christian is . Its like believing that after the day the night will come.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
Since , a Believer in Rupture does not say :” .. when Jesus will come second time , I am going to kill you, neither does he say :” when Jesus will come, he will order us to kill you and we will do it” ..NO.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
What such Christian says:” When Jesus will come the second time , the Lord will save only those who believed in Jesus Chris as his/her personal Savior –the rest –will vanish. ..In order for that to happen all Jews of the World should be in Israel” or something like that..
The thing is if Jesus will come and Lord will tell me die—I I will kill myself myself—no problem if Lord tells me –die, I will die.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
Now, look at the difference on what Quran and Mohamed instructs Muslims to do. The verse says : The Judgment day will not come till the day , Muslims will exterminate ALL the Jews. It will be the day when Trees and Stones will speak to Muslims , here is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him” Not Allah will be doing the killing , but Muslims themselves.
And notice the universal call for murder, and call for murder of all Jewish people—full extermination.. nice , isn’t ?
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
And by the way –that call is embedded into the Hamas Covenant , and Arabs in mass, had voted for Hamas, basically voting for extermination of Jewish people –nice touch in the 21 st century we have so called political organization with the goal of genocide and we have all kind of Europeans calling on Israel to negotiate with Hamas.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
The view of an Evangelical Christian of a Jewish person is that the Jewish fellow is mistaken , making a mistake or is wrong.but not bad (although some so called Christian believe Jews are bad and evil)
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
Theologically speaking (not as a person to person ) a son or a younger brother (a Christian) tells his father or older brother (a religious Jew) -- you are mistaken . The father or older brother in turn says—my younger fellow , I am not mistaken , you don’t know, and we can argue about it, but we are not going to fight about it, let future show it.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
Again, notice the difference in Quran : “ Jews are the most wretched and are the most tenacious enemies of Islam”—personally I really love this Islamic verse. If evil (which Islam is from the point of view of individual rights ) thinks we Jews are evil –then we definitely doing something right , and I am very proud to be a Jew in such case.
And notice again , the universal call for thinking of Jews as bad and wretched.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
And wont you agree that there is a huge moral difference ,in thinking of somebody as being wrong on one hand and in being evil on the other.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
In my view , the reason such fundamental differences is the simple fact that Christianity –with all its periods of evil acts in its history –is at the core a spiritual religion , that is interested in the relationship of a believer with his Creator. Islam , at its core—is a power seeking ideology , using the idea of God to get there , and is not spiritual faith.
Oh by the way—I am an atheist.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
I will answer to your other points later.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 Thank you for taking the time to school me on religious beliefs...I need it, because I am also atheist. I agree that the Islamic faith is troubling to say the least. Have these beliefs always been in their scripture or do the have a first and second testament like the Christians? I hear what your saying about your willingness to accept the support, but I am just not sure that I would be. I would feel like it was phony and even sinister to a certain degree.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
Just to note --I did not school you, definitely that was not my intention. , I have expressed my views or how I see it.
I am sure that some of Christian support for the state of Israel –could be described as phony and you right, even sinister, and some might even hate Jews , and still support Israel. But , overall , its not phony.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 My comment about schooling me was meant in a playful manner, since there's nothing wrong with learning...even at my age!
steute2011 7 months ago
One would have to discuss the core of Christianity in order to understand that Christians , if they are truly Christians, have no choice but to be not bad citizens of this World. Of course , many so called Christians have committed a lot of evil acts especially in the past history, but Christianty is not evil, opposite and I could prove it, but its too long to go into it.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 Wow powerful statement, but undeniably true, i.e., Hitler and his little brother (George W. Bush).
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
do not share your view of George Bush..and I think you are damaging your credibility by comparing him to Hitler..but of course its your business. Just in my opinion till this statement ---all your points were valid .I dont agree with them either , and I would and am arguing against them , but I can see how a reasonable person , without malice in his heart and prejudice --taking such position.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 My comparison of George Bush is quite basic...a Christian who is responsible for over 1 million deaths, which include over 100,000 civilians in Iraq. Done under the pre-text that they had WMD's, which we all know now was completely false. His arrogance after the truth was revealed, showed him to be a very evil man. I make no apologies for this comparison, but respect your objection.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
Yours and million of other people's views about Bush let say—well, again , its easy what you have done—threw accusation (based ,I would say, not on the total truth but with some points, even valid ones ) ,and for me to go to defend Bush its not so easy (although I want to defend him , because you not totally right as I see it), however the biggest obstacle for me in defending him is that I believe he was wrong as well
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011 In my view they (his group of people ) were not truthful with the World and American people to begin with , but they thought they didn’t need to --to tell their real core motivation for the War, which at this stage in history they could not reveal anyway ( and I can assure its not oil, at least oil was not the prime one) ,
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
and in addition –to their pleasant surprise they thought that Fate had given them a great opportunity to attack Iraq stating that we will be going after a dictator with WMDs . I believe they truthfully believed there were WMDs, and they were—it means nothing that he had no stockpiles, he had expertise. But that is not a point here . They did lie , in not disclosing their truthful motives , and here we come to the core issue
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
How you view of so called “Truth”—since there is Truth –it stands there alone and then there are our views of events , which we color by ourselves , some of us more some of us less and possibly some –do achieve Truth.
So what if one achieves truth and another not?
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
I understand you a bit joking .. It s ok of course..the whole thing should be entertaining..I am not pursuing here to change your mind or your positions..I believe overall that lines are drawn, what is important to me --is the strength of conviction supporters of Israel , Jewish and Non-Jewish , have. I post for them. Especially here, with this Max Blumenthal and people like him in the videos. They are a special bread, and need to be confronted.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 Given your position of acceptance for the support of Israel regardless of motivation, I assume it is of the utmost importance to not only retain the existing support, but also to garner new support? With that in mind, would it not be wise to in fact attempt to win over or change minds, since perhaps some people (including myself) may be misguided in their current opinions? I realize this takes immense effort and patience, but given the stated goal, would it be worth it?
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
as far as convincing peope --yes and no. first , one has to be completely convinced that he is on the right side not because he was born into it ,but because its the right cause. Overall I dont believe in tribalism , yes--you can feel a bit warm and fuzzy at some moments , but overall its irrelevant to me. The world is progressing , and moving fast and is getting smaller and smaller. A lot of people do not like it -- and maybe its unfair to some --tough luck.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
I am Zionist -because its the right thing to do.
Occupation --totally legal. Do not want to be occupied ? do not start wars. Once lost --do not expect to get it back if you are keep planning ( as Arabs do) to destroy Israel . One does not return the knife to a murderer who just tried to kill you and planning the same , just whining here –please make it easier for me to kill you.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 I am going to assume this is your opinion and not based on any legal argument. As we both know, these territories have been deemed occupied by the international community and it's judicial bodies (UN and ICJ). I think to say all Arabs want to destroy Israel is a stretch and goes against a very basic concept that we should not label an entire group of people for the actions of some. It would be like saying that all Zionists are terrorists because of what Irgun did in 1946.
steute2011 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 The 1967 war, which brought about the occupation of West Bank, Golan Heights and Gaza, was not stated by the Arabs. This war started when Israel attacked Egypt, in what they called a preemptive strike. This is not accepted as an act of self defense in the realm of international law, because it assumes an eminent attack by the other side without proof. This was clearly the case and thus there was no aggressor named in resolution 242 following the war.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
So I guess, when three enemy nations gather and make an agreement to attack Israel , then one removes the buffer UN troops , closes the navigation to Israel, and 200 mln Arabs scream in joy of exptected by them slaughter of 2 mln Jewish people in a country with 9 miles width --is not a case enough to defend itself?
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 A number of senior Israeli military and political figures have subsequently admitted that Israel was not faced with a genuine threat of attack, and instead, deliberately chose war. Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli army chief of staff during the war, later stated: "I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent into Sinai on May 14 would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. Cont>>>>
steute2011 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 He knew it and we knew it." General Mattityahu Peled, a member of Israel's general staff in 1967, opined that "the thesis according to which the danger of genocide weighed on us in June 1967, and that Israel struggled for its physical existence is only a bluff born and developed after the war." Menachem Begin, not yet prime minister but a member of the Israeli cabinet, allowed that: Cont>>>
steute2011 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 "The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him."
This is why preemptive strikes are not considered defensive by most scholars. Were there provocative actions by Egypt? Sure, absolutely, but no act or declaration of war.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
I have read those reports too , Arabs did not have enough to wipe Israel off in 1967..Israel knew that , but in the days prior to the war--nobody wanted to bet the life of Israel on that ASSUMPTION..You lightely excusing Arab behavior..Well, as you can see Arabs like to play with fire...just do not like the consequences and the laws of nature---you play with fire, you get burned.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
You have just done what a lousy part of this World –does. You have placed impossible rules on the Jewish nation to obey by, the rules which nobody else in this World ever followed or was expected to follow. Yet, in your mind –you totally dismissed the real realities on the ground –and coming here with the point that Israel struck first –therefore its aggressor. ..
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 I do not agree that the "lousy" part of the world, which happens to be most of the world and myself expecting Israel to respect for international law / norms is an impossible one. When Iraq invaded and occupied Kuwait, the UN and the US immediately took action. Just as an example. There is no denying whether Israel struck first, however I never said nor was it ever officially determined to be that Israel was the aggressor.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
you wrong..Occupied are territories not THE territories..You got to cut me some slack on my form of postings..I tried to cover a lot of territory. Israel where it is --legally ( can prove it) historically (can prove it) even morally , not to mention religiously
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 I will grant you all 3 based on Israels interpretation of the history, perceived needs and international law. However, based on the interpretations of the international community and judicial bodies, I completely disagree.
steute2011 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 UN resolution 242, but Per Lord Caradon, the chief author of the resolution: It was from occupied territories that the Resolution called for withdrawal. The test was which territories were occupied. That was a test not possibly subject to any doubt. As a matter of plain fact East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, the Golan and Sinai were occupied in the 1967 conflict. It was on withdrawal from occupied territories that the Resolution insisted.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
"...withdrawal from occupied territories that the Resolution insisted."..there were obligations to Arabs first to fullfill..you omitting those all the time..
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
I understand you and not saying that you are not without valid points. However, the format here is not geared to get into all details and neither you or me –would want to do that on YouTube.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011 The major legal point is –Arabs did not accepted the International Law to begin with .
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011 To summarize it –I see it this way: , SOME innocent Arabs suffered as the result of creation of Israel. When wheels of history turn –some innocent people will always get a short end of things.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011 But did Arabs had suffered as a whole people ? as a culture ? Absolutely not. The pain of those Arab individuals , who had suffered, could have been addressed and resolved, but that is not what Arabs are after. And culprit here in this conflict , is their culture , their view of the world of themselves and of Jewish people. At the end the final culprit here is Islam. I
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
made a typo:"....very special one and NOT achievable ones " rules —for Jews .
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
I am not arguing that the West Bank and Gollan Heights are not occupied. I am stating that the occupation is legal.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 If you concede that the West Bank is occupied, then you must concede that the settlements are therefore illegal? I will in turn concede that the occupation is not illegal and justified by defensive requirements.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
the settlements --are illegal..but , there is but. considering the position Arab masses take and their overall attitude--they are not without the base, yet legally they (settlements ) are illegal..The big one here is that we are talking here about point C , when points A and B need to be addressed. Another thing there will be a legitimate loss of land to Arabs --consequences of wars and warmongering..
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
settlements? Arabs had plenty of opportunities for peace--especially right after 1967 --they with a great joy and hate --stated 3 nos!! well , there will be consequences . Settlements -#1 reason-security, #2 --the land historically is Jewish ( but #1 is the one). Oh Arabs lived there? well, Jews had lived in lands that Arabs kicked them out for 2500 years - a whole 1000 years longer before Arabs had conquered them. Somehow it did not matter to Arabs--they kicked jews out anyways.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 What were the 3 no's from the Arabs after 1967? #1 -Settlements absolutely do not provide security, but rather is a blatant antagonist to hate and international condemnation. #2- While neither of us can argue to the validity of the exile of Jews from that land 2000 years ago, it is irrelevant today since the opinions one gives now can only be based on the verifiable evidence, which clearly indicates that when the Mandate for Palestine was designated there was a majority Arabs there. >
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
besides , for a genuine peace, the settlements can be removed. but there is no such thing as the geneuine pease with a Muslim nation. Check Egypt.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 I disagree. There has been 30 yrs of peace with Egypt since they gave back the Sinai and signed the peace treaty, same with Jordan. So on what grounds do you use to make this argument? I would like to ask you this...As a Zionist, I would assume your first and foremost concern would be the continued existence of Israel? Given that assumed fact, would it not be wise to advocate for a two state solution, rather occupation? Do you not think that the continued occupation jeopardizes Israel?
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
just to finish the point about the magnitude of the conflict..each year , according to UN, since WWII 2.5 mln of people have died in conflicts ..right now, as we speak, there is one nasty little war --that is going on for 4 years, and took almost 3 mln people..
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
two state solution would be nice, and could have been achieved a number of times, ---but its not going to end the conflict, just encourage the Musllim side further...Israel , unfortunitily can not but occupy ..Occupation ---of course jeopardizes Israel's existance, but giving it up at this juncture in history would just speed up Israel's destruction.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
the things will get worst for Israel in the short run..Many nations will pressure it --to give in and will be breaking up or reducing their relationship with it.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
Blumenthal is a genetic coward. He cannot accept that we , Jews, will kill and maim those who want to destroy Jewish people. We will kill children of our enemies as well, not because we want to or target them –because its unavoidable in the nature of conflicts we are involved. Our conflicts are not Falklands. We will do that , not because we want but because the world is the way its. We FINALLY , started to play by its (World’s) rules .
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 If I said I didn't find this statement disturbing, I would be less truthful. You sound a bit paranoid here. I do not think that the number of civilian deaths in Gaza would have been acceptable, no matter what country was responsible. When you say unavoidable, certainly some casualties of women & children is expected and even accepted. But when you have a total of 1400 killed and 400 are children, then any normal person would question what went wrong? White phosphorus in civilian areas?
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011 The death of Arab children is not celebrated in Israel , death of Jewish children is a cause for celebration and candy give out in Arab lands. In any case , the death of civilians here is (as horrible as it sounds) –is a secondary . The first –is desire to destroy an independent Jewish existence in Israel> I am emphasizing word independent –because that’s where the problem for Muslim is.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
1400 Arabs killed , 400 children? Agree..nothing to be happy about. Disproportionate ? How many American Civilians and children Germans killed during the WWII? Zero. How many German Civilians and German children the Americans killed in their bombing raids ? hundred of thousands. (I am using only USA here, there are plenty of others) You applying different standards for the Jewish State .
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 Absolutely not, as I stated in my George Bush comment, the US has committed far worst acts than Israel. I certainly deplore all acts against civilians, including those against the Israelis.
steute2011 7 months ago
@steute2011
what I would really like you to understand from all our exchange , not that I am right or wrong, or you are right or wrong - but that you and me and billions of other people are talking here about a conflict which took less than 100 000 lives in 90 years of conflict --23 000 Israelis, 7600 Arabs that are called Palestinian, 40 000 Egyptian Arabs, 20 000 Siryan Arabs , and 10000 from Jordan , Lebanon and Iraq.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011 And many in the World screaming at us (they always had screamed at us , now just from an additional angle) —because they have one set of rules for themselves (which actually –no rules) and another one, very special one and achievable one —for Jews . . Such as Blumenthals are afraid to be disliked by more numerous and more loud mob..they are afraid to offend the enemies who want to kill us
In some sort of debate --I would have elaborated more..but here-- mostly statements..
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@Kbrt111 Certainly there is a degree of hypocrisy when applying criticism of Israels actions, but I am an optimist and therefore believe it has more to do with what is expected from a modern democratic nation, as opposed to a third world fascist nation. Without doubt there is and has always been a palpable antisemitism worldwide, however we can not use that as an excuse for actions that clearly require some criticism.
steute2011 7 months ago
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@steute2011
.." it has more to do with what is expected from a modern democratic nation, as opposed to a third world fascist nation."...--there is no nation that faces anything close to the threats Israel faces.
Yet, the kinsmen of Israli enemies sit in the Israli parlament and walk freely with all rights in that small nation.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
@steute2011
When USSR , the biggest enemy of Israel , fought Germany, all Russian germans , and other nations that showed any support or were presumed that they will show support for Germans --were shipped out to Gulags .Yet ,Russia was not a tiny country surrounded by billions of Germans..Not to mention what our democracies did when they were in the wars. Same rules please .
Kbrt111 7 months ago
Basically with Christianity its opposite of Islam. Christianity --at the core , is not evil , but many Christians done evil acts. islam --at the core is evil, but many Muslims are not.
Kbrt111 7 months ago
I will get back to you about "self-hating Jews" and settlements..but to finish about religions etc--I believe that Ideologies can be evil, people --are not
Kbrt111 7 months ago
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Ex Fed Chairman, Alan Greenspan is Jew
Obama Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner is Jew
George Bush Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson is Jew
Stevie68000 7 months ago
foreignpolicyjournal. com/2010/08/23/four-reasons-why-americans-should-oppose-zionism
watch?v=Haj-CJOERTs
rt. com/Top_News/2010-08-20/ Israeli-US-media-manipulation.html
bollyn. com/who-really-controls-our-political-parties
sabbah. biz/mt/archives/2010/11/26/aipac-spying-fbi-looking-other-way
veteranstoday. com/2009/12/30/is-israel-controlling-phony-terror-news
scribd. com/doc/27366317/History-of-Rothschilds
takeourworldback. com/zionistcrimes.htm
nogw. com/warforisrael.html , criminalstate. com
halcyon0830 7 months ago
Fatah MUST declare STATEHOOD for Palestine NOW.
Israel will block a Palestine state with Endless Wars, Propaganda, AIPAC, Endless New Settlements, Israel DOES NOT WANT PEACE.
Israel is talking about getting America to divide the country of Jordan in half and sending all Palestinians to Jordan (In Gaza Concentration Camp & West Bank Concentration Camp to Jordan). WTF?
Apartheid Nazi Genocidal Israel will NOT rest until they get their "Greater Israel" stretching from Euphrates in Iraq to the Nile.
halcyon0830 7 months ago
Israel PROHIBITS these from Entering Palestine..
All Sweets, Fresh Meat, Cows, Chickens, Salt, Sugar, Fruits, Nuts, Fishing rods, Fishing equipment, All Newspapers, Chocolate, Spices, Wood, Cement, Fabric for clothing, Containers, School supplies, Paper, Technology, Computers, Heaters, Cement, Tar, Plaster, Iron, Sewing machines, Toys, Seeds, Farming equipment, How many of you can live WITHOUT ALL items above? Fascist Genocidal Israel are NAZIS...
politicalcorrection. org/fpmatters/201006040001
halcyon0830 7 months ago
Boycott Oil, Boycott Banks, Boycott Israel, Boycott Everything Enriching Wall-Street, End Needless Consumerism, Boycott anything US Gov or Globalists Promote, Track & Cut the Flow Money going to and from Corporations to Government & Politicians, Protest in the Streets 24/7, Organize, Teach and UNITE against all Sickness that Exists, Tell All the Truths, Expose Everything & Everyone that needs to be Exposed, Get Police & Army on your side, Show them Real Patriotism & Love for Country/Constitution
halcyon0830 7 months ago
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We see all the INSANE CRAP around us, and we just take it lying down, we just let the Fuckers (Neocons, Zionists, Politicians, Corporations, War-Profiteers, Courts, Cops, Bankers, Wall-Street, Israel, Globalists, AIPAC, CFR, Bilderberg, Pentagon, Congress, Federal Reserve, Rothschild, Corporate Media, CEOs, Greed, Fascists, Religious Extremists, Lobbyists, Liars, Manipulators, Bullies, Power-Mad Dictators, Tyrants, Greed-Infested Fucks, Deceivers), we just let them Rape Us 24/7, & we do NOTHING.
halcyon0830 7 months ago
All Zionist Christians & Jews care about is Saving Israel, personal greed, making sure Israel takes over everything from Euphrates River in Iraq to the Nile in Egypt (They call it "Greater Israel"), making sure Muslims & all people on Earth are oppressed, killed or converted, and then Armageddon will happen in Israel (that's why Christians & Jews don't give a Shit about Ending Wars, Saving Earth from Ruin, Poverty, Peace or Humanity's Future), they only care about making sure Armageddon happens.
halcyon0830 7 months ago
And just who in the hell is this bit of news suppose to surprise? Here are the facts. I own two cars, a Piper Chieftain, a 40' Carver, and a Winnebago RV. I spend more on fuel a year than most hourly wage earners make. I do not give a damn how many of these fucking Muslims and Christians have to die so I can enjoy my toys. That's fair. Muslims get virgins and Christians get mansion after death. I'm taking my rewards now.
BobbyWarrenMiller 7 months ago
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Jews pretending to be christians.......
purusahay 7 months ago
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Jews are JEWS....... All the talk about zionist and non-zionist jews is just a subtle trick to divide and confuse the misinformed goyim........ Thankfully, it ain't working too well..........
purusahay 7 months ago
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Bush........ Petraeus.. Clapper.. Panetta..... Cameron..... Sarkozy....... Harper........ All fuckin' crypto jews...... The ordinary people do not appreciate how pervasive the JEWS are........ There are far more Jews than you realise...... Obama's cheap mama was a kike too........ Now you know how a no-name guy became the president.......... He is one of their own........... Jews are the eternal trojan horse of civilization..............
purusahay 7 months ago
Israel news
*2 of 5 company's winners of GE's Ecomagination Challenge for better global energy transformation are Israelis.
Thousands from 150 countries attended the competition.
*Israel scientific breakthrough will help greatly reduce the need for using animals in laboratory testing.
*Israeli companies outsourcing IT work to Palestinians tops.
*Israel,EU space agency's sign agreement on developing micro- and nano-sized satellites,managing satellites from earth stations
MordechayAriely 7 months ago
RT why do you reptilian shappeshifting your guests eyes? He is not bashing Putin, Russia, he's bashing America, so why is that? I don't get it...
TurpentineRec 8 months ago
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Real enemy of Greece, Europe & America : Jew
Goldman Sachs CEO, Lyold Blankfein is Jew
IMF Deputy CEO, John Lisky is Jew
Ex IMF CEO, Dominic Strauss is Jew
World Bank CEO, Robert Zoellick is Jew
Ex World Bank CEO, James Woolfesen is Jew
Fed Chairman, Ben Bernanke is Jew
Ex Fed Chairman, Alan Greenspan is jew
Obama Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner is Jew
George Bush Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson is Jew
Stevie68000 8 months ago
She said policy and politics. It should be "Prophecy and Politics" which was the title of a book written by Ruth Halsell about this issue back in the Carter-Reagan years.
GoCo77 8 months ago
Organized RELIGION IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!
SGTLima66 8 months ago 5
@SGTLima66 I was off a religion and im starting to see that. Religions have become labels and factions to seperate us. People today who believe in god do things in his name which are just disgusting. Religion has become justification for stupid and fallacious thinking. A world without religion is paradise. Love eachother, see past these labels we give eachother. And realise we are all one people.
rza1m 7 months ago
CUFI is evil globalist created organisation.
MultiSamsoon 8 months ago
Corrupt administrations commit the crime and the citizens pay!
MultiSamsoon 8 months ago
Religion is the making of evil to hijack decision making of gullible. Understanding God does not require to submit to man created religion!
MultiSamsoon 8 months ago
@MultiSamsoon Understanding god is even worst than religion because the outcome individual immorality is the same except that there's not even self-criticism that some religious person seems to have
TurpentineRec 8 months ago
@TurpentineRec
Understand God is a logical process and will not lead to immorality.
Trying to understand God with the help of divisive religious group cannot lead to morality. There is inherent conflict of interest.
MultiSamsoon 7 months ago
The stupid RT whore should just stick to taking it up the ass for the kremlin
DforDIckhead2100 8 months ago
@DforDIckhead2100 Why is she a whore? She is talking about real topics which other networks wont talk about due to being owned by the Jewish Zionists. You cant handle it?
Chudakov77 8 months ago
@DforDIckhead2100 Well, here's a real christian! "Women are witches" right? It's up to the church to took the witch that born inside her... Props to you, at least you're a disgraceful christian with no shame of behave just like one
TurpentineRec 8 months ago
Hey RT America, what's this idea that it's OK for the government to collect taxes from Christians but Christians are not supposed to have a voice in the government. If you want to exclude Christians from the political process than don't collect taxes from them.
seanmPWH 8 months ago
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Fuck Israel, it's fake Ashkenazi Zionist Khazar"Jews", Islam, and Christian Zionist Freaks. "God's chosen people"? The Ashkenazi in Israel only practice "Judaism, these Zionist Khazars have no claim to Israel or to being Semitic. "Anti-Semitic" = First allow me to bullshit you into believing Ashkenazi are Semitic. Ashkenazi are nothing but Khazars who converted to "Judaism".
Born2Flesh 8 months ago 2
those so called "jews" among big people in america are actually moloch worshipers. they are not real jews which they persecute and kill (like in wwi n ii) they hide behind these names they're wolves inside and use israel to hypnotize people.
Zeduxearth 8 months ago
Can't have two masters...for Zionists it's always Israel first...
Tressco 8 months ago
the First Amendment applied only to laws enacted by the Congress. However, starting with Gitlow v. New York, 268 U.S. 652 (1925), the Supreme Court has held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment applies the First Amendment to each state, including any local government.
ogodjohn 8 months ago
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law “respecting an establishment of religion,” impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.Originally,
ogodjohn 8 months ago
@alexpetrunak
they control zionism, cia, biderberg group, club of rome and one of their goals was to setup
so called christain zionism for their agenda.
I have a featured video on my channel and a break down of hegg's lies using scriptures
axis4peace4 8 months ago
@alexpetrunak
actually it comes from the committee of 300 to be exact
axis4peace4 8 months ago
Everyone knows the ultimate ambition of calvinists is to be second hand jews.
envanje 8 months ago
@envanje
you mean catholics
axis4peace4 8 months ago
@axis4peace4 historically the Catholic emperor Philips 2 of spain persecuted the Jews to get their money. The Sefardi Jews fled Spain and found refuge in England and Holland where they laid the base of a religious split in Christianity, the protestant uprise against the Catholics. Catholics had their evil sides too but the alliance between protestants and jews lives up till today which shows of in the way the US always supports Israel as an obedient dog.
envanje 8 months ago
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Real enemy of Greece, Europe & America : Jew
Goldman Sachs CEO, Lyold Blankfein is Jew
IMF Deputy CEO, John Lisky is Jew
Ex IMF CEO, Dominic Strauss is Jew
World Bank CEO, Robert Zoellick is Jew
Ex World Bank CEO, James Woolfesen is Jew
Fed Chairman, Ben Bernanke is Jew
Ex Fed Chairman, Alan Greenspan is Jew
Obama Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner is Jew
George Bush Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson is Jew
Stevie68000 8 months ago
I wonder if they pass around a donation plate at the conference or they can brainwash only the laymen inside churches to pay the preachers' salaries? Check it out: I will preach the "good news" only if I get paid. Funny.
Rita1972 8 months ago
Judeo Christianity is an oxymoron
Forgiveness is Divine. An eye for an eye is Jewish.
onefodderunit 8 months ago
Judeo-Christian is like saying Satanic Christian. Those supposed Christians who is pro-Israel are going to have a rude awakening when Christ says "I do not know thee"
elucidative 8 months ago
Some Of us Christians support jews burning in the lake of fire but oppose Zionist and israel .The New Jerusalem is not a physical place it comes out of heaven
Only the Anti Christ takes the physical throne! Its known as Sodom and Egypt
or whee our Lord was Crucified read the Bible dont listen to these jews
Freespeech86 8 months ago
@Freespeech86 WE HAVE A PERFECT SOLUTION FOR THE GOYISH PROBLEM :-D
MrViTopol 8 months ago
The Israeli establishment sees how tarded the american zealot christians are, so they're doing their best in milking every last bit of usefulness out of them.
Tounushi 8 months ago
she is hot.
JAVEDRIZWANDX 8 months ago
lol, these so-called Christains support Isreal while Jewish groups are fighting to kill Christianity in all aspects of American life.... The Jewish bankers run Isreal and they are the ones backing this of course.... Religion is not all the same, read the Holy Bible and understand it and you will see its not.... GOD even told Isrealites you dont need a king, he will charge u taxes and kill your sons to further his cause in endless wars...lol sound familiar...Revelations?? guy you should read it
bigbadmamajama11 8 months ago
RELIGION= just another tool used to keep us thinking we are all different from each other. All religions claim to be peaceful but reality claims different.
PeacefulWeapon 8 months ago
RT has sold out to mainstream noisy shallow adverts! I don't watch videos that force adverts on me - I kept my subscription to Reuters cause they removed them after my comment. Its bad enough we have to deal with these stupid annoying pop up windows on the screen.
HulaAnglers 8 months ago
"The king the messiah will eventually arise and restore the kingship of the house of David to its former status, build the Temple and gather in the exiles of Israel."
Sorry it does not say in the book that you gather YOURSELVES and create your own state. Thieves.
Hauteur723 8 months ago
@Hauteur723 Brilliant! The Lord Himself is able and will do as He says He will do.
colliegirl27 8 months ago
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U.S. Invasion of Libya Set for October
infowars. com/u-s-invasion-of-libya-set-for-october/
youtube. com/watch?v=35ndI5Z0C2A
BREAKING NEWS: GADDAFI HAS THREATENED TO ATTACK EUROPE IF NATO DOESNT RETREAT
bbc.co. uk/news/world-africa-13997322
youtube. com/watch?v=i7hqcdWYRJk
No Fly Zone Over Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant Due to “Hazards”
ncrenegade. com/editorial/no-fly-zone-over-fort-calhoun-nuclear-plant-due-to-hazards/
USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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WEBSTER TARPLEY - PAKISTAN IS THE ROAD TO WW3 (1/6)
youtube. com/watch?v=qqKKGfeZucI
China Issues Ultimatum to United States
youtube. com/watch?v=dIpFapqOWoA
Congress Vote On Declaration Of World War 3
blog.alexanderhiggins. com/2011/05/15/congress-vote-declaration-world-war-3-endless-war-borders-clear-enemies-22785/
The site was recently got hacked.
Get yourself prepared.
USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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WIKILEAKS: Al Qaeda to unleash 'nuclear hellstorm' if Osama killed...
news.ninemsn.com. au/world/8241119/capturing-bin-laden-would-unleash-hell
WWIII
USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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"CIA spy" Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda
Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents pointing to the American Task Force 373 (TF373) providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with “nuclear fissile material” and “biological agents," including a nuclear "dirty bomb."
in.news.yahoo. com/cia-spy-davis-giving-nuclear-bomb-material-al-20110219-224833-452.html
USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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President Obama and Hillary Clinton pay blood money to Pakistan in adherence to Sharia law
youtube. com/watch?v=c5nuwS1UZyk
dailymail.co. uk/news/article-1366799/Raymond-Allen-Davis-Pakistan-riots-deal-US-pay-2-3m-free-CIA-agent.html
USFullOfLies 8 months ago
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U.S. 4-star General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran (2007 up to 2012)
youtube. com/watch?v=bX7hMj2NKTc
youtube. com/watch?v=lpBAC9dPr-o
"Japan’s government, threatened with more HAARP attacks, pays 60 trillion yen to Feds"
eclinik.wordpress. com/vital-issues/ben-fulford/japan’s-government-threatened-with-more-haarp-attacks-pays-60-trillion-yen-to-feds/
USFullOfLies 8 months ago
Christian Zionists are the worse than Jewish Zionists.
Knight222able 8 months ago 15
@Knight222able
Amen to that! As a former Christian Zionist I am glad to disassociate myself from it. First of all, most Christian Zionists are not aware of their tax dollars going to Israel. Second, most Christian Zionists are not even aware of Israel's "neo-Apartheid" ways towards its Palestinian neighbors.
For Christian Zionists supporting Israel is simply the "Biblical thing" to do. :P
arabianongpinoy 8 months ago
@arabianongpinoy
except it isnt even biblical
axis4peace4 8 months ago
@axis4peace4
amen to that! Though you are correct, their basic foundation for pro-Israelism is via the twisting of Biblical Scriptures :P I should have specified earlier :P
arabianongpinoy 8 months ago
@Knight222able - but Muslim Arabs are the worst of all!
ofri75 7 months ago
Please keep in mind that these Christians they are talking about, don't resemble the belief of other Christians, like me.
pari1angel 8 months ago 2
John and Diana Hagee...ugh ugh and double ugh
dlsbucur 8 months ago
The theological position is that if you curse Israel you will be cursed and if you bless Israel you will be blessed. Who does the cursing and blessing? G-d! Gen 12-3. Judeo Christians do not do the cursing and blessing. Those who do not believe is the Christ, Jesus as John 3:16 says will perish. It is not we who say that but G-d himself. BTW the lake of fire is an eternal punishment for those who worship the 'beast' as well as the 'beast' himself. Any other questions just google them.
colliegirl27 8 months ago
@colliegirl27
The theological position actually EVERYONE is as follows!
Gen 12:3 NO LONGER APPLIES TODAY as well as Jews having a right to something called Israel because
all OT law and prophecies were fulfiled by JESUS in Matt 5:17. Two types of circumcised Jews exist today according to Rom 2:28-29. Physical and Spiritual. The physical are jews who have not repented and accepted
Jesus and are all heading to HELL! The spiritual are genuine Christains who have. So today the real Jews
are
axis4peace4 8 months ago