Korean, Manchu, Jin, Qing History, 金 and 淸, 금.청나라 시조 신라인 (1/7)

[redwhitedude]

Has anybody thought that the books that the Manchus wrote could be just propaganda of the day?

[AltaicCivilization]

Manchurians are not Chinese. Manchurians are part of Altaic peoples.

Chinese are part Austronesian.

Japanese are part ASI (Australoid).

[gonnza100]

its real story

[ghoststrider45]

LOL chinese historians even says Manchus are just Korean people.

[manullim]

Only Koreans and manchu descendants carry the last name Kim(Jin). Kim is one of the oldest and largest korean clans.

[rlatndnsxo]

They have a fucking chinese historian saying this stuff, and when you hear what chinese are saying in youtube. You can notice that Chinese murder and kidnap those historians and replace it with a retard

[iseeallforme]

No, no, no I thought the Jin dynasty was founded by the Jurchen

[unitedKR]

@iseeallforme According to numerous historical books written by Manchu, Song Chinese, and Goryeo, It would be closer to the fact to say that Jin was founded by post-Silla governors with Jurchen & Parhae (decendants of Goguryeo) citizens. Group of post-Silla is the son and followers of last Silla Emperor (surname Jin). Silla lasted for more then 990 years and it would be rather obvious that the Royals didn't want to serve Goryeo who Silla handed the throne over to; and fled to north (Manchuria).

[GreatKingGwanggaeto]

The originator of Jin dyansty was a Korean who name was Kim Ham-bo. Royal family of Silla moved to northern Korean penninsular and founded Jin dynasty with Jurchens. They occupied north China and moved capital to Beijing. This country was destroyed by Mongol's Chingis Khan in 1234. But, their descendents founded Later Jin dynasty again in 1616 and conquered China in 1644. They governed and colonized China until Chinese got independence in 1912.

[redwhitedude]

@GreatKingGwanggaeto It's his descendant not Kim Hambo himself. Just to clear up some technicalities.

[petiteasiahoney]

I'm confused. How can Jin become Kim? 

[Hanul91]

@petiteasiahoney

Jin in Korean means Kim. Kim's lineage comes from Silla. There are very very few Jins from China. Agolta is also celebrated as a hero in Korean history.

[redwhitedude]

@Hanul91

Well the character in Korean can be read as gold or Kim depending on how it is used in Korean. They are treated as different characters. As a surname it is read Kim.

[unitedKR]

@petiteasiahoney Jin is Chinese pronounciation of Aisin-Gero (which is Jurchen/Manchurian pronounciation meaning "Love Shilla" Tribe). Kim is Korean pronounciation.

[MasterGaram]

so true

[GreatKingGwanggaeto]

The history of origin of Jin and Qing dynasty was finally broadcasted in KBS (National TV channel in Korea). The originator of Jin(金) dyansty was a Korean who name was Kim Ham-bo. Royal family of Silla (Korean dynasty) moved to northern Korean penninsular and founded Jin dynasty with Jurchens (AD 1068). They occupied north China and moved capital to Beijing.

[tigerjonn]

truth in a nutshell...