You people are uninformed extremist. How much experience do any of you have with cattle? Our country has the best beef industry with the hardest working individuals behind it. If you're gonna criticize how it is done, then you go pull baby calves and carry them through snow at 4 in the morning. A rancher works 365 days a year. Please get informed before you comment, and seeing a cow in real life not only on Animal Planet wouldn't hurt either.
"chase off encroahing elk"?!?! Isn't that 'wildelife harassment'? And am I mistaken but aren't elk native and cattle are an introduced species? The man has 100thousand ac, there is not enough land to have elk and cattle coexist? The next time I hear the rancher up the road say "cattle don't compete with the native wildlife" I'm going to ask him about this guy! Crazy.
@jscanyon It seems as if everybody and everything has more rights than the working man. You are quoting Gandhi who was from a nation with a caste system where human beings are treated like crap, Maybe he should have done more to do away with that system than worrying about how cows and rats are treated.
@SuperMarvinjames If you think you do not have enough rights read about the rights the working class have in other countries, or how women are treated in other countries.
The issue with the elk is not of rights but of laws. Harassing an animal is not alowed by law, but ranchers are alowed to ignore that law- that is not ok. You are protected by law from harassment, what if your boss was alowed to ignore that law?
Correct about Gandhi, the caste system is wrong and cruel.
@jscanyon Yeah...was Gandhi even a rancher? And why are you listing off Arizona's state laws when all three of these ranches are in Montana? Yes, ranchers and farmers are very important and in some cases they should be above the laws. Without them you wouldn't have food or clothes.
@theCountrymusicgur:I wrote of nation wide free range laws,I just happen to reside in Az on 36ac that borders 640ac of state-grazing-lease land.
Regardless how important ranchers,farmer,miners,oil drillers or any other group of industrues are to modern society,laws should be universal. Despite how important their business is: law is law
If the rancher stressed out the elk to a point of a decrease of population,you can bet the sport hunters would be protesting and G&F would respond accordingly.
@pilsnerperformance Fine by me. I have a heard of 45 that come across my property all the time, along with deer, javeina, bobcats, coyotee and pronghorn. So what's your point?
@ponyboyismybf You are right, but if he had killed them he would be finned for "hunting" out of hunting season, poaching or killing a game animal with out a tag. He would be in huge trouble with the Dept of Fame and Fish.
this farm has to generate a lot of money cause i will not think they are going to buy or rent a helicopter if you cant not afford it to run your business
Well... a farm that has been in the family for 3 generations is probably not a slave to much debt, and probably has good systems in place maintain the bottom line..
Also a tax write off in this case, so I could see that happening.
Why the fuck did they cancel this show??
LouisianaFowler17 6 months ago 3
I would gladly take care of those elk for him... *starts loading a magazine*
PhantomHawk700 6 months ago
You people are uninformed extremist. How much experience do any of you have with cattle? Our country has the best beef industry with the hardest working individuals behind it. If you're gonna criticize how it is done, then you go pull baby calves and carry them through snow at 4 in the morning. A rancher works 365 days a year. Please get informed before you comment, and seeing a cow in real life not only on Animal Planet wouldn't hurt either.
kawasaki827 11 months ago 2
Of couse they generate much income having 6,000 cattle brings in alot of money enough to afford a helicopter
ponyboyismybf 1 year ago
"chase off encroahing elk"?!?! Isn't that 'wildelife harassment'? And am I mistaken but aren't elk native and cattle are an introduced species? The man has 100thousand ac, there is not enough land to have elk and cattle coexist? The next time I hear the rancher up the road say "cattle don't compete with the native wildlife" I'm going to ask him about this guy! Crazy.
jscanyon 1 year ago
@jscanyon go cry to someone who cares, like Pam Anderson
andrew9966 1 year ago
@andrew99“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated”Gandhi
Fact:States have laws against wildlife harassment
In Az a non-rancher is caught chasing an ungulate he is fined
If a private land owner is caught chasing cattle off his PRIVATE land they are charged with cattle harassment-a felony in AZ
Ranchers are an important part of society but are allowed too many privileges
Laws should be universal and ranchers should not be above the law
jscanyon 1 year ago
@jscanyon It seems as if everybody and everything has more rights than the working man. You are quoting Gandhi who was from a nation with a caste system where human beings are treated like crap, Maybe he should have done more to do away with that system than worrying about how cows and rats are treated.
SuperMarvinjames 1 year ago
@SuperMarvinjames If you think you do not have enough rights read about the rights the working class have in other countries, or how women are treated in other countries.
The issue with the elk is not of rights but of laws. Harassing an animal is not alowed by law, but ranchers are alowed to ignore that law- that is not ok. You are protected by law from harassment, what if your boss was alowed to ignore that law?
Correct about Gandhi, the caste system is wrong and cruel.
jscanyon 1 year ago
@jscanyon Yeah...was Gandhi even a rancher? And why are you listing off Arizona's state laws when all three of these ranches are in Montana? Yes, ranchers and farmers are very important and in some cases they should be above the laws. Without them you wouldn't have food or clothes.
theCountrymusicguru 1 year ago
@theCountrymusicgur:I wrote of nation wide free range laws,I just happen to reside in Az on 36ac that borders 640ac of state-grazing-lease land.
Regardless how important ranchers,farmer,miners,oil drillers or any other group of industrues are to modern society,laws should be universal. Despite how important their business is: law is law
If the rancher stressed out the elk to a point of a decrease of population,you can bet the sport hunters would be protesting and G&F would respond accordingly.
jscanyon 1 year ago
@jscanyon why dont we just chase those elk onto your 36 acres and see what happend then?
pilsnerperformance 2 days ago
@pilsnerperformance Fine by me. I have a heard of 45 that come across my property all the time, along with deer, javeina, bobcats, coyotee and pronghorn. So what's your point?
jscanyon 2 days ago
@jscanyon at least they are just herding them away not killing them. It's his job to feed and raise cattle not Elk
ponyboyismybf 1 year ago
@ponyboyismybf You are right, but if he had killed them he would be finned for "hunting" out of hunting season, poaching or killing a game animal with out a tag. He would be in huge trouble with the Dept of Fame and Fish.
jscanyon 1 year ago
this farm has to generate a lot of money cause i will not think they are going to buy or rent a helicopter if you cant not afford it to run your business
1sikgti16v 1 year ago
Well... a farm that has been in the family for 3 generations is probably not a slave to much debt, and probably has good systems in place maintain the bottom line..
Also a tax write off in this case, so I could see that happening.
jefftroyer 1 year ago
i can't imagine that this farmwork is cost-effective enough to maintain the daily use of a helicopter?!
RuleThaEra 1 year ago