2011 13" Macbook Pro i7 World of Warcraft gameplay

[JonasLaerke]

Would my mac run it just as good at 25 fps without SSD but just the standard one? And is it normal for the mac to get up to 90 degrees and is it damaging in the long run?

[aznguyen316]

@JonasLaerke normal to get up to 90. Get a laptop cooler. In the long run, not really unless you're gaming 24/7 at 90degrees. It's 100degrees + when you worry. And yes your mac will run it fine at 25fps w/o SSD.

[Riosjonathon]

And what does vsync do? I've never turned it on. Sorry for all the noob questions, just trying to get as much info before I drop 1500 bucks hehe, thanks in advance.

[Riosjonathon]

I'm getting this model soon but with standard hdd. Does ssd speed up wow performance or just starting up computer?

[jkballer1308]

@Riosjonathon Everything will load a lot faster.

[brianmartell1991]

how do you get addons for mac?

[aznguyen316]

@brianmartell1991 same as windows, stick them in your addons folder (just like windows)

[waterwings69]

how do u tab out of the game on a mac?

[aznguyen316]

@waterwings69 I just use expose. so four fingers down.. or the F3 key I think.

[waterwings69]

@aznguyen316 thanks i figured out command m works well

[ARedSnowball]

I'm getting my MacBook in Christmas and m ready t get world of Warcraft and become a no life woo hoo !!!!!!

[nutbagticles]

Does 'FRAPS' work on the mac?

[aznguyen316]

@nutbagticles as in recording? No but there are other options such as the in-game video recording option WoW has. Wow also has a built in FPS reader. If you want to record outside of wow there are screen capture options too.

[shortway444]

@aznguyen316 that is you the guy in red sitting behind the mac playing the game huh. At first, i thought you were some kind of goddess with a big shape like you are actually IN THE GAME LOL, so i was freaked out by that haha. I was like WOW THE BIG GODDESS IN WOW LOL.

[shortway444]

@aznguyen316 asian dude! psh i am also asian LOL.

[iiperento]

@aznguyen316 do u study programming in ur school? and one mroe question, what are the most common used programs that do not run on Macbooks just like those fraps u mentioned, is there anymore? tnx

[13579ROFLCOPTER]

I plan to get a macbook for college but I love to game. i have read that the macbook has cooling issues and am concerned about if it will shorten the lifespan of the computer. I am not an extreme gamer but certain days i will play for several hours. have you had issues with overheating? how seriously does it affect the life of the laptop?

[aznguyen316]

@13579ROFLCOPTER I have not had issues with overheating. Just be smart, don't cover the back vents, limit your FPS in wow using the in game maximum fps so your computer stays cooler. Use a notebook cooler as well. But it will only affect the laptop if you are not being smart about overclocking or playing on a pillow and blocking the rear vents. Wow is supported by apple so if some reason something happens it would be covered as long as you have applecare. Laptops just get hot in general.

[remix198]

Please reply! Will this ruin your Mac Book or Make it slower?

[Sbrff]

@remix198 no :)

[Venomz04]

alienware sucks compared to the price you pay for the specs. Would still go with the macbook though.

[TeamHuntingRyko]

Hey question pls answer:

I am a wow player but my pc got effed up and i didnt or dont know alot about computers... i really want a apple macbook since i have a lot of apple products so i wanted to ask: to game, should i get a alienware laptop or this macbook? ( not looking at the fact that i want one lol)

[aznguyen316]

@TeamHuntingRyko Do you plan to MOSTLY game? If so get the Alienware. If you plan on transporting to school etc, then it could be a tossup. The M14x is still a solid gaming and portable laptop. The Macbook is great all around and it would be my preference to get a MacBook but I didn't game a whole lot when in school/classes either.

[greedisgoodz]

@TeamHuntingRyko What did you get?

[TeamHuntingRyko]

@greedisgoodz

im getting the alienware...

[Ronaldomanofthematch]

@TeamHuntingRyko alienware ofc... :D

[JaoquinQ]

looks great, must be brutal on a 13" screen though

[janesmirror]

I'm looking at getting a MBP 13" as well. Mostly for school.. but if I'm going to have a laptop, it might as well run wow :]

Does your MBP heat up quite a bit while running wow/on regular browsing or word processing basis ?

Thanks so much !

Jessica Jane

[Vccine]

Pretty sweet. I've got one question though. Does the solid state drive makes the notebook perform faster? What's the approximate difference between ssd and hdd? 20-30 %? of speed increase?

Also, Im planning to buy a MBP 13 inch myself (Im about to go to college) soon, do you think it is worth it?

Thanks

[aznguyen316]

@Vccine Yes the MBP 13 is terrific. SSD is awesome, it increases LOAD times for applications, startup OS, and games, but it won't increase frame rate in WoW, but it will help load up the levels and when you are flying on a mount etc load up things from the drive a lot faster without stutter. Night and day difference.

[Vccine]

@aznguyen316 Cool, thanks for answer

[MrDarthReaper]

Hey, just wondering do I have to have the original WoW in order to play Cataclysm ?

[aznguyen316]

@MrDarthReaper Yes you need Wow "vanilla" then Burning Crusade, and then wrath of lich king lol and then buy Cataclysm. But you have to level up to do cataclysm stuff although the world has already been changed even for low levels.

[MrDarthReaper]

@aznguyen316 okay, thankyou

[thatguy987]

@MrDarthReaper You can download all the WoW games that are out now for a low prize at battle.net (Search it on google). You'll need a montly payment and an account to play the game. :)

[aznguyen316]

@B3JonnyB Not a problem! Take care now

[aznguyen316]

@B3JonnyB Sorry but the purpose of this video was to show how well it runs for those wanting to purchase a MBP to play WoW. You can find plenty of actual gameplay videos if you would like though on youtube here, or anywhere else. Thanks for stopping by though!

[xDeniel1996]

borin



[BatistaR0X]

i cant wait to get my mac pro :( anyway any idea about the next gen of mac pro? i heard from some humor is coming next month with some upgrade is it?

[aznguyen316]

@BatistaR0X rumors say a minor spec bump. However the 13" would probably only see the i7 machine get the minor bump as the i5's were not upgraded that the MBP 13" would use. The 15" and 17" may see the i7 quad core chips get upgraded a tad as well. Not sure what else would be updated however.

[assassinscreed1171]

@aznguyen316 just a couple questions about wow. umm is it fun? i see theres lot of attacks or whatever on the bottom of your screen, do you get used to it? and how much is it per month?

[aznguyen316]

@assassinscreed1171 yeah it's fun, it's more about building up your character and teamwork in dungeons what I like about it. It's $15/month unfortuantely which I'm not a big fan of. Yeah there's a lot of skills to learn and things to do, questing, pvp'ing, dungeons, crafting.. yup yup!

[assassinscreed1171]

@aznguyen316 sweet thx for replying soo fast :D

[crystopher121]

what on mind i run 40 fps on good?? O.o you prob have alot of random programs

[aznguyen316]

@crystopher121 depends a LOT on when you log in. Peak server hours you will not be getting 40FPS in orgrimmar, bet on that. WoW FPS varies a lot, so it's kind of useless to compare FPS. Just know it runs well.

[MrMalteNielson]

It actually does a pretty amazing job for an integrated GPU. Also Killing Floor, Left 4 Dead 2 and Starcraft 2 runs pretty damn well (on some lower settings ofc). I have been arguing with my self, and I guess I will only be taking my MBP 13" 2011 with me when im going to LAN parties. The stationary will stay at home :)

[Tanax13]

Would there be any large differences between this and the i5-version of the 13" -model? Both of them are using the Intel HD 3000 so there shouldn't be THAT much of a difference but I would like to know what you think though

[aznguyen316]

@Tanax13 not that huge of a difference to be honest, and since it's not running that bad it won't make a difference.

[KeKeKeilan]

@Tanax13 just upgrade the ram on the i5 and your set! The graphics card gets 384mb vram with 4gb of RAM and 512mb of vram with 8gb of RAM..if that makes any sense to you =P but just upgrade the ram and you won't regret the i5

[Tanax13]

@KeKeKeilan Wait what? I was under the impression the 13" doesn't have a graphics card? It uses the HD3000 which is included in the intel APU of the i5 processor? Only the 15" models(and above) have graphics cards. Also, how could the vram go up if the ram is upgraded? Just curious hehe :)

[aznguyen316]

@Tanax13 no graphics card in the 13" or 15" if you want to be technical. 15" have a dedicated graphics chip GPU. But 13" uses on-board HD3000.

[KeKeKeilan]

@Tanax13 well the HD 3000 technically IS a graphics card, its just not a separate discrete one, and vram is virtual ram which helps non-discrete graphics cards and gets increased when you upgrade your actual ram =P of course discrete graphics cards like the 15" mbp's amd cards are better though because they have dedicated memory and don't need vram. Not really sure WHY vram goes up when you upgrade your ram, but it just does lol, you can quote me on that!

[Joso0493]

Will downloading this game reduce my mac's capability in any way? I have 13" 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5. 4GD 1333MHz DDR3. I don't want to fuck anything up:) I know it will get hot, but will I have any other problems while and after the game is on my machine? I want it to last for some years. I'm a newb when it comes to this, but thanks for any reply! :)

[aznguyen316]

@Joso0493 not at all. There is no worries regarding if this will hurt your Mac in the future. There are a lot of ppl that use their Macbook to play WoW, trust me on that. Just make sure you don't cover up the back ventilation area when playing to allow your macbook to cool off. This is the case for ANY intensive applications run on any notebook. Just play on a desk and you'll be good, not directly on carpet or something =)

[Joso0493]

@aznguyen316 Thank you very much, now I have no worries! TO AZEROTH!

[Juanjothebest16]

is maxed out?



[ukjamie96]

Just max it :)

[handsome2302]

Go for Windows if you wanna play a decent game. This is a shame with i7 that could not handle such a graphic like this. I got a HP with a same specs and it could handle pretty much everything

[LeegeeLegit]

How did you get i7 in a 13 inch???????

[GGWHITEBOy33]

if you were to turn off your shadow and turn you view distance to low im pretty sure you would average around 50-55 FPS

[wonglikkk]

i own the same model, i play wow with plugged in. but the computer bottom will be very hot....

any advice?

[aznguyen316]

@wonglikkk Yes, don't play on your lap. Don't block the vents on the back. and CAP YOUR FPS. This last one is probably the biggest one. You can cap your fps by going into the video settings I think advanced or some other tab. It shows background fps which is when you have wow open but are browsing the web or something and the other one during gameplay. Drag the slider bar to less than half way and measure your FPS by hovering over the computer icon on menu bar. cap it around 30FPS.

[MikeyZeov]

@wonglikkk never play on your lap.. you will grill your balls, seriously.

[andrewjhsu]

how do you cap to 25fps?

[aznguyen316]

@andrewjhsu You can cap your fps by going into the video settings I think advanced or some other tab. It shows background fps which is when you have wow open but are browsing the web or something and the other one during gameplay. Drag the slider bar to less than half way and measure your FPS by hovering over the computer icon on menu bar. cap it around 25-30FPS.

[andrewjhsu]

@aznguyen316 thanks man

[Bailey0aka0billy]

Has there been any updates for the 3000 since this video that increased the performance at all? And would overclocking to 3.0 on the i7 be fine if the fans were on the whole time? Thanks.

[HilroyHartley]

have you tried doing this in a raid?

[wowshamanful]

how much do you want to transfer you goblin into my account?????

[THEPAINE552]

nice gobby dk never tride that race before

[Zlysor]

How hot does your MBP run when you play WoW or watch flash video?

[joeastig]

Hows the MBP 13" 2.3ghz for Wow and SC2 Gameplay on middium,high setting?

Thankz in advance

[joeastig]

Hows the MBP 13'' for wow and SC2 gameplay?

[joeastig]

Hows the MBP 13'' for wow and SC2 gameplay?

[psno1994]

Do you play anything else, or are you one of those people who ONLY play WOW?

If you manage to do something besides WOW, what plays smoothly on the MBP 13 i7?

[thisstinks92]

haha when the fan came on i thought it was going to explode

[mlw441]

"Intel HD 3000 IGP (lulz)" LMAO!

[Skunbunnys]

So it will run WoW, Warcraft, C&C and all that jazz glitch free?

[catalyst2Extinction]

how much was it to get all of that stuff?

[XxAcdcRocks28]

@catalyst2Extinction 13-inch 1,199.00$,, 15-inch 1,799.00$,,17-inch 2,499.00$

[Acro8700]

Will WoW still run decently on a 2011 13-inch Pro with these settings?

2.3GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5

4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB

320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm

[aznguyen316]

@Acro8700 yes, if you check the other comments, there are plenty asking the same thing =)

[Acro8700]

@aznguyen316 sorry! I didn't really look. :P but thank you very much for the quick and helpful response! (: I'm getting my macbook pro soon, so I can't wait!

[LeegeeLegit]

@Acro8700 I'm asking around the same thing! Hahahaha. I'm so hesitant. Ugh I just want a MacBook already but I'm afraid that the EXACT SAME MODEL that you mentioned (which is the one I';m going to buy) won't run WoW decently.

[K3v1NDizzle]

Does the game use up your laptop battery fast or overheat your comp? I'm hesitant about installing WoW on my laptop so I want to make sure it won't mess up my laptop before college starts

[aznguyen316]

@K3v1NDizzle I don't play on battery, but if I were to it'd probably take an hour or two before it drained. Play with it plugged in. Also no it won't overheat as long as you're on a flat surface when you play. the fans will come on but your'e fan. WoW won't damage your laptop, they sell it in the apple stores and the geniuses don't care if you play it and if something were to overheat it would be apple's job to replace it as long as you didn't do anything bad.

[scragftw]

@K3v1NDizzle You should always play plugged in, you will noticed performance issues otherwise. Plus i've seen that when you plug in the power supply the GFX card activates at full power too! bring on the high FPS! :)

[Kieranoe]

Will an i5 Processor still do a good job? Thanks in advance!! (:

[aznguyen316]

@Kieranoe Yup!

[zeta2099]

Thanks a lot I didn't have enough to buy the 15'' model with AMD Graphics but you put my mind at ease Seems most of my games will be ok with the Intel HD 3000 :)

[aznguyen316]

@zeta2099 no problem, enjoy it HD3000 will be fine for many games.

[whitestallion1995]

will it run fast even on a hard drive?

[toondebruijn]

@whitestallion1995

yes it will run smooth! i'm uploading atm a movie with a i5 playing world of warcraft also a ssd, but when i have a optibay i will show you how it run on a hard drive. i can also make a video difference between a 2010 macbook pro 13 and a 2011 macbook pro ( i have both) so if someone like that say it:)

[whitestallion1995]

@toondebruijn so it doesnt matter if u get a hard drive or a ssd? they will be the same speed? btw is it true ssd slows down over time?

[aznguyen316]

@whitestallion1995 SSD is very good for MMO's since there is CONSTANT loading. SSD can slow over a long period of time but Windows 7 has trim so that's not really an issue any more. It was for older SSD's. I recommend an SSD over a lot of things but only after you have a decent CPU/GPU for gaming. But SSD can help a lot over HDD for WoW. Other games, not always. Just load times. SSD in WOW helps for smoothness when flying around and constantly loading new users or terrain etc.

[whitestallion1995]

@aznguyen316 whats trimming? and what if u dont have windows 7 on mac? is a hard drive more beneficial then??

[prestonw55]

Ummm... Whats the hype about... This game looks hella stupid. Can someone explain why this game is fun?

[aznguyen316]

@prestonw55 do you play RPG's? Or MMOs? If not then don't worry about it. Just being serious here.

[signifikntother]

Nice video! just wondering what add-on your using to group all your spells together @ the bottom of screen?

[whitestallion1995]

doesnt ssd's slow down over a while? how can u prevent that?

[keegasus]

im not sure if i should buy the MBP 13 i7 or the MBP 15 2.0 Ghz ....

is the difference for gaming worth the money for the MBP 15??

[aznguyen316]

@keegasus yeah there will be a difference, the 2.2 with 6750 a large difference and the 2.0 with 6490 an okay difference. Depends on how much money you want to drop to make up the difference to make worth it.

[Mychro16]

oh my god this is beautiful

on my macbook 2008 i can't put the settings above the lowest without making it go about 3 fps

also swarley <3

[aznguyen316]

@Mychro16 thanks yo!

[TheParkourBear]

Will this be much different on a i5 Processor?

Intel Core i5

4GB RAM

500GB HDD

Intel HD Graphics 3000

[aznguyen316]

@TheParkourBear Should be very similar! Turbo boosts on i7 in OSX is pretty good but I don't think it helps a whole lot. The i5 processor should be plenty good! The HD 3000 is what holds it back, but wow still uses a lot of CPU power so the i5 helps a lot. Go have fun, enjoy it!!

[dayananDKZ]

do you feel like the screen is too small?

[aznguyen316]

@dayananDKZ I played wow on a 13" for two years, never really thought that. I occasionally have it hooked up to a 32" tv though and it runs fine there too. Now I have a 15" Macbook and love that. It's never too small to play wow =D

[newtypeJP]

SWARLEY !!!!! thumbs up for wow, how i met your mother and i7 mbp

[aznguyen316]

@newtypeJP thumbs up to you buddy for knowing the references! Mad UPs!!

[jamesalli55]

what is best tell me a imac 27 or a macbook pro 13?

[aznguyen316]

@jamesalli55 iMac 27 hands down if you want more power and graphics. If you need portability then obviously you have to get the MBP 13" But yeah iMac 27 or even the MBP 15" with 2.2 and 6750 is beastly for gaming.

[SatanLovesMetal]

Haha i can see you in reflection of the light in screen :p

[aznguyen316]

@SatanLovesMetal pretty sexy right?

[YourVideoSuckz]

why do you cap at 25?

[Reb10101]

does the solid state memory drives get hotter than a slandered hard drive? because I have never heard the fans kick i like that

[Badkarmaud]

could this machine run 'Star wars the old republic'? another MMO, slightly higher graphics and processor hungry than wow?

[aznguyen316]

@Badkarmaud probably, but nothing for sure. They said they wanted to make sure it runs on many PC's across the board so I would say yes. MMO's often you can turn down some graphical settings and just have CPU work some of the other draw distance and RNG stuff... who knows though.

[Badkarmaud]

would this run star wars the old republic? upcoming MMO..

[Reb10101]

@Badkarmaud that question was already asked and answered look in unloader comments ^^^

[Badkarmaud]

@Reb10101 i cant find it...pls just answer ?

[Reb10101]

@Badkarmaud it should work because they made the game to work with most computers it is normaly the graphics you have to worry about and you can always just turn down the settings.

[prendanski]

Thanks bro

[prendanski]

Oh btw can i know please how did u get wow permenant ? How to buy it and from where ?? please any help !!

[ogynche]

@prendanski from blizzard site

[prendanski]

Why dont u run it on the high graphics settings ?? anyway from your expierince as a gamer do u think its good for games such as wow or cod or assassins creed please help thanks

[asphyxiafeeling]

Seems the same as the 320m. 13 inch MBP lucked out on GPU w/ this generation.

oh well. at least it has the HD iSight, Thunderbolt, and i7!

[deadpulse901]

windows 7?



[aznguyen316]

@deadpulse901 Mac OSX 10.6.6. in description =)  also if you could tell expose

[darthmma]

thank you dude! i was hoping that at least the new i7+hd3000 would perform the same as the old c2d+320m and your video seems to show that. i want to get rid of my old macbook white and new mac mini for just a macbook pro and i needed to know if it would play WoW at least at the same capacity as the mini. going to the apple store now...

[aznguyen316]

@darthmma NP dogg, you'll love it. Shit is a sick machine.

[ReanimatedShad0w]

I actually thought you would get higher frames. You think it would run better on vmare? Anyways, congrats on the purchase, enjoy it.

[MrDoncarnage]

Hmmm...for WoW which is a lot demanding on graphics nowadays you should have went for 2.2ghz+1GB radeon MBP...there you can switch all to max and have solid 50fps at all time with 3-4 seconds loading screens

[UnrealGlider]

The new MBP 2011 sucks for games, nasty nasty gfx chip :( Seeing as I mainly use my 2010 mbp for games on the go, seems I wont be upgrading this time round which is a shame considering I've had every mbp since 2008 :(

[Usul573]

@UnrealGlider

Nasty gfx? What? It's pretty awesome.

[MrDoncarnage]

@UnrealGlider

I dont know how new MBP can suck for games, I can run any Mac made game or any Win game via boot camp on max settings never going below 50 frames...

and ofc 13inch model is not made for gaming...thats why it doesnt have graphic card, only integrated memory in CPU

[jacobmason4200]

ok so ive got a quick question, can you put the quad core i-7 processor and the new graphics card that comes in the 15" mac book into the 13", i dont know much about this stuff so i fugured you guys would know more than me.

thanks for the help guys

[aznguyen316]

@jacobmason4200 nope you cannot. Basically only thing you can replace is the hard drive and memory/ram. But CPU and GPU are stuck.

[MrDoncarnage]

@jacobmason4200 Nope you cant. It will cause a meltdown imho, you cant fit all those things with bigger vents in 13inch...that was the general idea of how to save space in 13inch model - by removing graphics and implementing less space demanding integrated only so why would someone want to do exactly the opposite?

[GreenIguanaQi]

Hey, thanks for posting this. Just bought the new MBP 13" i5 , loaded up WOW and started to freak out a bit when I saw I couldn't bring the settings up past fair! Almost returned the whole computer. My old 2.0Ghz Macbook 2G RAM was able to use higher settings. I'll try it again by setting everything manually. I'm still pretty new to WOW, and only play a few hours a week, so I don't need a top computer. Thanks! I appreciate this.

[aznguyen316]

@GreenIguanaQi no problem. yeah just set the settings each manually. The ones that affect CPU you can turn up a bit high like view distance and detail settings. those are really only the important ones.. plus the projected textures is a big deal to see casting elements on the ground. G

[aznguyen316]

@GreenIguanaQi NP! Just turn up the settings you want manually. LIke I have ultra on view distance and high on details. everything else can be lower or whatever, doesn't matter a whole lot. Also be sure to turn ON projected textures so you can see casting elements on the ground. Good luck! Enjoy the machine, it's awesome.

[Ragbart1986]

how much fps do you had ?

[aznguyen316]

@Ragbart1986 averaged around 40ish

[SeKiD88]

one man has life ;D

[clickmyface]

So overall do you feel good about the purchase?

[aznguyen316]

@clickmyface hella goood

[gangsta1904]

been waiting for this

[lucasBananahead]

it sounds like its gonna take off

[oompaem88]

Macrumors got me here...

Thanks for the vid.

[xSimplyRice]

0 people can't hang with the new MBP

...wait a min

Looks clean bro =D

[aznguyen316]

@xSimplyRice looks even better now, some OCD fool got to tauntin me so I got aggro'd and started to murk up the joint.