oGs MC (P) vs Sen (Z) G1 Dreamhack Summer Group D

[gubbstv]

toss so OP my god

[rapzjk]

The hell. Cut the shit. Nobody wants to watch two faggots touch eachother at the start of every video.

[DontMessWithEmin3m]

18:15 HOLY FUCK MC IS MY HERO

[drPoWW]

muta vs phoenix? gg my friend

[MrCaptainprice]

he said morphing more stalkers

[power2pandas]

non-day9 announcer bad

[terrell568]

Those forcefeilds were amazing!

[hanisland97]

Taiwanese superstar --------- SEn!!!!!!!~~~~

[maxaxelpro]

pro forcefields !

[Leonitusworm]

Damn MC is crazygood.

[gazaunltd5945]

do they get free coke since its their sponser

[Saurabhinator]

lol d'apollo at the start.

"i dont know"

"It's MC vs Sen!"

[TheNeCafe]

ffs are op...

[MyNameIsRuSe]

omg..i want a coke.... but y the sudden interest?

[dgrandes]

MCs micro is so sick that he didnt even have his units hotkeyed during the first force field laydown at 18:16. He MANUALLY selected his sentries. One second too late or a misclick of not hitting the sentries, or not selecting them all at once with a double click and not a triple or a single click and his collosus where gone. That precision is godly.

[HeliconPath]

wtf all he had to do was lift those hyrdras and that would have been all over...

[leahcimevlak]

@HeliconPath they where out of energy 

[KriegImBlut]

I miss the Snickers logo on their foreheads.

[Hyena9324]

forcefields not op at all.....

[Buretsu]

@Hyena9324 Considering the amount of skill one has to have to use them properly, no they're not.

[rkid1296]

FF's are so OP! I can't run in with my instaspawn 500 mineral army and kill the protoss' 1000 mineral 400 gas army! GOD BLIZZ I PAY UR WAGES NERF FF's!

[gojons999]

this dosen't feel like sweden day9 speek some swedish:) that you mayby have learned:)!

VOTE UPP SO DAY9 CAN SEE!!

[rrosasvette]

GOD I FUCKING HATE FORCEFIELDS!

[caspertoot]

omfg the forcefield were too pretty

[Veritassify]

lol starcraft2 is garbage compared to broodwar

[atesaksac]

Zerg OP

[392redienhcs]

@Veritassify

Except for those who disliked this video - we all beg to disagree.

Now go troll somewhere else before I cut your nuts off and feed it to my dogs. They'd love chewing those virgin sacs of yours.

[42ruknor]

haha, BM warp prism

[ObiOneGinobili]

For those saying FF needs a nerf, I don't think it's a solution. Plus Protoss will be too easy to kill with early all ins.

Zerg needs a mid game unit that makes it possible to tech to whatever it needs to win against the deathball; without dying to 6gate. A hydra upgrade, or evolution, would ensure that all the gas you pour into those bastards isn't just wasted when the P has 3 colossus or high templars. I think that's what blizzard will do.

[ScientologyisFTL]

@ObiOneGinobili I think that mid game unit is called... the corruptor.

[ObiOneGinobili]

@ScientologyisFTL

Indeed corruptors are very good against 6 gate.

Not the best reading skills, have you?

[ScientologyisFTL]

@ObiOneGinobili Roaches and hydras annihilate 6gate. If you need to tech to beat the deathball...a spire produces corruptors, which beats the deathball. Zerg has counters enough to beat its opponents, you just need to react appropriately (Zerg is the reactionary race)

[ObiOneGinobili]

@ScientologyisFTL

Well that's just it.

Roach/Hydra/Corruptor not being able to deal with the deathball except in extroardinary circumstances (FF fail, perfect concave, perfect corruptor number) is exactly what zergs have been complaining about for the last 6 months. Roach and (especially) hydras will both melt before any damage is done.

Anyway I have faith in blizzard, I'm sure they understand that hydras are the key unit to balance this matchup, and they'll give them something in HOTS.

[kkev1n]

Awesome match. I would love to see Dimaga vs MC.

[TheDjayleno]

Does the other caster here have a youtube channel?

[H0z3rz]

Sen fears the warp prism

[iamLI3]

@AnderasMile of course that's what you would figure , but there was no mention of it , you don't usually get sponsored by something and not mention that something at all.....

[pr1m4t3]

Protoss OP

[FallofAdam88]

OP, QQ waaahhhhh! Cry to your mommy! FF so OP! QQ Terran OP, QQ. STFU about OP you whiny little bitches

[DontEscrowTaxes]

i see they served coke at lunch

[wazzobazzo]

FFs are such a shitty mechanic (I say this as a protoss) but it's so needed because the gatewayunits unupgraded are so worthless without the sentrysupport with shields and FFs.. Also as P there's no way to defend VS say ling/roach allins on smaller maps without them:S Don't see how they can be nerfed (maybe to be made smaller/not last as long but to remove them would kill every P earlygame).

[xMidnightxMistx]

@wazzobazzo only nerf that is possible is lowering the sentry max energy to decrease there number but even then thats not worth it... players dont realize the investment sentries are and the delay and damage it does to tec.

[xMidnightxMistx]

@wazzobazzo altho i think its a great mechanic and idea. altho i wish they would bring back zergs dark swarm ability

[Doesitmatterson]

why is coca-cola there .. hmm

[TitsMcGee1804]

i admit those forcefields were pretty perfect and skillfully placed, but it just goes to show how in the hands of the right player, they are overpowered, im sorry but losing your whole army just because of a single spell

[megamarsvin]

Man is that Coke product placement subtle or what? xD

[aSheeple]

@megamarsvin What coke?

[dk3919]

@megamarsvin It actually changes in the midst of the game. LOL you can start with regular coke and end the game with diet!

[leahcimevlak]

@megamarsvin nahhh they need more 

[FleshgodRa]

Force fields are sooooooooo OP. No skills involved.

[romanphoenix999]

@FleshgodRa pulling back also involves no skill.

[ReloaD10101]

sentries >>> Sen

[TeddyAki]

Damn, feel like a coke.

[Killmashine]

protos < skill

[chesssjakk]

@Killmashine Why?

[iamLI3]

.....what's with the 3 coke bottles just randomly sitting on your casting desk -.o?.....

[ForsakenObserver]

@iamLI3 Product placement! trying to make you want one. ;P

[romanphoenix999]

Mc or Huk?

[kamikrazi123]

Z anti air sucks bawls. You dumbasses who say we have queens early game, queens do shit dps.

[inkuiable]

@kamikrazi123 But with a Spore and transfuses we/they/Zerg manage...

[BeefcakeMoney]

@kamikrazi123 Transfuse more?

[romanphoenix999]

@kamikrazi123 scouting? then build spores. Any build you don't scout is desastrous, some builds more then others.

[kamikrazi123]

@romanphoenix999 you have to throw up like 4 total and have queens to spare. stargate rush pretty much pays for itself even if it doesn't do damage.

[Teque86]

1080p quality pleaseeeeeeeee :D

[pr1m4t3]

Protoss OP

[romanphoenix999]

@pr1m4t3 bitch more.

[pr1m4t3]

@romanphoenix999 Protoss OP

[romanphoenix999]

@pr1m4t3 more plz

[pr1m4t3]

@romanphoenix999 Protoss OP

[xMidnightxMistx]

@pr1m4t3 lols u obviously play zerg... only zerg players are still bitching about over powered! the numbers prove that toss isn't over powered... its just an easier race to learn because its balanced.

[NationalHQ]

Those FF....I don't even play protoss, and I came.

[christopherwinsor]

FF are imba

[hanslol]

MC is a dick for saying he could win every tournament, but his play is just awesome. THOSE FOCEFIELDS DAMMIT

[snitchables]

Game starts at 06:00

[Terribella1123]

nig

[xTheNIL8Rx]

game starts at 5:36

[FreakishDonQuixote]

Forcefields :(

[Skazamboi]

game starts at 6:02 ^.^

[jplayer073]

@Skazamboi Very helpful, thanks. :P Sometimes it feels like they talk too much. Love Day9 nonetheless.

[barbamormor]

@Skazamboi Who would be foolish enough to skip through an intro with Day9 ?!

[linenlines]

ff imba -_-

[MegaMorche]

@linenlines yes, ff are imba if you can throw them nearly instantly at perfect locations, wait, thats skill...

[silmiril1776]

@MegaMorche yes OP gets confused with really good all the time....i dont believe anything is "OP" i only play toss and i get owned by all three races all the time there is always a bigger fish :)

[Drys7]

Toss is not OP... MC is OP (!)

[KillZonne1]

damn product placement, i'd kill right now for a coke

[Drys7]

Game starts at 5:52

[dar482]

Well, that's MC forcefields for ya. Gg.

[atesaksac]

Nani = "what" in japanese (whats "naniwa" mean?)

[mounlolol]

@atesaksac Actually, 何は doesn't form grammatically correct sentences. In Colloquial speech you would use 「何？」, but typically if you're asking what something is you would use 「何ですか」. Also, pretty sure Naniwa isn't Japanese.

[tommyblunt]

protoss is op

[Terribella1123]

@tommyblunt because fungal growth is totally fair

[NightHawk3121]

Damn they became smarter now they put ads into videos!

[NightHawk3121]

Damn i waited for Day9 to drink cola when camera pans on him and he spews all on Apollo :D

[Ps3Dudez]

lol if 9 overlord was superior how come the korean players are better then everyone else, herpderp

[TORMENTUH2]

@Ps3Dudez Um because they're Korean...

[Barbadian2k8]

Lol FF's, so fucking stupid. 

[Barbadian2k8]

My god Apollo. Dude is the worst, shit-talking, no-sense making, emo lookin', cheesy voice faking, terrible game-sensing, vain co-casting penis this side of the planet.

[bewbs4]

fuckin force fields...

[qualaloempour]

match starts at 05:50

[BuGBurnout]

Using warp prism to warp in units in the front line ... well there's something I haven't seen + the forcefield placement. When the ling-roach army was moving in I was thinking: yeah his dead; (puts down forcefields) nope he won't be.

[OrdoMallius]

force fields are OP

[Ev0clipse]

@OrdoMallius force fields are the only thing Protoss can

[OrdoMallius]

@Ev0clipse

yeah except making a ball and then A+left click

[Ev0clipse]

@OrdoMallius u, that comment of mine wasn't finished, i thought i canceled it ... sorry for posting that half ready comment. But funny that u managed to do an interpretation and posting an answer.

[SalsaSalling]

@OrdoMallius No

[OrdoMallius]

Really subtle Coca-Cola...really subtle

[SalsaSalling]

wtf coca cola?

[jeppyjoh]

@SalsaSalling they had zero another time, but the labels are indeed awfully well placed at the camera :D

[warheart999]

game starts at 5:59

[Invisiblefiyah]

grats to sen for playing sc2 like it was 2010

[agostinho1234]

18:15 that's forcefielding like a BOSS!

[Invisiblefiyah]

match starts at 5:55

[agostinho1234]

6:00 ( i really think that they talk too much BEFORE the match up) xD

[skillz0122]

MC hacking.

[ObiOneGinobili]

I don't understand why people force themselves to think the game is balanced.

When MC was on 2 bases and had 66 probes to over 70 for Sen, everybody knew the game was over because if you don't have a huge advantage in ZvP you lose. That needs to be fixed by blizzard, frankly even protoss players should agree with that.

[Stealthy1Ninja]

@ObiOneGinobili Not MC's fault he out harassed Sen and that he stopped the early roach pressure

[ObiOneGinobili]

@Stealthy1Ninja

I'm not saying it's MC's fault.

All I'm saying is, in ZvP if you let the protoss get his 3rd it feels as though the game is over, no matter how good your macro is.

I had no doubt MC would win after he got his third, and with any other protoss it would've been the same. This, to me, is bad balance. Like the other poster said, I think people are being a bit blind to the imbalance in this matchup, just because roach/ling all ins are winning a lot of games.

[MegaMindgames]

@ObiOneGinobili A Zerg can drone uop much faster than toss if you go with same economy into late you're an idot, I hate zerg whiners

[ObiOneGinobili]

@MegaMindgames

I'm playing random, and you have a very poor understanding of this game. Watch more games, play a little every race, then you'll be allowed to talk.

Zerg cannot realistically have a much better economy than a protoss that does one of these fast expansion builds. A little better economy is possible, which was the case in this vid.

Hate those people who call you a whiner when you bring up a legitimate balance problem. Why don't they use their brain?

[FreakishDonQuixote]

@ObiOneGinobili

so true. Toss just crushes Zerg. Toss Terra is pretty balanced though imo.

[MrComputerXO]

@ObiOneGinobili do you play zerg? do you always try to engage the protoss ball? if you do, that is your first mistake. Zerg units are not tanks, they are quick guerrilla type fighters. They harass, they put pressure, they expand everywhere, they make the opponent afraid to move out to attack by putting very real threats, ever seen how fast cracklings or mutas can drop entire bases? and jesus, nydus worms opened anywhere, instant transport an entire army around the map.

[ObiOneGinobili]

@MrComputerXO

I play random.

There always comes a point when you have to engage if you want to win. Besides the Protoss army can be quite mobile, especially compared to the compositions you see in ZvT.

As for Nydus worm, they're actually quite slow. Units come out one by one, and if the meat of your army is roaches or zerglings it takes ages. Dropping is almost always better in my experience.

[MrComputerXO]

@ObiOneGinobili I played zerg in the beta up till when the game came out (I always played z in bw) and I always used late game multi-nydus-in-different-locat­ions-attack-everything-and-for­ce-ball-to-split-or-have-a-bas­e die. it was awesome. especially in roach 1 supply beta days. god damn that was OP. Protoss can only warp in to reinforce immediately=20 gateways=20 units max...you get to transport an entire army...ANYWHERE...then i got bored of Z cause of its limited versatility in WOL and went P

[MrComputerXO]

@ObiOneGinobili with that said, I do think ff needs a slight nerf, it still makes engagin the toss ball especially in mid game after toss survives the initial push to grab an expansion, too hard. It isn't impossible but it shouldn't so easily reward simple micro and positioning. IDEAS: decreasing the size of ff or making it killable with sufficent hp to slice n kite will allow an aggressive player sum leeway to continue being aggressive.

[ltran90]

@MrComputerXO lol FF are fine. If a toss get deathball with mass sentrys and the zerg has roaches/hydra/lings only, then its definitely not the FF... usually if a zerg manages to macro properly (not beeing harrassed by mc-early-air-build) then he can get a bunch of infestors or maybe even ultralisks at the time toss has deathball

[MrComputerXO]

@ltran90 I wasn't talking about this game in particular. MC definatley got the upper hand during the harass. The situation i was thinking of was the infamous 4 gate into ff ur ramp into roflroflrofl. I play toss and on my feel-like-a-bastard-days I 4 gate every game, ff their ramp and make zergs rage quit. Its not the ff or the 4 gate that kills them usually its poor mechanics and lack of scouting but the potential of "lol i kill his army at his nat and just ff his ramp while i warp in" is lame.

[omgitsme2736]

wow that was amazing. perfect force fields

[Skeithization]

I can't really say that this is a good game, all it came down to was that Void Rays and Force-Fields.

[De4sher]

05:55 game start

[th3d0n123]

Everybody thinks that oGs MC just picked his name. No.....his name is how Asians pronounce orgasmic(ogsmc).

[sigurdtk15]

6.00 game starts.

[azir64]

Coke sponser?

[steffenborg]

Product placement much?

[truemenship]

Zerg is soft

[ncho0]

Has anyone actually seen Day9 and Apollo at the same time as Batman and Robin?

[NonRoker]

The astonishing blindness to the obvious imbalance of this matchup astounds me. MC is probably the better player. Placing down a line of "perfect" forcefields is extremely easy to do. Its easy becuase they don't actually need to be perfect.

This game is fundamentally flawed. I'm hoping they fix it the way they fixed Warcraft 3 with the Frozen Throne expansion. I'm still your fan Blizzard.

[Boracayalex]

oGs MC is OP!

[GummybearBleach]

cant enjoy sc2 with justin biber staring at me. fukin add

[KnocturneKnightmare]

@GummybearBleach resize the window to block that fucker out :)

[mounlolol]

@GummybearBleach Justin Bieber is the C&C world champion. Well, not the real justin Bieber. The one sitting next to day9.

[Teongose]

@GummybearBleach Full screen...

[Xiofang]

@GummybearBleach there's an x on the box to remove it....

[baggeghfreak]

@GummybearBleach adblock u retard

[hitman133295]

no overlapped FFs, almost dropped down at the same time. Oh man MC is the only one on the world that can do imba thing like that -____-

[Isiyac]

Wow... best force-field use I've ever seen.

[3Z3K13L08]

If something can be used "too" well like force fields, then it becomes OP. It's OP because no matter what the Zerg does, it's still an unfair advantage. It's not like Zerg can click their mouse super fast and counter the FF's, there's nothing they can do, NOTHING. Unless you buy TWO upgrades, yet Protoss don't have to buy any...

[TheStuntChicken]

@3Z3K13L08 You're fucking stupid. Don't act like you know shit. I hate noobs that cry about ballance...

[Diablo666Daemon666]

i hat people who use noob in the wrong context...but there you are doing it

[3Z3K13L08]

@TheStuntChicken Cool story bro.

[Diablo666Daemon666]

nah...thats just great use of what is there. you cant say its OP just because someone can use it really well.

however, in SC1 Terran were OP...and here theyre even more OP (apparently)

[weaselswithmeasles]

@3Z3K13L08 ur fucking diamond or below so stfu.

[3Z3K13L08]

@weaselswithmeasles A wild keyboard warrior appeared!! Would you like to: [ ] Argue [ ] Use Item [ ] Run Away [x] Not Give a Shit.

[weaselswithmeasles]

@3Z3K13L08 wow u put a lot of effort into that comment. i'd just not respond if i didn't give a shit. lawl keyboard warrior says the zerg QQer.

[xaroxero]

So...is that how we're supposed to use force fields? I'm not sure I can do that...ever.

[QuickfleX1990]

I don't know what it is but... I really want a Coke.

[letsgameguy]

@QuickfleX1990 i like that they are with 2 but have 3 bottels of cola

[Ghostxx10]

@QuickfleX1990 i no rite such a strange crave

[gorthorki]

@QuickfleX1990 oh cocaine...

[zling1111]

Dem force-fields 

[mankindvsu]

COCA COLA PRODUCT PLACEMENT

OH SHIT

[azngen1233]

sen should have played aggressive zerg Vs MC. i hope he learns that u shouldn't macro and reactive vs mc

[Limpedalong]

Coka-Cola MMMMMMM great product

[ftsj90]

he should have retreated when the FF were put off

[Fa1nTy]

@ftsj90 retreat and do what? Still lose because protoss is going to 200/200.

[ftsj90]

@Fa1nTy retreat ... and wait for the FF to wear off and re-engage again... if FF is being used again, pull back. heading on straight into FFs will only split your army apart.

[noaboa75]

@ftsj90 k so just forsake half of your army that has been trapped on the other side of the forcefields to die? seems balanced to me

[rayzor46]

ogsmc sounds like orgasmic.

[Equity213]

is day9 wearing eyeliner?