Battlefield 3 Myth Busting - Episode 7

[wickedSnD54]

myth! can you high 5 with a friendly jet?

[rasbuten84405]

Albino my friend did it 2 days ago to a javelin with a tank Idk if that's what u mean but it's possible

[RightClickGamers]

i heard an up and coming patch will remove the ability to detonate C4 after death and a bunch of other things that are too fun D:

[AlbinoToenail]

I know this is not a myth or anything but wouldn't be cool if your could blow up a rocket in mid-air with a high-enough caliber round to balance it out so you can't be a mega rocket denier with a 9mm

[zezimarules1]

LOL Fhrope i cant wait till the end of the month O.O then there will be epicness.,,

[kingmich15]

nice vid =D

[Bobitunnan]

0:50 wont be working after the next big patch thats coming:(

[alexbar10]

please test the flash suppressor to see if it keeps you off radar

[jokerisnomak]

awesome vid man, keep 'em coming!

[notahotshot]

You can place ammo or medkit in the back of the jeep. Do a drive by resupply.

[Failseeker0]

These vid r interesting and I'll b using the at on the jeep more often (troll face)

[dalgraff]

@fhrope

Not that I was aware of... On Kharg Island Conquest, I was in a tank (Obviously) and some medic ran into view, I tried to run him over but I missed... (Don't ask how) and the next thing I knew, he killed me with the grenade launcher... I was full health too, so I'm a bit confused still.

[Th3Acc0mplice]

If you aim up before firing the javelin at a tank (So the javelin hits the top of the tank) does it do more damage to the tank? Also, in Gulf of Oman you can fly through the buildings that are away from the combat zone but still in bounds for air vehicles?

[CrimsonFyre]

How about a more personal comment in regards to "myths" that are, or are not true. Out of what myths confirmed or busted do you feel should or shouldn't be in the game?

I never thought about the C4 one being detonated after death, but I do dislike that claymores stay. I suppose I'm too used to that from C.o.(shitty).D!

[chikchikboom1]

Just a note: you can control the direction you spawn with the beacon ONLY IF YOU PLACE THE BEACON OUTSIDE IN THE OPEN. if you place the beacon so the dish is facing North, for example, you will spawn on a parachute (in maps that have parachutes) facing South I.e. facing your beacon. You will spawn facing your beacon on the parachute.

[fhrope]

@chikchikboom1 doesn't matter how you face it. You always spawn North

[chikchikboom1]

@fhrope Yeh I could be mistaken on your heading when you spawn but as far as bearing goes, you always spawn in the direction the dish on the beacon is facing.

[needforspeed7777777]

@fhrope no u dont ive used it to contol where im facing so i can get onto a tower when sniping

[fhrope]

@needforspeed7777777 you might want to test it again

[MrLJ741]

You can troll your teammate if they steal your tank. Just put some c4 on the friendly tank and wait for an enemy explosive to set the c4 off.

[RavagerZero]

And while I'm at it, hopefully a fresh Javelin myth. Supposedly, due to their size, they can be destroyed by HMG rounds from a tank…

[fhrope]

@RavagerZero lol you are on quite the rampage :P I will try the HMG or other tank weapons to see if the javelin can be stopped. and the tank one, was this on hardcore or normal servers?

[RavagerZero]

Something I've been encountering a lot on console is tanks with full health & reactive armour being instantly destroyed by enemy tanks firing from behind, without the aid of C4. In addition, hits from underneath the tank: do they do more damage?

Another Myth I'd like to see tested is that hitting a tank directly in the engine (top rear for Abrams, lower rear for T-90 I believe) or in the turret ring (gap between hull and turret) is an instant disable, regardless of health & reactive armour.

[W4lly16]

I found out the other day you can blow up an allie jet. I was playing Conquest on Caspian Border and tried to spawn in the jet at the very beginning of the game. It put someone else in it and this other player and I standing on top. So, messing around I put down an ammo crate and a bunch of C4 just for the hell of it. My teammate took off and I flew backward but stayed alive. I was curious, so I just had to detonate that C4 to see what, if anything, would happen. It turns out my teammate was...

[W4lly16]

@W4lly16 blown to smithereens and I was left in amazement and laughing my ass off as I saw his jet crashing into the ground.

[lolz649]

Next episode?

[fhrope]

@lolz649 episode 8 ;)

[dalgraff]

New one: You can insta-kill a tank with a Grenade launcher from behind. Some guy did that to me.

[fhrope]

@dalgraff did you have c4 on your tank?

[qPlung]

Surely someone noted already, but I've seen one of my stingers actually change targets. I locked jet A and shot, it went after it, jet B flew in between the rocket and its target and the missile went after jet B who soon flared and I got no hits. Jet A flared way before, that's why I was shooting at him in the first place.

[fhrope]

@qPlung there was something similar happening when testing the stingers myth. Im not sure how they coded it but I've been trying to find out

[TheJTFSFC]

I gotta myth that needs busting. My mate claims you can put a soflam on top of a jet then take of with it on there and it allows you to fire heatseekers at ground targets and decreases lock on time for air vechiles (i would prove it myself but i cant fly for shit so havent unlocked heatseekers).

[PaintballHazard]

@TheJTFSFC If I get to it, I'll test it. Do you mean putting your own SOFLAM on your own jet, or someone else putting their SOFLAM on your jet? Sounds like the first so I'll test that. The main question is whether or not it will stay on.

[TheJTFSFC]

@PaintballHazard I dont think it matter, also could you test if the SOFLAM allows Jets/choppers to lock onto ground vechiles

[PaintballHazard]

@TheJTFSFC I am assuming you mean locking on with Anti-Aircraft missiles to ground vehicles. I do know that the SOFLAM allows the Guided Missile on the jet to attack aircraft though.

[lakerking1999]

do u have ps3??? if do send me an friend request terriblealexj2



[TheF3eredkiller]

@fhrope do you ever plan on coming to xbox

[tukiff13]

fhrope you are awesome

[fhrope]

@tukiff13 no you're awesome!

[lakerking1999]

@tukiff13 ahhhhh no im awesomer

[nothingnessx2]

the c4 pickup and the c4 after death should be switched up. That shit is stupid. Great stuff people

[sadeca7]

when is number 8 coming out

[fhrope]

@sadeca7 gonna be a couple weeks at least. I've been really busy and I hurt my back so I've been resting on top of it all. But I have been collecting some more unique myths

[jakester1124]

Can someone please tell me what map the rocket jump myth is at in the video

[fhrope]

@jakester1124 damavand peak on rush

[JuicySand]

myth: can u c the players eye through the sniper scope and can u also shoot through it for a headshot

[iHappyHarrison]

can you shoot through you team mate to kill another enemy try this please

[RealCadde]

Here is something that you can test...

"You can stop an RPG mid flight by throwing an ammo box or med pack in it's path"

I know this will work because the med/ammo boxes registers as hitboxes.

[RealCadde]

Let me just do a quick explanation why you always face north with radio beacons...

In programming, you are facing one of 360 degrees and looking either 90 degrees up or 90 degrees down. When the game initializes the soldier it is facing 0 degrees. (which consequently is North or looking down the positive Z axis in a Right Handed coordinate system)

0 is the "default" value, all variables are initialized to 0 thus you face 0 degrees because of it.

Though i think they should fix that.

[BeatzzzVideos]

last myth(the C4 one),if he kills you as another class,picks up 'your' (stolen) kit,would he be able to detonate his own C4 he placed earlier?

[TheCyberFlint]

can you get into a EOD bot when you are inside a helicopter? or a MAV?

[EpicPigChops]

myth: can a falling: ammo box, health pack OR EOD bot kill someone?

[martyroza]

@spadecodezor yes, I had to find that out the hard way in hardcore with a friendly jet :(

[martyroza]

@mrmagiclegend of course u will die (u think u would survive if a antenna will fall right on your head?????).

[martyroza]

@ricardo7250 yes they can, just fly very high

[martyroza]

Myth: can a EOD bot falling of damavand peak kill someone???

[Ricardo7250]

myth:can a helicopter do a front flip?

[MrMagiclegend]

You die when you get under the attanna in Caspian Border?

[MrMagiclegend]

@MrMagiclegend when it goes down btw

[RealCadde]

@MrMagiclegend Yes, it's a "killer box". Touch it and you die. That box moves at the same rate as the antenna.

There is a large one on Damavand Peak too over the tunnel. Touch it and you take damage.

[theDarkLAKAKuraiL]

myth: yesterday i managed to equip a grenade, holding it on the hand just like CS, is that a glitch or is that possible?

[theDarkLAKAKuraiL]

@LOLyouzM4d

yes, there is a description for it. It says that suppressor reduces velocity that means faster bullet drop and weaker power. cmiiw

@Someonecoolish

Yes you can. But the knifed victim will still die from "Bad Luck" instead of being killed. Tried it in PS3

[TheBluedragon1221]

well with rasio beacans one team spawns south and one north i think

[Someonecoolish]

myth:You can save your teammate when an enemy is knifing him by SHOOTING! I know it's been tryd with knifing the enemy but with gun.

[RealCadde]

@Someonecoolish Already been done.

[xxaznposerxx]

I was in a tank and a grenade blew me up :|

how is that possible

[RealCadde]

@xxaznposerxx Was the tank damaged. Grenades do damage to tanks but very little, enough to finish a already burning tank (~1 to 4 percent HP) off.

[teen3564]

If you get a chance, try this: With 1 respawn ticket for your team if you kill yourself with C4 you won't die or explode but round will end

[RealCadde]

@teen3564 Tickets are reduced when people spawn in from being dead. I don't see how this would be possible.

If neither team has ticket bleed a valid tactic is to NOT spawn if you die and you can win.

[teen3564]

@RealCadde First off damn, you went on a replying spree... 2nd Battlefield 3s respawn system is actually the second you lose your health, a ticket is removed. and Im pretty sure once you reach the menu where you can choose your class, you've already died and cant be revived.

[RealCadde]

@teen3564 No I am 100% sure it's when people spawn and has been like that since BF2.

It's common knowledge for all members of 21cw (A BF3 tournament) to know this as many games have been won in the past with a "DO NOT SPAWN" order to make up for a ticket disadvantage. Best i have seen was a comeback from 22-87, that game ended 2-0 tickets for us. Only those that was critically needed was allowed to spawn to hold the 2 flags we owned and keep the third (middle) flag at LEAST neutral.

[FaRcRyKiNg1]

@teen3564 no, u can still be revived even at the screen where u choose a class.

[archdukematt]

Does the black blast of any of the rocket launchers cause damage?

[shotmeonsightplease]

@archdukematt Sadly, no...

That would be hilarious though, one of them got a 30 meter or something kill radius behind them. But imagine the crying!

[L0LyouzM4d]

this might be a stupid question but it feels to me like suppressed weapons do less damage, but the description for the attachment only says it increases bullet drop. Could you test this or could someone tell me if im stupid or not? haha

[FLiPGeNSnipeZ]

@L0LyouzM4d no the suppressor also reduces range meaning doing less damage at distances

[RealCadde]

@L0LyouzM4d It's possible that less velocity = less damage. Bullets slow down over distance and certain snipers rifles kill with one shot close range and only does between 90 and 99% damage at range

[AzackR189]

myth if you are locked can you use fire from burning vehicles or other burning things as ir flares?

[RealCadde]

@AzackR189 No, it does not have any effect on locking. They could test it but i am certain of this. Plus, if you drive out of your smoke any fired missiles will hit the smoke as long as it remains

[feradaling]

how many headshots can you make with an rpg?

[RealCadde]

@feradaling One. Headshots only count if the fired projectile hits the head mesh. If you are killed with a headshot it literally means the projectile impacted the polygons that make up your head.

[BestleyStudios]

Shoot mortar/rpg/grenade/javelin out of air with javelin,explosives,guns,etc...

[RealCadde]

@BestleyStudios Neither is possible. The shells are virtual objects, they don't have any physics in object space.

[shadowfungi]

myth: smoke grenading a tank that is getting locked on to will block the lock

[RealCadde]

@shadowfungi Good one, this should be tested.

[soldierz007]

myth: is it possible to destroy the anti air gun friendly/enemy gun please

[Aituu]

@soldierz007

yes it is - use a good amount of C4

[Harrkongen]

@soldierz007 only if u place c4 on it.

[RealCadde]

@Harrkongen Not only, it can be destroyed by doing SEVERE amounts of damage to it. C4 does a LOT of damage.

Crashing a helicopter into it will also destroy it as an example.

[GirlPainting]

1. can you drop mines from a transport helicopter on a tank and kill him?

2. can you drop claymores from a transport helicopter on an enemy and kill him?

3. can you knife someone inside a jeep/stationary emplaced weapon?

4. can you noscope a oneshot kill with a sniper rifle without a headshot on close range?

5. can you survife a fall from a high distance by entering a vehicle on the ground?

[vjt960]

@GirlPainting

1. yes

2. no

3. yes, but not an execution

4. yes

5. yes but you must be really quick

[RealCadde]

@GirlPainting

1. Yes

2. Possibly (If you have a target to place the claymore at)

4. Yes, with the M98B, L96, M40A5 rifles. (possibly the SV98 too)

5. Yes, hold the "enter vehicle" key as you fall.

[bobrobrules]

do javelins do more damage if you look up just before firing without laser designation?

[vjt960]

@bobrobrules no, the game registers the extra damage when targeting a designated vehicle

[RealCadde]

@bobrobrules Yes, as long as the trajectory makes the javelin missile hit the top of the vehicle. At long range it doesn't matter much.

[robthatguyx]

you should make a epic trolling video of you and like a whole squad just trollin epicly hard to the other team

[blackbird335068]

can put c4 on a jet or heli and switch teams will it work

[SuperSupadude]

fhrope that myth about the spawn beacon you don't always spawn facing north you spawn facing the opposite direction you were facing when you placed it. For example say you were standing in front of a tank if you place a spawn beacon while looking at the tank when you spawn you will be looking away from the tank.

[fhrope]

@SuperSupadude nah, I tried this myth for 10 minutes spawning and It doesn't matter where you place it. You always spawn north

[whitewhitewolf]

Is it possible to kill someone by dropping a MAV on them if they are standing still?

[RealCadde]

@whitewhitewolf No, the velocity is what kills the target. Downward velocity isn't high enough to damage the solider, only forward velocity is great enough to do that.

[pjlh1995]

is it possible to retaliate when an enemy is knifing u?

[RealCadde]

@pjlh1995 No it is not.

[PaintballHazard]

About the last myth of blowing up an enemy's C4, try this:

Enemy places C4

You kill enemy

Pick their kit up

Lay down 1 C4 from their kit

Blow it up

[RealCadde]

@PaintballHazard The C4 is linked to the player, not the kit.

In BF2 it was the other way around. You could "herd" several specops kits and blow each in sequence.

[kwebbelkop]

I have a myth, "You can run faster when you bunny hop."

[RealCadde]

@kwebbelkop BUSTED, just try it yourself...

[Ragnort]

About the whole, you not being able to detonate the opponents C4 by picking their kit up.

If after you've picked their kit up and attempted to detonate it, can the person that initially placed the C4 respawn and still detonate the C4?

[fhrope]

@Ragnort yes they can

[chologonzalo999]

What about the myth about targeting a tank with soflam and hiting it with a stinger? THATS A VERY INTERESTING MYTH!!

[RealCadde]

@chologonzalo999 Stingers do not lock onto SOFLAM targets. They lock onto the vehicle.

[erogone]

Can you shoot grenades and rockets in the air to make em explode?

[GreyFox23]

Question: If the enemy C4's a vehicle, can you save it by blowing up the C4 before the enemy does?

[thibodeauxj12]

@GreyFox23 yes you can

[Vafler86]

I have been wondering if perk expl makes your frag rounds more deadlier, and perk flak makes you more tolerable to them?

[RealCadde]

@Vafler86 Flak makes you take less splash damage. Explosive gives you double the amount of explosives (grenades excluded, there is a grenade perk for that)

[maikal1997]

Myth : BF3 is better than COD MW3

Oh im sorry thats not a myth.

We already know its true.

[aclameus]

Myth: you can break those cuffs.

[bluespandas]

hey look at the c4 look at it... draws pistol and executes him i was on the floor when i saw that

[PointlessVidsInc]

at mine doesnt work for me on xbox

[Kloetee]

Myth: you can jump over a buggy wich is driving dowards you without getting damaged!

[RealCadde]

@Kloetee If you jump high enough... Which you can't without some kind of assistance.

[japanmanwhiteboy]

TEST THIS MYTH: the explosion from a spawn beacon can kill an enemy.

[RealCadde]

@japanmanwhiteboy Exploding med kits and ammo bags can kill. As a sniper (M98B) i have hit several medics in the body in HC (brings their HP down to 98%) and they place their med bag. Shoot it = kill.

[No1Victim]

if I spawn as support, plant few blocks of c4. die, respawn as a differnt class like assult, kill a few pepople, and die again. then respawn as supprot. will my c4 still be there and will I be able to detonate them?

[RealCadde]

@No1Victim Yes, as long as nobody removes the C4 (explosion, vehicle death etc) the C4 can be detonated at a later time.

[RealCadde]

@No1Victim Additionally, med packs, ammo boxes and mines stay as you switch kits.

If you place a med pack it will stay there til someone destroys it or you throw another.

Even as you leave the server

[deogrou]

Would be cool if that last myth would actually work :) I can already think of some cool ways to kill dem noobs :D

[whiteraven09]

myth: when using support class (or is it engineer) you can remove enemy C4?

[RealCadde]

@whiteraven09 It's not a myth and you know it. Engineers can remove enemy mines and C4 by holding "R". It even says so when you walk up to enemy mines/C4.

[Louismanbeast]

Myth: when firing a stinger at an enemy heli and a friendly heli lets off flares it will stop the rocket

[DC5064]

@Louismanbeast They did just test that in this video.

[spadecodezor]

Myth: when firing a locked anti air missile from the ground. If a different, closer target comes in will the missile follow the closer target?

[RealCadde]

@spadecodezor No, it can hit another target in flight and detonate and when flares are deployed it can (occasionally) switch to another target and kill that instead.

[orohimeful]

What is rocket jumping?

[PatrikCOH]

@orohimeful You jump and whilst you're in air you shoot a rocket on the ground so the explosion will give you speed

[RealCadde]

@orohimeful The first instances of the technique dubbed "rocket jumping" came into existance in Quake 1 where a rocket blast would push a player away from the impact area.

Was "abused" to gain height

[KittehHawk]

@fhrope Does sprinting make you show up on your enemies mini-map?

[RealCadde]

@KittehHawk No. You show up when you fire a (non silenced) weapon, get "q spotted" or are within a scanners range. If you see an enemy sprinting on the mini map it's because he has been spotted prior.

[stoopid7ful]

myth: you can place c4 on a parachute

[ForeRunnerVids]

@krikavkaCOOL patience i have 8 subs i have patience he has like 1,000!

[ForeRunnerVids]

@fhrope you gonna try the myth?

[fhrope]

@ForeRunnerVids Which one O.o?

[Troublemaker676]

@fhrope can you fly a helicopter upside down?

[RealCadde]

@Troublemaker676 *sigh* no, you could try this yourself but there is no negative thrust. (BF uses thrust, not blade angle to produce lift)

Certain mods in BF2 made it possible however (neg. thrust)

[myFragx3]

@fhrope if one guy lays c4, u kill him pick his c4, let him kill u, he takes his kit back and detonate it

[ForeRunnerVids]

srry @fhrope

[fhrope]

@ForeRunnerVids s'all good

[ForeRunnerVids]

@fhropeMyth: You Can hit a helicopter with a jet blow it up but not blow up your jet.

I have done this before i want to see if you can do it :)

[TheOnlyMCMallett]

@alchemistxblood. ECM works on heat-seekers. If you are moving side to side or running away from the missile, it will miss. Holding still or flying into the missile will result in a hit. Do note this doesn't work on laser guided missiles. This makes IR flares completely inferior to ECM.

[fhrope]

@TheOnlyMCMallett ECM does work on Guided missiles you just need to use it before it gets fired so you lose the paint

[5THunderlord]

@fhrope ECM does also work on fired guided missiles. Since the missile needs the hard lock from the laser, losing the lock will cause it fly where the lock was the moment before it broke.

[MROKAY6]

WHAT BUT HOW, my c4 always goes after i die, wtf, it never worked!!!

[MoarOfMe]

Hi. Thanks for mythbusting. Here's my question:

Does all the rubble from destroyed buildings, all the movable containers and cardboard boxes stay on the same place for each player?

You can hide in them and shoot through them so nobody can't see you. You can plant a mine or claymore and then move the box and hide the explosives but this won't work if all that boxes an rubble places are syncronised with the server.

[RealCadde]

@MoarOfMe Rubble that came off a building is the same for all players (this is scripted and deterministic)

As for cardboard boxes however it is not, they will be close but not 100% all the time.

[MoarOfMe]

@RealCadde Thanks for the answer )

[ger962]

but if the enemy dies after he planted c4 and you picked up his kit, can he detonate the c4 when he spawns?

[fhrope]

@ger962 Yes he can :)

[Michael55fication]

my myth! yay ^^

[ChlomirxAzz]

Are you playing In pc or laptop ? sorry bad english still study

[Celestintamarre]

Myth : The damage per bullet depends of the stance of the victim you are shooting at.

i.e : a guy receiving an m98b bullet will suffer more damage when prone because the bullet will go through his shoulders, torso,hip since they are aligned when he is prone.

Can also be tested with shotgun slugs

[RealCadde]

@Celestintamarre Bullet damage is calculated on the polygons that are hit where the normal has a less than 90 degree angle. Hitting the arm AND torso means you get two hits registered.

[RealCadde]

@Celestintamarre If the bullet enters through the upper torso and exits through the foot only the torso registers. the polygons normals are facing away from the bullets vector and thus will not reg.

[Tohob]

in the beta the radio beacon spawned you facing left of the direction you were facing when you dropped it

[deadly1010P]

c4 detonate after death? bs

[bubbamt37]

Can you sky dive into an empty helicopter without pulling your shoot?

[MrDendari]

@fhrope What about the ECM Jammer? It has the same effect as the Flares on fired missiles?

[alchemistxblood]

@MrDendari ecm jammer only applies to a SINGLE aircraft and its used so that people cant lock on to you for a short period of time. flares are used once you are locked on and a missile is tailing you. so if you had an ecm jammer and a missile was after you and you used the ecm jammer you would still get hit

[joker28666]

if u soot sum1 in de hed dey don aways dai

[krikavkaCOOL]

When is new episode coming? Youre awesome guys!!!!

[fhrope]

@krikavkaCOOL O.o, This was the new episode lol.