The explosive charge on a torpedo itself would be unable to cut a ship in half - it actually works by an interesting side effect. A perfect torpedo "hit" would detonate almost directly *under* the midpoint of the ship, and not impact the hull. The pressure/temperature from the explosion vaporizes a significant volume of water directly beneath the ship, so the middle of the ship is sitting "on air" and the ends of the ship cannot support the middle.
Several months ago certain individuals commenting about this video mentioned the VA-111 Shkval high speed underwater rocket which was developed in the USSR for the Soviet Navy and deployed in 1977, and there seems to be very much hype/exaggeration involved with this weapon. It is not and never was a torpedo. It is not and never was a primary Russian submarine launched weapon as some seem to believe(these are 53-65K anti-ship, USET-80 universal, and TEST-71 wire guided torpedoes).
Shkval has no accoustic guidance system like most modern torpedoes, such a system with the current design is impossible, its own(very loud) noise would block the detection of other accoustic signatures. It can accelerate to high(300+km/h) speeds underwater for a short period of time, the design of the propulsion system does not allow Shkval to use wire guidance. Shkval has an internal course correction device which allows it to follow a preset trajectory once launched from a submarine/ship.
Using the course correction device Shkval can only be used effectively against surfaced submarines or ships moving at a slow speed in a predictable pattern, if the target changes its direction and speed the Shkval will simply miss its target. To increase the probability of sinking the target the VA-111 has to be launched at distances of around 5km from the target, within range of ASW weapons and helicopters on/near the target. This increases the risk the attacker will itself be sunk.
This means the Shkval is only effective against slow moving mostly unarmed ships and almost useless against submarines(mainly because the VA-111's attack depth is only a few meters underwater). The high speed is not very useful without the ability to independently track the target.
Another problem with the VA-111 Shkval - it is not produced within the territory of the Russian Federation.
The distance from target seems to be less than 5km in the 1st torpedo clip. All 3 torpedoes I assume were wire guided.
Now imagine trying to achieve these results with old style unguided torpedoes when the targets would be moving. The need to do this could appear for several reasons.
1. A low priority target with a lower value than the torpedo(new wire guided torpedoes cost up to 10 million USD).
2. Problems with torpedo guidance - these could be technical or related to anti-torpedo decoys.
During the 1982 Falklands War both the Argentinians and British had problems with their torpedoes. Argentinian German made SST-4 torpedoes had numerous failures, at least 1 failed to hit its target(a British Warship) because its guidance system was fooled by a towed decoy(the British did not even detect the attack). Then 6 US made Mk-46 anti-submarine torpedoes launched from British helicopters failed to hit their target(Argentinian Submarine).
Additional problems appeared with the British Mk-24 Tigerfish, which continuously missed its targets during testing, poor reliability forced the British Royal Navy to rely on a torpedo design that was over 50 years old in 1982 - the Mk-8 unguided torpedo. These torpedoes sunk the old Argentinian Cruiser "General Belgrano". They were reliable, but if I remember correctly the British Nuclear Submarine "Conqueror" was forced to approach within 3km to hit its target, similar to WW2 tactics.
Image to stay on a ship in the middle of Atlantic during the 2ww and being attacked by a U-Boot with a weapon like this...with no one can help u (if still alive)---frightening --i couldn't image torpedos were so destructive :-|
@doyle8550; 2nd world war torpedoes were not quite as powerful as the modern ones seen here, but I get your point, it is - and was - a terrible weapon.
its interesting to know torpedos dont actully "blow shit up" directy. They actully travel underneath ships and are triggered by an Electro magnetic pulse given of my the moving water and metal ie the ship and consintrate there explosion upward which pushes the ship up out of the water. The ship snaps its self in half when it hits the water ie the ships weight actully breaks its self in half...
I wonder if now adays they can select what distance they want to detonate the torpedo from the target in order to maximize its effective range and/or vary its level of damage.
Bear McCreary and the Battlestar Galactica soundtrack, FTW!
Some of these comments remind me of why we need these weapons. Barely sentient animals that can't even control themselves in a YouTube video comment thread, let alone in everyday life. "You attacked me!" "No you attacked me!" "No, you attacked me." I'm reminded of a group of monkeys flinging poo at each other going "Oot! Oot!" Pathetic.
The first torpedo was in fact were naval mines, which are dragged behind boats on the long barges and detonated them when they are found under the hull of enemy ships. Later, in the American civil war of such mines have been asked long sticks in front of the bow of the ship and detonated them when the enemy approached the boat.
Torpedo shape and any organization we know today was invented by a retired Croatian officer of the Navy of the Austro Hungary, Ivan Lupis, the 1860th
Giovanni Luppis (Ivan Lupis in the croation form of the name) was born in Rijeka, Croatia in 1813 , studied at the naval academy of Venice, Italy, joined the Austrian-Hungarian Navy , reached the rank of a commander and developed the first self-propelled torpedo in 1860.
He have Italian roots, but he felt like a Croat because he was born in the Rijeka Croatia year 1814.
In America there is a large community of Americans of Italian roots, whether you call them Italians they will be offended because they are proud to be Americans. Although they are not ashamed of their ancestors if you call them any other way you will have big problems possibly even attack.
In America there are many Americans of Italian roots, call them Italians, and they will be offended. They are proud of their ancestor, but they are proud to be Americans.
Do you wonder why Ivan Lupis dosent served the Italian Navy, but the Austro-Hungarian.
They fought against each other for supremacy in the Adriatic Sea.
Maybe because he wanted to serve his homeland of Croatia which was then part of Austria-Hungary Empire.
Giovanni Biagio Luppisa known as Ivan Lupis (Rijeka, January 28, 1814th - Torriggia January 11, 1875.), Naval officer in the Austro-Hungary
He was commander of the Austrian frigate "Venus." He invented the 1860th The built torpedo, which was later perfected British engineer Robert Whitehead. As a result of successful inventions 1873rd was established, a torpedo factory, "Whitehead & Co.. Rijeka Croatia. Since 1880th The Lupis-Whitehead torpedo became a standard weapon developed navies.
Croatia was in that time in Austrian-Hungarian empire, Have you asked your self why Lupis served the Austrian-Hungarian navy and not Italian. They fought each other for supremacy in the Adriatic sea, because he served his homeland.
Several nuclear torpedo warheads and nuclear depth charges were developed during the 1950's and 60's but as far as i know neither the USA nor Russia has any of them in service anymore.
They were among the first things to be phased out at the end of the cold war or simply got axed by disarmament agreements beginning in the 80's.
The ASROC launcher system (A)nti-(S)ubmarine (ROC)ket for instance was deployed by the u.s navy in 1961 with the primary purpose to deliver Mark 46 torpedoes and depth charges via a rocket over a safety distance in very short time.
A variant of the Mark 46 torpedo was equipped with a 10 kiloton nuclear warhead for destroying enemy submarines.
This warhead and all types of nuclear depth charges supposed to be delivered by ASROC were taken out of service by 1989.
I'm arguing with a guy on another video on how torps detonate, he seems to have the false belief they only detonate on impact. Wasn't this the idea back in WWII?
Do subs these days even need to rise to periscope depth to attack a surface target, or can they just fire off a torp. at lower depths and have it arc upwards?
If there is a good sonar detection, like accurate range and course, they can stay submerged, and use the sonar to detect whether it detonated, broke up on impact or missed
ich frag mich ob da nicht eine winzigkeit zu großzügig mit dem sprengstoff umgegangen wurde,drei gramm weniger und der ausgang wäre zweifelsohne der gleiche
Der Torpedo ist schließlich eine Standard Waffe und würde im ernstfall gegen einfach alles eingesetzt.
Vom kleinen Diesel Uboot bis zum großen Atom Uboot, von der Fregatte zum Flugzeugträger, vom kleinen 1000 tonnen Küsten Handelsschiff zum riesen Hochsee 150.000 tonnen Containerschiff steht alles auf der Torpedo Speisekarte.
Dementsprechend muss er eine eher große Zerstörungskraft haben da man ja auf größere Ziele planen muss.
da muss ich dir in modernen zeiten leider wiedersprechen, zumindest teilweise, es gibt heute bei der klasse 212a beispielsweise universaltorpedos, die werden im fall wie von dir beschrieben benutzt, es gibt auch Mark torpedos deren sprengkraft ans ziel angepasst wird, im besonderen fall wenn der angriff geplant ist.
wie in diesem fall, aber recht hast du schon, der torpedo muss universal einsetzbar bleiben und somit höchstmögliche wirkung vorweisen können
All fluids can indeed be compressed, including water.
Water may not change its mass when it gets compressed but it changes its density !.
For instance :
Sea water with a temperature of 10 degrees Celsius and a salt content of 35% has a density of 1.027 kg/cmb at a depth of 10 meters. In 1000 meters of depth it has a density of 1.031,43 kg/cbm.
Do you know wether it has the same temperature or do you get this result because seawater in a depth of 10 metres is warmer (or colder) than the water in a bigger depth ?
Liquids are compressible, but to a FAR lesser extent than gases. For simplicity in calculations, liquids are often approximated to be incompressible, but this is not exactly correct.
PS: Fluid is not a synonym of liquid. Fluids include gases, plasmas and even some solids.
A torpedo is harder to detect. Yes, they can be detected, but most of the time you are already to late. The missiles are rather vulnerable to AA fire (phalanx, goalkeeper etc)
Depending on the target, sometimes they can be detected before it's even fired, like from the sound of the torpedo tubes flooding, and the sound of the doors opening
no we still have them , i was a torpedoman in 79 and then they were working with the asroc basically a rocket power torpedoe thet flew to the target and put out a chute then droped in the water then went into search mode
I heard that Asroc recieved some upgrades in 1990 and is still in service today.
The german navy had the Asroc system on the Lütjens class destroyers (Charles F. Adams) bought in 1969. But the system was retired along with the ships in 2003.
Too big crew, too much time involved...in future one person can handle all the procedures (selecting target(s), pressing the button), computers does held most of them. Sub has crew of max 10 persons and numerous small drones around it as independent defense, warning and attacking systems...
Torpedo's don't know how deep a submarine is until it actually acquires the target via active sonar. The Shkval is definately the fastest weapon, but not the most advanced, just cause it can move quickly doesn't mean it can track anything. moving at 300 knots it cannot track anything using active sonar. And by the looks of it, it doesn't have a transducer that would allow it to use active sonar either. It was developed to use a nuclear payload, and allow the firing ship to get away quickly.
It cannot intercept the incoming torpedo, it's just used to counter-attack to force the attacking submarine to evade, and possibly break their guidance wire. It can't use any kind of active sonar since the high speeds and lack of being actually submerged would make it impossible to track anything.
Current production Shkval IS Unguided. The new version currently UNDER DEVELOPMENT has a guidance system but only when the Shkval slows to a non supercavitating speed. In otherwords when it becomes like a normal torpedo. And it is NOT EVER USED in an Anti-topedo defense mode. it is used against other vessels, not against other torpedoes.
I did get some "edumaction". I also served in the US Navy. I know exactly what Terminal guidance is. My job in the navy had everything to do with knowing the guidance systems of various weapons that could be employed against US ships.
Yeah and I'm fucking Napoleon. Don't make statements you can't back up on the net.
A real Navy man wouldn't mistake terminal guidance for something else, unless you were discharged for being a god damn fool.
I'm an anti-US troll for commenting on a Russian piece of technology? I wonder what topsy turvy world you live in where you defame a Russian piece of technology and call me an anti-US troll.
Shkval torpedo s has speed about 300m/s meters per second. This is most deadly antiship weapon in the world. Torpido run under water in a vacum tube. /thats why speed is so high. In a middle of 90 and 2000 been several spy scandals. Russian intelegent catched some western spys before thay succeed.
The HK P11 underwater pistol for the german combat divers for instance fires six supercavitating darts and is in production since 1976.
A german company named Diehl has produced a supercaviating torpedo aswell but it is just a technology demonstrator and wasnt ordered by the military so far.
The company claims that the "Barracuda" is guidable, has homing capability, can be launched from submarines and from the air and has a speed of 400 km/h.
Although it's not really fair to compare military dominance between strongly allied nations, because they're not ever going to need to worry about fighting each other.
Look, n00b. The US has pretty cool stuff, but there are other countries out there that are making stuff just as potent or more potent than what the US currently has. I Submit the VA-111 Shkval, the P270 Moskit, the Eurofighter Typhoon, the Saab Gripen, and the list could go on. It's pretty ignorant to say the US has superior tech all around.
as a submariner i'll just tell you that this video is a standard torpedo explosion, it detonates below the keel and essentially breaks the back of the ship by displacing water underneath it. And the US does have the most advanced torpedoes currently.
So the torpedo can also collect sonar data while on the way to its target and send it back to the uboat.
Sonar drones are not required in combat any longer, the torpedo now does both jobs on its own.
At the same time, the sonar computers of the uboat can supply the torpedo with data that assists it in differing between a noisemaker torpedo counter-measure and a real enemy sub.
This lessens the overall effectiveness of enemy counter-measures.
Indeed. The era of battleships is over since their obvious inability to assert in ww2.
Since then remaining ones were only used for artillery support purposes against enemies who did not possess a own navy like the Korean War of 1950 to 1953.
It would be the aircraft carrier, submarine is a good terror weapon, but an aircraft carrier can do pretty much anything, depending on what planes it carries
My Dad woke up one night and yelled. He saw footage of his ship being blown to hell. Wow bad dreams with slow motion. I don't know it this scares the crap out of a Navy guy or makes them pround. I'm impressed
I never thought torpedo's did that much damage, splitting a ship in half shit
StrykerFarAwayIn707 1 month ago
@StrykerFarAwayIn707
The explosive charge on a torpedo itself would be unable to cut a ship in half - it actually works by an interesting side effect. A perfect torpedo "hit" would detonate almost directly *under* the midpoint of the ship, and not impact the hull. The pressure/temperature from the explosion vaporizes a significant volume of water directly beneath the ship, so the middle of the ship is sitting "on air" and the ends of the ship cannot support the middle.
GordonWorldwide 1 month ago
ridiculous how much effort humans put in to destroying things
sasfcps 3 months ago
very bloody scary! What will they come up with next?
hurch1975 5 months ago
Shit
yuuniee 6 months ago
As Bomb becomes bigger, wars become smaller.
makemap 7 months ago
The Torpedo. The reason no one wants to join the Navy.
Blazenwave 9 months ago 3
OMG
GOUGOUNETTE 1 year ago
..I would hate to police call that...
hellsummon 1 year ago
Several months ago certain individuals commenting about this video mentioned the VA-111 Shkval high speed underwater rocket which was developed in the USSR for the Soviet Navy and deployed in 1977, and there seems to be very much hype/exaggeration involved with this weapon. It is not and never was a torpedo. It is not and never was a primary Russian submarine launched weapon as some seem to believe(these are 53-65K anti-ship, USET-80 universal, and TEST-71 wire guided torpedoes).
Maloross 1 year ago
Shkval has no accoustic guidance system like most modern torpedoes, such a system with the current design is impossible, its own(very loud) noise would block the detection of other accoustic signatures. It can accelerate to high(300+km/h) speeds underwater for a short period of time, the design of the propulsion system does not allow Shkval to use wire guidance. Shkval has an internal course correction device which allows it to follow a preset trajectory once launched from a submarine/ship.
Maloross 1 year ago
Using the course correction device Shkval can only be used effectively against surfaced submarines or ships moving at a slow speed in a predictable pattern, if the target changes its direction and speed the Shkval will simply miss its target. To increase the probability of sinking the target the VA-111 has to be launched at distances of around 5km from the target, within range of ASW weapons and helicopters on/near the target. This increases the risk the attacker will itself be sunk.
Maloross 1 year ago
This means the Shkval is only effective against slow moving mostly unarmed ships and almost useless against submarines(mainly because the VA-111's attack depth is only a few meters underwater). The high speed is not very useful without the ability to independently track the target.
Another problem with the VA-111 Shkval - it is not produced within the territory of the Russian Federation.
Maloross 1 year ago
The distance from target seems to be less than 5km in the 1st torpedo clip. All 3 torpedoes I assume were wire guided.
Now imagine trying to achieve these results with old style unguided torpedoes when the targets would be moving. The need to do this could appear for several reasons.
1. A low priority target with a lower value than the torpedo(new wire guided torpedoes cost up to 10 million USD).
2. Problems with torpedo guidance - these could be technical or related to anti-torpedo decoys.
Maloross 1 year ago
During the 1982 Falklands War both the Argentinians and British had problems with their torpedoes. Argentinian German made SST-4 torpedoes had numerous failures, at least 1 failed to hit its target(a British Warship) because its guidance system was fooled by a towed decoy(the British did not even detect the attack). Then 6 US made Mk-46 anti-submarine torpedoes launched from British helicopters failed to hit their target(Argentinian Submarine).
Maloross 1 year ago
Additional problems appeared with the British Mk-24 Tigerfish, which continuously missed its targets during testing, poor reliability forced the British Royal Navy to rely on a torpedo design that was over 50 years old in 1982 - the Mk-8 unguided torpedo. These torpedoes sunk the old Argentinian Cruiser "General Belgrano". They were reliable, but if I remember correctly the British Nuclear Submarine "Conqueror" was forced to approach within 3km to hit its target, similar to WW2 tactics.
Maloross 1 year ago
These tests are more scripted than a presidential debate, people.
cochranexyz 1 year ago
was für ein lied ist das
Marvin5673 1 year ago
@Marvin5673
Battlestar Galactica Season 1 Soundtrack.
Der Song heißt The Olympic Carrier
Celeon999A 1 year ago
Poor guys in the ship, they don't deserve that. :(
Joshrules599 1 year ago
@Joshrules599
:-D There is usually nobody aboard the target ships when a torpedo gets tested. Would be unhealthy :-D
Celeon999A 1 year ago 24
@Joshrules599 This is a decommissioned Norwegian cruiser wich is used as a target for the norwegian torpedo-test!
tomviktor1978 1 year ago
@Joshrules599 Thats fish blood in case anyone is wondering..
zackthewiseguy86 11 months ago
Image to stay on a ship in the middle of Atlantic during the 2ww and being attacked by a U-Boot with a weapon like this...with no one can help u (if still alive)---frightening --i couldn't image torpedos were so destructive :-|
doyle8550 1 year ago
@doyle8550; 2nd world war torpedoes were not quite as powerful as the modern ones seen here, but I get your point, it is - and was - a terrible weapon.
mateuszmattias 1 year ago
@mateuszmattias WWII torpedoes and current ones have similar warhead sizes,
the main difference is, modern ones do not miss, and they detonate under the hull,
rather than striking the side.
agwhitaker 1 year ago
@agwhitaker
WW2 torpedoes also had the option to detonate underneath the hull ;-)
Celeon999A 1 year ago
i want to be come a soldier somday i will die for my country..!
takayukialjohn 1 year ago
its interesting to know torpedos dont actully "blow shit up" directy. They actully travel underneath ships and are triggered by an Electro magnetic pulse given of my the moving water and metal ie the ship and consintrate there explosion upward which pushes the ship up out of the water. The ship snaps its self in half when it hits the water ie the ships weight actully breaks its self in half...
I3rotherz 1 year ago
The torpedo did not hit the ship, it blew up under neath it.
superpilotdude 1 year ago
海を汚すのは感心しないな。近くにいる魚も死んじゃうだろ。
sibainu8830 1 year ago
Aaah bofors! THe pride of Sweden!
SpisadKoTunga 1 year ago
Aaah Bofors! The pride of Sweden!
SpisadKoTunga 1 year ago
cel,the last one is my choice :D
MacMillanSniper 1 year ago
@MacMillanSniper
Well at the end of the day, they all do their job of letting one swim with the fishes :-D
Celeon999A 1 year ago
@Celeon999A ya,i am A_S_F Btw
MacMillanSniper 1 year ago
I wonder if now adays they can select what distance they want to detonate the torpedo from the target in order to maximize its effective range and/or vary its level of damage.
swordofisis 1 year ago
Torpedoes and anti-ship missiles..They both spelled the end of the heavily armoured battleship in favour of smaller, faster vessels.
FredDude27 1 year ago
ok for the soundtrack, thanks....
cerber973 1 year ago
what is the music on this video plz ?
cerber973 1 year ago
Bear McCreary and the Battlestar Galactica soundtrack, FTW!
Some of these comments remind me of why we need these weapons. Barely sentient animals that can't even control themselves in a YouTube video comment thread, let alone in everyday life. "You attacked me!" "No you attacked me!" "No, you attacked me." I'm reminded of a group of monkeys flinging poo at each other going "Oot! Oot!" Pathetic.
ProgHead777 1 year ago 7
@ProgHead777
The Caprica soundtrack is brilliant too :-)
Celeon999A 1 year ago
The first torpedo was in fact were naval mines, which are dragged behind boats on the long barges and detonated them when they are found under the hull of enemy ships. Later, in the American civil war of such mines have been asked long sticks in front of the bow of the ship and detonated them when the enemy approached the boat.
Torpedo shape and any organization we know today was invented by a retired Croatian officer of the Navy of the Austro Hungary, Ivan Lupis, the 1860th
dalmat73 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
lol nationalistic history revisionist bullshit
Since when are Italians Croats?
adrastea99 1 year ago
@adrastea99
Actually he is right.
Giovanni Luppis (Ivan Lupis in the croation form of the name) was born in Rijeka, Croatia in 1813 , studied at the naval academy of Venice, Italy, joined the Austrian-Hungarian Navy , reached the rank of a commander and developed the first self-propelled torpedo in 1860.
Celeon999A 1 year ago 3
He wasn't born in Croatia and he had two Italian parents
The territories which he was born in at the time belonged to Austria-Hungary and his parents came from areas populated by Italians
The fact that during WWI and WWII Croats seized the area and drove out the Italians doesn't mean he is Croat
Guess who else was born in Austria-Hungary? Tesla. And he sure wasn't Croat
adrastea99 1 year ago
He have Italian roots, but he felt like a Croat because he was born in the Rijeka Croatia year 1814.
In America there is a large community of Americans of Italian roots, whether you call them Italians they will be offended because they are proud to be Americans. Although they are not ashamed of their ancestors if you call them any other way you will have big problems possibly even attack.
dalmat73 1 year ago
Tesla was also born in what is present day Croatia. He isn't a Croat either...
adrastea99 1 year ago
In America there are many Americans of Italian roots, call them Italians, and they will be offended. They are proud of their ancestor, but they are proud to be Americans.
Do you wonder why Ivan Lupis dosent served the Italian Navy, but the Austro-Hungarian.
They fought against each other for supremacy in the Adriatic Sea.
Maybe because he wanted to serve his homeland of Croatia which was then part of Austria-Hungary Empire.
dalmat73 1 year ago
Giovanni Biagio Luppisa known as Ivan Lupis (Rijeka, January 28, 1814th - Torriggia January 11, 1875.), Naval officer in the Austro-Hungary
He was commander of the Austrian frigate "Venus." He invented the 1860th The built torpedo, which was later perfected British engineer Robert Whitehead. As a result of successful inventions 1873rd was established, a torpedo factory, "Whitehead & Co.. Rijeka Croatia. Since 1880th The Lupis-Whitehead torpedo became a standard weapon developed navies.
dalmat73 1 year ago
Croatia was in that time in Austrian-Hungarian empire, Have you asked your self why Lupis served the Austrian-Hungarian navy and not Italian. They fought each other for supremacy in the Adriatic sea, because he served his homeland.
dalmat73 1 year ago
Bosnia was also in the Austro-Hungarian Empire
No one cares. Croatia did not exist at that time and his parents are Italian. He is neither politically nor genetically Croatian...
adrastea99 1 year ago
Croatia did not exist at that time? Hahahahaha
She was in Union with Habsburg monarchy had its own council and also have Ban (Protector)
Croatia has not won with weapons, Croatian parliament voted to enter into the union with Austro-Hungarian Monarchy.
dalmat73 1 year ago
Hence it did not exist as an ethnic entity
adrastea99 1 year ago
Shear power of a torpedo to blow a ship in half !! it practicaly lifted the entire hull out of the water...amazing !
depoty 1 year ago
Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!
Modernwarfare242 1 year ago
Holy shit, just look how it rips it in half, just using a shockwave....
flightrulez 2 years ago
I'm glad I didn't watch this video before volunteering on a ship for four years. ;) Thanks for sharing.
TimeLapseSteve 2 years ago
Half a destroyer comin right up sir!!
deerstalker999 2 years ago
Impressive! Id like to the spearfish torpedo in action.
bri4u2906 2 years ago
Holy shit! 1:15 game over.
usernamesht 2 years ago
the MK 48 ADCAP can be set to magnetic or impact or both, but no sonar detonation
Cravin9741 2 years ago
i have no idea why the us still uses aircraft carriers...
1 of these tipped with a tactical nuke and all those money will be wasted
THISNAMEOWNS 2 years ago
a nuclear torpedo was developed but scraped when they realized the ship that fired it would be unable to escape the blast
Cravin9741 2 years ago
that would be a big problem o.o
jam94banjo 2 years ago
@THISNAMEOWNS
Several nuclear torpedo warheads and nuclear depth charges were developed during the 1950's and 60's but as far as i know neither the USA nor Russia has any of them in service anymore.
They were among the first things to be phased out at the end of the cold war or simply got axed by disarmament agreements beginning in the 80's.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
@Celeon999A
The ASROC launcher system (A)nti-(S)ubmarine (ROC)ket for instance was deployed by the u.s navy in 1961 with the primary purpose to deliver Mark 46 torpedoes and depth charges via a rocket over a safety distance in very short time.
A variant of the Mark 46 torpedo was equipped with a 10 kiloton nuclear warhead for destroying enemy submarines.
This warhead and all types of nuclear depth charges supposed to be delivered by ASROC were taken out of service by 1989.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
I'm arguing with a guy on another video on how torps detonate, he seems to have the false belief they only detonate on impact. Wasn't this the idea back in WWII?
MisterHougy 2 years ago
That was the idea back in the first world war.
Magnetic anomaly detonators (called magnetic pistols) were developed in the time between the two world wars and heavily used in the second world war.
On basis of succesful magnetic influence triggers of seamines of ww1.
Of course this detonator was just additional as all torpedoes have also impact pistols.
The ww2 two ones had two modes, either impact pistol only or impact and active magnetic pistol both activated.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
The first acoustic triggers for homing torpedoes came near the end of ww2.
They detonated the torpedo when a certain noise level was reached (being close enough to the sounds source)
Modern torpedoes have impact, magnetic , active and passive (acoustic) sonar triggered detonators.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
would hate to be on that ship :L
dylanwebster93 2 years ago
holy shit ,
a ship that took months to build got screwed in a sec !
firehawkowner 2 years ago
wow, never knew that torpedoes were that strong
whitekong1323 2 years ago
This ain't your grandfathers torpedo.. At least you had a chance back then.
crazyfvck 2 years ago 2
That is intense. The ships break like twigs.
steveincairo 2 years ago 8
where are the aus subs made at?
MrXreXes 2 years ago
I think they're Swedish diesels....
marchonore 2 years ago
they are a modified swedish design built in south australia, we made them longer
darkerphantom 2 years ago
If you are at war you will flood and open the doors before detect a target! When they detect you it will be late!
CETRIM 2 years ago
I like to play with my periscope in the bath tub
MikeHuntagape 2 years ago
Do subs these days even need to rise to periscope depth to attack a surface target, or can they just fire off a torp. at lower depths and have it arc upwards?
dokaw 2 years ago 2
No, visual contact is not necessary anymore.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
you should post the russian one that works in the same way as the ADCAP
DNAz5646 2 years ago
If there is a good sonar detection, like accurate range and course, they can stay submerged, and use the sonar to detect whether it detonated, broke up on impact or missed
timmyti9 2 years ago
ich frag mich ob da nicht eine winzigkeit zu großzügig mit dem sprengstoff umgegangen wurde,drei gramm weniger und der ausgang wäre zweifelsohne der gleiche
Kotzblitz 2 years ago
Die Sprengkraft ist durchaus angemessen.
Der Torpedo ist schließlich eine Standard Waffe und würde im ernstfall gegen einfach alles eingesetzt.
Vom kleinen Diesel Uboot bis zum großen Atom Uboot, von der Fregatte zum Flugzeugträger, vom kleinen 1000 tonnen Küsten Handelsschiff zum riesen Hochsee 150.000 tonnen Containerschiff steht alles auf der Torpedo Speisekarte.
Dementsprechend muss er eine eher große Zerstörungskraft haben da man ja auf größere Ziele planen muss.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
da muss ich dir in modernen zeiten leider wiedersprechen, zumindest teilweise, es gibt heute bei der klasse 212a beispielsweise universaltorpedos, die werden im fall wie von dir beschrieben benutzt, es gibt auch Mark torpedos deren sprengkraft ans ziel angepasst wird, im besonderen fall wenn der angriff geplant ist.
wie in diesem fall, aber recht hast du schon, der torpedo muss universal einsetzbar bleiben und somit höchstmögliche wirkung vorweisen können
Bormann09 2 years ago
hey thanks Celeon999A, i actually learned some stuff here, AND all the comments are quite balanced and sensible, very good, carry on,
daddygab 2 years ago
Water directs explosive energy into the target much better then air, since it is much heaver.
masteropie006 2 years ago
Wrong! Water, a fluid, is incompressible, therefore all energy is transferred, hence the effectiveness of a torpedo.
sakoshooter48 2 years ago
Not completely wrong ;-)
All fluids can indeed be compressed, including water.
Water may not change its mass when it gets compressed but it changes its density !.
For instance :
Sea water with a temperature of 10 degrees Celsius and a salt content of 35% has a density of 1.027 kg/cmb at a depth of 10 meters. In 1000 meters of depth it has a density of 1.031,43 kg/cbm.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
Hey, for all intents and purposes it is incompressible. Good god man, work with me here, or I'll torpedo your rubber ducky in the tub!
sakoshooter48 2 years ago 2
Do you know wether it has the same temperature or do you get this result because seawater in a depth of 10 metres is warmer (or colder) than the water in a bigger depth ?
GendPzTrSchmidt 2 years ago
Liquids are compressible, but to a FAR lesser extent than gases. For simplicity in calculations, liquids are often approximated to be incompressible, but this is not exactly correct.
PS: Fluid is not a synonym of liquid. Fluids include gases, plasmas and even some solids.
Sakkura1 2 years ago
that was not a torpedo... it was a RedBull can. LOL nice video
FranciscoSRO2 2 years ago
Yep, but then it's already to close.. you can only release some decoys.. and hope it goes after them ;)
tielemaniak 2 years ago
A torpedo is harder to detect. Yes, they can be detected, but most of the time you are already to late. The missiles are rather vulnerable to AA fire (phalanx, goalkeeper etc)
tielemaniak 2 years ago 3
You can hear it coming from the active sonar it pings.
Wyrmshadow 2 years ago
Depending on the target, sometimes they can be detected before it's even fired, like from the sound of the torpedo tubes flooding, and the sound of the doors opening
timmyti9 2 years ago
its like cardboard ship
magma84 2 years ago
I thought that antiship missles did away with torps.
DisturbedRenegade 2 years ago
Intercepting a torpedo is much harder than intercepting an antiship missile. And you can't use an antiship missile to kill another sub.
Eihort 2 years ago
Oh no no, the torpedo is very much alive and evolving.
Also missiles cant deliver such quantities of explosives a torpedo can.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
no we still have them , i was a torpedoman in 79 and then they were working with the asroc basically a rocket power torpedoe thet flew to the target and put out a chute then droped in the water then went into search mode
tohuvohu2 2 years ago
I heard that Asroc recieved some upgrades in 1990 and is still in service today.
The german navy had the Asroc system on the Lütjens class destroyers (Charles F. Adams) bought in 1969. But the system was retired along with the ships in 2003.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
reply its possible asroc had been around even in 80 for awhile , they were working on some new stuff then
tohuvohu2 2 years ago
Some countries Use ASROC or a varient of. but the US Navy phased out ASROC in the early 90's.
I served aboard USS Halsey (ASROC equiped Missile Cruiser) they got rid of the ASROC well before they got rid of the cruiser.
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
Too big crew, too much time involved...in future one person can handle all the procedures (selecting target(s), pressing the button), computers does held most of them. Sub has crew of max 10 persons and numerous small drones around it as independent defense, warning and attacking systems...
aure232 2 years ago
can't stop my self laughing dude
as a crew memeber u make me laugh, you talk about something you don't know :)
why people like you talk about what they don't know, and you look pretty sure about what u saying hahaah
asako92 2 years ago
I talk about future, silly. Look today's subs and their evolution and compare them new generation fighter planes. You see...stagnation.
aure232 2 years ago
ohh s**t
supercobradown 2 years ago
Torpedo's don't know how deep a submarine is until it actually acquires the target via active sonar. The Shkval is definately the fastest weapon, but not the most advanced, just cause it can move quickly doesn't mean it can track anything. moving at 300 knots it cannot track anything using active sonar. And by the looks of it, it doesn't have a transducer that would allow it to use active sonar either. It was developed to use a nuclear payload, and allow the firing ship to get away quickly.
davidsirritation 2 years ago
Don't kid yourself. The skhval is a big hello, shoot me sign when you fire that thing.
chanrobi 2 years ago
When US sub launches a torp at Russian sub or boat, they use the Shkval to intercept the US torpedo
Russian boats use Shkval to attack boats or subs
Russian advanced underwater mine fires Shkval at ships or subs
Russian subs don't use Shkval to attack unless the enemy already knows where they are, this is painfully obvious
Only stupid American would consider doing that
adrastea99 2 years ago
It cannot intercept the incoming torpedo, it's just used to counter-attack to force the attacking submarine to evade, and possibly break their guidance wire. It can't use any kind of active sonar since the high speeds and lack of being actually submerged would make it impossible to track anything.
davidsirritation 2 years ago
You don't know what you are talking about, you are misquoting 10 year old info from the internet
Shkval has full independent terminal guidance system and maneuverability enough to catch and explode near enemy torpedoes and subs
adrastea99 2 years ago
And you are quoting 3 second old data out your a**.
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
You trying to say Shkval doesn't have guidance?
Fucking tool
adrastea99 1 year ago
Current production Shkval IS Unguided. The new version currently UNDER DEVELOPMENT has a guidance system but only when the Shkval slows to a non supercavitating speed. In otherwords when it becomes like a normal torpedo. And it is NOT EVER USED in an Anti-topedo defense mode. it is used against other vessels, not against other torpedoes.
dumba**
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
"Current" production Shkval has a 4km fiber optic wire for guidance
You are confusing "Guidance" with "Terminal guidance"
Get you some edumacation DUMBASS
adrastea99 1 year ago
I did get some "edumaction". I also served in the US Navy. I know exactly what Terminal guidance is. My job in the navy had everything to do with knowing the guidance systems of various weapons that could be employed against US ships.
You are simply on an anti-US rant and a troll.
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
Yeah and I'm fucking Napoleon. Don't make statements you can't back up on the net.
A real Navy man wouldn't mistake terminal guidance for something else, unless you were discharged for being a god damn fool.
I'm an anti-US troll for commenting on a Russian piece of technology? I wonder what topsy turvy world you live in where you defame a Russian piece of technology and call me an anti-US troll.
Get bent.
adrastea99 1 year ago
I DIDnt mistake terminal guidance for something else. that's a strawman argument you are making.
You really are a sad pathetic little person who gets off by attacking other people.
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
You attacked me bro... what the hell is wrong with your brain?
adrastea99 1 year ago
I attacked what you said, you attack me personally. not just what I said.
Thats the difference!
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
Yeah because calling me a dumbass is not attacking me personally
Seriously, you're fucked up in the head
adrastea99 1 year ago
That was AFTER you already started attacking me.
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
Stop talking to me
adrastea99 1 year ago
If it didn't blow up in the Firing sub's face first. a la Kursk.
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
Shkval torpedo s has speed about 300m/s meters per second. This is most deadly antiship weapon in the world. Torpido run under water in a vacum tube. /thats why speed is so high. In a middle of 90 and 2000 been several spy scandals. Russian intelegent catched some western spys before thay succeed.
mer3abec 2 years ago
Supercavitation is not a secret anymore.
The HK P11 underwater pistol for the german combat divers for instance fires six supercavitating darts and is in production since 1976.
A german company named Diehl has produced a supercaviating torpedo aswell but it is just a technology demonstrator and wasnt ordered by the military so far.
The company claims that the "Barracuda" is guidable, has homing capability, can be launched from submarines and from the air and has a speed of 400 km/h.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
They also say it is able to intercept enemy supercav torpedoes and can therefore be used for defence aswell.
Celeon999A 2 years ago
The Russian torpedos are not as accurate as the Mark 48adcaps.
Nimbly 2 years ago
year - and they run with wodka ....:)
CapitanoGUC 2 years ago
Russia is currently working on their gen2 Schval torpedoes. their old torpedoes slip thru the water at 300mph. they must have better numbers by now.
Mattessj 2 years ago
explodes underneath and break it's back.
101u 2 years ago
you dont need much more advanced torpedoes than that
LURKSS 2 years ago
i never thought they would be happy to kill a lot of people at the ship.
michaelkenbonga 2 years ago
wow they have touch screen! :D
raynez 2 years ago 3
brittania rule the waves!!!
toasternac 2 years ago 2
Are you perhaps a time traveler from the early 1900's? Because Britain hasn't "ruled the waves" since the start of World War I.
ElDoctorJanItor 2 years ago
if you think so gi joe!!!
toasternac 2 years ago
I do. And I'm right :p
Although it's not really fair to compare military dominance between strongly allied nations, because they're not ever going to need to worry about fighting each other.
ElDoctorJanItor 2 years ago 2
history teaches a different lesson !
i just hope, im not around anymore, when that time comes......
ecki74 2 years ago
And 1982.
EricTheBloodyViking 2 years ago
Brittania rules the waves and waves the rules.
Algebrodadio 2 years ago
Whatever ! Germany plays against Wales tonight so we will see who rules the football fields. *lol*
Celeon999A 2 years ago
the us obviously has superior torpedo tech. well, actually superior tech all around, with russian su-classes being the only competitor to anything
coleraine20 2 years ago
wat? There's some stuff in Europe that you haven't even thought of, brah.
imprezzed42296 2 years ago
such as?
coleraine20 2 years ago
Look, n00b. The US has pretty cool stuff, but there are other countries out there that are making stuff just as potent or more potent than what the US currently has. I Submit the VA-111 Shkval, the P270 Moskit, the Eurofighter Typhoon, the Saab Gripen, and the list could go on. It's pretty ignorant to say the US has superior tech all around.
imprezzed42296 2 years ago
@imprezzed42296 The Saab Gripen??
What i've heard is that when Saab got sold, they stopped the Production..
W0LFDK1984 1 year ago
as a submariner i'll just tell you that this video is a standard torpedo explosion, it detonates below the keel and essentially breaks the back of the ship by displacing water underneath it. And the US does have the most advanced torpedoes currently.
davidsirritation 2 years ago
I would say that the russian Shkval is the most advanced.
Any how, do standard torps "know" how deep the ship sails or is the torp depth set manualy b4 launch?
blidderbla 2 years ago
good thing were allies now :D
doomedtodead64 2 years ago
Is that music from Battlestar Glactica? Nice video. I guess the german torpedo is the most effective one.
ppers 3 years ago
Yes its from BSG.
The torpedoes are all pretty much equal, the weight of their warheads varies but they also utilize different types of explosives.
Maximum range is pretty much equal too.
The currently most advanced torpedo is the DM2A4, the successor of the one shown in this video.
It utilizes a electronic warfare resistant fibre optic wire instead of a classic copper one.
This laser connection can deliver more data faster than in other torpedoes and turn every torpedo into a sonar drone
Celeon999A 3 years ago
So the torpedo can also collect sonar data while on the way to its target and send it back to the uboat.
Sonar drones are not required in combat any longer, the torpedo now does both jobs on its own.
At the same time, the sonar computers of the uboat can supply the torpedo with data that assists it in differing between a noisemaker torpedo counter-measure and a real enemy sub.
This lessens the overall effectiveness of enemy counter-measures.
Celeon999A 3 years ago
All of those who sail in targets know to beware of what lies past the 30 fathom curve.
gobears1987 3 years ago
holyfuckign hell
HLDMpro 3 years ago
The truth is out there.
reYKCuf 3 years ago
Just like Bruce Lee said: "Boards do not hit back"
letyran62 3 years ago
A few ASW planes or helicopters could be a good substitute though
moomoo1337 3 years ago
Just like Bruce Lee said: "Boards do not hit back"
darthspeaks 3 years ago
Must be a chinese built ship
kesmit100 3 years ago
Real battleship will destroy you before you'll have a chance to launch a torpedo. Sitting duck is easy to kill.
madbadpetrolhead 3 years ago
no navy uses battleships anymore
eibelandr 3 years ago 4
Indeed. The era of battleships is over since their obvious inability to assert in ww2.
Since then remaining ones were only used for artillery support purposes against enemies who did not possess a own navy like the Korean War of 1950 to 1953.
Celeon999A 3 years ago
The submarine was and is one of the, if not even the most dangerous and effective weapon in naval warfare since ww1.
Celeon999A 3 years ago
It would be the aircraft carrier, submarine is a good terror weapon, but an aircraft carrier can do pretty much anything, depending on what planes it carries
moomoo1337 3 years ago
@moomoo1337 Yep, it can do allmost anything, execept 1 thing, Stay Hidden..
If you can SEE it, you can HIT it. If you can HIT it, You can KILL it..
W0LFDK1984 1 year ago
@W0LFDK1984 If you can see it, it generally these days can see u. If it was ASW it would probably see you 100 miles away
moomoo1337 1 year ago
there are no battleships anymore, dumba**. and battleships had no ASW capability. they relied on escorts to keep them safe from subs.
Cg23sailor 1 year ago
Or a Chinese torpedo...
TheCrazyFinn 3 years ago
My Dad woke up one night and yelled. He saw footage of his ship being blown to hell. Wow bad dreams with slow motion. I don't know it this scares the crap out of a Navy guy or makes them pround. I'm impressed
pharmant01 3 years ago
1:16 fuckin hell
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago 2
whoa...!
agree with you on that one..
spacekip38 3 years ago
yeah no shit. that was intense
bungholio1989 3 years ago
chool
yarden961 3 years ago