This "ultimate authority" figure that you are talking about doesn't have to be a supreme being who hands out your morality when you exit the womb. There can be an "ultimate" morality based simply on the 'golden rule', based on the human ability to empathize. Empathy has an evolutionary explanation by the way, but I won't go into that unless you want me to. But everybody gets their (logical) morals from their ability to empathize. As truthforrealtruth said, the "extra" morals come from the bible.
You dishonest douche. If you seriously believe what you just posted, you yourself have no morals, religious or not.
Go read Deuteronomy 20:13-14. Do those women and children seem like they were volunteers? I didn't know people volunteered to be conquered and sold into slavery. Serfdom and indentured servitude came much later on.
Also, I'll pay 50 silver for your daughter/wife/sister. I'll treat her much better than you ever will.
You better read your damn fairy tale book again more carefully.
So slavery and beating them is quite alright? I guess it's okay since they had slaves to build temples for him. Treating women as shit doesn't sit too well with me either. They are definitely worth more than 50 pieces of silver IMO. What happened to the golden rule that came later? Isn't that a change of morality?
God changes his mind all the time. It's not morality if you simply just follow someone's word. There is no just right and wrong since the world it's not so black and white. It's really situation and based on perspective.
Once again, you would need a moral basis to begin with to even judge if what you're choosing to believe in is good or bad. You seem to not grasp this or ignore it somehow.
Christians can't account for their morality on a universal basis either. No Christians interprets their beliefs or morals laws exactly the same way either. Just a Catholic and Protestant would have major disagreement. Religion does not have a monopoly on morals. In fact, religion has no part in morals. You would need a moral basis to begin with to even judge if what you're choosing to believe in is good or bad.
It's actually pretty simple. If you would like someone to do to you what you're contemplating doing to someone else, e.g. returning a lost wallet: moral. If you wouldn't like someone to this thing to you, e.g., punching someone in the face: immoral. Christians call it the Golden Rule but obviously it's been the basis for morality since long before Christianity.
This "ultimate authority" figure that you are talking about doesn't have to be a supreme being who hands out your morality when you exit the womb. There can be an "ultimate" morality based simply on the 'golden rule', based on the human ability to empathize. Empathy has an evolutionary explanation by the way, but I won't go into that unless you want me to. But everybody gets their (logical) morals from their ability to empathize. As truthforrealtruth said, the "extra" morals come from the bible.
ScientiaVeritasEtLux 3 years ago
You dont hear that from many christians :o
kais3rz3r0 3 years ago
then how were you created and where did you come from please make a video on that, and yea moron atheist can be moral anyone can
123gioavni 3 years ago
You dishonest douche. If you seriously believe what you just posted, you yourself have no morals, religious or not.
Go read Deuteronomy 20:13-14. Do those women and children seem like they were volunteers? I didn't know people volunteered to be conquered and sold into slavery. Serfdom and indentured servitude came much later on.
Also, I'll pay 50 silver for your daughter/wife/sister. I'll treat her much better than you ever will.
You better read your damn fairy tale book again more carefully.
a012345 3 years ago
So slavery and beating them is quite alright? I guess it's okay since they had slaves to build temples for him. Treating women as shit doesn't sit too well with me either. They are definitely worth more than 50 pieces of silver IMO. What happened to the golden rule that came later? Isn't that a change of morality?
a012345 3 years ago
God changes his mind all the time. It's not morality if you simply just follow someone's word. There is no just right and wrong since the world it's not so black and white. It's really situation and based on perspective.
Once again, you would need a moral basis to begin with to even judge if what you're choosing to believe in is good or bad. You seem to not grasp this or ignore it somehow.
a012345 3 years ago
More Energy Drink...
ChristianLipps 3 years ago
when it comes to morals, religious followers really dont grasp the origins of the "good morals" they choose to follow....
there is no "good moral" that was created by any secular religion as they all existed long before the holy books.
holy books also happen to contain a mass amount of "bad morals" and brought many immoral actions INTO society, discrimination being the lead example.
its quite rare to meet a person with more general morals than an atheist..and they are rarely ever monotheists.
jassi4010709 3 years ago
Christians can't account for their morality on a universal basis either. No Christians interprets their beliefs or morals laws exactly the same way either. Just a Catholic and Protestant would have major disagreement. Religion does not have a monopoly on morals. In fact, religion has no part in morals. You would need a moral basis to begin with to even judge if what you're choosing to believe in is good or bad.
a012345 3 years ago
It's actually pretty simple. If you would like someone to do to you what you're contemplating doing to someone else, e.g. returning a lost wallet: moral. If you wouldn't like someone to this thing to you, e.g., punching someone in the face: immoral. Christians call it the Golden Rule but obviously it's been the basis for morality since long before Christianity.
baraqiyal 3 years ago
Great examples.
truthforrealtruth 3 years ago
Correct. Their moral standards DO vary from person to person, so I would be compelled to agree.... amazing, isn't it? Lolz, jk.
truthforrealtruth 3 years ago
Define 'Universal Basis."
truthforrealtruth 3 years ago
The morality we get is from evolution.
However I understand how you say "We have extra morals from the Bible," which I agree with. But those morals are subjective.
FranzDuckVideos 3 years ago
What are the "extra" morals that you get from the bible you don't get from secular means?
a012345 3 years ago