Just as PAP had accused its foes of being paid by foreign agency, you are doing the same! You must have gotten the idea from PAP. So tell me, am I not correct to say you are its obedient dog? lol I am a patriotic s'porean doing this for my beloved country despite tight schedule. Working in foreign land away from your ISD is acceptable - lots of revolutions were done both within and without the country, Dr. Sun Yat Sen being an eg. Your naive accusation is laughable.
human rights? and democracy? in Canada human rights only puts tax payers money into feeding and educating criminals who get paroles in less than 7 years for rape and murder. And democracy? lets corporations gets rich and and the poor suffer. Just look at the economic decline. USA hasn't recovered due to democracy.
In Canada, human rights allow freedom of speech, media and assembly, such that opposing political views can be aired without fear of punishment, corrupted politicians can be exposed. Democracy allows the govt can be replaced peacefully in fair elections. All gd for the coutnry. But little kid like you can only see short-sighted views abt criminals getting paroles! USA hasn't recovered from financial management! Nothing to do with democracy. Little kids should stay in their frog well.
Agreed. Moreover, I would say that the education system is actually quite good. But it is screwed up in the Uni level. Students with A-lvl triple As couldn't even get into a professional degree course. Y? Cause there weren't any! Nursing degree opened in NUS only three years ago! Rest of the healthcare professions, such as physiotherapy, and occupation therapy, are in Polytechnics, and they take in A-lvl holders.
I totally agree. Moreover, I would say that their education system is good till A levels. Beyond that, in Uni, it kind of screwed up. Students with A level triple As could not even get into a professional degree course. Y? cause there weren't any! Nursing degree in NUS was established only three years ago! My family also couldn't take it, so we went back to HK. After I served NS...Sianzzz
People like singaPrimus, enjoying PAP's patronage and having no concern for poor unemployed S'poreans or the future of sg. Selfish unpatriotic bastards, I call such arsehole.
If my maid (aka civil servant/PAP) took over my home, mistreat my family members and I am forced to live elsewhere and my maid's running dog (that's you, singaprimus) tells me that I cannot comment on how to run my own family, I would tell him to shut up and f**k off - coz he is not fit to be part of my family! lol
fuck you wendyneo , hey opposition girl, your ass must be pretty dirty, girl . you are a opposition running girl dog . you post video here and there but do you think you can convince the PAP supporters to switch , well not in this century, I think you should switch to get the oppostion to come over to the PAP side as the chances are higher , girl girl!!
jacky777able, if you are not able to get a real girlfriend, you can go find your mother or any of the 100s of prostitutes in geylang that your PAP master has imported. There is no need to make cheap perverted passings at me. The only thing you will get to f**k is your own mom!.
Of course I can convince many pap supporters. That's why u are desperately barking like a mad dog!
I debate with facts - hence no dog. You can't debate, so go for personal attack - typical tactic of a running dog. lol
the fact of the matter is: you know nothing about this country called singapore, on the other side of the globe! Eg. You do not know the diff bet our CPF (which is drained to pay for grossly inflated public housing) and your CCP (which has no such "drainage"). So u should stop embarrassing yourself defending a dictatorship u dont even know.
Btw, pls go learn something about governance. Citizens need not be indebted to govt - it is govt that must not be ingrate to citizens, u fool!
Jacky777able, I c that your account is newly created and since then, you have done nothing but go to pro-singapore websites to bark like a rabid mad dog (which cannot debate, but can only make personal attack!) Geez, your PAP master must have given you a juicy bone to be its running dog. Aren't your mother ashamed of you? Got such bitch mother, got such son of a bitch. lol
I have block you, for making lewd comments. Go get a new nick. lol
wendyneo of the opposition party have put up anti pap videos and this motherfucker is the running dog of the opposition . Well, fuck you baby, you are a real bitch, think you can convince us the PAP supporters, well , dont be cocky, think the oppostion can perform better? Fat hope , dear , better clean your ass , girl girl!!
jacky777able, why r u losing your temper at a girl who puts up video against pap? Your PAP master didn't give you enough juicy bones? Or is your master getting angry at you for not barking hard enough?
Opposition are already performing better than PAP and that's why you are desperately barking like a mad dog! lol
I surely wish that Canada could have such a leader to end our thuggish unions. LKY leadership would raise the standard of living for all working people as opposed to special privileged insider unions and the like.
RussianPunch, your wish is very comical, given that the standard of living of working-class singaporean is near 3rd-world status, with no min wage, no anti-age or anti-gender discrimination law, no citizen-first-before-foreigner law etc. Singapore's gini coefficient is the highest of developed countries, and yes, those inside the govt-controlled union called NTUC, have lots of special privileged.
@wendyneo Singaporeans take issue with your mendacity. Your statement is patently refutable. Because the Singapore government has helped cultivate such a singularly high standard of living and an incredibly physically attractive island wonderland with economically, socially prudent leadership despite limited resources, Singapore is the number one destination for expats. I would love to immigrate to Singapore myself if I could. That said, however, the government is far from perfect: ...Cont.
When you emigrate over to Sg, you will become a CITIZEN. Your stats about "no. 1 destination for EXPAT" will no longer be relevant to you. I challenge you to walk the walk and give up your canadian passport for a singapore one (sg does not allow dual citizenship). Let's see if you will enjoy our super high tax (disguised as inflated public housing price) and zero unemployment /disability benefits and no public health ins. Dare you take the challenge or are you gd only at talking?
Most Singaporeans take issue with your mendacity and say otherwise, as do those internationally including myself. We internationally recognize that Singapore is a singularly physically attractive city state with one of the highest living standards obtainable within such limited natural resources and an extremely small land mass. The powerful and wise Singapore governance has thus made Singapore the top country in the world to live for expats; by this alone the government has earned its keep.
Yes, Singapore is the top country to live FOR EXPAT. But it is a miserable country to live for CITIZENS, because it does not take care of old, sick, or disabled CITIZENS, but only rich EXPAT. Normal people would consider such a govt lousy, because it has failed to take care of its CITIZENS. But you judge a govt by how it takes care of EXPAT! Is this how you judge your Canadian govt - not by how well it treats canadians, but by how it treats americans expat? Pls talk some sense!
I have to say there are some things i have to agree on and disagree on.
But to some users, you guys have absolutely no right to comment that the person who uploaded this video is stupid! Please, at least have some basic courtesy!
Anyway, i have to agree the governors in our country do get much more than the presidents or PMs in other countries.
However, i feel that without LKY, our country might not be even here anymore, so... yeah. People make mistakes.
Windfairie, thanks for your support. Actually, without LKY, sg would have been much better under rightful PM Lim Chin Siong:
watch?v=gCGLaiKFaX8&fmt=18
Also, the previous PAP composed of Toh Chin Chye, Ong Pang Boon, Ong Eng Guan etc all of which contributed much more than LKY and the proof is that post-1990, when LKY runs a 1-man show in PAP, Sg declines and Singaporeans are now suffering!
you think wendyneo here has courtesy. I highly doubt it. In another video I was just nearly stating my opinion and impressions while this wendy here goes and barks at me. I encourage a good debate but not someone who swears and thinks I need re-educating of my own country. I might not feel the pressure of singaporean but i don't think that typical singaporeans are that povern stricken. everywhere has their problem singapore is not the worse.
a good debate is only possible when someone knows what is going on! You know nothing about Singapore, be it CPF or inflated HDB prices, having not lived here. All you do is "think" by your wild imagination in Canada. The average Singaporean is below poverty line, by Canada's federal poverty guideline, and Singapore has the highest GINI coefficient among 1st world country. It is digusting to see you "debating" with imagination. Go fly a kite!
Attacking patriotism is the wrong why to the hearts of Singapore, especiallly the younger schooling ones who have zero tax to pay. They are looking at things from a different persective.
Try digging up for Temesek Holdings, GIC, HDB and CPF info. That's where you get more credible viewership.
I also liked how the Government of Singapore disliked the Unemployment Statistics and altered the unemployment rate to only those who are unemployed and looking for a job. I like how the Singaporean Government play with official statistics. If Singapore were to use US poverty line rates, we would have a Poverty Rate of over 15%... FACT!
PPP? Singapore is top 10-most expensive city to live in! Again, that's objective intl stats which ahs already taken PPP into account! (don't ask me to dig out the stats for you. Go google it yourself. It's there!) Pls carry balls intelligently!
But, u know, the old lady that you show - marginalised? She might have more money than you do - and then you realise that people who emigrate tend to be middle class people who make snide comments while paying higher australian taxes n get treated as second class citizens. Whereas the old lady in question votes PAP (the tune of 60-80% of the population). Isn't that odd? The stability of SIngapore enabled the middle class to rise (Shin).
ie. no fair PPP comparisons; propaganda here; failure.
The old lady is so poor and neglected by the country that she has to literally break her back to collect card boards everyday. Only disgusting immoral PAP mad dog aka siao kow, can say, without a shred of evidence, that "she might have more money than you do"!
Please carry balls with some intelligence. Don't make us puke!
What snide comment did I make, asshole? I made these videos despite having emigrated because I care a lot for Singapore - my native homeland.
YOU are not only making snide comments, but outright blatant lies in order to carry the balls of your master. You should be ashamed of yourself!
Aust tax is high only for top earners, not for middle-class. Singaporeans are 4th-class citizen in Sg! (see my frog video). The elitism in Sg enabled only a small elite pap ball-carrier to rise to the top.
Fair PPP comparison have put Singapore as one of the top 10 most expensive city to live in! This is a common statistics available in many reputable, objective international ranking that is widely available online.
It take a bloody immoral and disgusting PAP INTERNET BRIGADE doggy to pass snide remarks and blatant lies. Your propaganda fails! Pathetic!
Hi seahyukit...can i noe how old are u and what are u working as??..looks like you are a pro PAP...hopefully you can help me see eye to eye with the government...
Goodness. Intelligence seems lacking here. I studied in England for a stint, and the unemployment rate there is higher, more suicides, ... Wendy has failed to provide a suitable comparison. In addition, Singapore is able to offer ministers higher pay due to particular advantages and geopolitical situations that are not replicable. For instance, most Asian states including S'pore are developmental states. The US is not; France is not. In addition, she fails to check PPP. Not convincing.
Ethics is lacking in Seahyukit! Singapore has higher unemployement rate than England and more importantly, Sg has no unemployment benefits! Sg has 1 suicide/day, 1 elderly suicide/week, 1 teenage suicide/month! All these are objective open stats. YOU have LIED.
Yes, Singapore is a "developmental state", while US and France are already developed country. That's why our ministers are not fit to have a salary 5 times that of those developed countries! Pls have some logic.
U guys forgot to include this argument: When the Lee Dynasty falls in terms of politics, they still control the economy of Sg. This is bcoz most of the companies are controlled by the Lee Family Members who aren't in the politics, if u r able to trace them all the way up.
Wendy, all those pap doggies just attacked u with no substance. I wonder why they don't ask more intelligent questions like " wtf is pap government getting so high pay?" etc. Anyway like I said, we are on the right side of history!!! We shall overcome!!!
HK has way LESS poor people, because it has unemployment benefits and its pension fund was not eaten up by inflated public housing price! GST proposal has just been struck down. All these are possible due to democracy.
Sg has lots of ELDERLY clearing plates and picking boxes:
watch?v=B3DyWJp-aXU
watch?v=onkxJCOUjhs
Canada has NO *OLD* people doing that because *OLD* people are well-taken care of by pension. You are a running dog lying through your teeth. U should be ashamed.
Regarding HK,I think there are people who do want democracy.Although the HK Legco is not fully elected,there is significant inter-party competition such as between the pro-Beijing DABHK and the HK Democratic Party.True,there are materialistic people in HK-just as there are in S'pore.I believe the reason why Beijing has been relucant to grant universal suffrage to HK is that Beijing is fearful the HK democratic process would be used to promote HK independence,like in Taiwan.
HK independence? that's impossible. imagine s'pore w/o LKY, is it possible for s'pore to go independent and develop that well? and imagine, further, that m'sia cut off s'pore's water supply after s'pore went independent, is it possible for s'pore to survive? should HK go independent, china would use all means at its disposal to choke HK. and HK ppl know that, and they will choose survival over independence.
besides,i admit HK ppl do want democracy, every race, every human, wants democracy. but if you want something but don't FIGHT for it, i can only say you are a coward, hmm?
you love a girl and don't go after her to win her heart, are you a man or a coward? i hope this analogy will shed light on the discussion here.
It sheds no light on the discussion here whatsover. We are indeed fighting for democracy in Singapore. Some do so openly (JBJ， Chee etc). Some do so anonymously in a small way (me!). All you, georgelei, did is to come here to throw cold blanket and claim that whatever we do will never ever succeed. That all the FIGHT will come to nothing. Your latest analogy is thus irrelevant and shed no light
dude, i never saw your comment. would you mind writing it again here?
and i'll repeat once, i do not oppose democracy, and i do not support either pap or ccp. but i'm interested in working out some specific measures of democratization with you. 不要上来就给人扣帽子好不好？（ur chinese's pretty good, so i guess you know what 扣帽子 means), 民主是要有雅量的，对于不同的approach, 要有包容心，要可以讨论，不是吗？
Don't say it so grand: "i'm interested in working out some specific measures of democratization with you." Firstly, you did not work out anything. All these while, you are throwing wet blankets and saying that oppo. will never succeed against the all-powerful pap, that's all. Secondly, I do not need to work out anything with you. The specific details of how to democratize sg are in the 8 books that Chee wrote, and also in WP's manifesto etc.
还有，你说你不算民主人士，只是做录像的，可是你的录像时有目的的，不是吗？至少算一个political activist吧！but if you keep demonstrating intolerance towards those with dissent, ppl can't stop wondering whether your "democracy" will be any better than the "autocracy" you attacked. at least no ppl want democracy and making singapore a second philipines, right?
I welcome genuine pap supporters; However, I have absolutely no tolerance for PAP ball-carriers. The difference bet the two is that the former argues rationally, while the latter put forth *obviously* illogical and nonsensical arguments (or worse, for some , no arguments at all, but pure personal attacks/vulgarities) such that it becomes very obvious that they are here only to carry PAP's balls.
You, georgelei, belong to the latter group. As such, I have zero tolerance for you.
this said, your concerns for fellow s'poreans may be futile. just think, this government is deeply-entrenched, like the 万年国会 in taiwan's KMT-dictatorship era, and oppositions parties in s'pore can't and dare not oppose the gov fiercely, like what DPP did in taiwan in the 80s and 90s. then, what's hope for the underpriviledged citizens of s'pore? they'll only be screwed over by the gov, without any recourse?
i'm just curious why so many native-born singaporeans would still support PAP, if it's really that bad, as you portrayed. it's understandable that ppl from china support PAP, coz after, PAP is a better dictator than CCP, economy-wise and PR-wise. but why those native-born, english-proficient, (supposedly) int'l-minded s'poreans still support the PAP n vote it into gov. over n over again? this puzzles me.
They don't. 1000 give up citizenship & 8000 apply overseas PR every yr! 150,000 live overseas, which means 5 percent of the 3 million native citizens. Bear in mind 3mil include babies, elderly, and the lesser educated who are not able to emigrate. Minus away all these, 150,000 represents a very large percentage of the group you mentioned. That's why PAP has to import ppl from China - to replace those who have left! This angers the latter for reasons stated (in Chinese) under "more info" of page.
Goergelei, you have very strange sense of time. Qin Dynasty lasted only 11 years after Qin Shi Huang died. Yuan Dynasty only 80+ years. All tyrannical dynasties do not last long, and the Lee dynasty will be no diff. Your empty assertion (compared to my substantiated counter argument) is just that - empty :)
dude, there is a fundamental difference: qin and yuan don't have elections, and they will kill chee soon juan, not just jail him for one day! (imagine this guy is in china, n you can figure out how long he's going to stay in prison?)
in this regard, it's not entirely appropriate to compare with US or EU, or even china. these countries have resources, markets, political power, and singapore has none
and here's one piece of advice: don't expect too much from one political figure's death. look at china, mao died, but there came deng xiaoping, and communist dictatorship continues. appearances change, but the core is the same. you think once lee senior goes, pap will disband automatically? without pap gone, you think sg will be truly democratic?
Georgelei, don't need to use Mao/Deng to pour wet blanket on Singapore democratic movement. Your ball-carrying agenda won't succeed. Lots of countries achieved democracy even without death of despots Eg. Marcos and Mugabe were chased out while they were alive.
Yes, with PAP gone, sg will achieve true democracy. We will work hard towards that. Your wet blanket/ball-carrying tricks - we can see through. lol
i guess the only feasible way for spore is like taiwan-- the gov. automatically gives up certain authoritarian laws, and encourages democratic activities.but does it stand a high chance? what about the internal security code?
1. more than half of pop. don't get to vote due to insufficient opp. candidates, due to PAP tactics eg. lumping of many constituency into 1 big "constituency" (GRC), suing of oppositions etc.
2. GRC means unless the whole country oppose, else if only a local section oppose, it won't affect the result.
3. electoral boundaries are always changed to ensure a win.
4. Influx of new citizens from China, who vote for PAP.
Finally, if one is a selfish elite who cares not for the suffering non-elites, sg is a gd place to make money in high-paying civil service jobs.
Likewise, pple from China love sg - why should they care abt suffering non-elite S'poreans?
It's pple like me, who cares a lot for the poor, sick, elderly and for her beloved country's future under a corrupt dictatorship with no free media to expose wrong-doings that dislike PAP.
immigration is a recourse for those for can afford it, but for those who can't , there's no recourse at all, right? and i don't think ppl in s'pore will ever revolt and overthrow the gov. no offence, but ppl in s'pore are cowards, and when they get intimidated by the gov, they dare not revolt. (and PAP won't be so stupid as to let ppl revolt. they'd dole out some timely carrots)
hehhe singaporeans still have that something to lose thats why they have to keep quiet to keep it(flat)when we have nothing to lose,u can see riots and chaos in singapore...the day is closing in and LKY dun have much time left...once LKY dies...that is when pple will show their colours^^
ha, so you mean that when lky dies, singapore will plunge into chaos? then it will be doomed, economy-wise. you think int'l investors will still stay in s'pore, if it's as chaotic as malaysia?
there's a delicate balance between rice bowl and basic rights
georgelei1573, whether sg will plunge into chaos or not is up to the dictators, not the people. If the dictators are willing to give up their corrupted positions and leave willingly, there will be no chaos, just as Marcos, Thaksin left their position relatively peacefully.
If they refuse to leave peacefully, any chaos is their fault, not the fault of the people.
Don't try to scare us. Investor WILL stay in sg, after LKY is kicked out. Just as they did stay in Thailand, Philippines etc.
dude, don't mistake me as a supporter of dictatorship, but, i just want to say, democracy is not a cure-all, and democracy administered improperly can be poisonous, look at thailand! as a tourist, you dare not go to bangkok, right? (maybe phuket is another story, coz it's peaceful, right? no demonstration!)
>"there's a delicate balance between rice bowl and basic rights"
I don't know what you mean by this strange assertion. The two is not mutually exclusive. In fact, they complement each other. With no basic rights - such as human rights and democracy - economy cannot prosper and hence rice bowl cannot be saved. That's why Europe, United States prosper while China, Russia etc falter.
Your threat is old trick=. It will not intimidate us, and moreover, the ball lies in the dictators' court.
have you not paid any attention to current economy.. United States is at the brinks of bankrupcy due to what you call "democracy" democracy is infavour of corporations. Corporations are what makes the rich richer and poor poorer. We live in North America. We can see that democracy is nothing glamourous. Although I'd like to think of it as fake democracy. We don't really get a say. Like HST, or school fund cuts.
USA is at the brink of bankruptcy due to financial mismanagement, not democracy! Only pathetic running dog like you can make such nonsensical association. Democracy is what allows Americans to remove undesirable politicians via peaceful election instead of bloody revolutions! That's impt, but not to mad boy like you who prefer bloody revolutions. Canadian have a say in school fund cuts, via elected school superintendants, unlike in sg where sch officials are appted.
georgelei1573, u seem to have lots to criticise abt singapore, and hong kong (from the video in your list of favourites). Strangely however, you have kept silent at my rebuttal in that hong kong video. LOL! Go read my comment and rebut me there! You got no guts to criticise USA on their TV or on Americans' youtube channels? Ha!
don't take me as a cowardice dictatoship-ass-kisser. i support democracy in principle, but democracy easily fails in SE asia, right? look at malaysia, philipines, thailand, so many failed democracies all around you! and for singapore, stability is the biggest asset, once stability is gone, singapore is gone! you admit that?
Neutrality is possible, as the strait of melecca is strategically important to us, china, japan, taiwan and korea. with so many powers and so much vested interest, it's possible to ensure permanent neutrality (not just of spore but the whole strait), as so many superpowers want a hand in this game and the best way is to mutually agree that everybody steps out and let a small, neutral but impartial player--s'pore--- to run the game, and let everyone benefit equally.
nope but once he dies,he cant defend for himself or his son...nonetheless there WAS news/rumour that LKY will UTILISE THE ARMY IF THERE IS FREAK ELECTION RESULTS!so when that happens u think investors will wanna stay?
2. Change will take place in an orderly fashion, according to the blue prints written by many opposition leaders in their books and/or manisfesto - go read them. Your oblique accusations against the oppo. do not work here. If there is chaos, it's the fault of pap which is unwilling to give up power.
you may strike malaysia pre-emptively, but you cannot take out all military bases simultaneously, right? and if malaysia has any remaining military power, they'll make sure that spore is destroyed, right?
yup but singapore also has to realise that she is a turtle faction not a attacker faction!if we go attack sure lose de,even if we have a nuke!we need to make sure we can defend long enough to wait for other countries with more power to stop the aggressors!
3. Democracy does not automatically means no ns. Lots of countries have democracy AND ns. You want to carry pap's balls, carry them properly. Your disgusting logic that if we intro democracy, sg will be invaded because there is no ns, is just that - disgusting. Go learn how to carry balls properly. Don't insult your own intelligence.
I need to remind you that till to date, you still have not replied to my rebuttal on the Hong Kong video (which you "favourited"). It seem strange that while you surely must have some unhappiness towards USA, you dare not go on USA's TV to espouse it. Yet you chose to support Chinese who go on hong kong TV to insult Hong kongers, and now you come to my channel to oppose democracy!! Amazing!
(cont) Thus, if these NS conditions are changed, s'porean will be willing to defend their country. NS has nothing to do with Democracy. Using NS to say that democracy is bad for sg is insulting our intelligence and thus insulting yourself.
If you so dislike democracy, why stay in USA. Go back China? I am sure you can enjoy your dictatorship there.
Also, I repeat, why come criticise SG and HK's democracy-adcovates. Why no guts to go on USA's TV to criticise USA - ultimate democratic country?
did you ever stay in HK? i don't think you are in a position to comment on that.
香港人是世界上最自私冷血的动物。他们如果那么追求民主，当年跑到加拿大干什么？97后平安无事又回来赚钱那算什么？这算热爱民主吗？那简直在侮辱中国那么多为民主流血的人，也在侮辱dr. chee. anyway, he stayed in s'pore to fight and didn't go to us or aus, though he had plenty of opportunities to go, right?
2。你可以wiki british nationality selection scheme, which is a kind of special british passport that intends to prevent Hk's pre-97 brain drain. 很清楚，香港人贪生怕死，所以英国人给了他们一个保险，而受益者全部是精英，不是草民。
i can tell u an interesting story. in the 1980s, LKY was having a speech at HKU, and Hk students challenged him about democracy and human rights. lee was like, dare you go to beijing, to zhongnanhai, and challenge it to communist leaders? if not, why challenge me? and these cowards all shut up, haha
@georgelei1573 HONG KONG, CHINA AND SINGAPORE ARE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES . you will by now have become an australian, a whit man's country. be grateful to your parents for giving you a chance to be anything else than otherwise because australians will never sacrifice their personal freedoms. singapore is a pot of less than 60% singaporeans soon. most are god-knows what kind of foreign talents. easily 70% of the crimes in singapore are mostly committed by foreign talents, excluding juvenile ones.
Lee is a sly old fox (老狐狸一只！） and is very good at deflecting attacks. The HK students were correctly challenging him about the democracy and human rights situation IN SINGAPORE, but the sly fox deflected the situtation by telling them to go challenge CHINA.
That's not answering the question about SINGPAORE at all. Why you want to learn from him to become a sly old fox? lol
>"did you ever stay in HK? i don't think you are in a position to comment on that."
Did YOU stay ever stay in HK for a certain period of time. Or in SG? If not, you are in no position to comment abt HK or SG. And if you are not a chicken, you cannot comment on whether the egg you eat taste good or bad. What kind of logic you talking?
aha, you thought what i meant by NS is that s'pore will b invaded? nonono.
i mean, NS is in the first place something weird. s'pore is strategically indefensible. cut off the water supply and spread some germs, and s'pore is done, right? i mean, s'pore shouldn't have had an army in the first place. it should declare permanent neutrality, and ask other countries (US, etc) to help defend it.
Singapore IS defensible. The way to defend sg is offence: to attack and fight in other people's territory and occupy other people's territory and secure water pipes, BEFORE water supply is cut. For this reason, we emphasise on jungle warfare and air superiority. Never will we emphasise on FIBUA (fighting in built up area).
Declaring permanent neutrality means nothing.
Asking US for help is possible. Why do you think we build a naval base for free for US aircraft carrier?
interesting theory. but the thing is, let's be frank, the only potential enemies of s'pore are malaysia and indonesia. say, if u strike KL first, then retaliation is guaranteed. though s'pore military is more sophisticated than malaysia, but if war drags on, spore's lack of manpower and hinterland will prevent it from keeping on for long.
ya get US to come pick up the empty country!u nv learn the lessons from WW2 i bet...
we depended on the british and wat happened?the british was whacked in their homeland AND their colonies!so where did they put most of their denfense?IN BRITAIN!so if we depend on them,by the time we send distress signals to other countries,they can come to pick up the scraps left behind!
dude, don't view me as a PAP agent, i'm discussing with you specific proposals, fine? the pursuit of democracy always sounds good, but if you don't work the specifics out, things won't be as noble as they sound.
georgelei, if you want to discuss specific proposal, you need to be familiar with these proposal first. Else how to discuss? So I suggest you go read the sepecific proposals outlined in Chee's 8 books, and Worker Party's manifesto. There should be excerpts of these on their respective websites. The specifics have always been there. Just that you have not read them. Before you read them, what is there to discuss?
还有，我很愿意和你讨论具体问题，但是请心平静气，不要做人生攻击。你人在澳洲，也不再新加坡。我不愿意说什么你这么热爱新加坡为什么不回去呆在澳洲宣扬民主干什么之类的话，所以也请你不要整天拿民主自由的大帽子来打击人。 i'm no dictator supporter, but democracy requires specific actions, proposals and road maps, and we can discuss that, right?
Yes, democracy requires specific actions, proposals and road maps. And these have been outlined in Worker Party's manifesto, and explained in Chee's 8 books. You did not read them. You did not bring up specific questions about them. So you are not discussing about them! You are just throwing wet blankets at the efforts of the oppo.
if the country is worth fighting for,i believe there are pple who would defend for the land!take WW2 heros(singapore),no one in their right state of mind wld choose to fight for a country that is in war,but those heros i.e. lim bo seng fight despite knowing that going against the japanese have DIASTEROUS results!yet they are willing to fight to defend their land!if this country has a lower cost of living but retain the same standard of living,more singaporeans will stay
Honestly speaking though,I don't really hate those immigrants from China mainland.(My block has one family from Shanghai.)They came here with a mindset to have a better life and to send their kids to good schools.However,I think they have to know how the S'pore govt is making use of them to further this 'sinister' agenda.
I remember that in a GE 2006 PAP rally,Minister Ng Eng Hen said something like this:'S'pore is not the worst country in the world.'And to be frank,I think he's right.B'cos S'pore isn't a country at all in the first place.(I had said this to Wendy before)S'pore is more like a MNC.If you want to leave,nobody would stop you.The govt would just get immigrants from China mainland to fill in those 'empty' places and also to make sure S'pore's population composition wouldn't change so much.
oh yeah.goodbye. (just in case you thought i was too rude to say that and i suggest you use your time more appropriately rather than hiding behind the comp to wait for ppl to comment)have a meaningful life! :)
Ouch! Thanks for your final personal attack. lol. Don't worry. I do balance my time appropriately for myself, my family and my Singapore. The comments are not for you. Why would I write in such great details just for you? Don't be egoistic. It's for the reading of every Singaporean who chance upon this video today and in years to come. You are simply someone that provided the appropriate questions for me to provide the approproiate answers.
(cont) No doubt your thinking are similar to those of many pro-pap Singaporeans of your profile - So thanks for letting me know how they think & have the opportunity to learn how to answer such qn quickly. That's how I was able to do my Q&A FROG video. U have been a gd boy. Thanks! lol
Use your time appropriately too. I suggest spending some time thinking abt your future under a dictatorship, rather than just studying for exam, going cinemas and shoppoing. Have a meaningful THINKING life :)
BUT ANYWAY.u have ur own view and im entitled to mine. and i don need U to educate me on how to view wot's right and wrong. OH YAH,if till now, you still think i've insulted you becos of the "africa" thing, then that's too bad, becos i don't have any intentions of personal attack when i wrote it, believe it or not. alriteee. that's about all i've to say, i don't really have that much time to spend 24hrs/day to rebutt people's opinion like u. We, true Singaporeans, have much better things to do:)
Yes, u don't have much time. You have exams. Poor boy!
Indeed, I do not doubt you and some SINKIES have better things to do such as shopping, wathching tv, going movie, than to have an interest in politics, to think hard abt your future living in a dictatorship, and the plight of fellow Singaporeans. No wonder LKY look down on his unthinking slaves, even though they support him, and he prefers to import FTrash to replace them! lol
Lucky for SG, some REAL SINGAPOREANS have political interest.
yes, i might not be 40, 55 or 80. But i know that when my dad get retrenched a few years back, help was given to me immediately through the government in school, pulling me through the hardest period of time. yes, you can still call me a bootlicker, but im not siding the govt for nothing. Singapore might not be the biggest country, but there's still so many PEOPLE to look after, they needed talents. talents come at high price. welcome to the real world, like it or not.
Good for your dad and *SOME* people. But I did not make up the videos of those elderlies in the street. They are all over Singapore. Do you not visit hawker centres and see those 80 years old clearing plates? Just because your dad got help, does't mean the rest of us are seeing imaginary ghosts! So, STEP OUT OF COCOON, and open your eyes and visit places in sg that you don't visit!
The foreigners are NO TALENT. They are here to cheapen your wage. Welcome to the real world after u start working!
hey u know wat back in the 90s,my dad was unable to work because that time there is a disease with the pigs,so he cant work(he sells pork).govt nv help my family.my dad and mom worried day in day out and had depleted most of their savings juz to tide through that period(mind u my parents are not well educated)they even cancelled on my sis and mine insurance policy(its those type die die muz pay till me and my sis 15 yrs old de)
OF COURSE, you could have say the govt should pick them up, stop them from collecting paper cardboards and cans, give them some money, give them a good life. so if that's the case, who would work in their younger age since they will still be supported by the govt in the future?
"Govt can give me money what. I'm sure they wouldn't want elderly to pick up cans and cardboards in the future, ruin image leh. Work so hard for now for WHAT?"
Welfare does not reduce work ethics - unless you are brain-washed by pap and can only regurgitate its official line.
Finland has the most welfare (and highest tax). It has one of the most vibrant economy despite lack of natural resource. It's birth rate is high and none of them is emigrating to sg. After LKY said sg better finland, lots of bloggers have dugged out studies showing otherwise. READ WIDELY!
All developed countries have *some* welfare. Did pple in USA work? UK? READ WIDELY!
and LOOK. yes, maybe those elderly did contribute, they did work hard, where's the prove? why didn't they save up? why didn't they contribute to the CPF so later in the years, they would be able to get enough to go through their life? Don't tell me the govt eat up their money while many other citizens are enjoying their retirement on the CPF they save up on?
Yes, the govt ATE UP THEIR MONEY via inflated HDB price which depleted CPF savings. Plus there were no cpf back then! Plus, odd job labourers and "self-employed" hawkers and karung guni men need not (have no money to) contribute to CPF! Plus, their salary could not keep up with inflation. Plus, some people are disabled. Plus. some have to support large family etc etc. GET SOME REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE PLEASE!
Others are able to enjoy because they started out opposite - high edu, filial kids etc
DID PAP initially got those HIGH pay when they start working for Singapore? Didn't they prove themselves first to be capable of bringing up Singapore to where it is today? YEAH, if you want me to give you $1,000,000 because you prove yourself as the BEST econs teacher, you helped me get an A for econs, WHY NOT?
No, PAP did not initially get those high pay. It's only after LKY's peers have left and that despot runs his 1-man show that corruption is legalised.
Other equally good econs teacher teaching other students charge only $200 even after they have brought their F9 students to A1. But I, with no proof, claim myself to be the "BEST", and demand $1,000,000 AND demand the same pay thereafter despite your result now slipping from A1 to C6 due to my subsequent incompetence. YOU PAY? IT'S A RIP OFF!
oh.. and btw.. how do you know that people are not suffering in Italy, UK, USA, Japan, France.. blar blar blar? how do you know there's no corruption? HOW DO YOU KNOW the figures are honest? WHY do you just take what those governments say rather what your OWN government says?
UK, USA... sure have govt corruption. Every country does. But, it's illegal in those countries and thus a) occur on smaller scale (instead of yearly guaranteed income + increase too!) b) can be arrested and punished one day (eg. Taiwan's Chen Shui Bian , Philippines' Marcos etc).
In Sg, ministerse are like NKF's Durai. U can't get Durai to return his legal $600,000 salary. The corruption is legalised already!
msbacardi09, I don't take what ANY govt say. All govt cannot be trusted because absolute power corrupt absolutely. That's why it is so important to have check and balance in the form of democracy so that a) we have two parties checking each other, and b) we can kick out one party without goin thru a coup when it's not performing.
(cont)Free media is impt too. Eg: we never hear of even 1 case of innocent pple kana hanged in sg! In USA, after DNA is used, many people on death row exonerated. If u not brained-washed, u will realise it's impossible that:
sg - all judges judged correctly for all 40 yrs despite highest death sentence in world.
usa - jury lousy
Clearly, if u think hard, u will say USA has free media to lobby for cases to be re-opened and to expose truth.
What if 1 day U end up on death row despite innocence?
(cont)This death row is just an eg. What about other governmental wrong-doings? how come we hear abt sh*ts occuring in USA, UK, but never in Sg? No police beat up criminals to death? No skeletons in the closet?
Don't just study econs. Study history! history tell us that when dictatorship falls, all skeletons come out and taiwan just got one recently!
If u truly love sg (like I do! ahem), u will want DEMOCRACY & FREE MEDIA even if u r living (temporarily) ok. This means PAP must be kicked out.
(cont) Thus I support patriotic Singaporeans who work for democracy and free speech and who expose govt wrong-doings to others even foreigners (similar to you telling your friends how bad your MAID is and seek their tips on how to get rid of her). And I look down on dictators who deliberately say PAP=SG and that putting down PAP is being unpatriotic.
Get it? (As u can see, when u dun anyhow make personal attacks (as defined earlier), I am willing to "teach" you very nicely :)
>"how do you know that people are not suffering in Italy.."
Apart from SG, no other country has 80 yrs old still eking out a living collecting cans/cardboards! The homeless there are mostly drunkards, mentally unstable etc, not elderlies who have contributed and now enjoying welfare.
Lim Hoon Heng said:"retirement will be history". So, yes, u r doing well now but can u not see your future at 80 yr old thru these elderlies?
So, either emigrate or fight pap, or be like me, do a half/half. lol
All these already dealt with in my FROG video. Do yourself a favour. See it 1st b4 questioning me on things which I have already answered there! That makes u sound less naive and raise the level of debate too. ok?
yeah yeah. calling people who thinks that PAP is right bootlickers? come on woman, i side PAP because i feel that i live a stable enough life under them, that's why i give m support to them. in case you thought im one of the government officers, im only a student.
>"calling people who thinks that PAP is right bootlickers?"
No. It's calling people who tell me (paraphrased) "if you not happy, get out of sg and go africa. Don't come back. we won't miss u here" that they are boot-lickers! And it's justified.
I have already explained that. I thought u can read?
AND YES. our officers get much higher pay than other officers. WHY? because capable people are rare in Singapore. do you study economics? would you like me to explain to you? when supply is low, demand is high THUS a higher price must be impose, get it???
Don't use "economics" to give excuse for legalised corruption! It's pathetic! If ALL developed countries can get capable men at $X, we can to.
In fact, Ministers are telling us now that if we do not raise their pay by a million(!!), they will quit office and resign. That's a clear indication they are selfish bastards and not fit for office.
Do you need me to explain to you that you have been brain-washed to accept a lousy excuse for what would be known as corruption in other country?
You pay PM > leader of Italy + France + Germany + USA + UK + Canada + Spain COMBINED.
Do you see Sg's living standard > those 8 countires COMBINED?
We r below even any 1 of the countries (see my "FROG video" if u disagree and want to talk abt crime rates etc in those countries. It's already dealt with there).
Why not like this - u pay me $1,000,000 to be your economics teacher. Because I tell you I am the best teacher. So accept it that I am indeed the best. Remember, capable econs teacher are rare in sg. When supply is low, deman is high, THUS, paying me 1 million must be imposed. Get it?
After paying me, if you fail your econs, it's due to you being "complacent" (LKY's word) or external factor beyond my countrol ("world economic ressiion"), but if you succeed it is due to my effort.
erm supply for quality pple i dun mind,but mind telling me how a useless wong ken seng let a TERRORIST like mas selemat run away and still die die hang on to his title?mind u its already 6 months le...keke singapore soooo "efficient" right?
so.. i don know how the hell you saw it as a personal attack, BUT NVM. different minds.
OH. talking about PERSONAL ATTACK, i think YOU are the person who has more knowledge on it, eh?
oh yeah. PAP is so corrupted that they subsidise our education and yet is able to pay teachers decent pay. PAP is so corrupted that they gave help packages to the citizens.
HAHA. Wendyneo. funniest joke i ever heard, you being patriotic? so is that why (if im not wrong when i read other comments in other websites) you MOVED to somewhere else already? IF the government here is so corrupted as you SAID, then why did you run away instead of staying to fight? no guts?
NO. i was NOT doing personal attack, don't get your over paranoid heart take over your BRAIN please. im trying to point out how people in Africa are suffering due to their incompetent government..
@SingaPrimus
Just as PAP had accused its foes of being paid by foreign agency, you are doing the same! You must have gotten the idea from PAP. So tell me, am I not correct to say you are its obedient dog? lol I am a patriotic s'porean doing this for my beloved country despite tight schedule. Working in foreign land away from your ISD is acceptable - lots of revolutions were done both within and without the country, Dr. Sun Yat Sen being an eg. Your naive accusation is laughable.
wendyneo 1 year ago 3
human rights? and democracy? in Canada human rights only puts tax payers money into feeding and educating criminals who get paroles in less than 7 years for rape and murder. And democracy? lets corporations gets rich and and the poor suffer. Just look at the economic decline. USA hasn't recovered due to democracy.
Naorichan 1 year ago
@Naorichan
In Canada, human rights allow freedom of speech, media and assembly, such that opposing political views can be aired without fear of punishment, corrupted politicians can be exposed. Democracy allows the govt can be replaced peacefully in fair elections. All gd for the coutnry. But little kid like you can only see short-sighted views abt criminals getting paroles! USA hasn't recovered from financial management! Nothing to do with democracy. Little kids should stay in their frog well.
wendyneo 1 year ago
Agreed. Moreover, I would say that the education system is actually quite good. But it is screwed up in the Uni level. Students with A-lvl triple As couldn't even get into a professional degree course. Y? Cause there weren't any! Nursing degree opened in NUS only three years ago! Rest of the healthcare professions, such as physiotherapy, and occupation therapy, are in Polytechnics, and they take in A-lvl holders.
williamgen28 1 year ago
I totally agree. Moreover, I would say that their education system is good till A levels. Beyond that, in Uni, it kind of screwed up. Students with A level triple As could not even get into a professional degree course. Y? cause there weren't any! Nursing degree in NUS was established only three years ago! My family also couldn't take it, so we went back to HK. After I served NS...Sianzzz
williamgen28 1 year ago
People like singaPrimus, enjoying PAP's patronage and having no concern for poor unemployed S'poreans or the future of sg. Selfish unpatriotic bastards, I call such arsehole.
If my maid (aka civil servant/PAP) took over my home, mistreat my family members and I am forced to live elsewhere and my maid's running dog (that's you, singaprimus) tells me that I cannot comment on how to run my own family, I would tell him to shut up and f**k off - coz he is not fit to be part of my family! lol
wendyneo 2 years ago
seahyukit.Are u a govt dog?
mohdis1972 2 years ago
fuck you wendyneo , hey opposition girl, your ass must be pretty dirty, girl . you are a opposition running girl dog . you post video here and there but do you think you can convince the PAP supporters to switch , well not in this century, I think you should switch to get the oppostion to come over to the PAP side as the chances are higher , girl girl!!
jacky777able 2 years ago
jacky777able, if you are not able to get a real girlfriend, you can go find your mother or any of the 100s of prostitutes in geylang that your PAP master has imported. There is no need to make cheap perverted passings at me. The only thing you will get to f**k is your own mom!.
Of course I can convince many pap supporters. That's why u are desperately barking like a mad dog!
I debate with facts - hence no dog. You can't debate, so go for personal attack - typical tactic of a running dog. lol
wendyneo 2 years ago
the fact of the matter wendy you attack others too who have not in anyone stepped on your tail merely inputting their thoughts.
you are no better and don't think for a second you are so great.
If you don't own a maid kudos for you. You didn't bite your own ass by employing someone a giving them less than minimum wage.
Naorichan 1 year ago
@Naorichan
the fact of the matter is: you know nothing about this country called singapore, on the other side of the globe! Eg. You do not know the diff bet our CPF (which is drained to pay for grossly inflated public housing) and your CCP (which has no such "drainage"). So u should stop embarrassing yourself defending a dictatorship u dont even know.
Btw, pls go learn something about governance. Citizens need not be indebted to govt - it is govt that must not be ingrate to citizens, u fool!
wendyneo 1 year ago
Jacky777able, I c that your account is newly created and since then, you have done nothing but go to pro-singapore websites to bark like a rabid mad dog (which cannot debate, but can only make personal attack!) Geez, your PAP master must have given you a juicy bone to be its running dog. Aren't your mother ashamed of you? Got such bitch mother, got such son of a bitch. lol
I have block you, for making lewd comments. Go get a new nick. lol
wendyneo 2 years ago
From your response Jacky, I assume;
1. You are not a very well-educated person.
2. Even if you are a well-educated person,
I feel sorry for you because the education system has failed in educating you.
D04S02B04 2 years ago
wendyneo of the opposition party have put up anti pap videos and this motherfucker is the running dog of the opposition . Well, fuck you baby, you are a real bitch, think you can convince us the PAP supporters, well , dont be cocky, think the oppostion can perform better? Fat hope , dear , better clean your ass , girl girl!!
jacky777able 2 years ago
jacky777able, why r u losing your temper at a girl who puts up video against pap? Your PAP master didn't give you enough juicy bones? Or is your master getting angry at you for not barking hard enough?
Opposition are already performing better than PAP and that's why you are desperately barking like a mad dog! lol
wendyneo 2 years ago
I surely wish that Canada could have such a leader to end our thuggish unions. LKY leadership would raise the standard of living for all working people as opposed to special privileged insider unions and the like.
RussianPunch 2 years ago
RussianPunch, your wish is very comical, given that the standard of living of working-class singaporean is near 3rd-world status, with no min wage, no anti-age or anti-gender discrimination law, no citizen-first-before-foreigner law etc. Singapore's gini coefficient is the highest of developed countries, and yes, those inside the govt-controlled union called NTUC, have lots of special privileged.
U have no 1st-hand knowledge of sg, do you?
wendyneo 2 years ago
@wendyneo Singaporeans take issue with your mendacity. Your statement is patently refutable. Because the Singapore government has helped cultivate such a singularly high standard of living and an incredibly physically attractive island wonderland with economically, socially prudent leadership despite limited resources, Singapore is the number one destination for expats. I would love to immigrate to Singapore myself if I could. That said, however, the government is far from perfect: ...Cont.
RussianPunch 2 years ago
@RussianPunch
When you emigrate over to Sg, you will become a CITIZEN. Your stats about "no. 1 destination for EXPAT" will no longer be relevant to you. I challenge you to walk the walk and give up your canadian passport for a singapore one (sg does not allow dual citizenship). Let's see if you will enjoy our super high tax (disguised as inflated public housing price) and zero unemployment /disability benefits and no public health ins. Dare you take the challenge or are you gd only at talking?
wendyneo 1 year ago
Most Singaporeans take issue with your mendacity and say otherwise, as do those internationally including myself. We internationally recognize that Singapore is a singularly physically attractive city state with one of the highest living standards obtainable within such limited natural resources and an extremely small land mass. The powerful and wise Singapore governance has thus made Singapore the top country in the world to live for expats; by this alone the government has earned its keep.
RussianPunch 2 years ago
@RussianPunch
Yes, Singapore is the top country to live FOR EXPAT. But it is a miserable country to live for CITIZENS, because it does not take care of old, sick, or disabled CITIZENS, but only rich EXPAT. Normal people would consider such a govt lousy, because it has failed to take care of its CITIZENS. But you judge a govt by how it takes care of EXPAT! Is this how you judge your Canadian govt - not by how well it treats canadians, but by how it treats americans expat? Pls talk some sense!
wendyneo 1 year ago
I have to say there are some things i have to agree on and disagree on.
But to some users, you guys have absolutely no right to comment that the person who uploaded this video is stupid! Please, at least have some basic courtesy!
Anyway, i have to agree the governors in our country do get much more than the presidents or PMs in other countries.
However, i feel that without LKY, our country might not be even here anymore, so... yeah. People make mistakes.
Thank you for putting this up. :D
windfairie 2 years ago
Windfairie, thanks for your support. Actually, without LKY, sg would have been much better under rightful PM Lim Chin Siong:
watch?v=gCGLaiKFaX8&fmt=18
Also, the previous PAP composed of Toh Chin Chye, Ong Pang Boon, Ong Eng Guan etc all of which contributed much more than LKY and the proof is that post-1990, when LKY runs a 1-man show in PAP, Sg declines and Singaporeans are now suffering!
wendyneo 2 years ago
you think wendyneo here has courtesy. I highly doubt it. In another video I was just nearly stating my opinion and impressions while this wendy here goes and barks at me. I encourage a good debate but not someone who swears and thinks I need re-educating of my own country. I might not feel the pressure of singaporean but i don't think that typical singaporeans are that povern stricken. everywhere has their problem singapore is not the worse.
Naorichan 1 year ago
@Naorichan
a good debate is only possible when someone knows what is going on! You know nothing about Singapore, be it CPF or inflated HDB prices, having not lived here. All you do is "think" by your wild imagination in Canada. The average Singaporean is below poverty line, by Canada's federal poverty guideline, and Singapore has the highest GINI coefficient among 1st world country. It is digusting to see you "debating" with imagination. Go fly a kite!
wendyneo 1 year ago
Dude, the Japan PM is a different one now. Can you change the video please? Thanks!
CivicMindedCitizen 2 years ago
Dear Wendy,
Attacking patriotism is the wrong why to the hearts of Singapore, especiallly the younger schooling ones who have zero tax to pay. They are looking at things from a different persective.
Try digging up for Temesek Holdings, GIC, HDB and CPF info. That's where you get more credible viewership.
erniesurn 2 years ago
Dear erniesurn,
PAP is not Singapore. This video attacks PAP, not Singapore. Patriots attack PAP because we love Singapore - our homeland.
wendyneo 2 years ago
I also liked how the Government of Singapore disliked the Unemployment Statistics and altered the unemployment rate to only those who are unemployed and looking for a job. I like how the Singaporean Government play with official statistics. If Singapore were to use US poverty line rates, we would have a Poverty Rate of over 15%... FACT!
Kansiov 2 years ago
thank God, Malaysia enjoys more freedom...
aa00225 2 years ago
PPP? Singapore is top 10-most expensive city to live in! Again, that's objective intl stats which ahs already taken PPP into account! (don't ask me to dig out the stats for you. Go google it yourself. It's there!) Pls carry balls intelligently!
wendyneo 2 years ago
But, u know, the old lady that you show - marginalised? She might have more money than you do - and then you realise that people who emigrate tend to be middle class people who make snide comments while paying higher australian taxes n get treated as second class citizens. Whereas the old lady in question votes PAP (the tune of 60-80% of the population). Isn't that odd? The stability of SIngapore enabled the middle class to rise (Shin).
ie. no fair PPP comparisons; propaganda here; failure.
seahyukit 2 years ago
The old lady is so poor and neglected by the country that she has to literally break her back to collect card boards everyday. Only disgusting immoral PAP mad dog aka siao kow, can say, without a shred of evidence, that "she might have more money than you do"!
Please carry balls with some intelligence. Don't make us puke!
wendyneo 2 years ago
What snide comment did I make, asshole? I made these videos despite having emigrated because I care a lot for Singapore - my native homeland.
YOU are not only making snide comments, but outright blatant lies in order to carry the balls of your master. You should be ashamed of yourself!
Aust tax is high only for top earners, not for middle-class. Singaporeans are 4th-class citizen in Sg! (see my frog video). The elitism in Sg enabled only a small elite pap ball-carrier to rise to the top.
wendyneo 2 years ago
Fair PPP comparison have put Singapore as one of the top 10 most expensive city to live in! This is a common statistics available in many reputable, objective international ranking that is widely available online.
It take a bloody immoral and disgusting PAP INTERNET BRIGADE doggy to pass snide remarks and blatant lies. Your propaganda fails! Pathetic!
wendyneo 2 years ago
Hi seahyukit...can i noe how old are u and what are u working as??..looks like you are a pro PAP...hopefully you can help me see eye to eye with the government...
ary46 2 years ago
Goodness. Intelligence seems lacking here. I studied in England for a stint, and the unemployment rate there is higher, more suicides, ... Wendy has failed to provide a suitable comparison. In addition, Singapore is able to offer ministers higher pay due to particular advantages and geopolitical situations that are not replicable. For instance, most Asian states including S'pore are developmental states. The US is not; France is not. In addition, she fails to check PPP. Not convincing.
seahyukit 2 years ago 6
@seahyukit
Ethics is lacking in Seahyukit! Singapore has higher unemployement rate than England and more importantly, Sg has no unemployment benefits! Sg has 1 suicide/day, 1 elderly suicide/week, 1 teenage suicide/month! All these are objective open stats. YOU have LIED.
Yes, Singapore is a "developmental state", while US and France are already developed country. That's why our ministers are not fit to have a salary 5 times that of those developed countries! Pls have some logic.
wendyneo 3 months ago
U guys forgot to include this argument: When the Lee Dynasty falls in terms of politics, they still control the economy of Sg. This is bcoz most of the companies are controlled by the Lee Family Members who aren't in the politics, if u r able to trace them all the way up.
carterwez 2 years ago
Wendy, all those pap doggies just attacked u with no substance. I wonder why they don't ask more intelligent questions like " wtf is pap government getting so high pay?" etc. Anyway like I said, we are on the right side of history!!! We shall overcome!!!
hotshibuya 3 years ago
good!!!
ihatepap75 3 years ago
Great job Wendy, keep it up! :)
SeelanPalay 3 years ago
80-90中国旅游开放，大量吸取外资。新加坡许多外资厂家转移到中国设厂。导致Jurong工业区顿成鬼域。唐城倒闭，中国花园也少人问津。连带到新加坡工厂上班的马来西亚人都饭碗打破，以致新山也失去了往日的繁华。新加坡人也不再像以前那么多到马来西亚消费。
ywfox2008 3 years ago
新加坡。这几十年来，我亲眼看到你们70-80的昌盛而至今日的没落。70-80年代的大街小巷都充满了一片生机犹如当年香港一般。外国游客有如过江之鲫。人民生活不错，尤其是电影院，到处人头汹涌。而今已成过眼云烟。80-90年代中国旅游
ywfox2008 3 years ago
lol.. funny dont mention hong kong Im sure you guys know that hong kong has its less glamourous side. There are way more povern stricken people there.
and talk poverty when I went to singapore i didnt see any pan handler or people picking up boxes.
on the other hand where I live its all over the place.
But your way of posting is a lot more acceptable than wendy's way of shoving words and making people eat it or otherwise get punch in the face.
Naorichan 1 year ago
@Naorichan
HK has way LESS poor people, because it has unemployment benefits and its pension fund was not eaten up by inflated public housing price! GST proposal has just been struck down. All these are possible due to democracy.
Sg has lots of ELDERLY clearing plates and picking boxes:
watch?v=B3DyWJp-aXU
watch?v=onkxJCOUjhs
Canada has NO *OLD* people doing that because *OLD* people are well-taken care of by pension. You are a running dog lying through your teeth. U should be ashamed.
wendyneo 1 year ago 2
georgelei1573,
Regarding HK,I think there are people who do want democracy.Although the HK Legco is not fully elected,there is significant inter-party competition such as between the pro-Beijing DABHK and the HK Democratic Party.True,there are materialistic people in HK-just as there are in S'pore.I believe the reason why Beijing has been relucant to grant universal suffrage to HK is that Beijing is fearful the HK democratic process would be used to promote HK independence,like in Taiwan.
aldeayea 3 years ago
HK independence? that's impossible. imagine s'pore w/o LKY, is it possible for s'pore to go independent and develop that well? and imagine, further, that m'sia cut off s'pore's water supply after s'pore went independent, is it possible for s'pore to survive? should HK go independent, china would use all means at its disposal to choke HK. and HK ppl know that, and they will choose survival over independence.
georgelei1573 3 years ago 5
besides,i admit HK ppl do want democracy, every race, every human, wants democracy. but if you want something but don't FIGHT for it, i can only say you are a coward, hmm?
you love a girl and don't go after her to win her heart, are you a man or a coward? i hope this analogy will shed light on the discussion here.
georgelei1573 3 years ago 3
It sheds no light on the discussion here whatsover. We are indeed fighting for democracy in Singapore. Some do so openly (JBJ， Chee etc). Some do so anonymously in a small way (me!). All you, georgelei, did is to come here to throw cold blanket and claim that whatever we do will never ever succeed. That all the FIGHT will come to nothing. Your latest analogy is thus irrelevant and shed no light
wendyneo 3 years ago
dude, i never saw your comment. would you mind writing it again here?
and i'll repeat once, i do not oppose democracy, and i do not support either pap or ccp. but i'm interested in working out some specific measures of democratization with you. 不要上来就给人扣帽子好不好？（ur chinese's pretty good, so i guess you know what 扣帽子 means), 民主是要有雅量的，对于不同的approach, 要有包容心，要可以讨论，不是吗？
georgelei1573 3 years ago
Don't say it so grand: "i'm interested in working out some specific measures of democratization with you." Firstly, you did not work out anything. All these while, you are throwing wet blankets and saying that oppo. will never succeed against the all-powerful pap, that's all. Secondly, I do not need to work out anything with you. The specific details of how to democratize sg are in the 8 books that Chee wrote, and also in WP's manifesto etc.
wendyneo 3 years ago
扣帽子，当然不好。但，说实话不能算扣帽子。哈！实话就是：你根本没有提任何不同的approach来讨论。你唯一写的，就是来来去去说行动党如何如何强大，不可推翻，反对党如何徒劳无功。言下之意，就是叫大家放弃好了。这样分析推理，不是无中生有，不能算扣帽子 ：）
wendyneo 3 years ago
好，那你说说看吧，反对党如何推翻行动党，我愿意洗耳恭听。
还有，你说你不算民主人士，只是做录像的，可是你的录像时有目的的，不是吗？至少算一个political activist吧！but if you keep demonstrating intolerance towards those with dissent, ppl can't stop wondering whether your "democracy" will be any better than the "autocracy" you attacked. at least no ppl want democracy and making singapore a second philipines, right?
georgelei1573 3 years ago
我没必要教育你这个外人新加坡反对党如何推翻新加坡执政党。
你也不必要假装洗耳恭听，因为你质疑新加坡反对党的能力，并不是真诚地想讨论，而只是想籍此达到你贬低新加坡反对党，捧新加坡执政党卵脬的目的。这可从你字句中轻易地看出。我不是笨蛋，也请你别把自己当笨蛋！
wendyneo 3 years ago
gerogelei,我的录像有没有目的，目的何在，目的可否达到，抑或是一厢情愿，全都是新加坡人的自家事。
你不是新加坡人，是中国人，是个不折不扣的外人。但你一上我这频道，马上从头到尾，长独裁者志气，灭反对派威风，处处冷嘲热讽反对党如何是不可能成功的，处处舔痣说PAP将如何千秋万载，永远统治新加坡！
wendyneo 3 years ago
（cont续）你这种不肯中立，硬要一头栽入新加坡政治的中国人 ，在新加坡多得很！他们还撰稿上报纸捧执政党卵脬呢！为此，本人 不得不在每一个录像的"more info"里，给中国人上国民教育（欢迎你去读一遍）！
你，人还没踏入新加坡，已在千里之外，步上你那些在新加坡的同胞 的后路，真是孺子可教！
wendyneo 3 years ago
I welcome genuine pap supporters; However, I have absolutely no tolerance for PAP ball-carriers. The difference bet the two is that the former argues rationally, while the latter put forth *obviously* illogical and nonsensical arguments (or worse, for some , no arguments at all, but pure personal attacks/vulgarities) such that it becomes very obvious that they are here only to carry PAP's balls.
You, georgelei, belong to the latter group. As such, I have zero tolerance for you.
wendyneo 3 years ago
民主人士有雅量，是他们的事。所以他们能当民主人士啊！我只是个录像制作者。不需为收买人心而笑脸迎人，表现什么"雅量".哈！
You are referring to my comments on the hong kong video that you favourited? It's still on that video.
wendyneo 3 years ago
this said, your concerns for fellow s'poreans may be futile. just think, this government is deeply-entrenched, like the 万年国会 in taiwan's KMT-dictatorship era, and oppositions parties in s'pore can't and dare not oppose the gov fiercely, like what DPP did in taiwan in the 80s and 90s. then, what's hope for the underpriviledged citizens of s'pore? they'll only be screwed over by the gov, without any recourse?
georgelei1573 3 years ago
to wendyneo:
i'm just curious why so many native-born singaporeans would still support PAP, if it's really that bad, as you portrayed. it's understandable that ppl from china support PAP, coz after, PAP is a better dictator than CCP, economy-wise and PR-wise. but why those native-born, english-proficient, (supposedly) int'l-minded s'poreans still support the PAP n vote it into gov. over n over again? this puzzles me.
georgelei1573 3 years ago 4
They don't. 1000 give up citizenship & 8000 apply overseas PR every yr! 150,000 live overseas, which means 5 percent of the 3 million native citizens. Bear in mind 3mil include babies, elderly, and the lesser educated who are not able to emigrate. Minus away all these, 150,000 represents a very large percentage of the group you mentioned. That's why PAP has to import ppl from China - to replace those who have left! This angers the latter for reasons stated (in Chinese) under "more info" of page.
wendyneo 3 years ago
anyway, i like your music, and hope you could carry on, though i personally don't believe the PAP can be voted out of gov, for, say 100-200 years
georgelei1573 3 years ago 6
Goergelei, you have very strange sense of time. Qin Dynasty lasted only 11 years after Qin Shi Huang died. Yuan Dynasty only 80+ years. All tyrannical dynasties do not last long, and the Lee dynasty will be no diff. Your empty assertion (compared to my substantiated counter argument) is just that - empty :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
dude, there is a fundamental difference: qin and yuan don't have elections, and they will kill chee soon juan, not just jail him for one day! (imagine this guy is in china, n you can figure out how long he's going to stay in prison?)
georgelei1573 3 years ago 6
in this regard, it's not entirely appropriate to compare with US or EU, or even china. these countries have resources, markets, political power, and singapore has none
georgelei1573 3 years ago 5
and here's one piece of advice: don't expect too much from one political figure's death. look at china, mao died, but there came deng xiaoping, and communist dictatorship continues. appearances change, but the core is the same. you think once lee senior goes, pap will disband automatically? without pap gone, you think sg will be truly democratic?
georgelei1573 3 years ago 7
Georgelei, don't need to use Mao/Deng to pour wet blanket on Singapore democratic movement. Your ball-carrying agenda won't succeed. Lots of countries achieved democracy even without death of despots Eg. Marcos and Mugabe were chased out while they were alive.
Yes, with PAP gone, sg will achieve true democracy. We will work hard towards that. Your wet blanket/ball-carrying tricks - we can see through. lol
wendyneo 3 years ago
i guess the only feasible way for spore is like taiwan-- the gov. automatically gives up certain authoritarian laws, and encourages democratic activities.but does it stand a high chance? what about the internal security code?
georgelei1573 3 years ago 3
Also, voting result is misleading:
1. more than half of pop. don't get to vote due to insufficient opp. candidates, due to PAP tactics eg. lumping of many constituency into 1 big "constituency" (GRC), suing of oppositions etc.
2. GRC means unless the whole country oppose, else if only a local section oppose, it won't affect the result.
3. electoral boundaries are always changed to ensure a win.
4. Influx of new citizens from China, who vote for PAP.
wendyneo 3 years ago
Finally, if one is a selfish elite who cares not for the suffering non-elites, sg is a gd place to make money in high-paying civil service jobs.
Likewise, pple from China love sg - why should they care abt suffering non-elite S'poreans?
It's pple like me, who cares a lot for the poor, sick, elderly and for her beloved country's future under a corrupt dictatorship with no free media to expose wrong-doings that dislike PAP.
wendyneo 3 years ago
then, what's hope for s'pore? just let this one-party regime continue indefinitely? until china, N korea, vietnam all become multiarty states?
georgelei1573 3 years ago 3
热爱国家，关心陷入水深火热中的同胞，对国家前途忧心忡忡，就会痛恨腐败政府。这不是置身事外，只顾赚钱，不问国事，不理同胞的那类新加坡人或外来新移民所能理解的。
wendyneo 3 years ago
immigration is a recourse for those for can afford it, but for those who can't , there's no recourse at all, right? and i don't think ppl in s'pore will ever revolt and overthrow the gov. no offence, but ppl in s'pore are cowards, and when they get intimidated by the gov, they dare not revolt. (and PAP won't be so stupid as to let ppl revolt. they'd dole out some timely carrots)
georgelei1573 3 years ago
hehhe singaporeans still have that something to lose thats why they have to keep quiet to keep it(flat)when we have nothing to lose,u can see riots and chaos in singapore...the day is closing in and LKY dun have much time left...once LKY dies...that is when pple will show their colours^^
reallydead 3 years ago
ha, so you mean that when lky dies, singapore will plunge into chaos? then it will be doomed, economy-wise. you think int'l investors will still stay in s'pore, if it's as chaotic as malaysia?
there's a delicate balance between rice bowl and basic rights
georgelei1573 3 years ago 5
georgelei1573, whether sg will plunge into chaos or not is up to the dictators, not the people. If the dictators are willing to give up their corrupted positions and leave willingly, there will be no chaos, just as Marcos, Thaksin left their position relatively peacefully.
If they refuse to leave peacefully, any chaos is their fault, not the fault of the people.
Don't try to scare us. Investor WILL stay in sg, after LKY is kicked out. Just as they did stay in Thailand, Philippines etc.
wendyneo 3 years ago
dude, don't mistake me as a supporter of dictatorship, but, i just want to say, democracy is not a cure-all, and democracy administered improperly can be poisonous, look at thailand! as a tourist, you dare not go to bangkok, right? (maybe phuket is another story, coz it's peaceful, right? no demonstration!)
georgelei1573 3 years ago 5
>"there's a delicate balance between rice bowl and basic rights"
I don't know what you mean by this strange assertion. The two is not mutually exclusive. In fact, they complement each other. With no basic rights - such as human rights and democracy - economy cannot prosper and hence rice bowl cannot be saved. That's why Europe, United States prosper while China, Russia etc falter.
Your threat is old trick=. It will not intimidate us, and moreover, the ball lies in the dictators' court.
wendyneo 3 years ago
have you not paid any attention to current economy.. United States is at the brinks of bankrupcy due to what you call "democracy" democracy is infavour of corporations. Corporations are what makes the rich richer and poor poorer. We live in North America. We can see that democracy is nothing glamourous. Although I'd like to think of it as fake democracy. We don't really get a say. Like HST, or school fund cuts.
Naorichan 1 year ago
@Naorichan
USA is at the brink of bankruptcy due to financial mismanagement, not democracy! Only pathetic running dog like you can make such nonsensical association. Democracy is what allows Americans to remove undesirable politicians via peaceful election instead of bloody revolutions! That's impt, but not to mad boy like you who prefer bloody revolutions. Canadian have a say in school fund cuts, via elected school superintendants, unlike in sg where sch officials are appted.
wendyneo 1 year ago
georgelei1573, u seem to have lots to criticise abt singapore, and hong kong (from the video in your list of favourites). Strangely however, you have kept silent at my rebuttal in that hong kong video. LOL! Go read my comment and rebut me there! You got no guts to criticise USA on their TV or on Americans' youtube channels? Ha!
wendyneo 3 years ago
really? i like s'pore much better than HK!
don't take me as a cowardice dictatoship-ass-kisser. i support democracy in principle, but democracy easily fails in SE asia, right? look at malaysia, philipines, thailand, so many failed democracies all around you! and for singapore, stability is the biggest asset, once stability is gone, singapore is gone! you admit that?
georgelei1573 3 years ago 6
Democracy is NOT equal instability.
That's PAP's myth.
If pursuing democracy result in crash with pap and instability, that's the fault of pap, not democracy advocates.
What is your implied message? That we all give up democracy and accept dictatorship?
wendyneo 3 years ago
Neutrality is possible, as the strait of melecca is strategically important to us, china, japan, taiwan and korea. with so many powers and so much vested interest, it's possible to ensure permanent neutrality (not just of spore but the whole strait), as so many superpowers want a hand in this game and the best way is to mutually agree that everybody steps out and let a small, neutral but impartial player--s'pore--- to run the game, and let everyone benefit equally.
georgelei1573 3 years ago 5
well neutrality is possible
like switzerland,who chose to remain neutral,even during WW1
reallydead 3 years ago 3
nope but once he dies,he cant defend for himself or his son...nonetheless there WAS news/rumour that LKY will UTILISE THE ARMY IF THERE IS FREAK ELECTION RESULTS!so when that happens u think investors will wanna stay?
reallydead 3 years ago
so how will s'pore be after LKY? how will changes take place? can you imagine a road map towards a truly democratic s'pore?
and NS will no longer be mandatory in a truly democratic country, right? coz almost all my s'pore friends hate NS!
georgelei1573 3 years ago 3
georgelei,
1. S'pore will be great after the despot die.
2. Change will take place in an orderly fashion, according to the blue prints written by many opposition leaders in their books and/or manisfesto - go read them. Your oblique accusations against the oppo. do not work here. If there is chaos, it's the fault of pap which is unwilling to give up power.
wendyneo 3 years ago
至于香港，我再说一次，那和民主无关。 it's something personal, and i hate HK ppl, and only HK ppl. put it aside.
my oblique accusations? did i accuse anybody or any organization? show me! 你这样说话是很没有雅量的，不像一个民主人士应有的作为。
georgelei1573 3 years ago 2
>"my oblique accusations?"
You imply that Chee and other democratic workers are small fry, will not achieve anything, and are nothing!
You said that PAP will always be ard, even after lky's death and imply that we might as well do nothing abt it.
本人不是民主人士，只不过是个在网上制作录像的小人物，有没有雅量都没关系。呵呵！
wendyneo 3 years ago
you may strike malaysia pre-emptively, but you cannot take out all military bases simultaneously, right? and if malaysia has any remaining military power, they'll make sure that spore is destroyed, right?
georgelei1573 3 years ago 4
yup but singapore also has to realise that she is a turtle faction not a attacker faction!if we go attack sure lose de,even if we have a nuke!we need to make sure we can defend long enough to wait for other countries with more power to stop the aggressors!
reallydead 3 years ago
3. Democracy does not automatically means no ns. Lots of countries have democracy AND ns. You want to carry pap's balls, carry them properly. Your disgusting logic that if we intro democracy, sg will be invaded because there is no ns, is just that - disgusting. Go learn how to carry balls properly. Don't insult your own intelligence.
wendyneo 3 years ago
georgelei,
I need to remind you that till to date, you still have not replied to my rebuttal on the Hong Kong video (which you "favourited"). It seem strange that while you surely must have some unhappiness towards USA, you dare not go on USA's TV to espouse it. Yet you chose to support Chinese who go on hong kong TV to insult Hong kongers, and now you come to my channel to oppose democracy!! Amazing!
wendyneo 3 years ago
S'poreans hate NS because:
1. too long - Comparison to other countries show that training can be done in much less than 2.5 years
2. too low allowance - cheap labour!
3. long reservists training - inability to compete with foreigners given the unfair employment law.
4. This country is not worth defending due to PAP.
wendyneo 3 years ago
(cont) Thus, if these NS conditions are changed, s'porean will be willing to defend their country. NS has nothing to do with Democracy. Using NS to say that democracy is bad for sg is insulting our intelligence and thus insulting yourself.
If you so dislike democracy, why stay in USA. Go back China? I am sure you can enjoy your dictatorship there.
Also, I repeat, why come criticise SG and HK's democracy-adcovates. Why no guts to go on USA's TV to criticise USA - ultimate democratic country?
wendyneo 3 years ago
香港人追求民主? 那是笑话，香港人追求的是个人利益罢了，你把李光耀的手段拿来香港，那些小丑马上闭嘴了。我是佩服徐顺全的，你不要把我当成是独裁者的帮凶。只是靠一个两个甚至十个徐，也不能使新加坡民主化，你承认吗？
georgelei1573 3 years ago
一来，香港人确实追求民主。是人，就热爱民主，追求人民做主。古 今中外都一样。那是人的天性。你贬低香港人的理想，歪曲成"个人利益"，还套上个"罢了"，是你自己不好，在为专制的独裁者说话。
二来，个人利益并不与民主互相抵触。反而是相铺相成。追求民主即 等于追求个人利益，反之亦然。
wendyneo 3 years ago
did you ever stay in HK? i don't think you are in a position to comment on that.
香港人是世界上最自私冷血的动物。他们如果那么追求民主，当年跑到加拿大干什么？97后平安无事又回来赚钱那算什么？这算热爱民主吗？那简直在侮辱中国那么多为民主流血的人，也在侮辱dr. chee. anyway, he stayed in s'pore to fight and didn't go to us or aus, though he had plenty of opportunities to go, right?
georgelei1573 3 years ago 6
跑去加拿大的，是普通老百姓。我说追求民主的，是那些香港民主领袖。
中国哪里有那么多为民主流血的人？多数，还不是与香港老百姓一样，跑去美国，英国，全世界？留下来为民主抛头颅，洒热血的，以比例来算，或许比香港人还少。
wendyneo 3 years ago
1. 我在香港住过3年，比你更有发言权。
2。你可以wiki british nationality selection scheme, which is a kind of special british passport that intends to prevent Hk's pre-97 brain drain. 很清楚，香港人贪生怕死，所以英国人给了他们一个保险，而受益者全部是精英，不是草民。
georgelei1573 3 years ago
香港人不是怕死，是反共。
你无需教育我有关英籍护照的事。这只会暴露你的狂妄。你并不比我更有发言权。我也没必要透露我对香港的认识如何比你深。
wendyneo 3 years ago
哈哈，真的反共去中国反，香港有共产党吗？
i can tell u an interesting story. in the 1980s, LKY was having a speech at HKU, and Hk students challenged him about democracy and human rights. lee was like, dare you go to beijing, to zhongnanhai, and challenge it to communist leaders? if not, why challenge me? and these cowards all shut up, haha
georgelei1573 3 years ago 8
@georgelei1573 HONG KONG, CHINA AND SINGAPORE ARE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES . you will by now have become an australian, a whit man's country. be grateful to your parents for giving you a chance to be anything else than otherwise because australians will never sacrifice their personal freedoms. singapore is a pot of less than 60% singaporeans soon. most are god-knows what kind of foreign talents. easily 70% of the crimes in singapore are mostly committed by foreign talents, excluding juvenile ones.
MegaRose235 1 year ago
@georgelei1573
Lee is a sly old fox (老狐狸一只！） and is very good at deflecting attacks. The HK students were correctly challenging him about the democracy and human rights situation IN SINGAPORE, but the sly fox deflected the situtation by telling them to go challenge CHINA.
That's not answering the question about SINGPAORE at all. Why you want to learn from him to become a sly old fox? lol
wendyneo 3 months ago
>"did you ever stay in HK? i don't think you are in a position to comment on that."
Did YOU stay ever stay in HK for a certain period of time. Or in SG? If not, you are in no position to comment abt HK or SG. And if you are not a chicken, you cannot comment on whether the egg you eat taste good or bad. What kind of logic you talking?
wendyneo 3 years ago
追求民主的香港人，有谁被关过？Nil! 而你放眼亚洲，不论中国、台湾、韩国、大马、印尼，哪个民主领袖没被关过？没有付出就没有回报，香港人贪生怕死，不敢为民主玩真的，不留一滴血，也想有民主？impossible!
georgelei1573 3 years ago
中共在1989年用坦克对付北京学生，却没有如此对付香港人。香港人因此没机会"表现"。你却藉此来诬蔑香港人贪生怕死！这显然毫无逻辑。然而本人并不认为你是个没有逻辑思维的人。因此，唯一结论就是，你对香港人有偏见！
以此同理，从你关于新加坡的言论，可得出结论：你处处长独裁者志气，灭民主人士威风，不是基于要真诚讨论任何东西，而是有政治目的。
wendyneo 3 years ago
首先，古今中外的例子说明，只要有一个杰出的领导人，就足以推翻独裁者。印度的甘地是近例，推翻菲律宾的马可思又是一例。
其次，就算不能成功，也应该去试。纵然失败，也对得起天地良心。从屈原到潭嗣同，从甘地到翁山淑支，无不如此。
你自称不是独裁者的帮凶，但言语间，处处长独裁者志气，灭民主人士威风，言下之意，有点这个，那个，哈哈，不言而喻！
wendyneo 3 years ago
aha, you thought what i meant by NS is that s'pore will b invaded? nonono.
i mean, NS is in the first place something weird. s'pore is strategically indefensible. cut off the water supply and spread some germs, and s'pore is done, right? i mean, s'pore shouldn't have had an army in the first place. it should declare permanent neutrality, and ask other countries (US, etc) to help defend it.
georgelei1573 3 years ago
Singapore IS defensible. The way to defend sg is offence: to attack and fight in other people's territory and occupy other people's territory and secure water pipes, BEFORE water supply is cut. For this reason, we emphasise on jungle warfare and air superiority. Never will we emphasise on FIBUA (fighting in built up area).
Declaring permanent neutrality means nothing.
Asking US for help is possible. Why do you think we build a naval base for free for US aircraft carrier?
wendyneo 3 years ago
interesting theory. but the thing is, let's be frank, the only potential enemies of s'pore are malaysia and indonesia. say, if u strike KL first, then retaliation is guaranteed. though s'pore military is more sophisticated than malaysia, but if war drags on, spore's lack of manpower and hinterland will prevent it from keeping on for long.
georgelei1573 3 years ago
ya get US to come pick up the empty country!u nv learn the lessons from WW2 i bet...
we depended on the british and wat happened?the british was whacked in their homeland AND their colonies!so where did they put most of their denfense?IN BRITAIN!so if we depend on them,by the time we send distress signals to other countries,they can come to pick up the scraps left behind!
reallydead 3 years ago
george,新加坡人热爱民主，要推翻专政，你看不顺眼。香港人热爱民主，要推翻专政，你也看不顺眼。那美国人如此热爱民主，相信你一定最看不顺眼美国人了。干嘛你不上美国人的频道批评美国人的民主？干嘛你只去香港人与我这新加坡人的频道批评新加坡人与香港人追求民主？
又，倘若你看民主不顺眼，何必留在美国？你索性回中国，不就可以大享专制制度了吗？
wendyneo 3 years ago
dude, don't view me as a PAP agent, i'm discussing with you specific proposals, fine? the pursuit of democracy always sounds good, but if you don't work the specifics out, things won't be as noble as they sound.
georgelei1573 3 years ago 2
georgelei, if you want to discuss specific proposal, you need to be familiar with these proposal first. Else how to discuss? So I suggest you go read the sepecific proposals outlined in Chee's 8 books, and Worker Party's manifesto. There should be excerpts of these on their respective websites. The specifics have always been there. Just that you have not read them. Before you read them, what is there to discuss?
wendyneo 3 years ago
还有，我很愿意和你讨论具体问题，但是请心平静气，不要做人生攻击。你人在澳洲，也不再新加坡。我不愿意说什么你这么热爱新加坡为什么不回去呆在澳洲宣扬民主干什么之类的话，所以也请你不要整天拿民主自由的大帽子来打击人。 i'm no dictator supporter, but democracy requires specific actions, proposals and road maps, and we can discuss that, right?
georgelei1573 3 years ago
Yes, democracy requires specific actions, proposals and road maps. And these have been outlined in Worker Party's manifesto, and explained in Chee's 8 books. You did not read them. You did not bring up specific questions about them. So you are not discussing about them! You are just throwing wet blankets at the efforts of the oppo.
wendyneo 3 years ago
你根本就不是在讨论什么具体问题。你只是在每一个留言里，说明行 动党是如何的强大，反对党是如何的不可能成功，言下之意，是叫大 家放弃，降服。哪有提出什么问题？
你不愿意说，但我愿意解释：热爱新加坡并非不可暂时在澳洲。一来 ，有其他因素如父母移民，学业等等。二来，来个里应外合，内外包 抄也不错。我这是身在曹营心在汉。哈！
wendyneo 3 years ago
我觉得你不是暂时，因为第一，你拿了澳洲公民，就无法再做新加坡人了，第二，如果你要恢复新加坡国籍，你觉得行动党政府会批准吗？
georgelei1573 3 years ago
第一，我还没拿澳洲国籍-请读清楚我的profile。第二，根本没有第二。第三，你摆明是在诬蔑本人！
我对你这种处处质疑新加坡反对党的能力，处处质疑本人动机， 含沙射影，却还脸皮厚厚地说自己只不过是想讨论具体问题 - 感到厌恶！也看不起你 - 你没种开门见山地说出你那不可告人的目的。
wendyneo 3 years ago
你生为中国人，来我这儿贬低新加坡反对党，诬蔑我，捧PAP卵脬 ，恰恰好符合了我在每一个录像的"more info"里写的关于中国人的部分。我吁请你去读多几遍，多多受教。省得我多费唇舌。他妈的你！
wendyneo 3 years ago
wendyneo小姐，由名字上看来你应该是为小姐。请你少用如笨蛋，卵脬之不雅字眼。那只能够凸显小姐您那粗俗的人格。哪有资格谈政治。可能政治本来是肮脏的，对你来说脏上加脏更为刺激。
ywfox2008 3 years ago
凡是言之有物的，都有资格谈政治。本录像就是言之有物。本小姐因此非常有资格谈政治。哈！
言语粗俗与否，都不会影响资格。除非你对内容不感兴趣，只对措辞有兴趣。倘若如此，是在本末倒置。
wendyneo 3 years ago
凡是只会做人身攻击或拍马屁的，都不应以为本小姐会因不雅，而不予以回应。是拍马的，本小姐会如实说是在拍马。更加不堪入目，明显是在捧卵脬的，本小姐亦会如实照说。至于在舔痣的，更别期望本小姐不一针见血地指出。
舔痣二字，出自孔子。阁下认为孔子人格粗俗？
wendyneo 3 years ago
I am an Australian PR and will become a citizen after I turn 21 (very soon!)
这是你自己写的吗？白纸黑字还要抵赖，是不是诚信太低了一点？Credibility都没有了，还骂PAP, 谁相信呢？
georgelei1573 3 years ago
Credibility 应该是对事不对人。本小姐的录像里所说的，全是实话。当然有credibility.
你现在是要做人身攻击，却偏偏幼稚得可以，我有什么办法？呵呵！
wendyneo 3 years ago
if the country is worth fighting for,i believe there are pple who would defend for the land!take WW2 heros(singapore),no one in their right state of mind wld choose to fight for a country that is in war,but those heros i.e. lim bo seng fight despite knowing that going against the japanese have DIASTEROUS results!yet they are willing to fight to defend their land!if this country has a lower cost of living but retain the same standard of living,more singaporeans will stay
reallydead 3 years ago
Honestly speaking though,I don't really hate those immigrants from China mainland.(My block has one family from Shanghai.)They came here with a mindset to have a better life and to send their kids to good schools.However,I think they have to know how the S'pore govt is making use of them to further this 'sinister' agenda.
aldeayea 3 years ago
I remember that in a GE 2006 PAP rally,Minister Ng Eng Hen said something like this:'S'pore is not the worst country in the world.'And to be frank,I think he's right.B'cos S'pore isn't a country at all in the first place.(I had said this to Wendy before)S'pore is more like a MNC.If you want to leave,nobody would stop you.The govt would just get immigrants from China mainland to fill in those 'empty' places and also to make sure S'pore's population composition wouldn't change so much.
aldeayea 3 years ago
oh yeah.goodbye. (just in case you thought i was too rude to say that and i suggest you use your time more appropriately rather than hiding behind the comp to wait for ppl to comment)have a meaningful life! :)
msbacardi09 3 years ago 5
Ouch! Thanks for your final personal attack. lol. Don't worry. I do balance my time appropriately for myself, my family and my Singapore. The comments are not for you. Why would I write in such great details just for you? Don't be egoistic. It's for the reading of every Singaporean who chance upon this video today and in years to come. You are simply someone that provided the appropriate questions for me to provide the approproiate answers.
wendyneo 3 years ago
(cont) No doubt your thinking are similar to those of many pro-pap Singaporeans of your profile - So thanks for letting me know how they think & have the opportunity to learn how to answer such qn quickly. That's how I was able to do my Q&A FROG video. U have been a gd boy. Thanks! lol
Use your time appropriately too. I suggest spending some time thinking abt your future under a dictatorship, rather than just studying for exam, going cinemas and shoppoing. Have a meaningful THINKING life :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
BUT ANYWAY.u have ur own view and im entitled to mine. and i don need U to educate me on how to view wot's right and wrong. OH YAH,if till now, you still think i've insulted you becos of the "africa" thing, then that's too bad, becos i don't have any intentions of personal attack when i wrote it, believe it or not. alriteee. that's about all i've to say, i don't really have that much time to spend 24hrs/day to rebutt people's opinion like u. We, true Singaporeans, have much better things to do:)
msbacardi09 3 years ago 6
Yes, u don't have much time. You have exams. Poor boy!
Indeed, I do not doubt you and some SINKIES have better things to do such as shopping, wathching tv, going movie, than to have an interest in politics, to think hard abt your future living in a dictatorship, and the plight of fellow Singaporeans. No wonder LKY look down on his unthinking slaves, even though they support him, and he prefers to import FTrash to replace them! lol
Lucky for SG, some REAL SINGAPOREANS have political interest.
wendyneo 3 years ago
yes, i might not be 40, 55 or 80. But i know that when my dad get retrenched a few years back, help was given to me immediately through the government in school, pulling me through the hardest period of time. yes, you can still call me a bootlicker, but im not siding the govt for nothing. Singapore might not be the biggest country, but there's still so many PEOPLE to look after, they needed talents. talents come at high price. welcome to the real world, like it or not.
msbacardi09 3 years ago 6
Good for your dad and *SOME* people. But I did not make up the videos of those elderlies in the street. They are all over Singapore. Do you not visit hawker centres and see those 80 years old clearing plates? Just because your dad got help, does't mean the rest of us are seeing imaginary ghosts! So, STEP OUT OF COCOON, and open your eyes and visit places in sg that you don't visit!
The foreigners are NO TALENT. They are here to cheapen your wage. Welcome to the real world after u start working!
wendyneo 3 years ago
hey u know wat back in the 90s,my dad was unable to work because that time there is a disease with the pigs,so he cant work(he sells pork).govt nv help my family.my dad and mom worried day in day out and had depleted most of their savings juz to tide through that period(mind u my parents are not well educated)they even cancelled on my sis and mine insurance policy(its those type die die muz pay till me and my sis 15 yrs old de)
reallydead 3 years ago
OF COURSE, you could have say the govt should pick them up, stop them from collecting paper cardboards and cans, give them some money, give them a good life. so if that's the case, who would work in their younger age since they will still be supported by the govt in the future?
"Govt can give me money what. I'm sure they wouldn't want elderly to pick up cans and cardboards in the future, ruin image leh. Work so hard for now for WHAT?"
msbacardi09 3 years ago 4
Welfare does not reduce work ethics - unless you are brain-washed by pap and can only regurgitate its official line.
Finland has the most welfare (and highest tax). It has one of the most vibrant economy despite lack of natural resource. It's birth rate is high and none of them is emigrating to sg. After LKY said sg better finland, lots of bloggers have dugged out studies showing otherwise. READ WIDELY!
All developed countries have *some* welfare. Did pple in USA work? UK? READ WIDELY!
wendyneo 3 years ago
and LOOK. yes, maybe those elderly did contribute, they did work hard, where's the prove? why didn't they save up? why didn't they contribute to the CPF so later in the years, they would be able to get enough to go through their life? Don't tell me the govt eat up their money while many other citizens are enjoying their retirement on the CPF they save up on?
msbacardi09 3 years ago 5
Yes, the govt ATE UP THEIR MONEY via inflated HDB price which depleted CPF savings. Plus there were no cpf back then! Plus, odd job labourers and "self-employed" hawkers and karung guni men need not (have no money to) contribute to CPF! Plus, their salary could not keep up with inflation. Plus, some people are disabled. Plus. some have to support large family etc etc. GET SOME REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE PLEASE!
Others are able to enjoy because they started out opposite - high edu, filial kids etc
wendyneo 3 years ago
DID PAP initially got those HIGH pay when they start working for Singapore? Didn't they prove themselves first to be capable of bringing up Singapore to where it is today? YEAH, if you want me to give you $1,000,000 because you prove yourself as the BEST econs teacher, you helped me get an A for econs, WHY NOT?
msbacardi09 3 years ago 4
No, PAP did not initially get those high pay. It's only after LKY's peers have left and that despot runs his 1-man show that corruption is legalised.
Other equally good econs teacher teaching other students charge only $200 even after they have brought their F9 students to A1. But I, with no proof, claim myself to be the "BEST", and demand $1,000,000 AND demand the same pay thereafter despite your result now slipping from A1 to C6 due to my subsequent incompetence. YOU PAY? IT'S A RIP OFF!
wendyneo 3 years ago
oh.. and btw.. how do you know that people are not suffering in Italy, UK, USA, Japan, France.. blar blar blar? how do you know there's no corruption? HOW DO YOU KNOW the figures are honest? WHY do you just take what those governments say rather what your OWN government says?
msbacardi09 3 years ago 5
UK, USA... sure have govt corruption. Every country does. But, it's illegal in those countries and thus a) occur on smaller scale (instead of yearly guaranteed income + increase too!) b) can be arrested and punished one day (eg. Taiwan's Chen Shui Bian , Philippines' Marcos etc).
In Sg, ministerse are like NKF's Durai. U can't get Durai to return his legal $600,000 salary. The corruption is legalised already!
get the diff?
wendyneo 3 years ago
msbacardi09, I don't take what ANY govt say. All govt cannot be trusted because absolute power corrupt absolutely. That's why it is so important to have check and balance in the form of democracy so that a) we have two parties checking each other, and b) we can kick out one party without goin thru a coup when it's not performing.
wendyneo 3 years ago
(cont)Free media is impt too. Eg: we never hear of even 1 case of innocent pple kana hanged in sg! In USA, after DNA is used, many people on death row exonerated. If u not brained-washed, u will realise it's impossible that:
sg - all judges judged correctly for all 40 yrs despite highest death sentence in world.
usa - jury lousy
Clearly, if u think hard, u will say USA has free media to lobby for cases to be re-opened and to expose truth.
What if 1 day U end up on death row despite innocence?
wendyneo 3 years ago
(cont)This death row is just an eg. What about other governmental wrong-doings? how come we hear abt sh*ts occuring in USA, UK, but never in Sg? No police beat up criminals to death? No skeletons in the closet?
Don't just study econs. Study history! history tell us that when dictatorship falls, all skeletons come out and taiwan just got one recently!
If u truly love sg (like I do! ahem), u will want DEMOCRACY & FREE MEDIA even if u r living (temporarily) ok. This means PAP must be kicked out.
wendyneo 3 years ago
(cont) Thus I support patriotic Singaporeans who work for democracy and free speech and who expose govt wrong-doings to others even foreigners (similar to you telling your friends how bad your MAID is and seek their tips on how to get rid of her). And I look down on dictators who deliberately say PAP=SG and that putting down PAP is being unpatriotic.
Get it? (As u can see, when u dun anyhow make personal attacks (as defined earlier), I am willing to "teach" you very nicely :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
>"how do you know that people are not suffering in Italy.."
Apart from SG, no other country has 80 yrs old still eking out a living collecting cans/cardboards! The homeless there are mostly drunkards, mentally unstable etc, not elderlies who have contributed and now enjoying welfare.
Lim Hoon Heng said:"retirement will be history". So, yes, u r doing well now but can u not see your future at 80 yr old thru these elderlies?
So, either emigrate or fight pap, or be like me, do a half/half. lol
wendyneo 3 years ago
All these already dealt with in my FROG video. Do yourself a favour. See it 1st b4 questioning me on things which I have already answered there! That makes u sound less naive and raise the level of debate too. ok?
wendyneo 3 years ago
yeah yeah. calling people who thinks that PAP is right bootlickers? come on woman, i side PAP because i feel that i live a stable enough life under them, that's why i give m support to them. in case you thought im one of the government officers, im only a student.
msbacardi09 3 years ago 5
>"calling people who thinks that PAP is right bootlickers?"
No. It's calling people who tell me (paraphrased) "if you not happy, get out of sg and go africa. Don't come back. we won't miss u here" that they are boot-lickers! And it's justified.
I have already explained that. I thought u can read?
wendyneo 3 years ago
>"i side PAP because i feel that i live a stable enough life under them"
I know. And that's because you are:
1. not 40 year old, replaced by foreigners.
2. not 55 and cannot withdraw cpf
3. not 80 and find that u have to collect cans at hawker centres.
4. not able to realise that u will reach those age one day.
5. not able to see that *some* welfare will not bankrupt sg.
Or, u simply have no empathy for the down trodden and u think you won't suay suay reach those stages.
Folly, my fren. Folly
wendyneo 3 years ago
AND YES. our officers get much higher pay than other officers. WHY? because capable people are rare in Singapore. do you study economics? would you like me to explain to you? when supply is low, demand is high THUS a higher price must be impose, get it???
msbacardi09 3 years ago 4
Don't use "economics" to give excuse for legalised corruption! It's pathetic! If ALL developed countries can get capable men at $X, we can to.
In fact, Ministers are telling us now that if we do not raise their pay by a million(!!), they will quit office and resign. That's a clear indication they are selfish bastards and not fit for office.
Do you need me to explain to you that you have been brain-washed to accept a lousy excuse for what would be known as corruption in other country?
wendyneo 3 years ago
You pay PM > leader of Italy + France + Germany + USA + UK + Canada + Spain COMBINED.
Do you see Sg's living standard > those 8 countires COMBINED?
We r below even any 1 of the countries (see my "FROG video" if u disagree and want to talk abt crime rates etc in those countries. It's already dealt with there).
wendyneo 3 years ago
Why not like this - u pay me $1,000,000 to be your economics teacher. Because I tell you I am the best teacher. So accept it that I am indeed the best. Remember, capable econs teacher are rare in sg. When supply is low, deman is high, THUS, paying me 1 million must be imposed. Get it?
After paying me, if you fail your econs, it's due to you being "complacent" (LKY's word) or external factor beyond my countrol ("world economic ressiion"), but if you succeed it is due to my effort.
OK?
wendyneo 3 years ago
erm supply for quality pple i dun mind,but mind telling me how a useless wong ken seng let a TERRORIST like mas selemat run away and still die die hang on to his title?mind u its already 6 months le...keke singapore soooo "efficient" right?
reallydead 3 years ago
so.. i don know how the hell you saw it as a personal attack, BUT NVM. different minds.
OH. talking about PERSONAL ATTACK, i think YOU are the person who has more knowledge on it, eh?
oh yeah. PAP is so corrupted that they subsidise our education and yet is able to pay teachers decent pay. PAP is so corrupted that they gave help packages to the citizens.
msbacardi09 3 years ago 4
our edu is "subsidised" v. little!! Eg:
Pri/Sec - sch buses and lunch not free.
Uni - tuition fee v. high. Public overseas uni charge much less for citizens, and almost double for foreigners!
Help package NOT given to citizens!!
1. collect too much via disguised tax (inflated hdb price, cpf) and return (not give) only a bit to citizen.
2. elderly work till death, no pension. See:
youtube com/watch?v=B3DyWJp-aXU
PAP is so corrupted AND despite that, still refuse to help citizens.
wendyneo 3 years ago
HAHA. Wendyneo. funniest joke i ever heard, you being patriotic? so is that why (if im not wrong when i read other comments in other websites) you MOVED to somewhere else already? IF the government here is so corrupted as you SAID, then why did you run away instead of staying to fight? no guts?
NO. i was NOT doing personal attack, don't get your over paranoid heart take over your BRAIN please. im trying to point out how people in Africa are suffering due to their incompetent government..
msbacardi09 3 years ago 4
PATRIOTISM has many level:
Lowest - don't speak up, but don't carry balls for dictator
Higher - write blogs to expose dictator but do so anonymously
Even higher - make 25 time-comsuming videos painstakingly to expose dictator even after following parents to Aust. That's me :)
Highest - Chee. JBJ - the type that you mention.
So my guts is already quite high. How abt yours? No gut to even be at the lowest level and at least keep quiet and be "neutral"?
wendyneo 3 years ago