Message to Geraldine Ferraro about the race cards she plays!

[PriaNorm]

Does Geraldine Ferraro hate black men who are smart and chosen by the people to be the Dem candidate?

[diepiriye]

Can't speak for her, but I doubt that she hates many folk at all. She seems far too progressive and active to hold onto that much hate.

[OctoBox]

"House negroes" were not "mixed" they were black, stable and trustworthy -- as much as a mistreated slave could or would.

I can't argue with your analogies because it would require too much work to explain the Constitution, the Oath of Office, and each candidates voting records -- not that you wouldn't get it or that you don't understand, but your comments suggest there's a step missing. Like if I wanted fashion advice, it would be better to come to you then to trust my own judgement, snap1

[diepiriye]

Hmmm...I do know fashion, not that this knowledge has brought me any funds. But I really feel very strongly about this election and the place of typical American forms of inequality.

[OctoBox]

Dipi: I like your style and the way you comment on things.

Keep on Keeping on.

[diepiriye]

Thanks. I appreciate the encouragement.

[DreamsInPixels]

I'd like for you to explain it...I'm a former Political Science major and a law graduate. Please, do explain how the oath of office is somehow relevant to his points. Also, I love spirited constitutional debate and I am fully aware (as much as is possible) of records of both candidates...as well as others. So please, let ME know what you think the original poster couldn't possibly grasp.

Also, just an fyi, "house negroes" were usually of blood relation to their enslaver. Just an fyi.

[OctoBox]

Dreams: I have a Masters in Economics and an interdisciplinary degree (B.S) in Political Science and Econometrics/Statistics.

It was a logical step and the first place I go when assessing a candidate - "are their votes constitutional, since that's the oath they take." Barack is not a constitutionalist.

FYI - House Negroes were not blood relatives (as a majority) by any stretch of the imagination -- You could not prove this and since you challenged me I'd ask that you site your sources.

[DreamsInPixels]

Octo, I don't like to use the term "house negro" in all honestly, so let's say "house slave" (I don't like that term either, but oh well). If you would like sources cited, you can easily go to wiki and read under the treatment of slaves. More importantly, there are several documentaries that point to this practice, tons of historical data...and most obviously, the Jefferson/Hemmings story is an excellent example (she was the half-sister of his wife). This topic is really depressing. :0(

[OctoBox]

Jefferson/Hemmings was not "common" story. This is another example of solids vs mixed blk ppl. I'm mixed myself, so this is not a new argument for me. I'm a statistician by training and I'm telling you it is numerically and logically impossible for there to have even been a predominance of mulatto house slaves. Most of the "rape" happened in the house - and that is where the mulatto child came from and was "shipped off." This is a sad topic. Did you know blacks and indians owned black slaves?

[DreamsInPixels]

I'd like for you to explain it...I'm a former Political Science major and a law graduate. Please, do explain how the oath of office is somehow relevant to his points. Also, I love spirited constitutional debate and I am fully aware (as much as is possible) of records of both candidates...as well as others. So please, let ME know what you think the original poster couldn't possibly grasp.

Also, just an fyi, "house negroes" were usually of blood relation to their enslaver. Just an fyi.

[DreamsInPixels]

Also, this is pretty common knowledge. People often say the person was simply of a lighter complexion, but this is not entirely accurate. The person was usually of blood relation (though obviously not always). A good starting point for you to learn more about this would be research from Professor HL Gates. Also, there's a book, Freedom's Daughters, by Lynne Olson that also discusses the practice. But don't limit yourself to those; you can find this info in most legitimate historical research.

[OctoBox]

Dream: Like I said you can't really site sources, like a direct link. This is not common knowledge it does not make statistical sense that more than 20% of "house slaves" would have been mixed. I went to wiki and it never said that house-slaves were mixed, as a rule. I'm sure there were some. But it was the house slave and the raping master that made "mixed" babies - so someone was black in that equation. I think your rational does not fit the census of the time. Let's drop this one.

[DreamsInPixels]

Octo, feel free to drop it if you wish; like I said, this is a depressing topic imho, so I really don't wish to engage anyone in it. Like I said, it may behoove you to research what was mentioned as opposed to immediately discounting it. I gave you a few starting points, but I don't really like the idea of "educating" an adult, no offense. In regard to the whole "mixed" thing - I'm East Asian and Black, but I don't feel this is relevant to my earlier comment, nor my perspective. Best wishes...

[OctoBox]

Like I said I went to Wiki, so there's one link debunked. I'm not going to run out and buy a book -- so that link is useless.

Believe me I'm "feeling you" on the not wanting educate an adult, debunking is even worse. Especially when a little statisical thought and a minor inkling on black, mulatto, quadroon, octoroon census of the time that it would be impossible for "all" (as you implied) or even more than 20% of "house slaves" to be mixed. Yes there were some, of course.

[sovietjoybuzzer]

Goddamn, thank you, godDAMN! I'm not sure that very many of these white media folks really know what racism is; to them, it's just something that hurts their reputation/career if imputed to them. Sorry to say that the mainstream media, so far as I can tell, is not treating race any more seriously today than a week ago.

[1OriginalQueen]

So many wonderful points. I keep hearing Hilary talking about healthcare as if that is the end all be all of America's problems. IT IS NOT! Racial issues have plagued America from day 1 and even Hilary has to admit that she cannot approach that issue in a more relevant way than Barack. After that speech he gave the other day IT WAS A WRAP. I was like where is the voting booth...can I vote today! I ignore ignorant statments (Ferraro). Barack is solutions oriented - they focus on foolishness.

[diepiriye]

Yes! And speak out about this mess. I don't live in America right now, but I am just wondering how this is being played out in the mainstream media, not to mention those conservative radio talk show hosts that much of white middle America listens to on the way to work.