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  • I'm a loser but really doesn´t matters alternate me is a billionaire man

  • Owlman is a servant of the Crimson King.

  • What a stupid theory.

  • Since in another reality batman fails, that would mean that owlman is wrong and that blowing up earth prime doesn't change anything.

  • The one thing I never understood was that since, in this dimension, Batman stops Owlman from destroying the world, won't that also mean that in some other dimension Batman doesn't stop Owlman and thus he destroys all reality? It seems that, no matter what you do, you won't be able to stop the destruction of all reality because someone in some alternate universe will be able to blow up Earth Prime.

  • @snakepit000 That's pretty much a part of the point, as far as I saw it. That's why Owlman, in his last moments, says "It doesn't matter". (At least, that's my take on it).

  • I wish Owlman could have succeeded!! Since energy cant be destroyed it can only change form it would have been interesting to see where they could have taken the story from that standpoint.

  • "It Doesn't Matter"-Owlman

  • Destroying all reality, thats like the ultimate villiany especially for a sick, twisted maniacal person like Owlman

  • Tell me you wouldn't want to play a sandbox game as this guy. Really, tell me.

  • Seriously it disgust me how some characters like Owlman get praised by fandom JUST BECAUSE he makes "so much sense." Am i the only one who remembers that he cares for nothing and no one and is attempting to kill everything in existence or am I just trippin balls?

  • oh lovely, and emo super villain. xD

  • Nihilism.

  • It doesn't matter.

  • science isnt why, its What if.

  • owlman reminds me of jigsaw from saw

  • LOL

    Owlman: here, the fish never stomped on land and human race didnt evolve.

    :DDDD

  • It makes not sense that destroying "Earth Prime" would destroy all of reality for several reasons:

    Earth is not the centre of the universe, and destroying it would hardly effect anything in the universe if one looks at the big picture. Also, blowing up "Earth Prime" only breaks that Earth into tinier pieces of rock in that universe. It's not like it cease to exist altogether.

    It does however make for an interesting plot in the film.

  • @LordEsel88 The earth prime is the origin of every parallel universe because they are born from every decision and action made and taken, if the earth prime is destroyed then every parallel universe will cease to exist....

  • @LordEsel88 It's obvious that destroying earth won't destroy every reality and the multiverse but it will destroy the planet earth of every reality....

  • @Saiyajinsoul86 I get your argument, but I still don't think it makes any logical sense that every parallel Earth will be destroyed by blowing up "Earth Prime". I also get that it is the decisions of living creatures (and their reactions to events) that create every parallel Earth. However, "Earth Prime" in this film has no life on it any more, and is therefore already "destroyed". Blowing it up should not change anything.

    But I did enjoy the film greatly despite the logical error.

  • @LordEsel88 Could of been simply avoided by making the dimension jumper device a time machine aswell. but then that would open whole new bags of logical errors. maybe their minds just blew up at the thought of it and went with the simple option.

  • @LordEsel88 The reason earth prime was destroyed was become some idiot probably choose to cause humanity to become extinct and his opposite choice would've created another universe. It is the opposite decision that causes a reality to exist not its consequence.

  • @LordEsel88 In this story, Earth-Prime is the root that all parallel earths hinge on. The destruction of Prime would cut off the root, the result being that the quantum structure of all earths would have no basis and thus cease to exist.

    Of course, in the books, Prime got destroyed along with every other universe, save the main DC'verse, but the destruction of prime had no impact on any other universe. They all were destroyed individually.

  • ID watch this movie, but somewere in the multiverse i wont so whats the point?

  • the thing i dont truley understand the logic behind this you destroy earth prime and say all Earths cease to exist ... Now that in some way makes logical sense however Mars prime dident get blown up or Saturn prime all but one planet of Universe prime would still exist .... so his action in destroying earth is just as meaningless as his speech.

    But mabye thats just me.

  • @KrimHyu You're right - he needs a bigger bomb. Just blowing up Earth-Prime still leaves you with Mars, Krypton, Thanagar, Rann, and many other extraterrestrial planets that still include sentient beings. If he really wants to make a choice, he'd take out the entire prime universe instead of one measly planet.

    Maybe he didn't know about those planets, but that would discount the existence of the alternate Martian Manhunter and Ultraman.

  • @f38stingray While it doesn't exactly make sense, I think DC designates the whole universe as Earth-Prime.

  • @evilemperordude Yeah, I always thought that was for readers' convenience, using a familiar location.

    Perhaps Owlman's bomb is bigger than I thought. The explosion at the end of the movie fills up the entire screen, plus Monarch's quantum detonation (I'll say they are probably of similar power) in Final Crisis Countdown took out an entire universe, as well.

  • @evilemperordude I think what Owlman was referring to was that Earth-Prime was the key component within the Multiverse that allowed all other Earths to exist, like a huge forest with 1 gigantic tree whose roots provide nourishment for the entire forest allowing all the smaller trees to live and If he destroys Earth-Prime It would create a massive energy ripple that would spread throughout all reality setting off a chain reaction that would destroy every Earth that has, does or ever will exist.

  • I LOVE OWL MAN! What good is a bomb, if you don't detonate it?

    the exact same brilliance as batman! only one's good and the other is evil. I just can't decide on who i like better?

  • he looks a bit slow 

  • RIP Dwayne McDuffie. He wrote this awesome thing.

  • It doesn't matter. Nothing matters.

  • So vain. Why does your action have to serve a purpose? Why not just exist?

  • she realizes he is proposing that they commit suicide right?

  • It's as simple as this. It doesn't matter if you're poor, because in an alternate reality, you're rich. It doesn't matter if you died, because in an alternate reality, you lived. it doesn't matter.

  • @FireStormBaller Makes me wonder if there are alternate realities besides the one we are in.

  • @MegamanNG It doesn't matter if you wonder if there are alternate realities because in an alternate reality, you don't wonder if there are alternate realities.

  • It doesnt matter 

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  • @BasmentGuy3000 Point out another species which has made art, culture, language and comedy.

    Or hell, point out another species on this earth that has created anything similar to the computer you are working on, the room you are in, or even that screen you are looking at.

    There's no denying that there are other races which have been naturally gifted greater skills. But we built what we were not born with, few others have ever done that. And none to so great an extent as us.

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  • @BasmentGuy3000 You forgot that other species are creating even bigger problems for this planet than we are. Do you know what's a bigger problem for global warming? Cattle, the biggest producer of CO2 emissions. Unlike them we are actually aware of our problems and try to counter them. Unlike every other species we have some self control. They very fact you are arguing and pointing out our flaws shows this.

    Tell me, when was the last time you saw a termite thinking about the environment?

  • @Tseuhadon reason why we have steak houses and burger joints.

  • @Tom3744 Food.

  • @BasmentGuy3000 As for your comments upon nukes, consider just how the Cold war would have turned out without them. We would have had nothing to stop a conventional war and we would have slaughtered one another. As would have any other Earth based species given the same position.

    You know why we didn't? Because we thought our way out, we knew the costs, we worked against it. We didn’t just rush in and do what our instincts and nature given programming would have told us to do.

  • BasementGuy3000, you may want to think about putting down the meth pipe and calling your Mom.

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  • this is the meaning of life: THERE IS NO MEANING! NO PURPOSE! NOTHING! (which is kind of sad, yeah) but great movie!

  • @DemiathDoomhammer Assuming that there are actually alternate realities. No proof has been produced about them besides a theory.

    For all we know we could be the only Earth and there is a single timeline. One existance and no others.

  • Owlman only has part of the picture...

  • If he pointed to a 5th earth and said something like " Here, we're just fictional characters in comic books drawn by geeks in their mother's basements" he would probably have been talking about our Earth and would be breaking the 4th wall.

  • if one Universe communicates with another, its technically outside the rules of Multiverse. Their choices are an Anamoly.

    Any decision they make between the two Universes dosen't effect the Multiverse.

    Right?

  • And I thought Harley Quinn had 'boyfriend' issues.

  • James Woods was the perfect person to voice Owlman.

  • @Scotttjt Damn right.

  • @Scotttjt Ooh, a piece of candy. 

  • Somewhere there's earth prime. Once we destroy it all reality will cease to exist. I love comic book logic.

  • I perfer the scene when he's on earth prime fighting batman. When they talking about destroying reality and how different they are. Though this scene is also very good.

  • One Loop hole in this movie...Batman takes the transit device to follow owl man and leaves the transit device to send owlman away from earth prime to some other parallel earth..now the question is..How did batman return back to earth (without he transit device) from the worm hole without being torned to peices by the event horizon?..

    earlier in the movie Luthor didnt allow flash to enter because the event horizon theory .

  • @sidoghosh i think there were two transit devices. The one owlman used to teleport to earth prime and the one batman used to get there through the worm hole. Batman notices it on owlmans belt when they're talking. Near the end of the fight owlman takes Batmans transit device and throws it to the ground. Batman managed to grab owlmans transit device off him before he tied him to the control panel. So he just used the other one that owlman had thrown to the ground to go back through the portal.

  • I take it we've all seen the movie, so...

    Doesn't this all mean that there's an Earth where Owlman did succeed in destroying everything?

  • @Shadowycrafter if it isnt this world.

  • You know I didn't realize the little wrinkle in Owlman's logi at first, but now I see it.

    It occured to me when he said his last lin "it doesn't matter". Which based on his view of the world means it doesn't matter since there was a reality created were he succeeded in destroying earth prime; ergo all of reality. So the plot has formed a reciprocal paradox. The only explanation is that Owlman was wrong about how each universe is formed. Still a cool movie though.

  • @AColonDashSix

    Owlman had the choice to abort the Q.E.D's detonation, but chose not to. THATS why he said it didn't matter.

  • @AColonDashSix I was thinking about this, too.

  • SPOILER: Owlman's beef was that nothing really mattered because somewhere else there was another version making a different decision or not even existing. Also, there are infinite parallel universes, right? He says if he finds the original universe all the others sprang from and blows up that earth, all the others will go, right? But he failed. But in some of the other universes ("some" would really also be infinite) he succeeded, or someone else did it. Which means it can't be done.

  • @aguyonhere

    That dont make sence. Destruction of Multiverse,  were only thing , what wouldnt created another universe, so , there isnt any universe, where he won.

  • @Ikarosus I can see how that's possible, but based on the story, there are infinite choices or situations, and so there are infinite universes. So there would be at least one where someone (Owlman or someone else) succeeded in blowing up Earth Prime. Really, in an infinite multiverse, there would be an infinite number of successes. So someone thinks they succeed, but they really don't? I don't know. You could say since Owlman is dead, from his view there is no more reality.

  • @aguyonhere Or the other versions chose not to do it or were all stopped in someway by someone or something because they didn't want that to happen, like in the 2-part series finale of the old 90's Spiderman animated series where the Beyonder rewound time and got 6 spider-men from other worlds to stop Spider-Carnage from destroying the infinite realities before it actually happened and they succeeded so the entire Multiverse remand safe, maybe that same sort of thing happened to the other Owlmen

  • @aguyonhere Or it can and has been done,but the multiverse comes back from the ashes.Like the idea that a Big Crunch will lead to a new Big Bang,only on a FAR greater scale.In some multiverses,he sucseeded.In some,Davros detonated the Reality Bomb.In this multiverse,he failed.Of course,one has to question why Earth is part of the Prime Dimension,and if only the dimensions with an Earth would be blown apart

  • @AColonDashSix Maybe the choices rule dosent apply when traveling between earths

  • @IAmEvilTree I was thinking that, too. But there would be choices like this also: Universes where the JLA and CS meet; Universes where the JLA and CS never meet; universes where these things happen but there are different people on the teams, etc. I'm just going on what the story provided. So there's a reality where someone succeeded because there are infinite choices. I agree somehow the attempt fails.

  • Last time on destroying world owlman works to find earth prime but then decides to use the Q.E.D to destroy all reality now to continue our new episode fo destroying world only on mtv

  • what was the quote in latin he said?

  • @BatX Ad infinitum is a Latin phrase meaning "to infinity."

  • "Get off my plane."

  • lol theres just one small problem. if owlman would've succeeded, superman & MartianManhunter would've lived. bcus they weren't born on earth, kryptonPrime and MarsPrime are not effected by earth

  • You can't destroy all the Earth's! Where are you gonna keep all of your stuff???

  • Best supervillian speech ever

  • The only thing I don't like about this movie is that Superwoman just goes along with Owlmans plan. I appreciate being evil.... but there has to be some logic and purpose of evil. She said many times she was interested in taking over universes, money, power, and well lust. I don't think her character would follow, it doesn't make sense. Otherwise great movie.

  • @nobledictator1278 It kind of does. A villain (from an ordinary person's perspective) is someone who crosses ethical lines that society creates for fairness and safety's sake. While many of us in society wouldn't kill or steal, she decided to cross that line, and amass power and riches in a bad way. She agreed with Owlman because she's bored. With this new revelation, she would have a hand in wiping out all of creation. It's selfish and terrifying...the ultimate evil act.

  • James woods voicing Owlman

  • Batman's one of the best superheroes because he'd make the best villain.

    I HAVE to see this movie!

  • There really would be no stopping an evil batman, his no kill policy is the only thing that keeps him in check.

  • superwoman looks like silk spectre

  • i like him better than batman

  • Sad part is he really makes so much fucking sense....

  • @Mujestu If alternate universes actually existed, you mean.

  • @Mujestu Scariest for of insanity is the kind that makes sense.

  • @Mujestu I agree, except the part about earth prime. that makes no sense at all.

  • @cmonutube think of the multiverse as branches off a tree, all splintering off other branches of thhe same tree.

    earth prime would be that tree......if that tree is destroyed, every single branch will follow.

  • @omegashinobi yup I got that much. I mean in a logical sense, that makes no sense at all. If they are all parallel universes whos to say that there even is an earth prime? i just think if parallel universes exist, more likely there is no 'real universe'. they are all the same in the context of actually existing.

  • @cmonutube

    But these universes are based on the opposite choice, so there would have to be an "earth prime" where it all started.

  • @AmericanNohbuddy would there be?

  • @cmonutube

    Don't know yet. You could buy some books on the physics of it and such, but it will probably blow your mind.

  • It's owlman's bio. U can find out the gist of it on his wiki.

  • That is one intensely disturbing bad guy...

    No wonder Superman calls Batman 'the most dangerous man on Earth' is this is what he'd get up to if he was EVIL

  • They're not even parallel versions of themselves.. They're 2 different people all together.

  • He's still the equivalent of Batman, even if he IS 'Thomas Wayne Jr.' or something like that (It was Owlman's identity in the "JLA: Earth-2" comic released a while back)

  • I know who he is. He's Bruce's older brother and he became Owlman after bruce and his mother died or something. I just assumed from what u said that u thought they were the same person since u insinuated that bruce wud be like that if he were evil. So nm then

  • Just because he's Batman's brother in the comic doesn't prove that this is true in the movie adaptation.

    It could be a retcon: the writers purposfully changing the story to something they prefer.

    Just ask yourself, is Owlman more or less interesting if its not really Bruce? Sometimes retcons happen just because the story can be made more interesting.

    That certainly seems to be the case here. Owlman as thomas jr seems like obviously bad story arc to me.

  • @shadowslots I kind of wonder what would they would say if they found out but the writers didn't want to.

  • Whoa... intense.

  • NiteOwl wishes he was this badass LOL :P

  • its Night Owl and Silk Spectre!!! lol

  • the movie was spectacular

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