Jena 6 Dedication on What You Know About That instrumental

[solitary2911]

Part 2 ---no one will take it seriously if you cant show the same thought and perspective you do for black people if you don't also do it for white, in the same song would work well.

I do have a story i could tell you actually but ill do that via a message not comment.

[solitary2911]

Part 2 --- You make out that you want things to be even and equal and all this but where the hell are your videos from the other side of the story or ideally from BOTH.

You go smoke a blunt and reflect on that brother, no I'm not being racist either before anyone thinks about playing the racism card.

I like black people and Rastas and all other races equally despite all the shit that happens, it just makes me sad you didn't make things seem equal despite apparently wanting them to be.

[ConsciousL]

I agree it doesn't seem equal in this account, but I speak from a 'Black' perspective because I am Black. I have told many before you, I hate racism no matter who the racist or who the victim is and will gladly write a song from any perspective if someone of another race has a story to share. This song was written based on the story I had to share. The thought never slipped my mind that racism is multidirectional, but u do understand what I mean about perspectives right?

[solitary2911]

Part 1 --- Yeah but basically if black people are writing songs from a black perspective and white from a white, you have this difference again and its more likely to lead to further racism, ya know?

I understand where your coming from entirely but unless you can manage to do some research on some black on white and mix it in with the white on black then you come off as hypocritical in a sense.

[ConsciousL]

aah, ure right. We have to show it both ways, say it both ways, attack it both ways. I guess from my standpoint the issue is it's hard to relate both when you only live one side of it. For me, I have so much experience from my end of the spectrum but nothing from the other end and i think because i don't know how it feels for others, is why i can't paint the full picture, but I'm open to any input. I'm only fighting racists, not races.

[solitary2911]

Racism feels the same for white people as it does for black people.

Only if if the majority of white and black people are united and on the same team can anyone try to make a difference.

A song from both sides doesnt particularly need examples in, just things about hate and why, why shouldnt there be and any of these thoughts but balance it.

Ill keep in touch, i believe you mean well.

[solitary2911]

Part 1 ---You know, i thought you were going to be a pretty cool artist but you aint, all you do is go on about white on black and piss me off.

There's as much racism thrown at us and there's no need for it.

Were the new generation, we are not responsible for the past.

Racism will always exist because people like you hold grudges and grudges cause problems.

[wethepeople2433]

ok this is what i wanna know from any body that wants to answer black or white or whatever race why is this case so diffrent and what i mean is why is this case being charged as att murder but in other schools when a fight happens kids get suspended people in highschool get jumped all the time and all i heard that happend to them was they were suspended or throwed out why is this case difrent its not fair i dont think

[foliodell]

Mychal Bell has four priors, punched a girl in the jaw, & knocked a kid out from behind so he & his five friends could stand on his head & kick his brains in while the kid lay unconscious. That he's the poster child of the "New Civil Rights Movement" speaks volumes about the "movement," & the people who lead it. He's a punk-ass bitch. Let's see him get into a real fight, not with a female, & not in a six-on-one ambush. He doesn't deserve 20yrs, just a good father

[bluboy632]

Bobby Cox coach of the Atlanta braves slaped his wife. all walks of life have domestic problems. my point, what does that have to do with the jena six?

[RamblingRickyRhodes]

What does it have to do? You do realize Mychal Bell is the guy people are tryiong to portray as an innocent kid caught up in the system? He is the ONLY one of the group to be a minor when the crime was committed and who was intially tried as an adult. Who he is and the crimes he has committed are very relevant. And he;s committed far more than that. He has been let off time and time again. People WANTED him to make it as a football star, and he has no one to blame for squandering it but himself.

[sexychula19]

i agree with what ur saying xplicit2k your right finally someone with a brain

[FromJena]

I think there may be some valid issues here. If our local justice system did in fact overcharge these individuals based on color (which an investigation into the patterns of past cases should show that if it exists), I think this issue needs to be addressed nationally. I feel the black community should focus on these issues, and not make the Jena 6 out to be heroes, which they are clearly not.

[CounterRevolutionary]

Here's a video of Robert Bailey Jr, one of the so-called "Jena 6," he has been receiving tens of thousands of dollars in CASH donations, which he keeps at home in his bedroom.

He was bragging about it on MySpace and put pics of himself rolling around with 100 dollar bills, and putting them in his mouth... they've since been taken down but here they are in all their glory.

youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=OAZQlgPO­8qc

[ConsciousL]

Unfortunately you must be one of those who weren't well-educated. Not to lash out at you or anything, but our Black Leaders aren't police, they were simply formed to ensure that we (as a Black Nation) are treated fairly and equally in this society by other races who tend to think we are inferior. Black on Black crime is just plain dumb, but it's every Black person's responsibility in the first place to not commit such crimes, or any crime at all.

[RamblingRickyRhodes]

You are right concious about personal responsibility, but I think xplicit is questioning why they waste energy on violent criminals when there are plenty of real victims out there and real cases of injustice that they should be focusing on.

[randalmatthewstewart]

Honestly, black people are just trying to find something else to complain about.

[biggluciano]

hey randal I'm white n ur bout to get stomped out for that shit u said bitch ass redneck honkey

[sighn1]

Free the jena 6!

[triflind]

Integration should have never been forced. All other animals respect this.

[jamesmc0]

This is bunch BS I'm white and I got in fight with black guy and I was facing 4 felonies 5 years for each and got stuck with the stupid public defender who couldn't even recall her clients names. I filed 3 complaints with offices of public defender in state capital trying get new lawyer they didn't give shit about me and I'm white why ppl making big deal because they black shit look at oj he got off with killing people he was black

[ConsciousL]

You said you were facing 4 felonies, 5 years each. I just want to to know, what was the final verdict?

[scotplaya]

I'll support the JENA 6 unless the black on white double murder of Shannon Christian & Christopher Newson is considered a hate crime.

[sexychula19]

this entire world just sucks whats the point if living in it if so many of you are just gonna hate each other and just because of skin color, skin color people do you know how dumb that sounds thats its like saying you dont like someone for wearing a green shirt or something else thats realy stupid

[FromJena]

Please refrain from apocalyptic thoughts about our society. Cases like these always attract extremists from both sides, certainly when they know they can speak anonymously without any fear of repercussion.

[sexychula19]

no offense but what you said has nothing to do with what i said because i wasnt having about apocalyptic thoughts or even talking about that and i wasnt talkig about just one society i was talking about the whole world and i wasnt saying anything bad it was my own opinion thats all

[banzaidawan]

Along with the taser event at the Kerry speech, this Jena 6 is being watched all over the world.

I'm posting from Mainland CHINA.

[thankgodImwhite]

You guys pull some stupid shit and see what happens. I will be watching how the police beat "peaceful" protesters. Get real. You wanted hate crime laws passed, now you have them! Enjoy!

[Alphamale69]

steed my brother is just telling it like it is. things that worked years ago, may not work now. the enemy is stronger and more crafty. marching & singing can only go so far. If I saw a group singing, I'd join in & do a couple of verses! I'd think they were auditioning for American Idol! We've got to let these people know we are tired of this mess. Come on the 20th Steed. Bring the Pain!

[Alphamale69]

NotfromJena and jay...that exchange is priceless! LOL! Let him escort you to the courthouse. You'll never be heard from again! LOL! You can check in, but you can't check out! Jay, you might want to sit this one out. I'm serious. They can smell fear a mile away & would eat you alive! Watch it on tv with NotfromJena...pop some corn & down some brewskies.

[steed3256]

I did not say burn anyones home..reread and do not have to create a reason. There is no REASON for this harsh punishment but it has been created already and will continue. At some point you got fight back and stop being passive. Some times u have 2 take 3 steps back to go 10 years forward.

[jayisajus]

I did read your post, and all you are talking about in inciting violence. Who cares if innocent people get caught up in the crossfire so long as you get to exercise your need for revenge. You think violence in going to move us forward, no it is going to move more of us to the jails, more of us who can not vote, more of us who are behind bars instead of raising our children. It is a sad day when humans can not find another way of getting their point across except by hurting other people.

[LaVetraR]

1st of all it aint about slavery and 2nd of all a different blk kid got jumped by white kids at a party, didnt nothing happen to them, maybe i should go out post acracker sign at a white persons house, and end up getting jumped by a bunch of white girls, nothing would happen, same stuff!!!

[FromJena]

Correction:  the instigator of the fight (white guy) at the Fair Barn plead guilty to misdemeanor assault.

[jayisajus]

The reports I am hearing claim that a GLASS BOTTLE was broken over bailey's head so how does this guy get off with a misdemeanor and the black kids get 2nd degree battery the weapon the DA said was tennis shoes. Good old Jena justice at it's finest.

[FromJena]

I have Robert Bailey's eye witness statement (from Lasalle Parish courthouse). He gives one statement for both the Gotta Go incident and the Fair Barn incident. He mentions nothing in his statement about a beer bottle. That doesn't strike you as odd? That's a big detail to just leave out of your statement.

[jayisajus]

I do not know if all the reports I have heard are 100% the truth just like I do know if the things you are stating on here are true. I he did not put that in his statement the all these reports are flat out lying. If I was not afraid I would go my self to the court house while I am there and see for myself

[FromJena]

PLEASE GO TO THE COURTHOUSE, Jay. I BEG YOU TO GO TO THE COURTHOUSE!! I was try to take off work and personally escort you to the courthouse if you want me to. I can't believe you'd say you're afraid to walk in our courthouse. That really saddens me that the story is so damn skewed that black people outside of Jena are AFRAID to walk in our courthouse.

[jayisajus]

I am afraid to come into your courthouse, stores, or anything else on Sept 20. I already know as I have been warned by so many residents of Jena, that the police will be there looking for a reason to lock someone up. I can not risk getting caught up with someone(not you) who may attempt to hurt me and not return home to my children. I do not want to take the chance on getting accused of doing something wrong, so I guess I will get the records through some other means.

[steed3256]

Average income in jena is $13k ($21k nat. avg.). These are some poor rednecks...burn their main industries to the ground. Make the police and fire depts. do some real work for a change. Spread them out all over town at the same time. Have the nat. guard deployed. Now your politicians will feel the pressure. Now you have serious dialouge.

[jayisajus]

uncalled for, truly uncalled for and your words serve no purpose other than to push the backwards notion that violence will change things, all that will do is create a reason to have more young men in prison. Destroying anyones home or town is not the answer.

[thankgodImwhite]

meantime you give blacks a bad rep. That's really smart.

[opieduct]

Do not believe what the websites post.

A couple of the Jena 6 had previous arrest records.

[ConsciousL]

And...?

[fjenkins1]

If this is an example of how justice is administered in Jena, I'd be surprised if they didn't have records.

[jrsone2]

does that mean that hanging nooses in a tree is alright?

[FromJena]

No it's not. Most people in Jena think they should have been expelled. The media never mentions any of this, though, do they?

[anonymouslyty]

Free da Jena 6 im posting this stuff on my myspace support this cause and free the jena 6

[shifta187]

good song! free the jena six! fuck racism!!

[FromJena]

fuck gangbangs, too

[villdeal2]

i like this video. just need to be longer. i am formerly of Jena.WHO PUT THIS ON HERE.WHO'S SINGING THIS SONG.

[ConsciousL]

My Name is Adrian Grandison (Conscious Lyricist). Saw the story and just had to do this. I coulda a wrote a longer song but I wanted to get it up ASAP. Maybe I'll write more and do an extended version.

[villdeal2]

Thanks for the song. Songs really good. I am from Jena. Hopefully you can do a longer version and do a song of the outcome of the cases. Keep up with the stories, because BIG PEOPLE are involving themselves in the case. 7/31/07, involves a march in Jena for The Jena Six. Our local TV station is KNOE TV. Thanks!!!!

[ConsciousL]

Hi, umm, I am trying to possibly write and extended version of the song, but I just have one question... What is Bush doing to help? And as a matter of fact, what is the U.S. government doing to help?

[Frostbittay]

Hey, like 2Pac would said "They don't give an

f**k about us".

[ConsciousL]

I see. I had assumed that much. I just had to be sure. Thank You for replying.

[Frostbittay]

No prob. ^-^

[ydaven5150e]

The only racist here is AL SHARPTON. yeah i said it. im not racist but i know damn well he is. Let the court punish these criminals. ill bet if a bunch of blacks beat up a bunch of whites, u wouldnt even care. slavery ended a long time ago. so get over it. stop acting like these 6 thugs are freakin saints. a crime is a crime. any time something happens to someone whos black its always "blame the white guy". im sick of that.; quit bein ignorant. This song licks ass by the way.

[jayisajus]

Only racists tell blacks to just get over slavery, do not tell me how to think or feel about my history. If America was fair in the first place and whites not so racist the nooses would have never been hung and none of this crap would have happen. It is people like you that encourage me to March on Jena and every other bigot town in America

[FromJena]

Fuck you and your accusations of bigotry. You know very little about Jena.

[jayisajus]

Yes and you know everything about every person in Jena, I saw a report where some white people in Jena say that they think the noose incident was just a prank. So where are all these people who you claim thinks those kids should have been expelled.

[FromJena]

I know some people who are friends with the noose hangers. They say they're 100% sure that it was meant as a joke. I've also heard from high school students that many black and white students were putting their heads in the nooses and laughing. It was the parents of the black students who got so angry. I don't know everything, but I know alot more than you apparently.

[jayisajus]

well anyone that would think of that as a joke definitely has some serious issues. My kids would never joke about anything so vile, says a lot about the parents. So according to the statement you've made apparently you look at it as a prank too.

[FromJena]

You need to get that bigass fuckin chip off your shoulder.

[jayisajus]

You need to get the chip you have on your shoulder off, I will not sink to your level and curse at you. But you defend what you want and have the nerve to cuss me because you can not force me to agree with you. Others may have cursed you but I never have so, knock the chip off your shoulder before trying to knock the one off mine.

[ConsciousL]

Ok.

[midnightriderbw]

The US Government sent an (african-american) investigator who determined that most of what has been reported about this is lies. He determined that there is no jurisdiction for the feds. It is not what it seems. Bush (who I hate) has NOTHING to do with this. The FBI determined they couldn't prosecute the noose hangers (who were EXPELLED by the principal, but it was changed by higher ups), because it was a free speach issue. And the assault charges are a local issue.