Hey guys I've a question, I just bought a cr7002a, which can play cds, vinyls and cassettes, but the problem is that whenever I play a vinyl on this devise the sound quality is not as crisp as cds or any other digital formats!!! I heard before that vinyls should have a better quality when it comes to sound,but the quality of my devise is not even as equal as mp3!Please someone tell me how i can fix this, if at all!!!!
This video is pointless. You are trying to compare two versions which one is compressed more than the other. 'Somewhere in Time' has a uncompressed version, and the one we are listening to is the 'enhanced' more compressed one. The only way to can contrast the mediums is if you listen to an actual turntable. Vinyl has a 96khz output where youtube downsamples to 41khz. Its like trying to watch 3d without the glasses.
I am really amazed. I didn't know that the difference was so remarkable. The CD is compressed all too much. You get some punch, gain, power, loudness, thunder and lightnin. But you miss the separation of the instruments. In fact it makes me a little angry: How can anybody allow cutting an original piece of art.
There's a really strange difference in quality among the remasters. The "Number of the beast" remaster sounds OK but this one sounds really horrible, I can't bear to listen to it on spotify... The original CD release of "Somewhere in time" sounds good though.
Wow! Didnt know the drums sounded so much better on the LP, I compared the same with children of the damned with LP and MP3, Ive noticed that vinyl seems to be have a faster more high pitched sound
Yeah... The remaster of this record sounds strange, I have the original released version and its much better sounding. They mixed it all wrong. So this is an unfair test against CD's. I have played some back to back such as Megadeths Peace sells from the original pressings of LP and CD and they really sound exactly the same.
The original CD was actually released in the mid-80's, around the time when CDs were being developed. If you want a good quality CD pressing, find the Black Triangle Japanese version of the album.
Also, you're comparing the original vinyl with the shitty remastered CD from 1998. Why bother? The '98 remaster is horribly done. It's abnoxiously loud, somewhat compressed, and clips where the peaks should have headroom.
I think you should re-do this video comparing the original CD.
Sorry I got the dates wrong. The original vinyl was released in 1986, and the original CD around the same time, because CDs were becomming more popular after it was introduced in 1982-83.
Also, my good friend mention something about Ortofone that wasn't around in USA but was available on German's e-bay. I was in $200 range and according to some audiophile magazine cartridge was in class D with cartridge worth few Grands. BTW tomorrow I am going to buy Systemdek IIX. I can wait to hear how this TT sound.
LoL, you are not cheap you just don't want to feel bad if something happen to the needle. I myself destroyed one and I was really mad at my self. I think I'd never get into MC if didn't get one already with a turntable. Unfortunately good sound is addictive. Of course, that doesn't mean that MM cannot sound great, but as you mentioned most of the time stylus itself cost as much as new cartridge so it seems to be that both MM MC will cost fortune no matter what.
Sumiko... i have been reading about Sumiko, and according to the reviews they are very nice indeed, however, what keeps me from buying one, is the fact that the stylus is non replaceable, so if you ever break the stylus, you will need to have it re-tiped (is that a word? anyway) or you'll have to buy a new one.
So my choices are Shure M97xE, or the Grado Prestige Gold (yes i know the stylus cost as much as the cartridge, but i am cheap lol), not to mention, no need for adjustments everytime.
Funny you ask, because i was about to ask you a similar question, lol, so as you can see I am not the best person to answer this question, i have always used Pickering, AKA Stanton, cartridges and stylus, but there are better no doubt, i too am looking into upgrading both the cartridge and preamp (circa 1972...)
I think It is time to change my belt. I cleaned the motor pulley and smaller inner plate sometime ago so I think It maybe a belt itself. I also printed page with strobe lines but none of lights I used have worked with it. I even asked in Radio Shack if they have such lamp but they didn't. BTW do you know any good MC cartridge around $250-400?
There is nothing like vinyl, i have that exact album, both cd and and vinyl (bought when it was released in Europe), recently i had my thorens TD 150 cleaned and tuned and wow, i never realized how the vinyl sounded so much better, everything is more defined in the vinyl than on the cd, so needless to say i have copied the Vinyl on to WAV with all its pops and hisses, and still sounds better than the CD.
@SAZodia Thanks for comment. I agree, Vinyl sounds better and I don't feel bad that I paid for this LP $35 (YEP). It was worth it. I just don't know why LP version plays little faster (It ended few seconds before CD). It could have been my Thorens, but I am not sure.
@Threemicsrecords , the only way you can find out if your Thorens is playing at the correct 33.3 rpm, is to have it checked with a strobe light, you can also try and clean the motor pulley with alcohol using a q-tip (taking care not to force the q-tip to hard on the pulley) and also clean the smaller inner plate,
@SAZodia i'm not sure how often you do this, but it is possible that with use the rubber from the belt can actually build up on the belt track and change the speed of the turntable (even though minimal it can be noticeable), so clean first, if it fails go for the strobe.
Can't believe I ever liked cd's. Almost all the ones made after 1990 were mastered poorly and sound like crap.
I have a cheap Audio Technica player I got on sale for $66, and even records I digitize on it sound better than modern cd's.
JoeyDrunko 2 months ago
Of course the vinyl sounds better, the mastering was done earlier, and earlier masterings always sound so much better.
Frostdaddy88 5 months ago
@Frostdaddy88 i like the old school production better but it's weird because i prefer the 1998 remasters of iron maiden's classic 80s albums.
chiaromontestephen 5 months ago
Hey guys I've a question, I just bought a cr7002a, which can play cds, vinyls and cassettes, but the problem is that whenever I play a vinyl on this devise the sound quality is not as crisp as cds or any other digital formats!!! I heard before that vinyls should have a better quality when it comes to sound,but the quality of my devise is not even as equal as mp3!Please someone tell me how i can fix this, if at all!!!!
TheLordOmen 6 months ago
its not CD vs vinyl that makes the difference. its the mastering.
canitasteyou321 7 months ago
Brickwall limiting is very apparant. Very good technical papers still available at TCelectronic about this problem.
oatstao 7 months ago
This video is pointless. You are trying to compare two versions which one is compressed more than the other. 'Somewhere in Time' has a uncompressed version, and the one we are listening to is the 'enhanced' more compressed one. The only way to can contrast the mediums is if you listen to an actual turntable. Vinyl has a 96khz output where youtube downsamples to 41khz. Its like trying to watch 3d without the glasses.
TheBackdoorwolf 7 months ago
I am really amazed. I didn't know that the difference was so remarkable. The CD is compressed all too much. You get some punch, gain, power, loudness, thunder and lightnin. But you miss the separation of the instruments. In fact it makes me a little angry: How can anybody allow cutting an original piece of art.
martingerup 8 months ago
LP WINS!
ToastmachineIdiot 10 months ago
fuck yeah ih have somewhere in time both on cd and lp the lp is killer !
Totalcrap666 10 months ago
There's a really strange difference in quality among the remasters. The "Number of the beast" remaster sounds OK but this one sounds really horrible, I can't bear to listen to it on spotify... The original CD release of "Somewhere in time" sounds good though.
coldfleshcolony 10 months ago
this isn't because of CD, but this is because of the Loudness War in effect. :/
xxhennersxx 1 year ago
My god, the CD sounds so much muddier and generally bad. I want to strangle the remastering engineer.
MarcoZ1ITA1 1 year ago
CD WINS !
IgorUptheIrons 1 year ago
Wow! Didnt know the drums sounded so much better on the LP, I compared the same with children of the damned with LP and MP3, Ive noticed that vinyl seems to be have a faster more high pitched sound
bronzeonion 1 year ago
all lp's are mixed much beytter it seems. even with brand new ones
drummerboy7516 1 year ago
that LP was amazing it sounds more like a jam.
j1nt3tsu 1 year ago
you can really tell the highs have been clipped off those drums on the CD version!
dimebagdave77 1 year ago
CD sounds much harder, LP sounds clearer.
FabianoEletron 1 year ago
Yeah... The remaster of this record sounds strange, I have the original released version and its much better sounding. They mixed it all wrong. So this is an unfair test against CD's. I have played some back to back such as Megadeths Peace sells from the original pressings of LP and CD and they really sound exactly the same.
Albee213 1 year ago
The original CD was actually released in the mid-80's, around the time when CDs were being developed. If you want a good quality CD pressing, find the Black Triangle Japanese version of the album.
Also, you're comparing the original vinyl with the shitty remastered CD from 1998. Why bother? The '98 remaster is horribly done. It's abnoxiously loud, somewhat compressed, and clips where the peaks should have headroom.
I think you should re-do this video comparing the original CD.
TheRimeOfIcarus 1 year ago
@TheRimeOfIcarus
Sorry I got the dates wrong. The original vinyl was released in 1986, and the original CD around the same time, because CDs were becomming more popular after it was introduced in 1982-83.
TheRimeOfIcarus 1 year ago
Also, my good friend mention something about Ortofone that wasn't around in USA but was available on German's e-bay. I was in $200 range and according to some audiophile magazine cartridge was in class D with cartridge worth few Grands. BTW tomorrow I am going to buy Systemdek IIX. I can wait to hear how this TT sound.
Threemicsrecords 1 year ago
LoL, you are not cheap you just don't want to feel bad if something happen to the needle. I myself destroyed one and I was really mad at my self. I think I'd never get into MC if didn't get one already with a turntable. Unfortunately good sound is addictive. Of course, that doesn't mean that MM cannot sound great, but as you mentioned most of the time stylus itself cost as much as new cartridge so it seems to be that both MM MC will cost fortune no matter what.
Threemicsrecords 1 year ago
Sumiko... i have been reading about Sumiko, and according to the reviews they are very nice indeed, however, what keeps me from buying one, is the fact that the stylus is non replaceable, so if you ever break the stylus, you will need to have it re-tiped (is that a word? anyway) or you'll have to buy a new one.
So my choices are Shure M97xE, or the Grado Prestige Gold (yes i know the stylus cost as much as the cartridge, but i am cheap lol), not to mention, no need for adjustments everytime.
SAZodia 1 year ago
Funny you ask, because i was about to ask you a similar question, lol, so as you can see I am not the best person to answer this question, i have always used Pickering, AKA Stanton, cartridges and stylus, but there are better no doubt, i too am looking into upgrading both the cartridge and preamp (circa 1972...)
SAZodia 1 year ago
@SAZodia I was thinking about this one Sumiko Blue Point No.2
Threemicsrecords 1 year ago
I think It is time to change my belt. I cleaned the motor pulley and smaller inner plate sometime ago so I think It maybe a belt itself. I also printed page with strobe lines but none of lights I used have worked with it. I even asked in Radio Shack if they have such lamp but they didn't. BTW do you know any good MC cartridge around $250-400?
Threemicsrecords 1 year ago
There is nothing like vinyl, i have that exact album, both cd and and vinyl (bought when it was released in Europe), recently i had my thorens TD 150 cleaned and tuned and wow, i never realized how the vinyl sounded so much better, everything is more defined in the vinyl than on the cd, so needless to say i have copied the Vinyl on to WAV with all its pops and hisses, and still sounds better than the CD.
SAZodia 1 year ago
@SAZodia Thanks for comment. I agree, Vinyl sounds better and I don't feel bad that I paid for this LP $35 (YEP). It was worth it. I just don't know why LP version plays little faster (It ended few seconds before CD). It could have been my Thorens, but I am not sure.
Threemicsrecords 1 year ago
@Threemicsrecords , the only way you can find out if your Thorens is playing at the correct 33.3 rpm, is to have it checked with a strobe light, you can also try and clean the motor pulley with alcohol using a q-tip (taking care not to force the q-tip to hard on the pulley) and also clean the smaller inner plate,
SAZodia 1 year ago
@Threemicsrecords Your speed is off.
UnchainTheNight1 1 year ago
@SAZodia i'm not sure how often you do this, but it is possible that with use the rubber from the belt can actually build up on the belt track and change the speed of the turntable (even though minimal it can be noticeable), so clean first, if it fails go for the strobe.
SAZodia 1 year ago