I agree u dont get the same punch with plug ins as you would with analog gear or mastering suites like adobe sound booth ,digital performer or a sound forge...
@crashdog5866 compression and limiting makes peaks fade, so guitars, voice, bass, cymbals, etc... come up. After compressing and limiting you have to make a little tweak on the levels.
@RainKingRecording soory but your wrong i have mastered using pro tools for a couple years now for artist such as pink taylor swift jayz eminem and so on pro tools is a great program for mastering if you know what you are doing
@mrjleeify No you haven't!!!!!! Hank Williams at mastermix masters Taylor stuff and he uses sadi i think. It does not have the dynamic headroom or ability to use the high end dithering algorithms that you need for mastering.
@RainKingRecording OH YA were you there to see it done and its called d.i.m. when mastering in protools and def has the ability to use high end you were abviously schooled in mastering at ytu(you tube university) how else would you not know that. ill post a video responce to this to prove it its not about dithering.
@RainKingRecording Im a music engineer not a english or writing major......but not only do you have no idea what im talking about you also dont have any idea of what your talking about
@remixerone@mrjleeify DAW's do not have the headroom. It's a fact!! Most mastering platforms process everything at 64BIT. NO DAW'S DO THAT CURRENTLY!!!!! You can not git a signal loud enough when you're pushing the edge of the 32 or 48 bit processing that DAW's offer. You don't have a leg to stand on man.
There are many other reasons as well such as dithering, Sampelrate conversion, and other things like that.
@bestplugins Yeah but we're talking about processing headroom. The bigger a bite the algorithm can take of the audio the better it's going to sound. Pro tools doesn't work like mastering systems. You can make it louder but It just doesn't sound the same.
@remixerone.......you obviously have been taught wrong as welldithering hasnt got anything to do with head room im woorking on a video to explain and a daw does do that ill prove it in my video responce
@Uruk666Hai the LE plugins are limited in their features and functionality... you can upgrade the ones you really need to the 'native' or 'full' versions ... for example i really love the ml4000 multi-band compressor but that's only available in the native version
i haven't ever seen the whole double limiter thing but it sounds nice. i'm fairly new to mixing, well... mixing the genre that i'm really into which is electronic and dance so it's really hard mixing in reason with a bunch of midi instruments. i usually end up using my waves limiter, bussing everything to an aux pre-fader but i STILL lose major volume. any suggestions?
did u buy those plug ins?? i have protools that has a plugins installer but it says "paid plugins" but when i installed it needs to pay on line.. by the way im using protools 7.4 le m-powered.. can u help me how to get those plugins?
I have a studio where I record artist using logic pro 8. My mixes are strong and loud but to me Im just not getting that big time commercial sound. Im using the adaptive limiter. Do you have any suggestions? Is the plugin your demoing the reason why your overall mix sound very commercial? Thank you
You know what is the commercial sound.. Air and light compression. (well in the hip hop rnb field) pop music nowadays is super over compressed and the famous loudness war.
I do rock stuff only right now, I compress tracks as needed for character and definition, i use a compressor on the 2-buss when i'm almost done mixing, or even after i'm done, and one of two mastering compressors depending on the band and the sound we're trying to finish off with...that's it.
I hate over compression!!! what he is doing is different. cuz when he stages his limiters he says he pulls the faders down a few db.. so in actuality its ok. he sounds very pro i must say.
I really want to know the name of this song and the artist please :)
thebrallychannel 1 day ago
Thank you. Great video!
spin467 2 months ago
I agree u dont get the same punch with plug ins as you would with analog gear or mastering suites like adobe sound booth ,digital performer or a sound forge...
djtwelvz 1 year ago
why does it sound like the drums are going away when the compressor is getting hit hard.
crashdog5866 1 year ago
@crashdog5866 compression and limiting makes peaks fade, so guitars, voice, bass, cymbals, etc... come up. After compressing and limiting you have to make a little tweak on the levels.
bestplugins 10 months ago
You CAN NOT master with Pro Tools. It doesn't have the dynamic headroom necessary to for mastering
RainKingRecording 1 year ago
@RainKingRecording soory but your wrong i have mastered using pro tools for a couple years now for artist such as pink taylor swift jayz eminem and so on pro tools is a great program for mastering if you know what you are doing
mrjleeify 1 year ago
@mrjleeify No you haven't!!!!!! Hank Williams at mastermix masters Taylor stuff and he uses sadi i think. It does not have the dynamic headroom or ability to use the high end dithering algorithms that you need for mastering.
RainKingRecording 1 year ago
@RainKingRecording OH YA were you there to see it done and its called d.i.m. when mastering in protools and def has the ability to use high end you were abviously schooled in mastering at ytu(you tube university) how else would you not know that. ill post a video responce to this to prove it its not about dithering.
mrjleeify 2 months ago
@mrjleeify Man you really need to work on you sentence structure because I have no idea what you're talking about.
RainKingRecording 2 months ago
@RainKingRecording Im a music engineer not a english or writing major......but not only do you have no idea what im talking about you also dont have any idea of what your talking about
mrjleeify 2 months ago
@RainKingRecording what?? you can get a good headroom on any DAW!! the tip is a good leveled recording using may be the "K" rules!!
remixerone 1 year ago
@remixerone @mrjleeify DAW's do not have the headroom. It's a fact!! Most mastering platforms process everything at 64BIT. NO DAW'S DO THAT CURRENTLY!!!!! You can not git a signal loud enough when you're pushing the edge of the 32 or 48 bit processing that DAW's offer. You don't have a leg to stand on man.
There are many other reasons as well such as dithering, Sampelrate conversion, and other things like that.
RainKingRecording 1 year ago
@RainKingRecording music ends with 16 bit, 44100 hz, so the final headroom is the same.
bestplugins 10 months ago
@bestplugins Yeah but we're talking about processing headroom. The bigger a bite the algorithm can take of the audio the better it's going to sound. Pro tools doesn't work like mastering systems. You can make it louder but It just doesn't sound the same.
RainKingRecording 10 months ago
@remixerone.......you obviously have been taught wrong as welldithering hasnt got anything to do with head room im woorking on a video to explain and a daw does do that ill prove it in my video responce
mrjleeify 2 months ago
@mrjleeify I think you're getting sample rate conversion and dithering mixed up. Dithering has everything to do with your headroom or quantization.
crashdog5866 2 months ago
whats the song called and where can i find it?
ragenlove1 1 year ago
ur good is this part of the ni platinum bundle
TuyenTurbo 2 years ago
just a clarification.
Which difference between MCDSP Project Studio Pack (with LE plugs) and those not LE?
Uruk666Hai 2 years ago
@Uruk666Hai the LE plugins are limited in their features and functionality... you can upgrade the ones you really need to the 'native' or 'full' versions ... for example i really love the ml4000 multi-band compressor but that's only available in the native version
Friknsteve 1 year ago
@Friknsteve
thank you
Uruk666Hai 1 year ago
i haven't ever seen the whole double limiter thing but it sounds nice. i'm fairly new to mixing, well... mixing the genre that i'm really into which is electronic and dance so it's really hard mixing in reason with a bunch of midi instruments. i usually end up using my waves limiter, bussing everything to an aux pre-fader but i STILL lose major volume. any suggestions?
texdaddy123 2 years ago
yes my question is the same as the last and same equipment,, please help..
MROMINOUS1 2 years ago
did u buy those plug ins?? i have protools that has a plugins installer but it says "paid plugins" but when i installed it needs to pay on line.. by the way im using protools 7.4 le m-powered.. can u help me how to get those plugins?
zednanrefoirel 2 years ago
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poisonousy 2 years ago
I have a studio where I record artist using logic pro 8. My mixes are strong and loud but to me Im just not getting that big time commercial sound. Im using the adaptive limiter. Do you have any suggestions? Is the plugin your demoing the reason why your overall mix sound very commercial? Thank you
Chemise1982 2 years ago
You know what is the commercial sound.. Air and light compression. (well in the hip hop rnb field) pop music nowadays is super over compressed and the famous loudness war.
Captnuendo 2 years ago
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I do rock stuff only right now, I compress tracks as needed for character and definition, i use a compressor on the 2-buss when i'm almost done mixing, or even after i'm done, and one of two mastering compressors depending on the band and the sound we're trying to finish off with...that's it.
poisonousy 2 years ago
try not to have so many stages of compression, great ideas though you sound like a very experienced guy
poisonousy 3 years ago
I hate over compression!!! what he is doing is different. cuz when he stages his limiters he says he pulls the faders down a few db.. so in actuality its ok. he sounds very pro i must say.
Captnuendo 2 years ago