PERSECUTION OF AHMADI MUSLIMS IN PAKISTAN (AHMADIYYA PERSECUTION)

[mrlogicalman1]

prophet said he is the LAST prophet . and that 72 groups out of 73 will have to go to hell atleast for a while. so ahmedy are stupid to say thers another prophet its that simple. they go against the quran and allah.........

[REALYFRIENDLY]

Is this right that ahmadis have secret ties with Israel and other enemies of islam and why ahmadi's tried to make balochistan province an ahmadi state?

[elpsaw]

The Wahabis believe in their own racial supremacy and will never tolerate any

difference of opinion on Islam or any group even because of its small number of adherents.The Wahabi lunatics who control Pakistan will cause much injustice and almost certainly when they are confident enough they will invade India.

[shawnee2014]

i, just i,l live in hell as muslim iraq , and afghanistan so i, c,ant no say otherwise crimes , bombings , damages collateral religion distorded by hypocrites

[marhaba327]

Ahmadduyat Zindabad

Ahmaddiyat Zindabad

[shawnee2014]

respect the Muslims even to the British, Islam has never been a religion of violence injury is used to dirty nicknames the Muslims, for soundness, and Islam as it writes into the world of all criminals and Muslim people considered criminals me I'm used to live in hell like, case ground zero 11/2001 which will get lost and how a conflict of, advance for the next two who uses violence will never win the coelre good god s shade destroy the mosque in pakistan

[deeds1957]

@shawnee2014 lies, read the book you hold so dear its evil and full of violence towards non muslims.People are waking up to the lies of islam.

[ThePersecution]

@deeds1957 I am sure you have not read Quran and its beautiful teachings with an open and unbiased approach. I advise you to read verses of Quran in their proper context. Islam stands for nothing but peace, harmony, and justice. There is no doubt that Quran allows self defense with certain conditions in place. Watch the true teachings of Islam on the topic of Jihad:

/watch?v=6sH2lk33UsM

[TXHalabi]

@ThePersecution  Islam stands for peace, harmony, justice? HAHAHAHAH.

You call misogyny, wife beating sanctioned in the quran 4:34, violence and hatred for non-believers "justice"?

You are so deluded and brainwashed.

[sabbfan24]

Wahhabi sunni muslims are the most ignorant, worthless, intolerant, son of a whore dog basterds on the face of this earth. I luv it, they cry about the discrimination of the indian caste system and then excercise this type of intolerance. What a bunch of fucking hypocrites !!

[atifmalik13]

Our Ahmadi neighbour in London is a widow from a previous malicious attack on her late husband for his faith. Today her brother-in-law and his two kids were caught by the bomb and he's had his feet amputated. Please let's not use those forum to propogate other faiths against another, it is just time to pray for peaceful innocent human beings who have fell foul of twisted evil individuals bent on destroying life and the peace in society.

[muslimahmadi]

Ahmadis were at the forefront of making of Pakistan. But the ahrari mullah and their ignorant disciples who had opposed birth of Pakistan tooth and nail resorted to persecution of ahmadis so as to gain some lost respect. History shows that whenever clergy fails on the argument levels, it resorts to violence and persecution. But truth prevails always and lie fails. One sign of liars is that they are the persecutors. But Allah punishes the enemies of reason who resort to persecution and violence.

[muslimahmadi]

The video shows some instances of persecution of ahmadis at the hands of ignorant majority and at the behest and connivance of the government in power of the time. History of religions shows that truthful were always persecuted. The persecutors were the non-believers who having failed in arguments resorted to violence and cruel tactics. The history of religions also is witness that truth always prevails ultimately and the persecutors are punished by God. Remember the horrific end of Ziaul Haq?

[FinzCrush]

ahmadiyyat is da true islam. everyone is just scared of the truth

[TFengineer]

@FinzCrush

Far from the truth. You have problems in the fundamentals of your faith. Your leader claimed he gave birth to a child, lol. He claimed to be Jesus, lol.

[ThePersecution]

@TFengineer Did he really say that he literally gave birth to a child? Lets hear his writing in full context. Would you care to present that writing of his here please. We will discuss this in detail. Also did he claim to be the same old Jesus of Nazareth? No he didn't. He actually proved from Quran, hadith, Bible, other scriptures, medical and historical evidence that Jesus of Nazareth died a natural death. He claimed to be the Messiah in Islam in the likeness of Jesus.

[FinzCrush]

@TFengineer dude, r u really muslim, cuz u seem pretty darn stupid.

[atech786]

They should know where their ghulam died and that's what they are fool of shit!!!!!

[ThePersecution]

atech, This is the best "argument" you people can come up to defend your position. What a shame. Do you know First Messiah (Jesus) was accused of dying an accursed death by the Jews. "Muslims" like yourself today following those Jews accuse Promised Messiah of dying an accursed death. Holy Prophet had prophecied this resemblance of "Muslims" of today with the Jews at the time Jesus like two shoes of the same pair. All praise belongs to Allah.

[atech786]

Sir you are right at one thing all praise belongs to Allah swt but as we all know that the messiah was Jesus pbuh. We both agree with that now when the messiah comes back again will he come back in a Indian mans form what is the explanation for that plus i agree the messiah will come he will be reconized when he does from a large group of people. You Ahmediyyas are so small in numbers that u don't maybe make 5 percent of total number of Muslims .

[ThePersecution]

atech, We very well understand that Jesus is dead. He was the Messiah for the Jews. He was a prophet for Israelites only (Rasoolan Bani Israel). So the one who is dead and who was meant for Israelites is not going to come back for the ummah of a universal prophet. The Promised Messiah has come in the character and similarity of the first Messiah. He has come in his likeness. Like Jesus was meant to revive the true spirit of Judaism, Promised Messiah has come to revive true spirit of Islam...

[ThePersecution]

...You expect the "Messiah" to convert majority into the truth while you forget that cmae more than 1400 years ago to the world as Rahmatullil Alameen (Mercy for the universe) and still majority of the world still rejects him. You associate "miracles" to the Promised Messiah that even Holy Prophet was unable to show. Then you say we are minority so we must be false. Where does the Quran say that majority must be right? Where did you get this belief from?...

[ThePersecution]

...on the contrary Allah Almighty says in the Holy Quran the following:

[6:116/117-117/118] "And if thou obey the MAJORITY of those on earth, they will LEAD THEE ASTRAY from Allahs way. They follow NOTHING but mere CONJECTURE, and they do nothing but LIE. Surely, thy LORD knows BEST those who go astray from His way; and He knows best those who are rightly guided."

So if we are in minority right now, to me its a blessing of God. You should however re-assess your position.

[atech786]

So how do we explain the Quran when Jesus says in the Quran that peace on me when I was born and the day I die and when shall be raised A life again. This explains that Jesus will come back in the same form.

[ThePersecution]

atech, If the above verse that you quoted talks about Jesus' physical ascension, then how would you explain this verse in which every man will be raised to life again after death:

And He it is Who gave you life, then He will cause you to die, then will He give you life again. Surely, man is most ungrateful. (Quran 22 : 66/67)

The raising of Jesus in the above verse that you quoted also is AFTER his DEATH. I hope you understand the point now.

[ThePersecution]

atech, then this verse of God talks about the disbelievers who reject the idea of raising up to life AFTER death in the following words:

[50:3/4] (The disbelievers say) What! when we are dead and have become dust, shall we be raised to life again? That is a return far from possible.

So do you also want to be among those who reject this truth of our raising to life after death?

[sadiq7700]

atech786: Brother please direct ur attention to this clear verse, and keep in mind that there can be no contradiction in the Quran: "O Jesus, I will cause you to die, and exalt you to My presence, and clear you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve till the day of Judgment." (3:54)

- ask ur leaders about this verse if u want truth

Also- watch NON-AHMADI MUSLIM scholar admitting:

Ghamdi explaining : watch?v=KX-jxZaI7qY&feature=re­lated

[TRUTHvsDECEPTION]

@sadiq7700 Behold ! Allah said;

"O Jesus ! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of the falsehoods of those who blaspheme. 3:55

[atech786]

Ok so where in the Quran do you find about ghulam Ahmed name or sign that can trigger any resemblance

[ThePersecution]

atech, So is the issue of Jesus' death from the Quran settled? Once the issue of Jesus' death is settled from Quran then we can move forward.

[atech786]

And where does it say that a messiah will come specially for the muslims

[ThePersecution]

atech, Again is the issue of Jesus' death settled from Quran? We can move to other issues once this issue is settled.

[atech786]

No really man u are confused Jesus As Is alive and he will come back and he will recite the kalima . Still I don't understand where the idea of a Indian Jesus came from the Quran or ghulam Ahmad himself explain more details please

[ThePersecution]

atech, As I said earlier, the case of Promised Messiah will be dealt with by later. First we need to settle the issue of Jesus' death. Once death of Jesus is established, then the "second" coming of Jesus (metaphorically) is understood easily as well. So where is your proof from Quran for holding this EXTRAORDINARY belief that Jesus is alive but all the rest of the prophets are dead. Secondly, what is the purpose of him being alive for this long? Who is he coming for etc.

[TRUTHvsDECEPTION]

@ThePersecution And where in Qur'an it says Jesus Died ?

[ThePersecution]

@TRUTHvsDECEPTION If somebody says that the sun rose from the west yesterday and set in the east, then the burdon of proof lies on the shoulder of the one who makes such rediculous claims. You believe in his literal ascent to heaven, I consider it to be completely unnatural. The burdon of proof lies on your shoulders and not mine. Where does it say in the Quran that Jesus was taken up bodily and that he is alive for more than 2000 years somewhere up in heaven waiting for his return?

[TRUTHvsDECEPTION]

@The Persecution No wonder Muslim around the World declare your sect as Kafer.

Instead of milling ring, be honest in discussion.

Burden is on Ahmadi shoulder to prove Jesus Death in body due to their claim not ours.

If Allah can give birth to Jesus by a Virgin Girl whay cant Allah keep Him alive any place and any where ?

[ThePersecution]

@TRUTHvsDECEPTION First of all virgin birth is not unnatural. Secondly, Allah can do anything, but where is the proof in the Quran that Jesus was taken up bodily against all the laws of gravity and he has been alive for the last 2000 years or so somewhere in the heaven waiting for his literal flight back? We believe in Jesus' death. What is so unnatural about that?

[H42R1597]

@atech786 and listen

you muslims ganged up on us

then we have like a 74 hour argument in rawal pindi

and if ahamadiis won they would let us stay and release the white paper (paper of the argument) if the others won they would persecute us

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED : ahmaddiyat won answering every question and fairly winning but the other muslims still banned us and one of the lawyers said

if anyone reads these papers THEY WILL TURN AHMADI THATS Y THEY DIDNT RELEASE THEM

[nazir431]

ahmadiyat is nothing but a fitnah created by the british in india to divide the unity of muslim in india.These ahmedis are kafirs they are not the part of islam.hence whole muslim ummah's lanat on them.

[ThePersecution]

nazir, What a joke.What foolish then of the British. The British used to send their Christian Missionaries in the subcontinent to convert thousands of Muslims into Christianity. It is so ironic then that the "fitnah" created by the "British" themselves was the only sole fighter with pen and argumentation against the British missionaries. /watch?v=CWAwvmC42rE

It is so foolish of the British to create something themselves that breaks the very foundations of their religion.Open your eyes for once

[786slam]

pakistan ke musulmanon ko thappar parrenge to teek honge!! America poonch to gaya hai, dekhte hain, kea karteo! vote to aap hi dete ho, pakistani awam!!! jo itni masuum hai, aap log jahel ho gayeo! jo par likh jata hai, wo mazhab kuch samjhta nahi, jo anparr hai, wo mullah ke beeche lag jata hai...kabhi kabhi khud bhi soojh liya karo! paison ke beeche na bhako!

[786slam]

agar ahmadi khalad bhi hoon, phele mujhe ye batao, aap logon koon haq deta hai, unko kafr bolne ko?? aur marne ko???? aap ka sense of human rights jan aap ke mullah??? jo is mulgh ko tuba kar rahe hain!??

[saeederlangen]

pakistan me gab tak is community se zulam band nahi hoga ye mullah bee control nahi honge

[atomac23]

Assalamu Alaikum. Ahmadiyya Zindaba. I am Bosnian and member of Ahmadiyya Jammat. I can tell you only one, if this i swrong , which is not , there is no right way in islam in these days now. THey we have a Khalipha, don't you understand. That is part of a prophecy for last days people.

[ThePersecution]

Walaikumus Salam, Very good to know you. May Allah always bless you and yours. Wassalam

[kkdahabibi]

what is going on in pakistan? Unjustice is being done to ahmadi's that behaviour towards ahmadi's is inhumun who persecutes someone because of their faith? That is wrong totally wrong. Long live ahmadiyyat!

[gul602]

they are not muslims kill them and erase kalima !!! what a great service !! well done !!!

[cankhadim]

Do you see what has happened to Islam, because many people just like you exist today. i urge you to read the Qur'an again and find Islam. Become Muslim.

[gul602]

here i meant ironically ! that is this ur Islam ! that u consider other non muslims and kill them ! nuthng else then that i m not the ideas of Mullahs and Talibans and Alhamdulillah i m a muslim

[ThePersecution]

shnizzle, Hundreds of years of hadith suddenly dismissed? Where did you get that information from? Are you talking about all the hadiths, or referring to something else. If you are talking about THOSE hadiths that contradict the verdict of Quran on certain issues, then I would like to listen to your openion on such Ahadith. Apart from that, if you know so much about Ahmadiyyat, then what is it that makes you pass a comment where you said it is a cult. I still have not got the answer to that.

[ThePersecution]

Shnizzle, That is a pretty ignorant comment to leave. How much do you know about the Ahmadiyya Community in Islam? What makes you leave such a comment, I am very curious.