Ok how are we supposed to know which example is from Maya or Blender since you failed to label them. That's a sutpid move on your part buddy, but I guess not everybody has common sense.
I'm not sure which was maya and which as blender, but each test had two VERY different models/scenes in it. You should have used the exact same model in Blender and Maya.
Blender is a toy, short of the fact that sure,its free , but,, some of the tools show its YOUTH, and the 'attitude' of blender devs is very ELITE,and it shows on how blender is made and how it WORKS. Try to 'bend' something in blender, then try maya ( watch tutorials here, and SEE what I mean ) , and its vastly easier in maya, whereas in blender its a massive headACHE. If I ever get enough money to buy Maya or max, blender will be wiped from my hardddrive, thats how little I think of it atm.
@TheRollingCubes The only thing obvious is your ability to not give accurate directions to begin with and procede to take attitude about your ineptness. That is SO like a blender user. Way to show why people don't use your pathetic little application, and instead spend thousands on something REAL and professional ( and not tude based)
@TheRollingCubes SHiftA >curve>path, isn't enough. I still have no idea how to bend this object. If I was using maya, it would already be DONE. BLender fails.
Blender is realtively easy to make plugins for (As opposed to 3ds), and so Mo-Cap isn't a real big problem. Learn python, C or C++, fix whatever you wanna fix, add whatever you wanna add. You can even make changes to rendering style and graphics display method, with a little knowledge of complex mathematical algorithms and calculus :) I use maya, so take my word for it... I do wish Blender didn't have the huge learning curve and no command line like MEL unless you have python IDE you're screwed.
Seiriously, the only thing that makes blender quite laguhable by professional criteria is simply the fact that it is bound under the GPL, making it free, making companies quick to critisize that it isn't 9,000$ and upwards, just because it is free. It makes companies skeptical of the quality. Blender hobbyist videos tend to be crappy because so many people use it because it's free, and don't do it right, check out Big Buck Bunny, Elephants Dream, and some of the artwork in the blender gallery :)
Maya and 3ds max users will be pleased to know some features that will help to improve their workflow.
Blender is close to be a pro
Maya should run smooth in a Mac, but it isn't so blender is a very good choice to Mac users too...
Dreamerboy don't be a kid, if you are so proud of your career don't waste your time talking about software, real art comes from your heart not from your software
Stop the childish bickering, maya and blender are extremely realistic. Their FX are different. That's just it. Blender 3d is as good as maya, but the interface of blender is one of the only issues. The interface because the blender developers try a little to hard with the shortcuts.
@9grisby hahahahahahahahaha.. very equal ?.. ow my god maya build most movies.. autodesk research is so big there are scientist & high programers behind maya and Blender is a small group of programers Blender can never build avatar or titanic or transformers.. also maya wins with the best dynamic animation ever and maya also have so many big program's like motion builder and mocap it's 100x bigger then Blender, see lord of the rings is al made with maya ;)..
listen everybody and then I don't comment anymore.. Maya is award winning.. and there is no tool at the market that's better then maya and houdini or max or xsi or cinema 4d.. Blender is just a basic tool.. but very powerfull if u can't program go for Blender just a few buttons and u got some nice animation if u going to do 3d for work then forget Blender and go for maya/houdini/xsi/c4d ( movie ) max/maya (gaming). Blender is great but Blender can't beat maya that's a no.. but it's a great tool
let me tell this.. I am an advaced maya also studioart builder and user.. and I am also a programer.. and what I like in this example is that people don't understand what 3d is.. maya is a program that is't just a program a normal person can't do nothing with it.. just using standard things also maya shater is very slow but what can I do with it ? I change the code and it's very very fast.. I can break poly's from 1.000.000.000 in seconds blender could never do that, that's the diffrents.
@Nicro327 hahaha that's why maya is almost used in every movie in hollywood and blender not hahah.. go play little kid.. Blender is great for non programers and the non 3d artist..Blender can never build up a high dynamic muscle system with inbuild algorithm maya can.. blender is great because people just can press buttons and u got something nice with maya u don't in maya u have to build al u'r self and watch avatar and almost every movie in hollywood ;).. it's build with maya not Blender idiot
@Nicro327 dude please watch spiderman transformers watch 2012 all done with maya fluids.. do I have to say more ? ;) watch my channel I build a few smoke fluids myself can u compare that with realistic ? I can build very realistic fluids and it's hard work but blender can never reach that level of maya because there are programers behind maya who gt paid Blender corp is free just programers who don't get paid..
@Nicro327 go away geek don't comment 1. u don't know anything about art 2 u aren't a 3d artist or programmer.. 3 u don't know what u'r talking about.. 4 u don't get paid to do 3d animation I do so please go play with u'r toys and don't comment..
@dreamerboy1231 First of all, I do program, I do 3D model. And I do do graphic art, and I create the graphic art with blender. I also animate with blender. Don't roll over and piss yourself and call me a geek. If you do all those things you mentioned you are the geek not me. I do know what I'm talking about. At least I don't have the vocabulary of a five year old and I do not use "lolspeak" on a regular basis.
@Nicro327 First I am not english.. second u also are very dumb because u did't watch my channel.. 3 c'mon cheer up I can't do nothing to the fact that u are so stupid and U wish to do also 3d animation but u'r to stupid for that 4 please don't comment just don't talk or don't type about 3d animation ok ?.. I don't know much of cars that's why I am not talking about it so don't u talk about 3d animation if u don't know nothing..
@dreamerboy1231 I've been doing 3d modeling an animation since age 10. Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Don't even say you're not English, English is not a race. It's a language, and you do not have to be American to know how to spell the word "you", stop using text-speak and loltalk. It's not funny and it doesn't get your point across, nor can I take you seriously.
@dreamerboy1231 And don't even talk to me, you fluid simulations look like complete shit. The "water" or what ever YOU want to call it looks like clear jell-o. Water does not have that kind of consistency mind you and your childish shit. I am not dumb, because once again... I can speak perfect English in an English argument and you can't. Thus making you look completely dumb on the other hand. Just stop where you are and don't reply because it's useless.
@Nicro327 hahahaha.. look at Nmtrix that's where I work.. I work for television what do you do ?.. u do shit.. and we are not talking about english we are talking about 3d, and that water effect was a test using only mel can u do that ?.. and it's not a fluid it's a particle effect based with modifiers. and riggedbody's. also did u watch my shatter effect ? programmed myself can u do that ? no so shutup noob..and also u'r english is also horrible and it's u'r own language's hahaha loser
@Nicro327... also why are u argue with me about Blender ? if u are really that good show us that ?.. build me a twister in Blender with a own fluid container.. and with dust particle's self colide with debris I have build that see my channel can u build that ? so show us that u can do that simple thing in blender and I will take everything back but if u can't then please shutup and then u are proving u are just a kid.. or else prove me wrong.. ok ?
@dreamerboy1231 You are the kid here. A fluid container is necessary for many fluid simulations. So why did you add the extra notation that I need a fluid container? Dust particles will always collide with each other, otherwise it would just be a liquid. Are you giving me instructions on how to create this project that you just asked me to do to prove I am fluent with blender? Right now you are not making any sense, crawl back into your little hole.
@Nicro327 listen with this u prove u'r self u aren't a artist just a basic tool user don't bla bla me just make that project by end of next week else don't bother me agian and don't talk so much just build something In blender and if u can't then stop talking because u'r just talking I build things u can see that on my channel and also at nmtrix the webpage.. I get paid for making animation but loved to see u make something so start building something.. does't matter how u do it..
@dreamerboy1231 First off, I am very artistic. People pay me to do artwork. And it's not a job, I do it for fun and people buy my work. Second of, I'm not going to create something because you will most likely steal it, I can tell because you are giving me a due date. Third, It's not called building, it's called modeling. Fourth, Everyone is a "tool user" or w/e you call it. Without the tools in blender3D you would not be able to model or create anything.
@Nicro327..ow my god.. please don't comment anymore u are nothing and u don't know nothing I ask u a simple thing to do and u just babling agian I ask u make something and put it on your channel so people can see that U can do something but u still using stupid comments.. and my shatter effect is perfect, I wrote myself a shatter effect that can break live 100.000.000 subdiv/nurbs/polys..can u write that ? no u can't but make something or please don't bother, everyone is laughing...
@dreamerboy1231 I don't upload videos to youtube, period. I come here to watch them. No one is laughing, just you. Why are you acting like God hurt you? "Ow my god", what does that even mean?
@Nicro327 ow my god.. this is the last comment I give u.. and I don't laugh I feeling bad for u.. that u are trying to talk about something that u don't know what the hell u'r saying 2.. ur making a fool of u'r self because u can't make just a simple thing in Blender u'r a joke u know that ?.. I ask u just a simple thing to upload like a twister effect bornout of a 3d container or emiter and u can do shit just talking I am saying this to u shutup and don't bother me anymore noobbb..
@dreamerboy1231 Stop lying to yourself. You are not a professional, I can tell because you just called me a "noob". Explain what a "twister bornout of a 3d container". You spelled everything around, and you do not need a 3d container to do this. You have no idea what you are talking about. Learn English before you attempt to use slang phrases directed at other people. If anything, you end up looking like a fool.
@Nicro327 ok u'r right I am not a pro that why I made many tools for maya.. that why I am working for dutch tv animation. and that's why I worked on the project of killzone 2 ;).. u'r really funny check the list my name is there ;).. so I have a name what do u have ? umm.. nothing.. I ask u one question very simple make a tornado effect in a 3d program. and where is u'r effect ? stop lying to yourself what is your problem ? u need professional help talk to dr phill but don't bother me.
@dreamerboy1231 If you were as time consumed as you say you were, why aren't you at your job instead of here? Oh wait, that's because you don't have one. In order to be good at something, you don't need an association with youtube. I choose not to upload my stuff because it's a waste of time.
@Nicro327 please do u don't have other things to do kid ?.. go play with u'r friends or go do something with u'r life but don't bother me. else I gonna call u'r parrents that computer's is'nt good for you.. so whatever u want but I don't have time for babysitting so just go play with u'r toys and u'r 3d Blender or the things u do or whatever u made up in that wierd brain of your's but don't bother anymore ok ? else I going to block you. u'r a nice kid but also very annoying.. greets
@dreamerboy1231 I'm not a kid by the way. You can block me, I will gladly not reply if you don't reply back to this message. Now go drink some beer, or go fuck yourself with with a dildo or what ever you made up in that weird mind of yours.
@dreamerboy1231 I hope you stop replying in effort to realize how dumb of an /opinion/ you have made. Just because you can do a fluid simulation and use some fancy plugins, it does not mean you are professional. How can you even read the program you are using, I am still wondering how you are reading this text when you can not even spell "you" correctly. It's just sad.
@dreamerboy1231 I watched your presentation, and the shatter effect you are gloating about is horribly done. How about you take physics into mind? That effects has no correlation to physics at all, and you do not even pay attention to weight.
ANY APPLICATION IF YOU USE YOUR IMAGINATION YOU CAN MAKE GREAT THINGS. THAT COMMENT ABOUT "BLENDER IS FOR HOBBIES"... PIXAR USES IT AND THEY'RE NOT HOBBIES.....
@antifrituras pixar use maya also renderman made only for maya google it ;).. why are u Blender fans always steel credits ?.. listen go to the Blender page also they said Blender is used by the movie spiderman 2 also I have bin there on the set I have 2 friends working there on ILM and 1 at digital domain.. Blender is never bin used in anymovie.. go to the blender page and see what movie is made with blender u can see it on there webpage.. also I have worked with blender blender is to slow..
Also the diffrents between maya is maya is not for just basic animation is just for complex building.. some people don't understand but maya is very powerfull because u can build a wholl new world inside of maya.. Blender can't , I can make fluids that are very realistic see my video's I use smoke all made with maya, like I said Blender is great for home using. but for real project's u have to let Blender go
@dreamerboy1231 If you were truly good at what you say you are, you wouldn't blame the quality of your work on your tools. I man who builds a sloppy house should not blame his tools. You can't back out of this one and say,"WELL DAT IZ NAWT ENITRLY TRU U SEE?" My English is not horrible, I put everything where it needs to go... Unlike you who just uses acronyms and silly abbreviations for simple words that only take a second to type.
@antifrituras he friend I have bin there on the set Spiderman 1 and 2 and 3 are all build with alias systems;).. maya look it up.. also go to blender page there u can see what is all made with blender.. but u will not find spiderman there ;) sorry.. u can find it on youtube making of spiderman 2 alias system maya ;).. then u will see the making of so don't steel credits Blender is never bin used in hollywood or high projects because Blender is to slow.. time is money ;)
@antifrituras ok if u want to believe that be my quest ;).. but those are the real things that are build with blender.., But don't want to sound like an idiot but u need help really because u can't read.. also u said final fantasy is made with Blender :S.. and also the incredibles ? what the hell are u talking about google first Blender is never ever ever ever bin used in large projects, it's houdini or maya or max or xsi or c4d no Blender go learn how to read.. check Blender page wierdo
@dreamerboy1231 It disgruntles me that you have resorted to contracting random statements straight from your ass in an attempt to sound professional when you truly are not. It boggles my mind as to how you even got accepted with your potentially poor application that is swathed with many acronyms and abbreviations. I thought you were a seven year old at first. If you're going to insult, at least try to speak correct English by looking up the words you are using.
I really hate blender fans.. because they can't except what the point is.. also they can't read because if u search on google u can read the answer why blender is not the program.. and poore people who can't afford a higher program are going to arguing that blender is the number one tool Ow my god please let it go blender fans get a life blender is great but it's to slow for big company products end of story. and also the example above is pathetic! maya is 1000x strong faster then blender noobs!
your points are true but remember blender is still a young program and its developers are not full time(or so i think). yes maya is the real deal, i have tried it, but some ppl just arent ready for maya, dont like it or just want to do 3D as a hobby. however, for an open source, blender can handle itself pretty well and is not too basic. its more intermediate and a good starter program for future 3d artists. blender may not grow to be like maya, but it will grow to be a good app
Ow my god.. hahah al those people are arguing about blender.. it's so funny I pay my bills with 3d graphics and blender is a great tool but it is to slow.. ILM, Wetta, Digital domain, and big other companys will never use this product because it is the slow and sure u can uild great things with it but with a big tool like max or maya or houdini or XSI u have u'r work done in a month blender will take a year so time is money so please stop argue about blender,blender is a nice tool to use at home
I started with Maya first but later I switched to Blender because it is much faster with respect to Dynamic Simulations and it's much easier plus it is FREE!! So why waste your time and money.
@catchlinil123 Sorry ?.. Blender is much faster then maya ?.. then u have a problem with u'r skils or u aren't ready for a big graphics tool, But never say that blender is faster then houdini or maya or max or other high program's because blender is the slowest on the list for real high projects. sure blender is fun for home but on this moment blender will not make it to hollywoord or even video games.
@dreamerboy1231 There's many projects that have been made in Blender. Examples: Final Fantasy XVII - the movie. The Incredibles, The Incredibles II..... Spiderman III......
@antifrituras ? u wish I know with tools are used and blender is never used for big projects, and spiderman 3 is build with maya for animation final fantasy is also made with maya and dynamics with houdini. and the incredibles ? hahah.. is also made with maya pixar does't use blender.. just learn to accept that blender will never be used in hollywood it is to slow for real production. u can build great stuff with blender but it can never compare to big tools like max or maya or xsi or houdini.
@antifrituras ? u wish I know with tools are used and blender is never used for big projects, and spiderman 3 is build with maya for animation final fantasy is also made with maya and dynamics with houdini. and the incredibles ? hahah.. is also made with maya pixar does't use blender.. just learn to accept that blender will never be used in hollywood it is to slow for real production. u can build great stuff with blender but it can never compare to big tools like max or maya or xsi or houdini.
@antifrituras it's not a lie, U just don't know what Blender is, Blender is more like windows and maya or max is more like unix or linux system. windows is basic and maya or max or xsi or houdini are advanced. if u want to get a real great effect with maya u have to do much more then pressing some buttons u have to program more and make u'r own scripts and also Blender is to slow what can do in blender in a year, maya or max or houdini are doing this in a month, ( time is money)
@antifrituras ow I have a friend at digital domain and he send me this.. The movies that used Blender was
sintel project london, Kajimba lighthouse ,murnau the vampire, elephants dreambounce to space, Big Buck Bunny, MeischeidMan in Man Softboy, Esign, Plumiferos, Chicken chair , Mindfields. So pixar has never used blender or wetta or Ilm or other big company's. and also the incredible's used maya and max and renderman. I have the making of there was no Blender !.
fuck blender and dont say its free bla bla bull. its using hotkeys like a fuckin c64.
how many movies have been made in blender? and how many have been made in maya? blender have been around since 1998 and only sintel and bucks bunny are known from blender. only stupid tutorials like press ctrl alt D+G+H+J to make a square, and now kids we will make a glass,fuck that shit.
I'm a student who is working toward a career in the game industry and to tell you the truth is really doesn't mater in terms of Maya vs blender; because any one who is really serious about making games/media is going to use Maya for it's strengths and blender for it's strengths as well. In reality developers use many programs in development. Oh and you can master both it's called 4 years industry experience
I'm a student who is working toward a career in the game industry and to tell you the truth is really doesn't mater in terms of Maya vs blender; because any one who is really serious about making games/media is going to use Maya for it's strengths and blender for it's strengths as well. In reality developers use many programs in development. Oh and you can master both it's called 4 years industry experiance
everybody that fucks with what 3d animation program is better is just a douche. as you can see in the video if a person is good in blender it can look better then 3ds max or maya. it doesnt fuckin matter if you stick with a software and practice you will be pro and make other 3dsmax blender or maya look bad.. SO DOUCHES STICK WITH 1 PROGRAM!!!!!! P.S. i use blender
Okay one last comment just to clarify what I said about water simulation. For the most realistic water, studios turn to RealFlow, a standalone program and plugin (for Maya, 3DSMax, etc) that won the 2008 Oscar for technical achievement. It offers INSANELY realistic water. Check out videos for it here on YouTube. I am not affiliated with RF in any way.
@pulseforce News: Maya will be getting *MASSIVELY* improved water including particles mixing together to create new colors. Incredible stuff. Rivaling the quality of RealFlow. Search YouTube for "Maya Fluids Technology Preview".
The only thing I agree with is that Maya's water simulations look awful. That has always been a problem with Maya, which is why there are plenty of commercial plugins to create the most realistic water imaginable. There are many 3rd party water solutions, and you can be sure that big movie productions use THOSE and not the built-in water shown here, because Maya's built-in water is bad indeed. :-) That is just one small weakness in an otherwise insanely powerful program.
@pulseforce umm.. maya can create very realistic water but the problem is do u know mel ? I can create water just like real flow in maya but u need to program it that's the hard part in maya.
You also need to search for "maya fluids fire" here on youtube to see plenty of INCREDIBLY REALISTIC fires created in Maya. Even though it is fantastic to have a free alternative in Blender, Maya is the industry standard because it's incredibly powerful.
As some have already pointed out, this test is biased and incorrect, simply because the author is not proficient in Maya and incorrectly set up the effects. Of course Maya looks bad if you do it wrong! search for the video "maya fluid rocket launch" and look around at other Maya fluid videos and tell me you see a difference between maya smoke and REAL LIFE SMOKE. ;)
@pulseforce Ya, but in blender, you get the same shit for free! Why would I pay 1400 dollars for something, when I can get something just as good for free.
@BigdogWitBigdog i knew you would say that shit, that its free and all that bull crap.
It is free becuase its shit. put a price on blender as the other programs and no one would buy that shit. No proffesional games are made in your shitty blender program
@derek4272 Dude, lol. I's free because the developers know people won't worship and suck their dicks. Blender is just as good as maya, maya is more popular because it costs money, it is generally thought that because something costs money, that it;s better. In this case, not true. Blender is the same shit. Maya doesn't have anything over blender and vice versa. Eiher way, you can not go wrong with either. And who cares if no "commercial" products use blender?!?!
@BigdogWitBigdog maya has alot of things blender doesnt have, support,
tons of proffesional tutorials, a very good GUI, and Mental ray , and most important of all jobs waiting for those who knows maya. cant say the same thing for Blender
@derek4272 That's a vice versa thing. There is things Maya has that blender doesn't and vice versa. The only reason Maya has people that wanna know if you can use it, is because it is more of an industry standard. And good artists generally know multiple programs anyways. The GUI isn't bad in blender. Maya is a bit more streamlined from what I noticed in the trial. But Blender's is not hard to learn, and when you do learn it you won't have problems.
"Blender's is not hard to learn, and when you do learn it you won't have problems."?? hellooooo ?!?! once you learn how to speak in bangladeshian with out a good book or a teacher you wont have a problem speaking it.. typical blender logic. Why do you think Maya is industry standard? when companies can save loads of cash using blender??? it is becuase it is fucked up.
@derek4272 What I am saying is blenders UI is a bit tricky to learn. BUT, once you do learn it, you will have no problems what so ever. Now, to end this discussion, both are great. Which ever you choose, you get a great software. And, it's a plus to learn how to use multiple softwares(blender, and Maya).
@derek4272 I know Blender and I have a job in the 3D industry. Do you even take into consideration of indie studios. Many indie studios use Blender over Maya. And again, I can't stress this enough. WHO THE HELL CARES OF MORE BIG TIME COMPANY'S USE IT?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?! I know Blender, and a small amount of Maya. If I wanted to, I could learn Maya. I don't however because MY company requires Blender. Dude, how can you look at yourself in the mirror when you are a fanboy about softwares?
@derek4272 There are no commercial products made with blender because blender users are mostly hobbyists who don't have time for making such things, though blender surely has the abilities to be a good tool for making commercial products. And if you don't like some things blender, just take it's source code and modify it, it's that easy. Now tell me can you modify Maya like that. What I'm saying is that if there's something you want to change, you can with blender, not with Maya.
Now you are going to whine about "not everyone can modify source codes." I know indeed, but coding is one big business and you can get even better jobs with coding than you can get with Maya skillz. Coding was used to make Maya. Coding was used to make the damn Windows piece of shit you're using. Also, almost all software companies have some kind of Linux projects these days. Now say, can you run Maya in Linux?
@derek4272 Why to rewrite when you can just modify a tiny bit of it? I haven't touched the blender source really, but I have done many plugins that help me with many problems like modeling and ray-tracing etc.
@DatafoxStudios Why is there even such a function in blender!? becuase they know they done a shitty job with the GUI and they have no taste for such things, the creators are not proffesionals when ot comes to designing a GUI in a 3D program.I dont care if Maya runs in Linux or not. but there is a version that works in Linux FYI. Its all about time not fucking motivation. i dont wanna spend 1 month just to solve a problem and looking at amateur blender tutorials of ginger men on you tube.
@derek4272 I'm not gonna fight with shitheads like you who don't understand that everyone can use what they like. I'm gonna continue using Blender and you're gonna continue using Maya and we live happily ever after. The end.
@DatafoxStudios Fight? are you fighting? hahaha. what are you crying about ?,you started talking to me, telling me shit like you have to learn programing.
@BigdogWitBigdog Blender isn't "just as good" as Maya. Not even debatable. It has a lot of power, sure, but it cannot compete with Alias/Autodesk's decades of experience, hordes of artists that know how to use it, and millions upon millions of dollars in research and development. I would laugh at you if you wanted to run a professional graphics house with Blender artists. It's doable, sure, but any company worth its salt would get venture capital and invest in proper machines and software.
By the way, students can pay $100 and get a complete collection of all Autodesk software; including Maya, 3D Studio Max and Mudbox with a license that never expires, all components (cloth, fluid, etc), the rights to use it for commercial work during studies as well as after graduating(!), NO WATERMARKING, the ability to upgrade to a regular license at heavily reduced price, and the knowledge that they will get work after graduating since they know the industry standard. Blender is for hobbyists.
That's bull. The person who made the smoke didn't know how to use maya Fluids I guess. May fluids are very good for smoke. Much better than the example 2. Also the water was much more "bigger" in the example 2, which makes it look better. Although, maya water even with nparticles sucks.
From what I've learned so far Maya and Blender are both decent. Only issue I have with Maya is that I can't sell my work with a student license... at least not legally of course.
blender wins most over the tools and faster time taken of an activitiy ... and maya wins advanced tool that makes hard and the uses of companies!!
but as u can seen, blender should be also together commercial with maya and 3ds max!! coz it have some powerful tools as the rest!! unfortunately, its release open source!!
You need to add more information. What is Maya and what is Blender here?
The 2 fires look real to me, but coming from a diferent source, the first look like some type of flammable liquid and the second look like fire coming from a medieval torch.
The same thing occurs with the smoke, the second smoke is being thrown violently into the air, but the first not.
You clearly were not able to simulate the SAME effect in both programs.
Lmao what a video... You should put a new comparison in the video... A wallet with 5000 dollars in it, and one thats empty. Because this clearly explains why there is a blender in the first place. Also you could of put more effort into the blender examples. I've seen MUCH better fire,smoke, maybe not so much water... From blender... So i feel it's a bit of a biased video. But please, this is my opinion, no offense intended.
I think Blender is good because it is available for almost anyone. I think Blender has makes good still images but the animations can't beat Maya. (Dreamworks use Maya)
@lukedacreator I second that! Also the new version of blender(currently in alpha stage) will rock our worlds. Please smack your hand if you reach out for overpriced software :P
*note* I acknowledge that Maya is the rolls Royce of 3d animation, but... Blender is advancing well and will eventually surpass Maya... For the reason that professional 3d animators in the blender community will help it shine.
@danielkirk1 i heard the same thing 5 years ago, still waiting. People forget Maya has capital behind its development... Unless it has a community like the linux crowd you will be hard pressed to ever see blender outdo maya, what we will see is very similar programs, one being much less.
@ColdfireTrilogy I'm telling you right now. If blender became the professional standard, all other developers would shit thier pants. For the simple fact that blender is Free. Autodesk is gonna run out of features and be a mediocre program, while blender gathers interest from beginners/kids/ex programmers/artists.
Please Quote me if i'm right in the future, because i know a fare share about software. Ty for your reply and you make a fair point that also could be possible.
this is great and all, but Pixar uses Maya. And these effects here are not fully utilizing Maya at all, looks like some intermediate stuff if you ask me.
I like Blender and Maya both, I prefer blender cause it's cheaper, but i don't agree with skewing one way or the other and misinforming the public.
I disagree with this post for two main reasons: One, I think that some of the physics were skewed to the creator's personal opinions. And two: Maya and Blender are very much the same, they pretty much are the same, I viewed the source code for both. Open or not. It's not the programs that are better, it's the person who is using the program.
Someone could use Anim8or and totally pwn someone using Maya or Blender.
you might think blender is crap because its free but its actually way more user and friendly WAY less cluttered, but of course if youre making an actual film then maya
P.S. blender has a game engine so clear winner in my eyes
Well, to tell which is which, the better examples are Blender. Of course, all these examples could have been much better...
masterapmark 2 months ago
Ok how are we supposed to know which example is from Maya or Blender since you failed to label them. That's a sutpid move on your part buddy, but I guess not everybody has common sense.
TheWaynelds 2 months ago
Example 2 looks best, I think. Apart from the water one I think example 1 looked best. But I have no idea which is which?!?!?!?!?!
thinsulite 5 months ago
@thinsulite yeah, too bad the uploader is an idiot who doesnt know how to label the examples.
TheWaynelds 2 months ago
@TheWaynelds I was kind of wondering that myself. Which one was Blender and which one was Maya?
MrsJessiRoberts 1 week ago 2
which is which??? lol.
nairad100 5 months ago
which one is witch.
nairad100 6 months ago
I'm not sure which was maya and which as blender, but each test had two VERY different models/scenes in it. You should have used the exact same model in Blender and Maya.
googiek 6 months ago
Blender is a toy, short of the fact that sure,its free , but,, some of the tools show its YOUTH, and the 'attitude' of blender devs is very ELITE,and it shows on how blender is made and how it WORKS. Try to 'bend' something in blender, then try maya ( watch tutorials here, and SEE what I mean ) , and its vastly easier in maya, whereas in blender its a massive headACHE. If I ever get enough money to buy Maya or max, blender will be wiped from my hardddrive, thats how little I think of it atm.
leebojammin 6 months ago
@leebojammin "Bending" Something:
Add the object you would like to bend...
Add a NURBS path to declare the direction of the bend...
Add a Curve modifier...
Now get bent.
TheRollingCubes 5 months ago
@TheRollingCubes , There is no 'nurbs path', and im using very latest blender.
Im not very bent.
leebojammin 5 months ago
@leebojammin Obviously you didn't try Shift-A -> Curve -> Path
TheRollingCubes 5 months ago
@TheRollingCubes The only thing obvious is your ability to not give accurate directions to begin with and procede to take attitude about your ineptness. That is SO like a blender user. Way to show why people don't use your pathetic little application, and instead spend thousands on something REAL and professional ( and not tude based)
leebojammin 5 months ago
@leebojammin I'm sorry, would you care to explaining adding curves in Maya?
TheRollingCubes 5 months ago
@TheRollingCubes SHiftA >curve>path, isn't enough. I still have no idea how to bend this object. If I was using maya, it would already be DONE. BLender fails.
leebojammin 5 months ago
Blender wins.
Guding12 6 months ago
@Guding12 no, maya wins, maya is better than blender
MapleOdyssey626 5 months ago
@MapleOdyssey626 STFU
Guding12 5 months ago
@MapleOdyssey626 Totally agree..there is NO comparision whatsoever. Maya is used in countless studios for gaming and movies. Blender FAIL
leebojammin 5 months ago
I'm a modeler, so anything I model or sculpt in Blender can transfer over to Maya, Z Brush, 3DsMax, etc and that's all that matters.
RontheHybridV2 8 months ago
Blender is realtively easy to make plugins for (As opposed to 3ds), and so Mo-Cap isn't a real big problem. Learn python, C or C++, fix whatever you wanna fix, add whatever you wanna add. You can even make changes to rendering style and graphics display method, with a little knowledge of complex mathematical algorithms and calculus :) I use maya, so take my word for it... I do wish Blender didn't have the huge learning curve and no command line like MEL unless you have python IDE you're screwed.
9grisby 9 months ago
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After you do that, then make your comparison
9grisby 9 months ago
Seiriously, the only thing that makes blender quite laguhable by professional criteria is simply the fact that it is bound under the GPL, making it free, making companies quick to critisize that it isn't 9,000$ and upwards, just because it is free. It makes companies skeptical of the quality. Blender hobbyist videos tend to be crappy because so many people use it because it's free, and don't do it right, check out Big Buck Bunny, Elephants Dream, and some of the artwork in the blender gallery :)
9grisby 9 months ago 10
@9grisby If you YouTube Sintel the creators did a fantastic job for animation made on Blender its still fantastic.
snuckles108 3 months ago
Try the new stable version of blender 2.57b
Maya and 3ds max users will be pleased to know some features that will help to improve their workflow.
Blender is close to be a pro
Maya should run smooth in a Mac, but it isn't so blender is a very good choice to Mac users too...
Dreamerboy don't be a kid, if you are so proud of your career don't waste your time talking about software, real art comes from your heart not from your software
ratioactive 10 months ago 6
Stop the childish bickering, maya and blender are extremely realistic. Their FX are different. That's just it. Blender 3d is as good as maya, but the interface of blender is one of the only issues. The interface because the blender developers try a little to hard with the shortcuts.
9grisby 10 months ago
Blender and maya are very equal in comparison. This childish bickering has to stop.
9grisby 10 months ago
@9grisby hahahahahahahahaha.. very equal ?.. ow my god maya build most movies.. autodesk research is so big there are scientist & high programers behind maya and Blender is a small group of programers Blender can never build avatar or titanic or transformers.. also maya wins with the best dynamic animation ever and maya also have so many big program's like motion builder and mocap it's 100x bigger then Blender, see lord of the rings is al made with maya ;)..
dreamerboy1231 9 months ago
listen everybody and then I don't comment anymore.. Maya is award winning.. and there is no tool at the market that's better then maya and houdini or max or xsi or cinema 4d.. Blender is just a basic tool.. but very powerfull if u can't program go for Blender just a few buttons and u got some nice animation if u going to do 3d for work then forget Blender and go for maya/houdini/xsi/c4d ( movie ) max/maya (gaming). Blender is great but Blender can't beat maya that's a no.. but it's a great tool
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
let me tell this.. I am an advaced maya also studioart builder and user.. and I am also a programer.. and what I like in this example is that people don't understand what 3d is.. maya is a program that is't just a program a normal person can't do nothing with it.. just using standard things also maya shater is very slow but what can I do with it ? I change the code and it's very very fast.. I can break poly's from 1.000.000.000 in seconds blender could never do that, that's the diffrents.
dreamerboy1231 11 months ago
This should clear things up
watch?v=SeF2e-IrKSA&feature=related
Blender is better :D
Nicro327 11 months ago
@Nicro327 hahaha that's why maya is almost used in every movie in hollywood and blender not hahah.. go play little kid.. Blender is great for non programers and the non 3d artist..Blender can never build up a high dynamic muscle system with inbuild algorithm maya can.. blender is great because people just can press buttons and u got something nice with maya u don't in maya u have to build al u'r self and watch avatar and almost every movie in hollywood ;).. it's build with maya not Blender idiot
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@Nicro327 dude please watch spiderman transformers watch 2012 all done with maya fluids.. do I have to say more ? ;) watch my channel I build a few smoke fluids myself can u compare that with realistic ? I can build very realistic fluids and it's hard work but blender can never reach that level of maya because there are programers behind maya who gt paid Blender corp is free just programers who don't get paid..
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 The point of it is to look real, not pretty. To slightly different things my friend.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@Nicro327 go away geek don't comment 1. u don't know anything about art 2 u aren't a 3d artist or programmer.. 3 u don't know what u'r talking about.. 4 u don't get paid to do 3d animation I do so please go play with u'r toys and don't comment..
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 First of all, I do program, I do 3D model. And I do do graphic art, and I create the graphic art with blender. I also animate with blender. Don't roll over and piss yourself and call me a geek. If you do all those things you mentioned you are the geek not me. I do know what I'm talking about. At least I don't have the vocabulary of a five year old and I do not use "lolspeak" on a regular basis.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 You do not get paid, and they would not hire you. Because your application would look like this:
I do porgaming and i alzo do three dee modelin so plz hire me becuz i am good worker and i will be of gewd use 2 u. ty for your cooperation.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@Nicro327 First I am not english.. second u also are very dumb because u did't watch my channel.. 3 c'mon cheer up I can't do nothing to the fact that u are so stupid and U wish to do also 3d animation but u'r to stupid for that 4 please don't comment just don't talk or don't type about 3d animation ok ?.. I don't know much of cars that's why I am not talking about it so don't u talk about 3d animation if u don't know nothing..
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 I've been doing 3d modeling an animation since age 10. Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Don't even say you're not English, English is not a race. It's a language, and you do not have to be American to know how to spell the word "you", stop using text-speak and loltalk. It's not funny and it doesn't get your point across, nor can I take you seriously.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 And don't even talk to me, you fluid simulations look like complete shit. The "water" or what ever YOU want to call it looks like clear jell-o. Water does not have that kind of consistency mind you and your childish shit. I am not dumb, because once again... I can speak perfect English in an English argument and you can't. Thus making you look completely dumb on the other hand. Just stop where you are and don't reply because it's useless.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@Nicro327 hahahaha.. look at Nmtrix that's where I work.. I work for television what do you do ?.. u do shit.. and we are not talking about english we are talking about 3d, and that water effect was a test using only mel can u do that ?.. and it's not a fluid it's a particle effect based with modifiers. and riggedbody's. also did u watch my shatter effect ? programmed myself can u do that ? no so shutup noob..and also u'r english is also horrible and it's u'r own language's hahaha loser
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@Nicro327... also why are u argue with me about Blender ? if u are really that good show us that ?.. build me a twister in Blender with a own fluid container.. and with dust particle's self colide with debris I have build that see my channel can u build that ? so show us that u can do that simple thing in blender and I will take everything back but if u can't then please shutup and then u are proving u are just a kid.. or else prove me wrong.. ok ?
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 You are the kid here. A fluid container is necessary for many fluid simulations. So why did you add the extra notation that I need a fluid container? Dust particles will always collide with each other, otherwise it would just be a liquid. Are you giving me instructions on how to create this project that you just asked me to do to prove I am fluent with blender? Right now you are not making any sense, crawl back into your little hole.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@Nicro327 listen with this u prove u'r self u aren't a artist just a basic tool user don't bla bla me just make that project by end of next week else don't bother me agian and don't talk so much just build something In blender and if u can't then stop talking because u'r just talking I build things u can see that on my channel and also at nmtrix the webpage.. I get paid for making animation but loved to see u make something so start building something.. does't matter how u do it..
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 First off, I am very artistic. People pay me to do artwork. And it's not a job, I do it for fun and people buy my work. Second of, I'm not going to create something because you will most likely steal it, I can tell because you are giving me a due date. Third, It's not called building, it's called modeling. Fourth, Everyone is a "tool user" or w/e you call it. Without the tools in blender3D you would not be able to model or create anything.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@Nicro327..ow my god.. please don't comment anymore u are nothing and u don't know nothing I ask u a simple thing to do and u just babling agian I ask u make something and put it on your channel so people can see that U can do something but u still using stupid comments.. and my shatter effect is perfect, I wrote myself a shatter effect that can break live 100.000.000 subdiv/nurbs/polys..can u write that ? no u can't but make something or please don't bother, everyone is laughing...
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 I don't upload videos to youtube, period. I come here to watch them. No one is laughing, just you. Why are you acting like God hurt you? "Ow my god", what does that even mean?
Nicro327 10 months ago
@Nicro327 ow my god.. this is the last comment I give u.. and I don't laugh I feeling bad for u.. that u are trying to talk about something that u don't know what the hell u'r saying 2.. ur making a fool of u'r self because u can't make just a simple thing in Blender u'r a joke u know that ?.. I ask u just a simple thing to upload like a twister effect bornout of a 3d container or emiter and u can do shit just talking I am saying this to u shutup and don't bother me anymore noobbb..
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 Stop lying to yourself. You are not a professional, I can tell because you just called me a "noob". Explain what a "twister bornout of a 3d container". You spelled everything around, and you do not need a 3d container to do this. You have no idea what you are talking about. Learn English before you attempt to use slang phrases directed at other people. If anything, you end up looking like a fool.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@Nicro327 ok u'r right I am not a pro that why I made many tools for maya.. that why I am working for dutch tv animation. and that's why I worked on the project of killzone 2 ;).. u'r really funny check the list my name is there ;).. so I have a name what do u have ? umm.. nothing.. I ask u one question very simple make a tornado effect in a 3d program. and where is u'r effect ? stop lying to yourself what is your problem ? u need professional help talk to dr phill but don't bother me.
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 If you were as time consumed as you say you were, why aren't you at your job instead of here? Oh wait, that's because you don't have one. In order to be good at something, you don't need an association with youtube. I choose not to upload my stuff because it's a waste of time.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@Nicro327 please do u don't have other things to do kid ?.. go play with u'r friends or go do something with u'r life but don't bother me. else I gonna call u'r parrents that computer's is'nt good for you.. so whatever u want but I don't have time for babysitting so just go play with u'r toys and u'r 3d Blender or the things u do or whatever u made up in that wierd brain of your's but don't bother anymore ok ? else I going to block you. u'r a nice kid but also very annoying.. greets
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 I'm not a kid by the way. You can block me, I will gladly not reply if you don't reply back to this message. Now go drink some beer, or go fuck yourself with with a dildo or what ever you made up in that weird mind of yours.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 I hope you stop replying in effort to realize how dumb of an /opinion/ you have made. Just because you can do a fluid simulation and use some fancy plugins, it does not mean you are professional. How can you even read the program you are using, I am still wondering how you are reading this text when you can not even spell "you" correctly. It's just sad.
Nicro327 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 I watched your presentation, and the shatter effect you are gloating about is horribly done. How about you take physics into mind? That effects has no correlation to physics at all, and you do not even pay attention to weight.
Nicro327 10 months ago
ANY APPLICATION IF YOU USE YOUR IMAGINATION YOU CAN MAKE GREAT THINGS. THAT COMMENT ABOUT "BLENDER IS FOR HOBBIES"... PIXAR USES IT AND THEY'RE NOT HOBBIES.....
antifrituras 11 months ago
@antifrituras pixar use maya also renderman made only for maya google it ;).. why are u Blender fans always steel credits ?.. listen go to the Blender page also they said Blender is used by the movie spiderman 2 also I have bin there on the set I have 2 friends working there on ILM and 1 at digital domain.. Blender is never bin used in anymovie.. go to the blender page and see what movie is made with blender u can see it on there webpage.. also I have worked with blender blender is to slow..
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
So how many people can remember the Pixar Animations.... Watch it:
Fake_ Pixar v0.3 blender
antifrituras 11 months ago
Also the diffrents between maya is maya is not for just basic animation is just for complex building.. some people don't understand but maya is very powerfull because u can build a wholl new world inside of maya.. Blender can't , I can make fluids that are very realistic see my video's I use smoke all made with maya, like I said Blender is great for home using. but for real project's u have to let Blender go
dreamerboy1231 11 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 If you were truly good at what you say you are, you wouldn't blame the quality of your work on your tools. I man who builds a sloppy house should not blame his tools. You can't back out of this one and say,"WELL DAT IZ NAWT ENITRLY TRU U SEE?" My English is not horrible, I put everything where it needs to go... Unlike you who just uses acronyms and silly abbreviations for simple words that only take a second to type.
Nicro327 10 months ago
This link says how many moves have been builted with blender - At these movies is Spiderman 2. Don't be liar Nightmare boy.
And if you like the owner softwares, enjoy your spends.
antifrituras 1 year ago
@antifrituras he friend I have bin there on the set Spiderman 1 and 2 and 3 are all build with alias systems;).. maya look it up.. also go to blender page there u can see what is all made with blender.. but u will not find spiderman there ;) sorry.. u can find it on youtube making of spiderman 2 alias system maya ;).. then u will see the making of so don't steel credits Blender is never bin used in hollywood or high projects because Blender is to slow.. time is money ;)
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 Nope... On the Blender Webpage just only promote the Blender Product. Just it.
antifrituras 10 months ago
@antifrituras ok if u want to believe that be my quest ;).. but those are the real things that are build with blender.., But don't want to sound like an idiot but u need help really because u can't read.. also u said final fantasy is made with Blender :S.. and also the incredibles ? what the hell are u talking about google first Blender is never ever ever ever bin used in large projects, it's houdini or maya or max or xsi or c4d no Blender go learn how to read.. check Blender page wierdo
dreamerboy1231 10 months ago
@dreamerboy1231 It disgruntles me that you have resorted to contracting random statements straight from your ass in an attempt to sound professional when you truly are not. It boggles my mind as to how you even got accepted with your potentially poor application that is swathed with many acronyms and abbreviations. I thought you were a seven year old at first. If you're going to insult, at least try to speak correct English by looking up the words you are using.
Nicro327 10 months ago
most useless shit i've ever seen. and i have to read the comments to get to know what's what in the clip. just ridiculous ...
yapyapyapyapyap 1 year ago
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yapyapyapyapyap 1 year ago
I really hate blender fans.. because they can't except what the point is.. also they can't read because if u search on google u can read the answer why blender is not the program.. and poore people who can't afford a higher program are going to arguing that blender is the number one tool Ow my god please let it go blender fans get a life blender is great but it's to slow for big company products end of story. and also the example above is pathetic! maya is 1000x strong faster then blender noobs!
dreamerboy1231 1 year ago
@dreamerboy1231
your points are true but remember blender is still a young program and its developers are not full time(or so i think). yes maya is the real deal, i have tried it, but some ppl just arent ready for maya, dont like it or just want to do 3D as a hobby. however, for an open source, blender can handle itself pretty well and is not too basic. its more intermediate and a good starter program for future 3d artists. blender may not grow to be like maya, but it will grow to be a good app
HDHOTDUDE 1 year ago
@dreamerboy1231
you know the point is, blender doesn't cost a cent.....
Adoringprodigyfan 1 year ago
Ow my god.. hahah al those people are arguing about blender.. it's so funny I pay my bills with 3d graphics and blender is a great tool but it is to slow.. ILM, Wetta, Digital domain, and big other companys will never use this product because it is the slow and sure u can uild great things with it but with a big tool like max or maya or houdini or XSI u have u'r work done in a month blender will take a year so time is money so please stop argue about blender,blender is a nice tool to use at home
dreamerboy1231 1 year ago
I started with Maya first but later I switched to Blender because it is much faster with respect to Dynamic Simulations and it's much easier plus it is FREE!! So why waste your time and money.
catchlinil123 1 year ago
@catchlinil123 Sorry ?.. Blender is much faster then maya ?.. then u have a problem with u'r skils or u aren't ready for a big graphics tool, But never say that blender is faster then houdini or maya or max or other high program's because blender is the slowest on the list for real high projects. sure blender is fun for home but on this moment blender will not make it to hollywoord or even video games.
dreamerboy1231 1 year ago
@dreamerboy1231 There's many projects that have been made in Blender. Examples: Final Fantasy XVII - the movie. The Incredibles, The Incredibles II..... Spiderman III......
antifrituras 1 year ago
@antifrituras ? u wish I know with tools are used and blender is never used for big projects, and spiderman 3 is build with maya for animation final fantasy is also made with maya and dynamics with houdini. and the incredibles ? hahah.. is also made with maya pixar does't use blender.. just learn to accept that blender will never be used in hollywood it is to slow for real production. u can build great stuff with blender but it can never compare to big tools like max or maya or xsi or houdini.
dreamerboy1231 1 year ago
@antifrituras ? u wish I know with tools are used and blender is never used for big projects, and spiderman 3 is build with maya for animation final fantasy is also made with maya and dynamics with houdini. and the incredibles ? hahah.. is also made with maya pixar does't use blender.. just learn to accept that blender will never be used in hollywood it is to slow for real production. u can build great stuff with blender but it can never compare to big tools like max or maya or xsi or houdini.
dreamerboy1231 1 year ago
@dreamerboy1231 That's a lie.... Pixar uses Wings3d - modeling UV Characters -, and Blender.
antifrituras 1 year ago
@antifrituras it's not a lie, U just don't know what Blender is, Blender is more like windows and maya or max is more like unix or linux system. windows is basic and maya or max or xsi or houdini are advanced. if u want to get a real great effect with maya u have to do much more then pressing some buttons u have to program more and make u'r own scripts and also Blender is to slow what can do in blender in a year, maya or max or houdini are doing this in a month, ( time is money)
dreamerboy1231 1 year ago
@antifrituras ow I have a friend at digital domain and he send me this.. The movies that used Blender was
sintel project london, Kajimba lighthouse ,murnau the vampire, elephants dreambounce to space, Big Buck Bunny, MeischeidMan in Man Softboy, Esign, Plumiferos, Chicken chair , Mindfields. So pixar has never used blender or wetta or Ilm or other big company's. and also the incredible's used maya and max and renderman. I have the making of there was no Blender !.
dreamerboy1231 1 year ago
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Good Video!
But the Blender Fluid Simulation could be better.
Nightmare1066 wrote already: it all depends on how experienced the user is
Even... nice yob
MrLasla 1 year ago
You cannot really compare the graphics the programs because it all depends on how experienced the user is and how much time he dedicates to.
Nightmare1066 1 year ago
fuck blender and dont say its free bla bla bull. its using hotkeys like a fuckin c64.
how many movies have been made in blender? and how many have been made in maya? blender have been around since 1998 and only sintel and bucks bunny are known from blender. only stupid tutorials like press ctrl alt D+G+H+J to make a square, and now kids we will make a glass,fuck that shit.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 Fuck off you child. There modeling programs get over it.
BigdogWitBigdog 1 year ago
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I'm a student who is working toward a career in the game industry and to tell you the truth is really doesn't mater in terms of Maya vs blender; because any one who is really serious about making games/media is going to use Maya for it's strengths and blender for it's strengths as well. In reality developers use many programs in development. Oh and you can master both it's called 4 years industry experience
bigblue21148 1 year ago
I'm a student who is working toward a career in the game industry and to tell you the truth is really doesn't mater in terms of Maya vs blender; because any one who is really serious about making games/media is going to use Maya for it's strengths and blender for it's strengths as well. In reality developers use many programs in development. Oh and you can master both it's called 4 years industry experiance
bigblue21148 1 year ago
i know Maya is more expensive so i guess it should be better .
Arajack 1 year ago
everybody that fucks with what 3d animation program is better is just a douche. as you can see in the video if a person is good in blender it can look better then 3ds max or maya. it doesnt fuckin matter if you stick with a software and practice you will be pro and make other 3dsmax blender or maya look bad.. SO DOUCHES STICK WITH 1 PROGRAM!!!!!! P.S. i use blender
106denis 1 year ago 7
This was before Blender's smoke simulation system... not a fair test...
TheFXGuy 1 year ago
u need to update this vid cos of blender 2.5 which has even better simulations
Horia747 1 year ago
Blender wins :D
mattguitar1000 1 year ago
You know that really depends on skills You have on both of these programs... ;)
0SmooK0 1 year ago 2
smoke example 2 beats example 1. However example 1 in both water and fire beat example 2.
ImmortalAcorn 1 year ago
Okay one last comment just to clarify what I said about water simulation. For the most realistic water, studios turn to RealFlow, a standalone program and plugin (for Maya, 3DSMax, etc) that won the 2008 Oscar for technical achievement. It offers INSANELY realistic water. Check out videos for it here on YouTube. I am not affiliated with RF in any way.
pulseforce 1 year ago 6
@pulseforce News: Maya will be getting *MASSIVELY* improved water including particles mixing together to create new colors. Incredible stuff. Rivaling the quality of RealFlow. Search YouTube for "Maya Fluids Technology Preview".
pulseforce 7 months ago
The only thing I agree with is that Maya's water simulations look awful. That has always been a problem with Maya, which is why there are plenty of commercial plugins to create the most realistic water imaginable. There are many 3rd party water solutions, and you can be sure that big movie productions use THOSE and not the built-in water shown here, because Maya's built-in water is bad indeed. :-) That is just one small weakness in an otherwise insanely powerful program.
pulseforce 1 year ago 7
@pulseforce umm.. maya can create very realistic water but the problem is do u know mel ? I can create water just like real flow in maya but u need to program it that's the hard part in maya.
dreamerboy1231 9 months ago
You also need to search for "maya fluids fire" here on youtube to see plenty of INCREDIBLY REALISTIC fires created in Maya. Even though it is fantastic to have a free alternative in Blender, Maya is the industry standard because it's incredibly powerful.
pulseforce 1 year ago 6
As some have already pointed out, this test is biased and incorrect, simply because the author is not proficient in Maya and incorrectly set up the effects. Of course Maya looks bad if you do it wrong! search for the video "maya fluid rocket launch" and look around at other Maya fluid videos and tell me you see a difference between maya smoke and REAL LIFE SMOKE. ;)
pulseforce 1 year ago 16
@pulseforce Ya, but in blender, you get the same shit for free! Why would I pay 1400 dollars for something, when I can get something just as good for free.
BigdogWitBigdog 1 year ago
@BigdogWitBigdog i knew you would say that shit, that its free and all that bull crap.
It is free becuase its shit. put a price on blender as the other programs and no one would buy that shit. No proffesional games are made in your shitty blender program
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 Dude, lol. I's free because the developers know people won't worship and suck their dicks. Blender is just as good as maya, maya is more popular because it costs money, it is generally thought that because something costs money, that it;s better. In this case, not true. Blender is the same shit. Maya doesn't have anything over blender and vice versa. Eiher way, you can not go wrong with either. And who cares if no "commercial" products use blender?!?!
BigdogWitBigdog 1 year ago
@BigdogWitBigdog maya has alot of things blender doesnt have, support,
tons of proffesional tutorials, a very good GUI, and Mental ray , and most important of all jobs waiting for those who knows maya. cant say the same thing for Blender
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derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 That's a vice versa thing. There is things Maya has that blender doesn't and vice versa. The only reason Maya has people that wanna know if you can use it, is because it is more of an industry standard. And good artists generally know multiple programs anyways. The GUI isn't bad in blender. Maya is a bit more streamlined from what I noticed in the trial. But Blender's is not hard to learn, and when you do learn it you won't have problems.
BigdogWitBigdog 1 year ago
@BigdogWitBigdog
"Blender's is not hard to learn, and when you do learn it you won't have problems."?? hellooooo ?!?! once you learn how to speak in bangladeshian with out a good book or a teacher you wont have a problem speaking it.. typical blender logic. Why do you think Maya is industry standard? when companies can save loads of cash using blender??? it is becuase it is fucked up.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 What I am saying is blenders UI is a bit tricky to learn. BUT, once you do learn it, you will have no problems what so ever. Now, to end this discussion, both are great. Which ever you choose, you get a great software. And, it's a plus to learn how to use multiple softwares(blender, and Maya).
BigdogWitBigdog 1 year ago
@BigdogWitBigdog once you learn blender you wont get a job.
once you learn maya you will get a job.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 I know Blender and I have a job in the 3D industry. Do you even take into consideration of indie studios. Many indie studios use Blender over Maya. And again, I can't stress this enough. WHO THE HELL CARES OF MORE BIG TIME COMPANY'S USE IT?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?! I know Blender, and a small amount of Maya. If I wanted to, I could learn Maya. I don't however because MY company requires Blender. Dude, how can you look at yourself in the mirror when you are a fanboy about softwares?
BigdogWitBigdog 1 year ago
@BigdogWitBigdog you and your one-man-company?
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 There are no commercial products made with blender because blender users are mostly hobbyists who don't have time for making such things, though blender surely has the abilities to be a good tool for making commercial products. And if you don't like some things blender, just take it's source code and modify it, it's that easy. Now tell me can you modify Maya like that. What I'm saying is that if there's something you want to change, you can with blender, not with Maya.
DatafoxStudios 1 year ago
@DatafoxStudios Continuing previous message...
Now you are going to whine about "not everyone can modify source codes." I know indeed, but coding is one big business and you can get even better jobs with coding than you can get with Maya skillz. Coding was used to make Maya. Coding was used to make the damn Windows piece of shit you're using. Also, almost all software companies have some kind of Linux projects these days. Now say, can you run Maya in Linux?
DatafoxStudios 1 year ago
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@DatafoxStudios They dont have time to do commericial products? but they have time to learn programing and re-write a whole software?
Do you modify blender yourself?
derek4272 1 year ago
@DatafoxStudios They dont have time to make comercial products?
But they have time to learn programing to rewrite a whole software?
here we go with the blender logic again.
do you change things in blender?
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 Why to rewrite when you can just modify a tiny bit of it? I haven't touched the blender source really, but I have done many plugins that help me with many problems like modeling and ray-tracing etc.
And it's more about motivation than time really.
DatafoxStudios 1 year ago
@DatafoxStudios Why is there even such a function in blender!? becuase they know they done a shitty job with the GUI and they have no taste for such things, the creators are not proffesionals when ot comes to designing a GUI in a 3D program.I dont care if Maya runs in Linux or not. but there is a version that works in Linux FYI. Its all about time not fucking motivation. i dont wanna spend 1 month just to solve a problem and looking at amateur blender tutorials of ginger men on you tube.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 I'm not gonna fight with shitheads like you who don't understand that everyone can use what they like. I'm gonna continue using Blender and you're gonna continue using Maya and we live happily ever after. The end.
DatafoxStudios 1 year ago
@DatafoxStudios Fight? are you fighting? hahaha. what are you crying about ?,you started talking to me, telling me shit like you have to learn programing.
derek4272 1 year ago
@derek4272 I agree that!!! But I love using Blender on FreeBsd.
antifrituras 1 year ago
@BigdogWitBigdog Blender isn't "just as good" as Maya. Not even debatable. It has a lot of power, sure, but it cannot compete with Alias/Autodesk's decades of experience, hordes of artists that know how to use it, and millions upon millions of dollars in research and development. I would laugh at you if you wanted to run a professional graphics house with Blender artists. It's doable, sure, but any company worth its salt would get venture capital and invest in proper machines and software.
pulseforce 1 year ago
By the way, students can pay $100 and get a complete collection of all Autodesk software; including Maya, 3D Studio Max and Mudbox with a license that never expires, all components (cloth, fluid, etc), the rights to use it for commercial work during studies as well as after graduating(!), NO WATERMARKING, the ability to upgrade to a regular license at heavily reduced price, and the knowledge that they will get work after graduating since they know the industry standard. Blender is for hobbyists.
pulseforce 1 year ago
Im glad i have blender. it looks better than maya.
wolfquestlover13 1 year ago
the water is awesome
quosmo1 1 year ago
maya has definately the better fire
FischKopfD 1 year ago
Only reason I think Blender is better because it's free. However if I had the funds I would switch over to Maya instead.
Quoranation 1 year ago
now blenders fire PWNS mayas
testingte 1 year ago
That's bull. The person who made the smoke didn't know how to use maya Fluids I guess. May fluids are very good for smoke. Much better than the example 2. Also the water was much more "bigger" in the example 2, which makes it look better. Although, maya water even with nparticles sucks.
teemue 1 year ago
And have you noticed that Maya sucks?
TheBlackFridays 1 year ago
I mean 'using maya' not 'using it'
kerog6 1 year ago
I think that blender is much better, it's just more skilled companies are using it instead of blender.
kerog6 1 year ago
Why not get the updated versions of both programs and Then rerun the tests i hate recent comments who comment on old crap :D
ErrorrPerfect 1 year ago
I think Blender looks better in the smoke. The fluid looks about even.
TheFXGuy 1 year ago
Great video!!! Thanks a lot. Really reinforces my belief in blender. =)
The49ersEmpire89 1 year ago
blender is better...i tried maya. OMG modeling is so slow and it's so messy...can't find anything ...
Hermoor 1 year ago
@Hermoor i said that about maya wtf lol Well only Blender 2.4 I HATE 2.4!!!, 2.5 is awesome :D reminds me of Maya 2011
ErrorrPerfect 1 year ago
From what I've learned so far Maya and Blender are both decent. Only issue I have with Maya is that I can't sell my work with a student license... at least not legally of course.
Kaikumach 1 year ago
blender wins most over the tools and faster time taken of an activitiy ... and maya wins advanced tool that makes hard and the uses of companies!!
but as u can seen, blender should be also together commercial with maya and 3ds max!! coz it have some powerful tools as the rest!! unfortunately, its release open source!!
Yukizatsu 1 year ago
damn blender beats mayas ass pretty goodly
mmmax111 1 year ago
psh who needs to "pay" for shit, I got maya for free, SUCK IT AUTODESK lol
nameno1elsehas 1 year ago
@nameno1elsehas how?!!
TyylerS 1 year ago
@TyylerS majik
nameno1elsehas 1 year ago
blender wins
smithy8u 1 year ago
Maya's pricetag makes it not worth the trouble. I'll stick to blender it's free and has a huge user base.
Quoranation 1 year ago
You need to add more information. What is Maya and what is Blender here?
The 2 fires look real to me, but coming from a diferent source, the first look like some type of flammable liquid and the second look like fire coming from a medieval torch.
The same thing occurs with the smoke, the second smoke is being thrown violently into the air, but the first not.
You clearly were not able to simulate the SAME effect in both programs.
deadoverlord 2 years ago
Sorry, now i saw that you already said that 1 is maya and 2 is blender.
deadoverlord 2 years ago
i'm an art student and you save a shit ton of money on maya, 3Dsmax when you need them for school. its only a few hundred dollars for both.
TheWaynelds 2 years ago
2 1 2
aloywkd 2 years ago
Lmao what a video... You should put a new comparison in the video... A wallet with 5000 dollars in it, and one thats empty. Because this clearly explains why there is a blender in the first place. Also you could of put more effort into the blender examples. I've seen MUCH better fire,smoke, maybe not so much water... From blender... So i feel it's a bit of a biased video. But please, this is my opinion, no offense intended.
danielkirk1 2 years ago 2
Maya is more expensive but Blender is free.
I think Blender is good because it is available for almost anyone. I think Blender has makes good still images but the animations can't beat Maya. (Dreamworks use Maya)
lukedacreator 2 years ago
@lukedacreator I second that! Also the new version of blender(currently in alpha stage) will rock our worlds. Please smack your hand if you reach out for overpriced software :P
*note* I acknowledge that Maya is the rolls Royce of 3d animation, but... Blender is advancing well and will eventually surpass Maya... For the reason that professional 3d animators in the blender community will help it shine.
danielkirk1 2 years ago 4
@danielkirk1 i heard the same thing 5 years ago, still waiting. People forget Maya has capital behind its development... Unless it has a community like the linux crowd you will be hard pressed to ever see blender outdo maya, what we will see is very similar programs, one being much less.
ColdfireTrilogy 1 year ago
@ColdfireTrilogy I'm telling you right now. If blender became the professional standard, all other developers would shit thier pants. For the simple fact that blender is Free. Autodesk is gonna run out of features and be a mediocre program, while blender gathers interest from beginners/kids/ex programmers/artists.
Please Quote me if i'm right in the future, because i know a fare share about software. Ty for your reply and you make a fair point that also could be possible.
danielkirk1 1 year ago
Blender smoke looked more like steam, blender water is quite good. Maya fire is much better tho.
AstDerek 2 years ago
this is great and all, but Pixar uses Maya. And these effects here are not fully utilizing Maya at all, looks like some intermediate stuff if you ask me.
I like Blender and Maya both, I prefer blender cause it's cheaper, but i don't agree with skewing one way or the other and misinforming the public.
the7egend 2 years ago
You can get autodesk maya 2010 for free you know its illegal but simple and easy i can help you if you want
mikegrung 2 years ago
There's also a student edition.
yodabejedi 2 years ago
TBH the people in the industry use MEL(Scripting for Maya).
And They have years of experience.
Jagatia 2 years ago
the blender smoke and water were better!
Knexxuss 2 years ago 10
@Knexxuss not the fire?
WeedingWaimbow 1 year ago
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cilo56 2 years ago
yea but blenders FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
Esuld 2 years ago
ok good video but can you tell me your opinion about this
programs hahahha don't worry i won't tell anyone again i liked the video nice.
Davidperez061 2 years ago
I disagree with this post for two main reasons: One, I think that some of the physics were skewed to the creator's personal opinions. And two: Maya and Blender are very much the same, they pretty much are the same, I viewed the source code for both. Open or not. It's not the programs that are better, it's the person who is using the program.
Someone could use Anim8or and totally pwn someone using Maya or Blender.
TheMikester1990 2 years ago
No way! Anim8or sucks
lukedacreator 2 years ago
Blender > Maya...
you might think blender is crap because its free but its actually way more user and friendly WAY less cluttered, but of course if youre making an actual film then maya
P.S. blender has a game engine so clear winner in my eyes
tommya06 2 years ago
blender it's much better about the fluid simulation. Maya it's good at the smoke and fire simulation. But I choose Blender: It's legally free.
antifrituras 2 years ago 3