I believe in some senses Mary is better than vibeke in some parts. Sure she shouldn't touch shining path and beyond the veil but songs like these sound better because her voice is so much richer and powerful in the right moments. Vibeke was a soubette suprano and had a very light airy and angelic voice but it was easily drowned out in instances, Mary is a dramatic mezzo who has her uses. Lets see Vibeke try and pull off protection, amnesia or sirens with the same strength and emotion.
i dont understand why people come to a video and watch a band play and then complain... its like a crying contest on here... lets see who can cry harder!
Apart from this, the goth-looking and detailed kind of music they record on CD's are not the suitable ones to play on open-air and daylighted festivals like this.
I like almost all the albums (from Widow's Weeds to Rubicon), but not how they play live.
Vibeke left 3 years ago, and we're still not over it? Everybody is so fucking whiny. Mary is no Vibeke, but she brings her charm and style into the band. If you don't like it, GTFO.
WTF??????? are they so unsure about marys voice that they dont let her sing the femele solo parts alone??? juesus i dont know im staring to dislike it!!!!!!!!!!!
Tristania is just not the same anymore without Vibeke this new singer lacks gothic attitude and emotions, they better come up with a really kickass new album or else they are in deep shit
The bald guy can't sing his part properly, and this woman sounds like a jazz singer who's waiting for someone among the audience to figure out she's not supposed to be singing in this band.
They could have at least had the common sense to form a new band, since this is DEFINITELY NOT Tristania.
k paso con tristania?, solia ser una banda de culto, espere tanto verlos en mi pais, y cuando al fin vienen, me dan ganas de pedir mi dinero de vuelta
Pera aí, aquele cara queria fazer um gutural? Credo...Mais parece uma banda cover do Tristania. A Mary até que é boa. Mas esse show não foi um dos melhores.
Stop Whining! You people live in the past!....They are a progressive band, have been and always will be. It's all about diversity...If you hate Mary Whatever! Go listen to one of their other 6 albums and Shut the F' up! I like their old music but ya know what? I LOVE their new music! LONG LIVE TRISTANIA!
Being open-minded is a virtue. But there are two FACTS that bother me
1)Mary's range (how many pitches she can generate) is smaller than Vibeke's, therefore the songs are changed dramatically to adjust her range.
2)The new sound of their songs (and arrangements done to the old songs) follow MAINSTREAM tendencies.
Like you said they were all about change, but not towards Mainstream. Mainstream tend to be what most people like so its no surprise that some people like their new sound.
1) It is not about range, she is lacking technique but since she didn't study i am not gonna say a lot, i just need to add she is just hurting herself 'coz she is singing in the incorrect 'place'.
2) ...they suck -_- for me the other ones were not just better but more 'sale-able'.
@espam2002 Good one! You close minded fuck! Who the fuck are you anyways? Your obviously pretty insecure if you're putting your age at 109! And anyone with the word spam in thier screen name without putting something derogatory before or after it should go bl*w their f*cking br*ins out! Seriously pussy, talk some more shit... I'm just getting started! PS. MARY ALL THE WAY BABY! FUCK YEAH!
No Adam, that's "Espam"; consider learning a second (or first?) language some day.
You state that the band is progressive, which is fine, however that contradicts what's presented in their performance of a new song: a mediocre high school band performing of a typical and poorly written 'rock song.' Fans come to a band for what they've done. To change that going forward is self-defeating (as will be proven).
Anyway, you're clearly only willing to debate issues other than the music, so ta.
Pinche gordo de mierda, en verdad atrofía toda la rola, que decir de Mariangela, simplemente extraordinaria en la voz y en la imagen, una mujer muy bella. Pero ese gordo es una basura, tristemente la fuerza y la brutalidad de tristania como banda se han perdido.
As you can see, most people which complain about the formation has "nightwish" on the username, they watched too much mtv and now they think the female singer is the entire band and keep wining about how good the former one was, but people doesnt seem to remember that tristania never had a permanent formation and that mary is NOT the entire band, and who is morten anyways? what albums was he part of? people seems to forget about the music and worries to much about their "divas" to worship
if you don't know who Morten Veland is and/or what albums he was part of, you don't know shit about the TRUE Tristania, he wrote all the classic songs of Tristania
let's see if this band on stage under the name of Tristania can top the masterpiece that Morten Veland has written
Yes, I do like Nightwish, but I'm also fully aware that the lead vocalist is not the entire band. If anyone is the structure of that band, it is Tuomas Holopaine
@dungeonofdarkness who gives a shit if they still use the name Tristania -- Tristania has evolved. just because Morten wanted to go do things his way -- doesnt mean that these guys have to leave Tristania, its name, and its music behind. If you want Morten, go listen to Sirenia -- that is, done his way, written by him, (practically) performed by him, and leave those of us who like Tristania the way it is now alone.
Kjetil seems to have a hard time hitting the low notes, I can't say I blame him though, Østen goes ridiculously low in songs like this one, and Equilibrium for example.
Dios, que mal suena, el gordo nisiquiera puede llegar alas notas, la parte donde debe meter voz gutural, le sale voz de niña, hay que aceptarlo, aqui mary se esfuerza, feo no le sale, pero el gordo lo jode. se mete en su parte, que terrible, y el guittarrista a todo esto no dice nada ?
deberia botarlo, que nunca mas cante con ellos, han bajado las notas de guitarra se han dado cuenta ?
2:45 en la parte inferior central hay tres tipos que en todo el concierto de tristania les vale gorro
Well all due respect, previous poster, but Mary appears to have a lot more vocal talent than Cristina Scabbia.
And for the one who wondered, where is Tristania - bands change. Their music change. you would not play the same music over and over again some 10 years, right?
now they are very similar to lacuna coil or something like that...i prefer the kind of singer of the old singer....the new singer is like a copy of cristina scabbia, but she's a good singer too
I believe in some senses Mary is better than vibeke in some parts. Sure she shouldn't touch shining path and beyond the veil but songs like these sound better because her voice is so much richer and powerful in the right moments. Vibeke was a soubette suprano and had a very light airy and angelic voice but it was easily drowned out in instances, Mary is a dramatic mezzo who has her uses. Lets see Vibeke try and pull off protection, amnesia or sirens with the same strength and emotion.
Hippydude777 1 month ago
The female guitarist is beatiful!
gustaventura 3 months ago
i dont understand why people come to a video and watch a band play and then complain... its like a crying contest on here... lets see who can cry harder!
intranick 6 months ago
Morten Veland is overrated. Tristania was at it's best after he left, while Vibeke was still in the band.
handofxsorrow 7 months ago
tbh, I really don't mind Rubicon, neither these new singers, The problem is when they start singing the old material.
Amsanc 9 months ago
I think the female guitarist is more beautiful than the singer. I love this song and they performed it well. Tristania Forever.
filth69ify1 9 months ago 3
Pisstania <3
chloboshoka 10 months ago
Wacken's 2009 performance was not good at all.
Apart from this, the goth-looking and detailed kind of music they record on CD's are not the suitable ones to play on open-air and daylighted festivals like this.
I like almost all the albums (from Widow's Weeds to Rubicon), but not how they play live.
trebacio 1 year ago
Pisstania should stop copying Nightwish and should stop making dreadful Tristania covers.
chloboshoka 1 year ago
I really hate how the bald dude thinks he has the right to sing in female parts like he did in the chorus and in World of Glass.
damnedxdivine 1 year ago
Que Saudadeee da Vibekeeee
Meow
:(
Podia Mudar o Nome Para Tristeza
CahhMan5on 1 year ago
Nah,even though i like her voice she is still painful to hear on old songs.
MrVolokine 1 year ago
Vibeke left 3 years ago, and we're still not over it? Everybody is so fucking whiny. Mary is no Vibeke, but she brings her charm and style into the band. If you don't like it, GTFO.
SirenOfTheSeas 1 year ago
@SirenOfTheSeas same as Nihgtwish, those who dont like Annette and Mariangela, just why od they hear songs with them????. Mary´s got the heavy touch.
agominator 1 year ago
GOOD!!! RULES MARY...
MsCorpes 1 year ago
Que lixo ... ele parece que tá com uma batata quente na boca !!
Horrível ... detestei .
HigherHigh90 1 year ago
they are progressing more towards the gathering, look and sound wise
AstarealRomance 1 year ago 2
the new morten veland's project kicks ass, it's named Mortemia
TheSevenkiller 1 year ago
WTF??????? are they so unsure about marys voice that they dont let her sing the femele solo parts alone??? juesus i dont know im staring to dislike it!!!!!!!!!!!
all1813 1 year ago
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perkele181 1 year ago
destruction of mercyside !!!
aliveblackdevil 1 year ago 5
WTF ¬¬
where is the real tristania??? what is thissssss????
MARY sucks..!!!
Kjetil is ok..!!! but Mary really suckss..!!!
Libal1731 1 year ago 5
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@Libal1731 Kjetil is NOT ok..!!! Tristania is dead without Morten, Vibeke, Østen, Rune and Kenneth
gregorians 1 year ago
wtf is thiss ¬¬
Libal1731 1 year ago
They're no longer gothic band..
acidkomodo 2 years ago 2
Tristania is just not the same anymore without Vibeke this new singer lacks gothic attitude and emotions, they better come up with a really kickass new album or else they are in deep shit
snajamh 2 years ago
The bald guy can't sing his part properly, and this woman sounds like a jazz singer who's waiting for someone among the audience to figure out she's not supposed to be singing in this band.
They could have at least had the common sense to form a new band, since this is DEFINITELY NOT Tristania.
thehornedviper 2 years ago 17
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perkele181 2 years ago
They need some HUGE songs like they used to have...
TwilightAronXD 2 years ago 3
huh wheres osten??
VampireXDi 2 years ago
.__. caring his twins and gf.
SakumaRyuichiNG 2 years ago
ohh ok
VampireXDi 2 years ago
^^ no prob (but guess people is wondering when he's back D=)
SakumaRyuichiNG 2 years ago
k paso con tristania?, solia ser una banda de culto, espere tanto verlos en mi pais, y cuando al fin vienen, me dan ganas de pedir mi dinero de vuelta
MsCatacumba1 2 years ago
something good about the tristania's change? ---"tristania" --- ....the sexy woman in the guitar there.
SakumaRyuichiNG 2 years ago
Pera aí, aquele cara queria fazer um gutural? Credo...Mais parece uma banda cover do Tristania. A Mary até que é boa. Mas esse show não foi um dos melhores.
maibrazilian 2 years ago
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Miriamnorum 2 years ago
Stop Whining! You people live in the past!....They are a progressive band, have been and always will be. It's all about diversity...If you hate Mary Whatever! Go listen to one of their other 6 albums and Shut the F' up! I like their old music but ya know what? I LOVE their new music! LONG LIVE TRISTANIA!
2xAdam 2 years ago
Being open-minded is a virtue. But there are two FACTS that bother me
1)Mary's range (how many pitches she can generate) is smaller than Vibeke's, therefore the songs are changed dramatically to adjust her range.
2)The new sound of their songs (and arrangements done to the old songs) follow MAINSTREAM tendencies.
Like you said they were all about change, but not towards Mainstream. Mainstream tend to be what most people like so its no surprise that some people like their new sound.
dunkelblau2006 2 years ago 2
1) It is not about range, she is lacking technique but since she didn't study i am not gonna say a lot, i just need to add she is just hurting herself 'coz she is singing in the incorrect 'place'.
2) ...they suck -_- for me the other ones were not just better but more 'sale-able'.
SakumaRyuichiNG 2 years ago
Not surprising considering your shitty taste in music.
espam2002 2 years ago
@espam2002 Good one! You close minded fuck! Who the fuck are you anyways? Your obviously pretty insecure if you're putting your age at 109! And anyone with the word spam in thier screen name without putting something derogatory before or after it should go bl*w their f*cking br*ins out! Seriously pussy, talk some more shit... I'm just getting started! PS. MARY ALL THE WAY BABY! FUCK YEAH!
2xAdam 2 years ago
No Adam, that's "Espam"; consider learning a second (or first?) language some day.
You state that the band is progressive, which is fine, however that contradicts what's presented in their performance of a new song: a mediocre high school band performing of a typical and poorly written 'rock song.' Fans come to a band for what they've done. To change that going forward is self-defeating (as will be proven).
Anyway, you're clearly only willing to debate issues other than the music, so ta.
espam2002 2 years ago 3
Pinche gordo de mierda, en verdad atrofía toda la rola, que decir de Mariangela, simplemente extraordinaria en la voz y en la imagen, una mujer muy bella. Pero ese gordo es una basura, tristemente la fuerza y la brutalidad de tristania como banda se han perdido.
alfredo4059 2 years ago
Totalmente en contra, para mí es Kjetil el que hace un trabajo decente; Mary está totalmente fuera.
SakumaRyuichiNG 2 years ago
Tristania, Tristania...why did you fade away? Where are gone your Gothic emotions?
jackborsatti 2 years ago 5
There is a bird on the head of Mary or is just her hair :S
CrsTTn92 2 years ago
This is not Tristania... ='(
Madragon32167 2 years ago 4
i miss...
Tristania (cuz i'm not sure what this is)
vibeke's voice
vibeke's dance
the magic of their music
and so on
darkis1201 2 years ago 3
tiene buena voz, pero pierde la magia... me alegro que el album fue grabado antes de la salida de vibeke...
en fin, ahora la veremos para el prox album... tal vez? xD
darkis1201 2 years ago
esto no es tristania... es tristenia!!!!!!!!!
heavyseba 2 years ago 3
i think this gus must change the name of band
this is not tristania wheres osten
where are u vibeke !!
aliveblackdevil 2 years ago 2
where is Ostenn?????? oh my god.. dont tell me he leaves the band too pleasee!!
Libal1731 2 years ago 2
He has nomore hair and long beard?
jackborsatti 2 years ago
Osten didn´t leave the band but he becomes father with twins so Kjetil substitutes him for live shows only.
Vallenttine 2 years ago
@ userneime, no - mary is not entire band but she ruins the band...
irongirl6666 2 years ago
@ userneime....
Totally agree with you!
damiendoom 2 years ago
Kjetil is good but I miss Østen's voice in this song.
irongirl6666 2 years ago
Kjetil is great, but isent he just a step in while the real one is away cause of his new born twins
OrmirKjetilson 2 years ago 2
As you can see, most people which complain about the formation has "nightwish" on the username, they watched too much mtv and now they think the female singer is the entire band and keep wining about how good the former one was, but people doesnt seem to remember that tristania never had a permanent formation and that mary is NOT the entire band, and who is morten anyways? what albums was he part of? people seems to forget about the music and worries to much about their "divas" to worship
userneime 2 years ago
i'm agree with you
l4r13n 2 years ago
if you don't know who Morten Veland is and/or what albums he was part of, you don't know shit about the TRUE Tristania, he wrote all the classic songs of Tristania
let's see if this band on stage under the name of Tristania can top the masterpiece that Morten Veland has written
Yes, I do like Nightwish, but I'm also fully aware that the lead vocalist is not the entire band. If anyone is the structure of that band, it is Tuomas Holopaine
dungeonofdarkness 2 years ago 24
@dungeonofdarkness why don't you just go and suck Morten's dick dry?
Dakedoom 1 year ago 3
@dungeonofdarkness who gives a shit if they still use the name Tristania -- Tristania has evolved. just because Morten wanted to go do things his way -- doesnt mean that these guys have to leave Tristania, its name, and its music behind. If you want Morten, go listen to Sirenia -- that is, done his way, written by him, (practically) performed by him, and leave those of us who like Tristania the way it is now alone.
intranick 3 months ago
Kjetil seems to have a hard time hitting the low notes, I can't say I blame him though, Østen goes ridiculously low in songs like this one, and Equilibrium for example.
hermanessences 2 years ago
the girl guitarist has no stage presence lol and olaf has a great voice but he should scream he sucks at it xD
AstarealRomance 2 years ago
i mean kjetil
AstarealRomance 2 years ago
this is SOOOO MUCH BETTER than the year before, great progress!
hellcetchup 2 years ago 3
WTF!!!!
Que pedos con ese tipo gordo, bien chingon el y la voz mas espantosa que e oido... (God!!!)
Sobre Mary, nada que decir, simplemente es excelente como se ve y como canta...
Amm quien es la guitarrista, no sabia que habia guitarra femenina, no se ve mal...
Nitramcel 2 years ago
Well said. \m/
blackMesmer 2 years ago
This is one of my favourite Tristania songs, but this band doesn't seem the real Tristania any longer.
alejonightwish 2 years ago
Dios, que mal suena, el gordo nisiquiera puede llegar alas notas, la parte donde debe meter voz gutural, le sale voz de niña, hay que aceptarlo, aqui mary se esfuerza, feo no le sale, pero el gordo lo jode. se mete en su parte, que terrible, y el guittarrista a todo esto no dice nada ?
deberia botarlo, que nunca mas cante con ellos, han bajado las notas de guitarra se han dado cuenta ?
2:45 en la parte inferior central hay tres tipos que en todo el concierto de tristania les vale gorro
joseinferno 2 years ago
Wow, male singer is shit, wtf is he doing? that's def not singing. Of course, female singer is not better at all. RIP VIBEKE AND OSTEN.
LasgalenOsten 2 years ago
And Morten
sayonaralosen 2 years ago
a ese maldito gordo lo odio!!!!!!!!!!
i hate!! to kjetil q se calle cuando no debe de cantar!! arruina la cancion y supongo q mary andara molesta por eso ¬¬
lilithnightmare89 2 years ago
Well all due respect, previous poster, but Mary appears to have a lot more vocal talent than Cristina Scabbia.
And for the one who wondered, where is Tristania - bands change. Their music change. you would not play the same music over and over again some 10 years, right?
Marineerib 2 years ago 5
now they are very similar to lacuna coil or something like that...i prefer the kind of singer of the old singer....the new singer is like a copy of cristina scabbia, but she's a good singer too
retinueofmoons 2 years ago 3
At 1:26, Kjetil suffers to reach the low note of the song... Well, at least there's hope Osten to come back when his children are grown up a little.
BlackIndra 2 years ago 2
is kjetil back in the band?
amazing performance btw!
areyouqq 2 years ago
ooook!!! THIS is very fucking good!
hissingatrocity 2 years ago
where can i download this concert?
Josecarabarin 2 years ago
3,56 theres a mistake :D
BodomBlastBeats 2 years ago
Hey where is tristania?
It seems like another band
CrsTTn92 2 years ago
not the best preformance of this song... there better than this
all1813 2 years ago
wow, this a new tristania mmm U.U it's rare
musikmood 2 years ago
Is there Kenneth on the drums?
felima999 2 years ago
No.
Charism8 2 years ago 2
Holy shit Kjetil is like clon of Osten - sometimes even better! Good choice!
Greetings for Osten and his expected family!
krzaq777 2 years ago 4
I agree, but wish he didn't have to back up Mary all the time, it's like she hardly sings anymore :(
SirenianNightfall 2 years ago
Yes Kjetil even better that Osten
astrape 2 years ago