Regarding Question #2: The Cambrian Explosion in no way contradicts the Theory of Evolution. All geologists, and therefore paleontologists will concede that the fossil record is vastly incomplete. The Burgess Shale is unique in that it contains literally millions of fossils. However, there have been many recent finds of large, complex multicellular organisms that predate the Burgess Shale.
Regarding questions #1... Miller and Urey used the best information available at that time to guess (yes that's right, scientists do guess) what the early Earth's atmosphere, hydrosphere, and geosphere resembled. Admittedly, they knew they could have been wrong about those conditions. The experiment actually took place in 1952, and was a hallmark experiment--the reason why it is still discussed in textbooks--in synthesis of precursor molecules required for life.
Secondly, it's not very Christian to threaten people with death, simply because they don't believe the same things you do. By that measure, you must think that all Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc., "WILL DIE," right? I would call that a double standard. Furthermore, the scientists are not telling bornagain what to believe, nor are they going into Sunday school classrooms teaching science. It's sad that this discussion has to be reduced to juvenile rant and libel, no disrespect.
A fundamental tenet of Christianity is to seek out and embrace the truth. Thus, it's not Christian to deny all of the ever-mounting evidence supporting evolution. You see, the scientists budge, every time new evidence comes to light, and better understanding with it; yet the fundamentalists never budge, believe they are right no matter what, and feel the necessity to try to convince scientists they should believe something with no proof. Didn't God give us our insatiable curiosity to question?
Good job. Of course you realize that these "questions" aren't really questions because the people asking them (most likely the Discovery Institute) already know the answers. They just want idiot creationists to think there are no answers to these questions. I have yet to come across an honest creationist.
This not a religious debate in the least, no matter how much he wanted to change it into one. Religion and science can coexist and I hate fundamentals like bornagain001 that do not understand that and fight against it.
I think the reason he did not reply is that I was not going to play his game of evolution vs. god. He might have a case in the realm of religion (which is not that likely) but in the realm of science he has nothing.
Too true, I reckon God made science to keep us occupied and give us something to do while were waiting here on Earth. Weird idea, I know! Btw i liked your comment on the meaning of a day.
Evolution is a concept from ONE MAN'S MIND. Why should I accept a man's idea when God has told us specifically how he created it and in what order He did it? YOU ARE CORRECT! "Nothing about evolution questions the existence of god". Evolution IS HOWEVER, not what God has told us so why go through life with a misconception.
No, evolution is the change in allele in a population over time. We have observed this. Therefore, it is not a concept from one mans mind. The reason you should accept evolution is for the same reason you accept gravity and cell theory. They are all testable and falsifiable. Second, a story in a book is not telling us how a god created anything. It just says he did, not how he did it. Gravity and cell theory are not what a god told us also yet I bet you have no problem with them.
"evolution is the change in allele in a population over time. We have observed this."
Has ANYONE OBSERVED one species evolving into another species...say a fish evolving into a reptile or a monkey evolving into a man? I just need one person's name who has observed this.
Yes, we have seen speciation. I have a link to a site that lists observed speciation events in my video entitled "Evolution: Good Science".
"...say a fish evolving into a reptile or a monkey evolving into a man?" That is a straw man. No one claims that fish are evolving into reptiles or monkeys into men. Nevertheless, species have been observed changing into new ones.
"Has ANYONE OBSERVED one species evolving into another species" It's alway the same question from all the Creationists, Do your own study and maybe you will learn something. But I doubt it.
and you still believed in creation. Like I say I doubted you will ever learn anything because of you mind set. No amount of evidences gonna change your mind, so why are you keep watching these video. Stop spreading you ignorances.
"Jesus said to him, I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH and THE LIFE; NO MAN comes to the Father, but BY ME." John 14:6
You have been given FREE WILL to live your life without CHRIST. Unfortunately, we are not able to choose the consequences of the bad decisions we make in this lifetime which will affect our eternity.
Noone gave me anything. Humans have been around for a very short time compared to how long the Earth has been around. The claim in the Bible that all animals were created at the same time is 100 percent false. Taking the Bible literally is basically like disbelieving in science.
? Yes take a passage from the bible to prove the validity of the Bible. That always works. You can believe in this foolishness as much as you want, but I recently found the way of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. There is no evidence of his existence you say? Well isn't it obvious that he gave us the gift of pasta (which is high in carbohydrates) as a way to feel the energy of his Being? Not convinced? Well then that's ok you'll just spend eternity in agony. All hail his noodly appendages. Ramen.
YOU WILL DIE. There is no debating that. You joke about God now but 5 minutes after you die, the Flying Spaghetti Monster will not seem as funny. You will spend eternity separated from your family, friends, pets, hobbies. My suggestion is that you take DEATH as seriously as you do your life. JOHN 3:16
Yea I will die, but you know what, I am going to enjoy life. That means I'm not going to spend my time adhering to nonsense. The flying spaghetti monster is so funny because it is exactly what you believe, but instead of a flying spaghetti its a God that looks like man. I find it hysterical that you believe in heaven and hell when humans have been on the planet for such a small amount of time. As if God would make his chosen people a couple billion years after he made the universe.
"Yea I will die, but you know what, I am going to enjoy life"
As if Christians don't enjoy life. We date, marry, have kids, go to baseball games, buy homes, go on vacations. We do ALL the same things you do EXCEPT...we are ready if it should end for us today...YOU ARE NOT.
Thank you for telling me if I am "ready if it should end for [me] today". You know what, that totally makes sense...not. I do not believe in the bullshit you preach yet you still think that it applies to me. I enjoy life more than you ever can because I do not fear any potential consequences in the after life. I abide by the law, but I live my life the way I want to, not how some "God" wants me to.
The president of IRAN does not believe in the HOLOCAUST. Does his UNBELIEF make him correct.
Does your unbelief make you correct.
God tells us that we will all (including the murderer of Jon Benet Ramsey, Natalie Holloway, Jimmy Hoffa, Tupac Shakur, Jam Master Jay, Adam Walsh, Chandra Levy, Maddie McCann, Sam Giancana, Ronald Goldman, Nicole Brown Simpson) will ALL be held accountable. YOU TOO will account for every thing you have stolen and every lie you have told.
In the same way does your belief make You correct. I don't think I will account for anything (why do you assume that I steal and lie).The difference between the president of Iran's disbelief and mine is that their is extensive evidence that the Holocaust occurred. There is no evidence of a God, or if there is, no evidence that its your God.
@kevinnorthwestern Like you have just pointed out, there is a process to faith in God. And not faith in any God but faith in the God. First its discovering that God does exist and deciding to search for Him and discover who He is. This involves prayer, studying, research ect. Faith begins to build as you discover truths about God by using common sense, reason, and rational thought. There is evidence for God but you have to have eyes to see and ears to hear. I would be happy to discuss.
"Nothing about evolution questions the existents of god unless you make it."
"In the beginning, God CREATED." It does not say it evolved. As a matter of fact, God's Word goes on to say how long it took Him and in what order He created everything. Evolution is diametrically opposite of what God's Word says.
You do realize that humans wrote the bible. Humans are flawed. In addition, it says god created, it does not say how he created. Have you read the bible in the original Hebrew? Do you know that a day in Hebrew does not have many different meanings?
Discover magazine last year - Miller also froze samples for over 25 years (another early-earth hypothesis what with polar ice caps and all) and when thawed out, had organic compounds. Amazing! Too bad he didn't live to see all of his samples thawed out.
Good job Jebus6kryst. You really put them on their spot with a quick review of all the arguments, I have found that list a few times but the first time I saw the list was in the video of Extantdodo on video . google where they refute all the claims made by the Discovery institute about these 'icons of evolution'.
I see the 10 points you hit on over and over on the Internets.
I think the most frustrating one is creationists complete misunderstanding of what a theory is in the realm of science. And how evolution is both a fact and theory.
Anytime I get in a debate and this comes up, I just ask why gravity is called a theory. Usually all I get back is silence.
There is no way to get any further with these cultists if they can't even understand what a theory is!
Good work!
jahege 1 year ago
Good Job answering the questions.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Regarding Question #2: The Cambrian Explosion in no way contradicts the Theory of Evolution. All geologists, and therefore paleontologists will concede that the fossil record is vastly incomplete. The Burgess Shale is unique in that it contains literally millions of fossils. However, there have been many recent finds of large, complex multicellular organisms that predate the Burgess Shale.
skeptoid1974 2 years ago 5
i love the video!! that helped alot. what's this song called??
rebeccawashere 2 years ago
I am glad you like it.
The music is Sand Storm from Darude. I have that in the description box, along with the source I used for this video.
jebus6kryst 2 years ago
@jebus6kryst
The intro is "the wizard" by Black Sabbath
omertia 1 year ago
Regarding questions #1... Miller and Urey used the best information available at that time to guess (yes that's right, scientists do guess) what the early Earth's atmosphere, hydrosphere, and geosphere resembled. Admittedly, they knew they could have been wrong about those conditions. The experiment actually took place in 1952, and was a hallmark experiment--the reason why it is still discussed in textbooks--in synthesis of precursor molecules required for life.
skeptoid1974 2 years ago
Secondly, it's not very Christian to threaten people with death, simply because they don't believe the same things you do. By that measure, you must think that all Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc., "WILL DIE," right? I would call that a double standard. Furthermore, the scientists are not telling bornagain what to believe, nor are they going into Sunday school classrooms teaching science. It's sad that this discussion has to be reduced to juvenile rant and libel, no disrespect.
skeptoid1974 2 years ago
A fundamental tenet of Christianity is to seek out and embrace the truth. Thus, it's not Christian to deny all of the ever-mounting evidence supporting evolution. You see, the scientists budge, every time new evidence comes to light, and better understanding with it; yet the fundamentalists never budge, believe they are right no matter what, and feel the necessity to try to convince scientists they should believe something with no proof. Didn't God give us our insatiable curiosity to question?
skeptoid1974 2 years ago
Good job. Of course you realize that these "questions" aren't really questions because the people asking them (most likely the Discovery Institute) already know the answers. They just want idiot creationists to think there are no answers to these questions. I have yet to come across an honest creationist.
kalfjak 3 years ago 2
Hey this is cool, don't ya just love ethical and religious debates! And jebus, you sure showed him up! he hasn't replied!
catsif11143 3 years ago
This not a religious debate in the least, no matter how much he wanted to change it into one. Religion and science can coexist and I hate fundamentals like bornagain001 that do not understand that and fight against it.
I think the reason he did not reply is that I was not going to play his game of evolution vs. god. He might have a case in the realm of religion (which is not that likely) but in the realm of science he has nothing.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
Too true, I reckon God made science to keep us occupied and give us something to do while were waiting here on Earth. Weird idea, I know! Btw i liked your comment on the meaning of a day.
catsif11143 3 years ago
"And he (Christ)spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?" Luke 6:39
bornagain001 3 years ago
And quoting the bible does what? Unless you can show it is relevant to this argument you are just wasting space.
Christians can accept evolution because it is science. Nothing about evolution questions the existents of god unless you make it.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
Evolution is a concept from ONE MAN'S MIND. Why should I accept a man's idea when God has told us specifically how he created it and in what order He did it? YOU ARE CORRECT! "Nothing about evolution questions the existence of god". Evolution IS HOWEVER, not what God has told us so why go through life with a misconception.
bornagain001 3 years ago
No, evolution is the change in allele in a population over time. We have observed this. Therefore, it is not a concept from one mans mind. The reason you should accept evolution is for the same reason you accept gravity and cell theory. They are all testable and falsifiable. Second, a story in a book is not telling us how a god created anything. It just says he did, not how he did it. Gravity and cell theory are not what a god told us also yet I bet you have no problem with them.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
"evolution is the change in allele in a population over time. We have observed this."
Has ANYONE OBSERVED one species evolving into another species...say a fish evolving into a reptile or a monkey evolving into a man? I just need one person's name who has observed this.
bornagain001 3 years ago
Yes, we have seen speciation. I have a link to a site that lists observed speciation events in my video entitled "Evolution: Good Science".
"...say a fish evolving into a reptile or a monkey evolving into a man?" That is a straw man. No one claims that fish are evolving into reptiles or monkeys into men. Nevertheless, species have been observed changing into new ones.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
"Has ANYONE OBSERVED one species evolving into another species" It's alway the same question from all the Creationists, Do your own study and maybe you will learn something. But I doubt it.
alliancesigns 3 years ago
"It's alway the same question from all the Creationists, Do your own study and maybe you will learn something."
I took UNIVERSITY level Biology and Chemistry. SATAN uses the WEAK MINDED to confuse and deceive.
bornagain001 3 years ago
"I took UNIVERSITY level Biology and Chemistry"
and you still believed in creation. Like I say I doubted you will ever learn anything because of you mind set. No amount of evidences gonna change your mind, so why are you keep watching these video. Stop spreading you ignorances.
alliancesigns 3 years ago 2
"so why are you keep watching these video. Stop spreading you ignorances."
Because people like you need JESUS too!
bornagain001 3 years ago
No I don't need your Jesus or your version of God. Don't assumed you know what we need don't be too arrogant.
alliancesigns 3 years ago
"Jesus said to him, I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH and THE LIFE; NO MAN comes to the Father, but BY ME." John 14:6
You have been given FREE WILL to live your life without CHRIST. Unfortunately, we are not able to choose the consequences of the bad decisions we make in this lifetime which will affect our eternity.
bornagain001 3 years ago
Noone gave me anything. Humans have been around for a very short time compared to how long the Earth has been around. The claim in the Bible that all animals were created at the same time is 100 percent false. Taking the Bible literally is basically like disbelieving in science.
kevinnorthwestern 3 years ago
"Taking the Bible literally is basically like disbelieving in science."
1 Corinthians 1:18-19
bornagain001 3 years ago
? Yes take a passage from the bible to prove the validity of the Bible. That always works. You can believe in this foolishness as much as you want, but I recently found the way of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. There is no evidence of his existence you say? Well isn't it obvious that he gave us the gift of pasta (which is high in carbohydrates) as a way to feel the energy of his Being? Not convinced? Well then that's ok you'll just spend eternity in agony. All hail his noodly appendages. Ramen.
kevinnorthwestern 3 years ago
YOU WILL DIE. There is no debating that. You joke about God now but 5 minutes after you die, the Flying Spaghetti Monster will not seem as funny. You will spend eternity separated from your family, friends, pets, hobbies. My suggestion is that you take DEATH as seriously as you do your life. JOHN 3:16
bornagain001 3 years ago
Yea I will die, but you know what, I am going to enjoy life. That means I'm not going to spend my time adhering to nonsense. The flying spaghetti monster is so funny because it is exactly what you believe, but instead of a flying spaghetti its a God that looks like man. I find it hysterical that you believe in heaven and hell when humans have been on the planet for such a small amount of time. As if God would make his chosen people a couple billion years after he made the universe.
kevinnorthwestern 3 years ago
"Yea I will die, but you know what, I am going to enjoy life"
As if Christians don't enjoy life. We date, marry, have kids, go to baseball games, buy homes, go on vacations. We do ALL the same things you do EXCEPT...we are ready if it should end for us today...YOU ARE NOT.
bornagain001 3 years ago
Thank you for telling me if I am "ready if it should end for [me] today". You know what, that totally makes sense...not. I do not believe in the bullshit you preach yet you still think that it applies to me. I enjoy life more than you ever can because I do not fear any potential consequences in the after life. I abide by the law, but I live my life the way I want to, not how some "God" wants me to.
kevinnorthwestern 3 years ago
The president of IRAN does not believe in the HOLOCAUST. Does his UNBELIEF make him correct.
Does your unbelief make you correct.
God tells us that we will all (including the murderer of Jon Benet Ramsey, Natalie Holloway, Jimmy Hoffa, Tupac Shakur, Jam Master Jay, Adam Walsh, Chandra Levy, Maddie McCann, Sam Giancana, Ronald Goldman, Nicole Brown Simpson) will ALL be held accountable. YOU TOO will account for every thing you have stolen and every lie you have told.
bornagain001 3 years ago
In the same way does your belief make You correct. I don't think I will account for anything (why do you assume that I steal and lie).The difference between the president of Iran's disbelief and mine is that their is extensive evidence that the Holocaust occurred. There is no evidence of a God, or if there is, no evidence that its your God.
kevinnorthwestern 3 years ago 3
@kevinnorthwestern Like you have just pointed out, there is a process to faith in God. And not faith in any God but faith in the God. First its discovering that God does exist and deciding to search for Him and discover who He is. This involves prayer, studying, research ect. Faith begins to build as you discover truths about God by using common sense, reason, and rational thought. There is evidence for God but you have to have eyes to see and ears to hear. I would be happy to discuss.
ParadigmShifter27 9 months ago
"Nothing about evolution questions the existents of god unless you make it."
"In the beginning, God CREATED." It does not say it evolved. As a matter of fact, God's Word goes on to say how long it took Him and in what order He created everything. Evolution is diametrically opposite of what God's Word says.
bornagain001 3 years ago
You do realize that humans wrote the bible. Humans are flawed. In addition, it says god created, it does not say how he created. Have you read the bible in the original Hebrew? Do you know that a day in Hebrew does not have many different meanings?
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
"Do you know that a day in Hebrew does not have many different meanings?"
REALLY? Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what a day means in Hebrew other than a 24 hour period.
bornagain001 3 years ago
Go to Kabanethechristians channel. He has made videos about this issue. I would not know because I do not study the bible.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
OH...I thought since YOU MADE THE CLAIM, you knew what you were talking about.
bornagain001 3 years ago
You have made many claims and it is apparent that you do not know what you are talking about.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
Good stuff! Keep it up. :)
Gnug215 3 years ago
Discover magazine last year - Miller also froze samples for over 25 years (another early-earth hypothesis what with polar ice caps and all) and when thawed out, had organic compounds. Amazing! Too bad he didn't live to see all of his samples thawed out.
aChangeOFideas 3 years ago
this is an excellent video, kudos :)
SurferRosa79 3 years ago
Well done and way to cite your sources which is more than can be said for most creationists
Hochemon2008 3 years ago
Good job Jebus6kryst. You really put them on their spot with a quick review of all the arguments, I have found that list a few times but the first time I saw the list was in the video of Extantdodo on video . google where they refute all the claims made by the Discovery institute about these 'icons of evolution'.
It is a long sit but it is very informative:
tinyurl . com / 3rpajl
Terrencje 3 years ago
Amazing, in less than 6 minutes you debunk all of Strobel's Case for the Creator!
Ryan44567 3 years ago 2
Very good!
I see the 10 points you hit on over and over on the Internets.
I think the most frustrating one is creationists complete misunderstanding of what a theory is in the realm of science. And how evolution is both a fact and theory.
Anytime I get in a debate and this comes up, I just ask why gravity is called a theory. Usually all I get back is silence.
There is no way to get any further with these cultists if they can't even understand what a theory is!
pandstar 3 years ago 2
the miller urey experiment was actually performed multiple times after millers death by others...with updated compounds and they were successfull
also
The ediacara as well as pro and eukaryotes predate the explosion anyway
good video 5 star
thecommonsenseguy 3 years ago