Saab 9-5 Aero (Turbo) Extreme - Born From Jets

[Daumex]

Turn of that crappy music next time so we can hear the engine...

[chevyrules3]

is the turbo supposed to go into the red? if so, why does mine just go to the red?

[bigace511]

for a stock motor, stock turbo. naaasty fast

[dan2e2]

So what power is this kicking out? It does seem quicker than my stage1 lpt, video attached... love these motors... ps. dont fancy being the camera man in the last shot., eeek.

[evolender]

FAIL

[titogcuban]

o yeah

[ultimatepimpinsti]

I bought a saab 9-5 and it blew up the next day so not too reliable. The turbos go after 100,000miles and they have sludging problems. I think they are shit up to 2002 but nice in other ways and has good pefomance and a nice inteior and they look prity cool too.

[blogger88]

@ultimatepimpinsti NO SLUDGE problem if you use FULLY SYNTHETIC OIL.

Turbo can last 300,000kms no problems.

[spinacznyc]

@ultimatepimpinsti turbo engines needs warm up to ensure long life and to avoid sludge problems

[Azureecosse]

I see Saab 95's as old mens cars, having driven quite a few (Company cars not by choice) they are soggy and dull to drive with bland interiors. Observers are conned by the swedish exclusivety of them, this is an illusion dont be fooled. If you do decide to drive em fast make sure you got plenty of dosh , they are thirsty and dont thank you for being abused. My employer stopped leasing these cars in 2006 as breakdowns were ridiculous. We switched to Accords now they are far superior.

[MrTR500]

@Azureecosse

Don't listen to azuree my friends. He prefers a Honda to a saab XD XD XD

[Azureecosse]

@MrTR500 Correct ! you got that spot on, if i were spending my own money i would buy a Honda every time, not because i am loyal to the brand but because Hondas are reliable, i dont give a stuff about badge snobbery. If I am talking rubbish how come 19 fleet cars (saab 95') all had issues of one sort or another. These cars were also maintained by Saab dealerships enough said. You speak to any fleet manager in the UK they will probably agree. I am only stating from experience.

[MrTR500]

@Azureecosse

My Dad drives a 2005 Saab 9-5 aero 250bhp. Zero problems since he bought it in 2006. I hear nothing but praise for the 9-5s reliability. Go to parkers.co.uk. In their words "saabs rarely go wrong" I think i'll take their opinion over yours.

Honda might be reliable, but any real car lover does not buy a car for reliability.

Hell i currently drive a 99 megane. You'd think being french it would be breaking down every journey? Nope solid!

Only paid £900 for it.

[Azureecosse]

@MrTR500 I am happy for you, your Dad and your 99 Megane. Happy driving my friend.

[MrTR500]

@Azureecosse

Was that sarcasm? Sorry, it's just that it's hard to detect over the interweb :P

[hootblah]

any mods or tunes?

[SacreDro]

What year is that 9-5?

[capitalistpigdogus]

@SacreDro Appears to be 98-01.

[MacRyhage]

Hahahahaha, that is just too slow!

[aeronero]

awesome car!

i've 9-5 linear 2002

[justsomeguy728]

its not really fast, but then i do love the saabs.

[Woodlings2]

Nice car, i love swedish rockets. Ever considered drag racing a volvo 850R or

S60R.

[wedziss]

is there an 850R? ??

[Woodlings2]

Yes, google it. Very fast, in fact there is a video on here of it on the autobahn, first it kicks an M3s arse and then shows it driving up to about 280kmh! must watch

[Woodlings2]

but its is heavily modified i must admit

[hjalmeeen1]

yeah and im sure it MUTCH safer also`?...

[Bluterus]

@hjalmeeen1 LOL not at all my dad had a 1993 9000 CS that got 3 hits in the rear end where the other cars were written off and it still had the original rear bumper.

My XR8 took a hit in the rear at 40km/h and I had to replace the whole tub.

Saabs are very safe and are great value for money when purchasing one a couple of years old. They're great and comfy to drive but they aren't really what I would call a performance car.

Since GM has owned them they haven't really done anything with saabs.

[hjalmeeen1]

i was ironik...

[Bluterus]

@hjalmeeen1 I know and I was agreeing with you just cause I said my car would smash this it didn't mean I said it was better in every other aspect.

[richandnik]

Faster than a 911 40-70..........Last time I looked a 911 was a performance car?I bet your ute cannot boast the same? Probably down to its not so very revvy engine and huge kerb weight..........

[quwers]

That's what Clarkson tells us off Top Gear and yet the 95 won't do 70 in 2nd, only about 65.

[rarelibra]

@richandnik Actually faster than 911 from 70 to 110.

[rkjer]

@rarelibra Wrong.. It's faster than a 1992 911 40-70

[dethpig420]

@Bluterus yup. Saab is crap.

[saab16guy]

i talk to people saying how fast saabs are they dont belive me but here it is

[StephanMoyes]

This thing is fast, I just borrowed me dads for a week, and me thinks he will recieve a speeding fine, the police had the "big blue" gun on me for a around 600 metres, before and after ... This car is like giving a commercial pilot a fighter-jet and tell him to go "slow" ... that just wouldnea happen .. Its faster than a 911 Turbo from 60 -110 ..... Ive handed it back before I get a driving ban ;-)

[Splaunt]

I had a Saab 9-5 HOT Aero (230bhp version) and miss the great turbo-acceleration between 40mph and about 110mph, which I'm sure was quicker than the car I traded it for (BMW 540i sport 6-speed manual, 4.4l engine, 286bhp). BMW better car (just) but Saab designed for real-world acceleration, and will keep up with just about anything to around 100mph. How often does anyone go above that sort of speed nowadays with all the speed-traps around? Handling a bit under-steery, but decent and safe.

[manny2k10]

proud saab owner! even tho they can be a pain in the ass sometimes. i got a 99 9-5 lpt. which is the non - aero, i love my saab i actually heard its more tuner friendly compared to the aero

[simblack72]

awesome! really fast

i'm thinking of buying a saab 9-5 but find the line up really confusing. they have so many different 2.3 turbos, some producing about 185 hp and others about 250 (HOT aero???), i'm sure ill end up buying something wrong.

im after a HOT aero but i think some are 230hp and some 250hp... confusing.

[thelivingdodo]

to confuse you even more I have an 9-5 Aero (230) and had it rolling roaded a few weeks ago and it was producing 249.1 bho stock!

[jrodigan5]

Awesome car! SAAB rules! I have a 9-5 as well, only mine is an Arc. A step down from this.

[Saab93V3ctor]

Saabs rule, Flawmore is an idiot, no SS has 150hp. My 9-3 Vector has 260 hp :).

[flawmore]

Did you misunderstand me? My comment was not against Saabs in any way. All I said was that most people can't tell a stock Saab from a tuned one just by looking at it. And there are plenty of Saabs with 150 or less hp. I didn't say which Saab I meant, did I? Saab93V3ctor, the internet flamer -_-

[traul1234]

just bought one of these 95 hirsch making 300hp :)

[YS3Caero]

1:20 to 1:38.... Is so nice to do this!!

[arnkvist]

Buy SAAB!

SAAB have to survive!

[etete75]

It will survive!

[FryChicken]

The swedish government is holding off b/c if it does buy Saab, then it will end up w/a bunch of contractual agreements w/GM that will continue to cripple Saab.

If they let Saab go bankrupt, and then buy, Saab will once again be allowed to blossom.

[flawmore]

That's the beauty of it. You'll never see the tuned 400hp SAAB coming since it could be a 150hp stock :)

Btw, "good of spent"? "could have spent"?

[Apoth3cary]

yea haha. Saabs are just cheap looking, they look wanna be luxury cars, and build quality....is like a 1979 Ford Pinto.

[Corym67]

Cheap looking, are you kidding me? What do you drive? Have you ever been in either a saab or a mustang? stop getting your info from your dad idiot.

[erikminck]

your mom is cheap looking...stick to what you know, like shitty ass fords

[Apoth3cary]

I dont have a shitty ass ford, I have a Scion tC

[tomohawkket]

what sort of mpg do u get when u floor these? bout 3mpg lol

[philaphan20]

I agree with andy, I'm on my third and learned some valuable lessons on maintenance etc the hard way..saab central is the place to go, there are some really dedicated saab folks out there & that site is where it's at.

[SHEGOTADONKKK]

I might be buying a 2003 saab 9-5, cany anyone tell me if it is gonna be a bitch to repair, and if it is very unrealible?? cause i heard the realiblty on it sucks ass, but i still want it.

[andy28277]

Go to saabcentral d-ot c-om and ask your question. If you do the PCV update and ALL regular maintanence you should be fine, and it is an easy DIY car with inexpensive parts on the internet. stay away from stealerships for repairs. Get a good Saab indie or DIY.

[flawmore]

The newer versions have had some engine problems, but those should be out of the world by now. SAABs are generally realiable cars with mid-low end priced parts.

[merqury5]

@SHEGOTADONKKK The cars are regarded as very solid here in norway and sweden where we have as much of them as there are BMW's in germany. Thet are used by the police as highway patrol cars and regarded by them as very very stable cars that can take a trashing! Good luck, I want one also!

[Captain88T]

@SHEGOTADONKKK check out saabnet.com and look up saab classifieds. Lots of good cars on there. I have 3 saabs in the family 94' 9000 cse, 03' 95 arc, 09' 95 aero.

[Uglyducksgethot]

@SHEGOTADONKKK I owna 2003 Saab 9-5 Aero, cosmic blue exterior tan interior, 5 speed. This was my first saab purchase. I was hesitant at first but have not paid for repairs beyond tires, and oil changes since purchasing the car 15K miles ago. very powerful c ar, LOVES to exceed 110mph and will very easily hit the legal speed limit. Extremely safe vehicle also. only downside... not made in an AWD version. recommend this car

[frherbst3]

@SHEGOTADONKKK - I have a 2002 Saab 9-5. It is my fourth Saab and the most satisfying. Super reliable and cheaper to repair than a BMW or Mercedes.

[23danb]

@SHEGOTADONKKK

hi. No, i own a saab, lol, and do u know how many repairs i have done??? well, ur right. NONE>!! And its like a bullet!

[auntimame]

nice....! I have a 95 that sits about 347 bhp with about 500 mn torque. Tuned by Ranald at Roseisle Cars. Its up for sale if anyone is interested?/

[itunesaabs]

you should definetely make a vid of your car. it sound fugin badass!

[grizlywold]

interested in your car auntimame - can you let me have a contact number/address.

Car details (year/estate or saloon, colour, photos etc ) how much do you want for it . . .

[itunesaabs]

yeah 18k is asking for a problem. your oil would be so dirty by then. haha i do mine every 3K. atleast in 04 the sludge problem was truely fixed.

[dan2e2]

How was it fixed... with the introduction of the Trionic 8 ? Or a redesign of existing Tri7?

[dan2e2]

You probably know more about the subject than me but

If the GT-17 is fitted to the B205L then yes that one - but it died due to sludge caused by a bad engine layout imo. As previously stated, the sump gets boiled by the exhaust - having the pickup screen and sump flushed at 25k and 50k should have solved this problem...

I seriously doubt the 'stronger' Aero / Viggen turbos would've stood up to basic oil starvation.

[itunesaabs]

yeah you had the gt-17. your right oil starvation would f**k any turbo really.lol im just saying that it was prolly near death anyway and the oil starvation just finished it off. did you ever do the pcv update? just curious. but yeah if you dropped the sump, used full synthetic oil every 3-5k, and used the proper oil filter, then you shouldn't have had oil starvation problems. sorry to hear if did though.

[dan2e2]

Yeah, I had the breather and oil trap mod thingee done quite earlier, though as you say the turbo could have been weakened.

If I'm honest Oil changes every 5-10k, averagely around 8k I'd say. Always Full syn - not excessive by any stretch.... have you seen the ridiculous service intervals on the new models!?

18k between oil changes!

This whole oil sludge thing is not just Saab either: it's a problem across all manufacturers and these extended service intervals aren't going to help.

[saab16guy]

saab the best amazing power

[xxdonatelloxx]

i like the tach on the 9-5

[Kenski89]

put wings on this mf and it would take off^^ nice :)

[ZACKdaZEBRA]

SAAB for life!!!

[NATEMAN360]

agreed :)

[scholion]

I'm a Volvo owner, but admit to be slightly impressed by this SAAB.

[romneyrd]

Had SAAbs all my life but my 2000 reg 95 blew a turbo after 40k, it had only done short runs and had oil starvation problems to the turo.

If you buy a 95 check for blue smoke as its a costly repair other than that my 95 eats BMWs and boy racers lokks like a old mans car goes like a 911.

[missingremote]

I was looking into a purchase. How do I see the blue smoke? What causes blue oil smoke?

How was your starvation problem to the turbo created THANKS.

[mviaya]

SAABS FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!

[dan2e2]

Until they clog with sludge and die

[neptho]

Someone's bitter about a car they've never owned.

[itunesaabs]

its very easy to prevent sludge with proper maintence...

[dan2e2]

Hmm, oil change every 5k

Sump cleaned and flushed every 25k (expensive)

Still blew turbo at 75k, due to oil starvation.

Trionic 7 is a bad design, sump too close to cat; cooks oil, especially on frequent short journeys.

[dan2e2]

Luckily under extended warranty and was covered, 2k bill otherwise.

Great cars, seriously underestimated but GM (Vauxhall's) input has made a great car mediocre.

[itunesaabs]

how is trionic 7 a bad design? its a very complex impressive ecu. what turbo do you have? if it was the gt-17 then having it blow around 75K is not uncommon at all. their weak little turbos that rarely make it past 100k...

did you ever get pcv update #6?

[manny2k10]

saab 4 life bro!!

[nico74321]

SAAB FOR LIFE!!

[Wannabe000]

SAAB for Life!!!

[dizzytechman]

Nice NIN Song choose. Saabs for life

[DRIVEBYRACHKO]

AMEN!

[laoishibee]

haha you sure thats not the rev gauge!!

[andy28277]

The tachometer (revolutions per minute - RPMs), or as you put it as the "rev gauge" is on the left and turbo boost gauge (which says "turbo" below it) is on the right. A boost gauge is a pressure gauge that indicates turbocharger pressure.

[andy28277]

Turbochargers are engine driven air compressors (exhaust driven to be exact) and provide varying levels of boost according to engine rpm, load etc. Quite often there is a power band within a given range of available boost pressure and it is an aid to performance driving to be aware of when that power band is being approached, in the same way a driver wants to be aware of engine rpm.

[andy28277]

Now perhaps you are saying the speedometer is going so fast it looks like a rev gauge ;-)

[laoishibee]

haha yes its f$£king quick!

at least you know your stuff!

[wellerrulsz67]

wrong they are driven by exhaust gasses. a super charger is driven by the engine

[IllusionInfusion]

@andy28277 You should be careful when you say, "engine driven." Technically a super charger is engine driven as it runs off a belt (or chain) off the engine where a turbo is technically "exhaust driven" because it uses the exhaust gasses from the engine to spin the turbine to force air through.

[bossadave]

Saabs are mad, have a 9-5 and the boost is like nicotine. But we are well due a new model it feels like an antique compared with an Jag XF

[dan2e2]

I have a remapped 9-3 with some bits at 260bhp and boost is indeed extremely addictive, the only way is up from here... oh dear :)

[erelcse19]

beautiful man, 9-5 aeros for life

[Kratos2591]

this thing is a beast!!!

[naireland]

is that the stock turbo, I could barely see any turbo lag on the boost gauge, just a constant redline

[andy28277]

The boost gauge is upper right - you can see the turbo boost going from white to red when shifting or taking the foot off the gas. Not much turbo lag on the 9-5 at all, though. You can also see the tach on the left is not always redline upon shifts or just hitting the gas.

[kicsirepi46]

I'm thinking of buy one of these.What is your opinion how reliable are these cars? Especially the Saab 9-5 Aero.What's your experience with yours?

[andy28277]

'04 and above is very reliable, though I'm not big on the '06 facelift. Pre-'04 you should have all service records with full synthetic oil changes as sludge is a concern, but you can easily solve that issue by updating to the PCV#6 for about $200 and dropping the sump. The Aero has a stronger turbo that will not fail on you, unlike the non-Aero 9-5's. Otherwise, wear and tear parts are expensive as BMW and Benz, but Saab is an easy DIY car with inexpensive after market parts all over the web.

[kicsirepi46]

Thanks a lot mate,that was very usefeul I really appreciate it.

[YiMMA2k5]

yeah saabs are underestimated yesterday i drove my friends 95 2.3t car flies from 60 to 120 in a heartbeat these cars can fly

[bedcap]

i love these cars cuz everyone underestimates them then they are left in shock

[Terren831]

dude my 86 9000 turbo shocks the hell out of people. its sick.

[arnevolders]

@bedcap haha no they usually are on the right in shock when i pass them with my aero ;p

2006 saab 95 aero 260 HP manual gearbox

[hirschperformance93]

they are rapid :)

i have a 9.3 Turbo with 250 BHP and FULL Hirsch Performance Modifications. The mid range is immence:) hopefully get some videos on soon :P

[judgementdey]

40-70 quicker than a 996 911 turbo

[jakep2007]

i like the speedo in this car better then in my 900... lol

[Noxidee]

Aero produces peak torque at 1900 rpm

[tophermonkey]

yeah man thats the shit lol. my dad has a 2000reg 2.3lpt se. took it to abbott racing about a month ago got an ecu upgrade hybrid turbo higher boost setting dump valve and sport exhaust its now rated at about 255 horsepower. same power as aero but it delivers FULL tourque at 2000rpm its insane at low revs beat the shit out of an aero anyday raced fucking evo's on bypass up to 145 just like that lol. and its all with heated and cooled leather seat and a smooth ride which can 5 peeps and a dog.

[ryaneirich]

like noxidee said, the 9-5 Aero's have a flat torque curve from ~1900 rpm up to about 4200 if I remember correctly.

[Viesor]

we had a ssab 9-5 aero for a few months

we bought a new car, 93 vector and 93 turbo. love saab =)

[AudiROCKS]

this is mph right?

[andy28277]

Right - mph

[AudiROCKS]

Ur saab is damn fast, it beats our old 9-5 2002 3.0TiD, now we have a 93 2005 2.0T

[turkum99]

THIS VIDEO IS SOOO-oooo TRUE, I LOVE MY 9-5, BOY IS IT SMOOTH! just wise it had more cup holders, hahahhaa

[oxygeninc]

MapTun software rules

[tsatsev]

saab move your mind

[andy28277]

Red 9-5 at the end is Nordic steg 1

[Soulfirer]

MAPTUN stage 5, nothing to do with Hirsch this one.

:)