I definitely like Tomi better, then again, I love deeper vocals more.
Not so much a fan of this guy's voice (or anything similar) - and I absolutely hate the more higher pitched vocals (Theater, Priest, Maiden). Absolutely intolerable.
Whether Pasi sucked live or not, he was easily the better studio vocalist. The new guy just sounds cheesy to me. Musically, they still sound great. But his vocals ruin the songs for me. Pasi's clean vocals were great. They added a certain atmosphere to their music. Tomi should just stick to the growls.
@juanriff yeah, Pasi had to go for sure. they went as far as they could go with him, but i just have mixed feelings about the new singer, and i didn't ever feel that way about Pasi.
If you are talking about Koskinen, then I dont know where did you get that from. Koskinen CAN SING, clean vocals too. And he does great job with Ajattara, even live. But well, I have heard the old Amorphis didnt work too well togeather... But Pasi Koskinen is still the best singer of those 3. But yeah, thats just my opinion.
My sources are VERY reliable. It is a fact that his vocals on the albums were cut and paste and full of effects and harmonizers. I am the biggest Amorphis fan but even i admit he is rubbish live. He cannot do clean vocals live. Never has been able to. Never will. I love the album music. Live= garbage. New singer is a million times better then Pasi. He can sing. He can scream. Just overall a much better vocalist.
Its true that his vocals were mixed, like everything else nowdays, but if you have seen Ajattara live even once, you know he can sing, clean vocals too. I see we have a disagreement here, but its allright, I just love his vocals. And dont get me started about the new singer... He can sing, yes. But hes just ordinary rock singer you can hear everywhere. Now theres nothing special about Amorphis, theyre just like all the other bands. Old Amorphis was so much better. Have a nice day though.
I have! He really didn't sound that good live. I know people (will not name names) and they say that the reason he doesn't play with them anymore is he couldn't produce the same sound live and he cut and pasted his vocals on chorus parts and used harmonizers to "clean up" the rough sounds. His last album with Amorphis is all blatantly obvious he was doing that. I say again, my favorite album is AM Universum and i will always love ALL Amorphis songs.
I do think his vocals are very unique and i do love them ON THE ALBUMS, just not live. I also don't like Tomi singing most of the old Amorphis songs because i think they sound best with Pasi singing them
Well, Im not questioning wether you like old Amorphis. :) But yeah, I saw new Amorphis live 2 years ago and hearing Goddes (Of The Sad Man) sung by Tomi Joutsen... I just wanted to cry . It was nothing like the original. But Ive also saw Koskinen live and he did sing extremely well. I guess we just have different opinions here. And btw AM Universum is my favourite too. I remember I bought it when I was 12 or so and it was so magical, I just loved it from the first hearing. Well, I still do.
Tuonela is the realm of the dead or the Underworld in Finnish mythology, similar to Hades in Greek mythology. Tuonela, Tuoni, Manala and Mana are often used synonymously (c) wikipedia ;)
Yeah, haha one of the reasons why "Son's Thoughts" is such a good song... man, Spirits and August Light is such a good album! (Omnium Gatherum before got kinda boring)
This is fucking awesome, I wish Amorphis still did this kind of music.. Ok, the new stuff isnt bad, but this is just so special... These melodies touch heart in a different way, hail old Amorphis, hail Koskinen! \m/
yaa arkadaslar sacmalmayın lütfen neden pki bu şekilde calınmıs bissürü şarkı var ? gitarda -gam- die bişy vardır bilmediiniz için yok arak cart curt diosunuz sarkılar aynı gamdan calındıgında arakmı olucak pop müzik deilbu hatırlatıyım..meselaa ari barokas da bass gitar riff'leri yazıo onun riflerini kullanan baska bi bassgitarist arak mıyapmıs olcak.. hayır..
puhahahahah..daha naapcaklar adamlar calmak icin, isimlerinde amorphis ve otesi mi yapcaklar, almislar ayni melodiyi dunyanin parasina konmuslar, bal gibi kopya iste.. zaten o solist te tam bir bono kopyasi tavirlarla dolasio, thom yorke a ozeniyim falan yapio ama nerdee koduum benzemeyi bile beceremez o..
gerizekalı bilip bilmeden konusuyosn..aynı gamdan calınmıs bi sarkı diyorum birbirine benziyen cok gam vardır.. duman grubuylada pearl jam grubunun tarzı nerdeyse aynı dumanda pearl jam emi özeniyo gerizekalısın bilip bilmeden konusuyosun
arkadaşlar dikkatlice dinledim çalıntı ile alakası yok ne ritim ne ne hız olarak kesinlikle çalıntı değil, sadece duyabildiğimiz ince gitar sesleri benziyor ama %100 çalıntı değil
Does anyone know what the lyrics of this song mean?
I've been wondering about this and offcourse came up with my own interpretation but can't find anywhere wheter I'm correct (or even close) :(
Moonmicrobe 5 days ago
Best album from Amorphis!!!
kwstras7 2 months ago
I definitely like Tomi better, then again, I love deeper vocals more.
Not so much a fan of this guy's voice (or anything similar) - and I absolutely hate the more higher pitched vocals (Theater, Priest, Maiden). Absolutely intolerable.
taxi911 4 months ago
mor ve ötesi - bir derdim var :))
ozturk525 4 months ago
I Elladaraaa agapaei Amorphis!!! Greece Loves Amorphis!!
ElricMeln1 7 months ago 5
@ElricMeln1 Mazi sou filos!
DarkReaperRedeemer 3 months ago 2
@ElricMeln1 Mazi sou filara!!!!
CypRaider 2 days ago
Cool song, love the delay with a little distortion. I thought I was a fool for spending long hours fooling with it.
capsuleboy 11 months ago
pasi voice was the spirit of old Amorphis..
marckochz 11 months ago
Whether Pasi sucked live or not, he was easily the better studio vocalist. The new guy just sounds cheesy to me. Musically, they still sound great. But his vocals ruin the songs for me. Pasi's clean vocals were great. They added a certain atmosphere to their music. Tomi should just stick to the growls.
amorphis 1 year ago 3
awesome song but a little heavy on the moog....
belial713 1 year ago
Tuonela is like Dead's place in Estonia. xD
MariHeleen 1 year ago
the 'new' singer is corny IMO. he over emotes and has much less range than he is given credit for. Pasi was more subtle i think
lamentate07 1 year ago
@lamentate07 but Pasi was bad singing in live shows just check his versions of black winter day or summer's end he messed up both....
juanriff 1 year ago
@juanriff yeah, Pasi had to go for sure. they went as far as they could go with him, but i just have mixed feelings about the new singer, and i didn't ever feel that way about Pasi.
lamentate07 1 year ago
Hate to say it but old singer = cannot sing clean
Have loved Amorphis since a child love em not a hater at all, just an informer
Longerbeard 2 years ago
YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT
vomitmeda 2 years ago
I am from Vietnam and heard this album in 1999. Ha ha ha. Love it much
anhkhoab 2 years ago
great quality upoad
awesome track
IAINoodle 2 years ago
I don't understand why they changed singer :-(
kamotu1 2 years ago 2
Because he cannot sing live. All the album work was cut & paste and full of effects. I love the old stuff but the old singer is horrible live.
BlightedJosh 2 years ago
If you are talking about Koskinen, then I dont know where did you get that from. Koskinen CAN SING, clean vocals too. And he does great job with Ajattara, even live. But well, I have heard the old Amorphis didnt work too well togeather... But Pasi Koskinen is still the best singer of those 3. But yeah, thats just my opinion.
Suholaani 2 years ago
My sources are VERY reliable. It is a fact that his vocals on the albums were cut and paste and full of effects and harmonizers. I am the biggest Amorphis fan but even i admit he is rubbish live. He cannot do clean vocals live. Never has been able to. Never will. I love the album music. Live= garbage. New singer is a million times better then Pasi. He can sing. He can scream. Just overall a much better vocalist.
BlightedJosh 2 years ago
Its true that his vocals were mixed, like everything else nowdays, but if you have seen Ajattara live even once, you know he can sing, clean vocals too. I see we have a disagreement here, but its allright, I just love his vocals. And dont get me started about the new singer... He can sing, yes. But hes just ordinary rock singer you can hear everywhere. Now theres nothing special about Amorphis, theyre just like all the other bands. Old Amorphis was so much better. Have a nice day though.
Suholaani 2 years ago 4
I love Pasi's vocals on the albums. I just think they aren't good live. And i have never edited or cut & pasted my vocals ;)
BlightedJosh 2 years ago
Ohh? :D
But have you seen him live?
Suholaani 2 years ago
I have! He really didn't sound that good live. I know people (will not name names) and they say that the reason he doesn't play with them anymore is he couldn't produce the same sound live and he cut and pasted his vocals on chorus parts and used harmonizers to "clean up" the rough sounds. His last album with Amorphis is all blatantly obvious he was doing that. I say again, my favorite album is AM Universum and i will always love ALL Amorphis songs.
BlightedJosh 2 years ago
I do think his vocals are very unique and i do love them ON THE ALBUMS, just not live. I also don't like Tomi singing most of the old Amorphis songs because i think they sound best with Pasi singing them
BlightedJosh 2 years ago
Well, Im not questioning wether you like old Amorphis. :) But yeah, I saw new Amorphis live 2 years ago and hearing Goddes (Of The Sad Man) sung by Tomi Joutsen... I just wanted to cry . It was nothing like the original. But Ive also saw Koskinen live and he did sing extremely well. I guess we just have different opinions here. And btw AM Universum is my favourite too. I remember I bought it when I was 12 or so and it was so magical, I just loved it from the first hearing. Well, I still do.
Suholaani 2 years ago
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ruichicau78 2 years ago
lol i think it's sad people don't realize the difficulties that vocalist have and speaking the truth as you have gets you a down rating.
+1 for knowing the reality of musicianship man
Kilshot666 2 years ago
ive uploaded all the songs from their new album Skyforger, check 'em out ppl :)
Amorphis is awesome!
nadxxm 2 years ago 2
amazing intro
avengerk2 2 years ago
this really takes me back. awesome song
Pantiesonmyhead 2 years ago 5
the solo gave me goosebumps!!
arsenalles 2 years ago 3
i know! man i wish there more songs like these.
zibeddy 2 years ago 2
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Why the didnt change the name of the band when they decided to become homosexuals ?
LeftHandedJay 3 years ago
tuonela - herb grow at the underworld..
even on cover of album is paint petal of tuonela
aldadadada 3 years ago
Tuonela is the "underworld" in finnish mythology, it's not a punishment,but it's a place to rest in peace!
LeChevalierNoir 2 years ago 4
Great song!!
DarthCoors 3 years ago 2
Yep. Jonttu212 is right.
Arathis452 3 years ago
No, Tuonela is just a place to go when youre dead. But its not a punishment, just a place where you can sleep for eternity.
Suholaani 3 years ago 15
@Suholaani
Isn't it the Underworld?
thePENANCE 1 year ago
good song
bizzybozzy1 3 years ago 3
please someone from Finnland tell me what tuonela means :)
sigmundklaus 3 years ago
Well.... I'm not from Finland but i know the meaning! ;)
Tuonela means hades or the underworld.
Cheers. \m/
xXsentencedXx 3 years ago 2
Tuonela is the realm of the dead or the Underworld in Finnish mythology, similar to Hades in Greek mythology. Tuonela, Tuoni, Manala and Mana are often used synonymously (c) wikipedia ;)
LeChevalierNoir 3 years ago 2
Great song
hira15 3 years ago
Great intro!!!!! love it!
Fallen4eva 3 years ago
the devil has shown my the way
ratbatblue555 3 years ago
sounds like
"Son's Thoughts"
by Omnium Gatherum
xXxBorknagarxXx 3 years ago 2
Totally! I am glad I am not the one who noticed that.
thetrueBiskui 2 years ago
"Son's Thoughts"
sounds like "The way"
by Amorphis
(the melody)
LeChevalierNoir 2 years ago
Yeah, haha one of the reasons why "Son's Thoughts" is such a good song... man, Spirits and August Light is such a good album! (Omnium Gatherum before got kinda boring)
krustster 2 years ago
yes it does...
taxi911 2 years ago
incredible song! i still remember the first time i listened to it... tuonela is in my top 10 albums ever!
zephyrous7 3 years ago 2
That riff is a masterpiece itself.
RamonCusters 3 years ago 3
They went more industrial with the newer albums xD
VampiricSpektor 3 years ago
T U O N E L A.
ratbatblue555 3 years ago 9
@ratbatblue555
Does anyone else get reminded of Nutella when they look at the name of this album?
taxi911 4 months ago
I have this album it's great!
fa272 3 years ago 3
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What the FUCK is this GAY shit?!This is not the Amorphis that i use 2 know...!
givingheadtothedead 3 years ago
They've been developed ( degenerated ) since the golden Karelian Isthmus and Tales from the thousand lakes times.
XysmicExecration 3 years ago 4
i ve been listenning to this song in the past a lot.... my favorite song of amorphis! bu arada mor ve otesi ne alaka abi nerden cikti :d
ozan16 3 years ago
I miss Pasi!
Amorfischo 3 years ago 3
lol
no video and such a bad sound quality? its a shame!
anyway the song is great. everything from Amorphis is great.
pixelpriester 3 years ago
This is fucking awesome, I wish Amorphis still did this kind of music.. Ok, the new stuff isnt bad, but this is just so special... These melodies touch heart in a different way, hail old Amorphis, hail Koskinen! \m/
Suholaani 3 years ago 3
very good song !
Sartsa28 3 years ago
fuck yeah, this song kicks ass!
joshima3 3 years ago
Amorphisi mor ve otesiyle karsılastıran gerizekalıdır !
vianegativa 3 years ago
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Yuck the quality is shit.
this is a disgrace to such a great song & band
go shoot your self zade77
fuckmotherfucker666 3 years ago
Muahahah çok güldüm ya.. Mor ve ötesi kimdir nedir de burda amorphis'in sayfasında onu övuyosunuz.. yok neymiş şarkıyı adam etmişmiş..
eziq eziq grupları dinleyip gam hikayeleriyle kandırmayın kendinizi!
O gitardan çakan(??) arkadaslar Silent waters(amorphis)tavsiye ederim dinleyin bi..
soulforged21 3 years ago
still a friggin amazing song... after all these years
7strings42 3 years ago
the song is great and this album is the greatest... sad they separated and others came to form the group...
AtrocityBG 3 years ago
amorphis ya.. ötesi var mı.. adamların bir şarkısının riffi duygudan duyguya sürüklüyor kapılıp gidiyorsun..
tuonelaa 3 years ago
I love this song!
S0njuska 3 years ago 5
ayrica ben finlandiyada yasiyorum elemanlar bneim arkadas ne sigirsiniz ya hayatinda amorphis dinlemeis angutlar niye yorum yaziyolar buraya
atilimTOR 3 years ago 2
ruhunu siktiklerim koskoca amorphis kici kirik mor ve ötesindenmi esinlenecek a.k sigirlari
atilimTOR 3 years ago 2
great song
zaguria 3 years ago 2
benzio dien gitardan cakmiodur
kunduz85 3 years ago
ben hic bensetmedim.!!aslinda rock dinlemem ama mor ve ötesi=bir derdim vari cok ama cok beyendim ve hic bensemior derim
lablabname 3 years ago
hermüzik birbirine benzer ritim biraz benzemişse neolmuşhemen şarkının geri kalanıylada hiç alakası yok.
daniel18rupert19emma 3 years ago
Bu arada bu grup da iyiymiş:)
musicianay 3 years ago 2
gerçekten bir esinlenme var gibi,tabi bu şarkı daha eskiyse.Sadece gitarın çalınması açısından ama,şarkı benzemiyor.
musicianay 3 years ago
yaa arkadaslar sacmalmayın lütfen neden pki bu şekilde calınmıs bissürü şarkı var ? gitarda -gam- die bişy vardır bilmediiniz için yok arak cart curt diosunuz sarkılar aynı gamdan calındıgında arakmı olucak pop müzik deilbu hatırlatıyım..meselaa ari barokas da bass gitar riff'leri yazıo onun riflerini kullanan baska bi bassgitarist arak mıyapmıs olcak.. hayır..
denizeri 3 years ago
puhahahahah..daha naapcaklar adamlar calmak icin, isimlerinde amorphis ve otesi mi yapcaklar, almislar ayni melodiyi dunyanin parasina konmuslar, bal gibi kopya iste.. zaten o solist te tam bir bono kopyasi tavirlarla dolasio, thom yorke a ozeniyim falan yapio ama nerdee koduum benzemeyi bile beceremez o..
uwazz 3 years ago 3
gerizekalı bilip bilmeden konusuyosn..aynı gamdan calınmıs bi sarkı diyorum birbirine benziyen cok gam vardır.. duman grubuylada pearl jam grubunun tarzı nerdeyse aynı dumanda pearl jam emi özeniyo gerizekalısın bilip bilmeden konusuyosun
denizeri 3 years ago
bir derdim varla alakası yok sadece girişteki solo biraz benziyor o kadar
gurgenaa 4 years ago 2
zatn herşarkı birbirine bnzer
:D
komediman 4 years ago 2
alakası yok a.q bu şarkı anya o konya başı bnzio o kadarda olsun
komediman 4 years ago
arkadaşlar dikkatlice dinledim çalıntı ile alakası yok ne ritim ne ne hız olarak kesinlikle çalıntı değil, sadece duyabildiğimiz ince gitar sesleri benziyor ama %100 çalıntı değil
thebronx89 4 years ago
mor ve ötesi cidden araklamış parçayı :D esinlenmişler sanırsam auhuahu
dirtycabbar 4 years ago
mor ve ötesini çok severim ama resmen aynı bu yahu çok üzüldüm
dunyado 4 years ago
tuonela is the best album ever! buy it!
voracitymind 4 years ago 2
Great song!
sagranda 4 years ago 2
+1 , really like it
KnjazAstarot 4 years ago 2
MorVeOTesi sRKıyI aDaM etMİş :D
tottiasd 4 years ago
pek degil ama evt benzio sarkilar ama tabi ki mor ve ötesi baska
HebunJin 4 years ago
müzik sözlere uymamış gibi,mor ve ötesinin düzenleme ve şarkı olarak daha güzell tabiki
wezir53 4 years ago
mor ve ötesinn çaldıı sarkıı
tottiasd 4 years ago
Fucking awesome song :D
SpiritofMenokai 4 years ago