To all the musical illiterates who populate this blog....mentioning Butch Miles in the same breath with Buddy is the height of ignorance and raging stupidity.
Buddy's body of work entitles Butch to lick the perspiration off Buddy's Ball Sack.
Butch is an amazing drummer and a very sweet person. One of my idols since I heard him on the "Basie Big Band" album from 1975. He had just gotten the gig with Basie through Buddy Rich´s recommendation and one of the tracks on the album is "Wind machine". Before that he was Mel Thorme´s drummer. Butch´s playing has gotten slightly more mellow through the years as happens with many drummers. Butch belongs at the top of the list of big band drummers!
Very sad how the dirty aspects of the music biz have polluted every single corner of it -even drumming. You have this Buddy Rich Memorial Concerts featuring players who are known either for sheer technical prowess or because they are part of some famous Rock band but can't recognize a phrase of the Jazz idiom and are a shame to witness trying to drive a big band.
I will attend that event or buy the dvd if they ever invite REAL big band musicians. Mr. Butch Miles would be great on that bill.
@MusicLessonsComp Right you are! The Buddy Rich Memorial Concerts are a joke. 95% of the "drummers" playing with B's band have zero concept of swing or Jazz or Big band playing. It's a shame that Cathy is just doing everything she can to make a buck off B's name.
She should have had guys like Butch, Joe Morello, Donny Osborne, Ed Shaughnessy, Louie Bellson - Buddy's peers, if she wanted to do these concerts.
As they stand, they are a disgrace to Buddy's memory and Legend ~
@MarkR1957 An absolute disgrace, yes! Back when they did the first one I remember lots of young people going "Wow! Check out Louie Bellson!". Cathy could still run a decent business if at least she cared to feature ONE of the drummers that you mentioned every year, so that the wonderful legacy of Swing music that her father contributed to and, literally fought for, stood strong. But she's turned it into a variety show, such a shame.
Butch is so smooth. He makes it look easy and he looks like he is really enjoying himself. Please stop with the Buddy RIch comparisons. They are two totally different drummers. We all know Buddy was a maniac but that's what made him so great.
I don't understand... you see 2 monsters of any instrument and instantly you feel the necessity to compare them, come on!! who of as, mere mortals between this guys, can do a little of the things they do...? enjoy!!! the rest is shit
I actually go to Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas and i'm a jazz drumset player in the jazz band there. I get to see Butch play a lot during the semester, mainly because I take drumset lessons from him and he also directed my jazz orchestra this past semester. One of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, and one of the best jazz drummers of all time. Imagine getting to see stuff like in this video, but all the time. I'm truly blessed. Haha.
He's no Buddy clone. Buddy could have used a few tips from him. For one, how to really enjoy what you he was doing and not be so pissed when playing. His drums have better tone than Buddy's. I think Buddy smoked too much pot and ruined the type of joy Butch Miles exudes with while he played drums like Fred Astaire did with his dancing shoes. Elegance in action... Relaxed and never trying to outdo himself, like Buddy seemed driven to do too often.
To me, he doesn't seem to be a "buddy" clone. I can see their play styles are clearly different. Both good (no, amazing), but also different from each other
@tammilopa Yeah, I saw them in Plochingen on 15th March and even stood on stage with them, because i play guitar in the local big band. Butch Miles really is an amazing drummer. And like loujug1 already said, he always seems to smile and have a lot of fun. It's a great experience watching him.
When I first saw Butch with the Basie band it was on TV and it wasn't just his drumming that caught my eye. I was struck by how dammed happy he always looked. Watching this video the same applies, every so often this huge smile appears, and his enjoyment makes me feel good. Great drummer.
As to being a Rich clone you could argue that since Buddy went back to 1921, ie before big bands, then most drummers were Rich clones. Also if you had to be called a clone then who better than Berrnard Rich.
Dude, i got 3 days of hour 1/2 personal lessons with Butch the week b4 he left to the Jazz Fest in Indiana. He is so AMAZING and he's definantly the coolest jazz drummers i've ever met, truly inspiring. He blew my mind and left me with many new ideas. if you dont know him, LEARN HIM! XP
I had the honour of meeting Butch when he came to Paris with Eddie Jones pklayng witha French group. I wish he could have emulated Buddy leading his own band. Allas economics!!!
Yeahhhhh Butch was just here in Elkhart,In at our Concord High School Jazz Caffe And Butch if yer reading this THANKS MAN ! It was unforgettable ! See you this weekend at The Elkhart Jazz Fest WE LOVE YOU MAN ! KEEP JAMMIN ! ED MAN
Dude, anyone who swings in my book is a good drummer. Butch not only swings, he actually comes close to emulating Buddy, Butch just doesn't have the fire like Buddy did. Nonetheless I think its a pretty good chart, and the sax player is awesome too....
hah wow, around 4:00 i was thinking, how can there be another 3 minutes left, this is the end of the chart, theres no way in hell Butch is gonna drag it like that
Cully? he's a good drummer but he can't swing, oh and uh he's a dick on top of it...literally! I guess the ng rating you got bears me out... eh?
Butch is not only a great drummer but he's also a very nice man and not only can he play with chops he also knows how to SWING! and in case you aren't hip to this? ALL music MUST swing, Mozart on down ,
Man, daddy-o, Butch's solo here is one of the all time best drum solos I've ever seen.
All you kiddies who think Peart is so great, but you guys don't even know that guys like Butch and Donny Osborne are even alive.
You can go to any major city in the country and find 25 -at least - bona fide Jazz drummers who are light years ahead of Peart, and Mr. Miles is one of, if not THEE best, drummer alive on the planet right now .
Great touch, dynamics, power, ideas - he has it ALL ~
Well, since this is a Butch Miles video, not a Sonny Payne or Chick Webb video, what's your point?
Read my bio on my profile - I wasn't born yesterday, and I've been involved HEAVILY in Jazz for 40 years now. I've seen every big name (Jazz) player on every instrument in one form or another.
I repeat - This is one of the best solos you will see anywhere, by anyone, and Butch Miles, along with Donny Osborne, are the best drummers alive right now - slight nod to Butch.
Sorry, I didn't know there were YouTube profiles. I'm a little old for that. I wasn't criticizing your choice. It was just a mentioning of past greats who came before Butch. No need for hostilities.
Actually, I think the YT profiles are a great idea - you get an idea of the kind of person you may be chatting with, their interests, and a little about them personally, for better or worse.
You're a little old for that? Too old, at 22, to list some of your favorite musicians, movies, etc, so that others can learn a little about you?
If you want to be "too old" for something, why not try being too old to type "idk" instead of using actual English.
I prefer to keep my information off the Internet, especially from people who actually bother to look up my age to rebuke my previous claims. At your age, you should be mature enough not to "flame" other YouTube users. Using "Idk" is perfectly acceptable Internet vernacular. I've been playing and supporting jazz for a long time (not as long as you, obviously). You sound like the "uncool" pedant that cuts-down anyone who mentions something off the page. Try acting your age and not your shoe size.
BINGO Mark! like I typed it myself, reading through your many posts throughout the years, I find you to have taste and a better than average working knowledge of the instrument.
"The Wind Machine" was written by Sam Nestico and was played by Count Basie's band many times. It's still an important part of the Count Basie Orchestra's book.
AWWW SUCH SEXY SAX
DMANGUY14 1 month ago
A great player & a nice guy as well!
StixH 1 month ago
I am just happy that there is a Buddy and Butch to listen to. Why not enjoy them both?
jefft022 2 months ago
To all the musical illiterates who populate this blog....mentioning Butch Miles in the same breath with Buddy is the height of ignorance and raging stupidity.
Buddy's body of work entitles Butch to lick the perspiration off Buddy's Ball Sack.
Easleytee 3 months ago
i met this guy in person, this guy, i'll tell yah, he is really fun to be around!
snakerocks1 7 months ago
Butch is an amazing drummer and a very sweet person. One of my idols since I heard him on the "Basie Big Band" album from 1975. He had just gotten the gig with Basie through Buddy Rich´s recommendation and one of the tracks on the album is "Wind machine". Before that he was Mel Thorme´s drummer. Butch´s playing has gotten slightly more mellow through the years as happens with many drummers. Butch belongs at the top of the list of big band drummers!
MrDrumsdrumsdrums 8 months ago
I have enough hw to do for physical chemistry; I dont have time to do YT hw too.
osborl12 9 months ago
Really? This is too slow.
osborl12 9 months ago
@osborl12 the original basie chart is much slower than this..do your homework.
ishredu 9 months ago
That's sweet!!!
howtoplaydrumsgood 9 months ago
At 3.21...to stroke gently... MMMMMhhhhhhh!!!
ricocape 11 months ago
Very sad how the dirty aspects of the music biz have polluted every single corner of it -even drumming. You have this Buddy Rich Memorial Concerts featuring players who are known either for sheer technical prowess or because they are part of some famous Rock band but can't recognize a phrase of the Jazz idiom and are a shame to witness trying to drive a big band.
I will attend that event or buy the dvd if they ever invite REAL big band musicians. Mr. Butch Miles would be great on that bill.
MusicLessonsComp 1 year ago 2
@MusicLessonsComp Right you are! The Buddy Rich Memorial Concerts are a joke. 95% of the "drummers" playing with B's band have zero concept of swing or Jazz or Big band playing. It's a shame that Cathy is just doing everything she can to make a buck off B's name.
She should have had guys like Butch, Joe Morello, Donny Osborne, Ed Shaughnessy, Louie Bellson - Buddy's peers, if she wanted to do these concerts.
As they stand, they are a disgrace to Buddy's memory and Legend ~
MarkR1957 1 year ago 2
@MarkR1957 An absolute disgrace, yes! Back when they did the first one I remember lots of young people going "Wow! Check out Louie Bellson!". Cathy could still run a decent business if at least she cared to feature ONE of the drummers that you mentioned every year, so that the wonderful legacy of Swing music that her father contributed to and, literally fought for, stood strong. But she's turned it into a variety show, such a shame.
MusicLessonsComp 1 year ago
Butch is so smooth. He makes it look easy and he looks like he is really enjoying himself. Please stop with the Buddy RIch comparisons. They are two totally different drummers. We all know Buddy was a maniac but that's what made him so great.
jdrum12 1 year ago
I don't understand... you see 2 monsters of any instrument and instantly you feel the necessity to compare them, come on!! who of as, mere mortals between this guys, can do a little of the things they do...? enjoy!!! the rest is shit
pablotenor 1 year ago
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hanojekcim 1 year ago
genemz5
There is a distinct difference between Buddy + Butch.
Namely...
Buddy was a bona fide GENIUS on his instrument.
If you believe Miles played with greater joy, drive and musicianship than Buddy...well, that level of ignorance remains forever an incurable disease.
pooperscoopr69 1 year ago
the nutty professor?
just kidding, great drummer and yes would have gave Mr. Rich a run for his money
three9s 1 year ago
He's SO relaxed! I Love it!
maynardwaltrip 1 year ago
I actually go to Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas and i'm a jazz drumset player in the jazz band there. I get to see Butch play a lot during the semester, mainly because I take drumset lessons from him and he also directed my jazz orchestra this past semester. One of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, and one of the best jazz drummers of all time. Imagine getting to see stuff like in this video, but all the time. I'm truly blessed. Haha.
drummermike6380 1 year ago
@drummermike6380
do you really take lessons from him?
dayum
ihatetospam 1 year ago
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hanojekcim 1 year ago
He's no Buddy clone. Buddy could have used a few tips from him. For one, how to really enjoy what you he was doing and not be so pissed when playing. His drums have better tone than Buddy's. I think Buddy smoked too much pot and ruined the type of joy Butch Miles exudes with while he played drums like Fred Astaire did with his dancing shoes. Elegance in action... Relaxed and never trying to outdo himself, like Buddy seemed driven to do too often.
genemz5 1 year ago 14
@genemz5 yea, plus it seems like butch actually enjoys drumming...
ihatetospam 1 year ago
@genemz5 buddy is the best drummer to drive a big band, butch is more laid back. to be honest, i like buddy's better, but it is a matter of opinion
prognosis2112 8 months ago
@genemz5 Jazz isn't about lookin good, it's about soundin' good.
ryanjm181 7 months ago
To me, he doesn't seem to be a "buddy" clone. I can see their play styles are clearly different. Both good (no, amazing), but also different from each other
tambourDOM 1 year ago
that cymbal shit was crazy!
viperd93 1 year ago
@tammilopa Yeah, I saw them in Plochingen on 15th March and even stood on stage with them, because i play guitar in the local big band. Butch Miles really is an amazing drummer. And like loujug1 already said, he always seems to smile and have a lot of fun. It's a great experience watching him.
AnOtherMetalFreak93 1 year ago
I saw him together with dan barrets international swing party at pforzheim on friday ;)
tammilopa 1 year ago
Smooth and awesome drumming!
sussexcounty 1 year ago
When I first saw Butch with the Basie band it was on TV and it wasn't just his drumming that caught my eye. I was struck by how dammed happy he always looked. Watching this video the same applies, every so often this huge smile appears, and his enjoyment makes me feel good. Great drummer.
As to being a Rich clone you could argue that since Buddy went back to 1921, ie before big bands, then most drummers were Rich clones. Also if you had to be called a clone then who better than Berrnard Rich.
loujug1 2 years ago 2
Loujug said it ! Guy is still great.
saltaeb99 2 years ago
Who cares what he's called by dimwits...the guy's a friggin dynamo..end of story.
kevinherbert 2 years ago
Butch unfortunately has been maligned for being a Buddy clone. Admittedly he is. But I still accept him as still a great player.
ronoman88 2 years ago
0:46 Trumpet enters early
hvlawson 2 years ago
yeah... but in time.
jurahure 1 year ago
listen
butch isn't a buddy clone.
ishredu 2 years ago 9
Butch is so much like Buddy Rich, even the expression on his face.
swinginkatz 2 years ago
His playing with Count Basie's band at the Montreux jazz fest (1977) is some of the best big band drumming I've ever heard. Get a copy!!
Clarkthewolf 2 years ago 2
I met Butch Thanksgiving of 1998 at "Birdland" in Manhattan. FANTASTIC DRUMMER!!!
paukenmeister 2 years ago
Interesting arrangement. And it seems a tad bit slower too.
kaseyWtrumpet 2 years ago
Mike Van Allen is better
CheapLiquorDrinker 2 years ago
no , he isn't, have a seat.
ishredu 2 years ago
this is close as i've heard it come to buddy rich good job butch!
zo0604 2 years ago
I recommend you get the WDR band concert tribute to Buddy, with Butch on drums.
hommefriday 2 years ago
Sammy Nestico! gran autor y mejor arreglo!!!
gensaxs 2 years ago
Great arrangement!!!
saltaeb99 2 years ago
Dude, i got 3 days of hour 1/2 personal lessons with Butch the week b4 he left to the Jazz Fest in Indiana. He is so AMAZING and he's definantly the coolest jazz drummers i've ever met, truly inspiring. He blew my mind and left me with many new ideas. if you dont know him, LEARN HIM! XP
pnkflod 2 years ago
I had the honour of meeting Butch when he came to Paris with Eddie Jones pklayng witha French group. I wish he could have emulated Buddy leading his own band. Allas economics!!!
hommefriday 2 years ago
Yeahhhhh Butch was just here in Elkhart,In at our Concord High School Jazz Caffe And Butch if yer reading this THANKS MAN ! It was unforgettable ! See you this weekend at The Elkhart Jazz Fest WE LOVE YOU MAN ! KEEP JAMMIN ! ED MAN
edman6968 2 years ago
Dude, anyone who swings in my book is a good drummer. Butch not only swings, he actually comes close to emulating Buddy, Butch just doesn't have the fire like Buddy did. Nonetheless I think its a pretty good chart, and the sax player is awesome too....
Stix074 2 years ago
amazing, i was lucky enough to have butch come and clinic our jazz band
YourPieceOfPie 2 years ago
This is cool.Rich and bellson do their versions of this.
saltaeb99 2 years ago
hah wow, around 4:00 i was thinking, how can there be another 3 minutes left, this is the end of the chart, theres no way in hell Butch is gonna drag it like that
then i thought, buuuuuuuuuutch
joosjoos 2 years ago
Can you imagine Buddy vs Butch?
Schunks85 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
How about Butch v. Dick Cully? Cully's version is much better with better drumming. Check it out.
sussexcounty 2 years ago
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ishredu 2 years ago
Cully? he's a good drummer but he can't swing, oh and uh he's a dick on top of it...literally! I guess the ng rating you got bears me out... eh?
Butch is not only a great drummer but he's also a very nice man and not only can he play with chops he also knows how to SWING! and in case you aren't hip to this? ALL music MUST swing, Mozart on down ,
you may thank me for the free lesson ANYTIME!
ishredu 2 years ago
No contest. Buddy all the way and I should know.
BUTCH MILES
440864 2 years ago
Man, daddy-o, Butch's solo here is one of the all time best drum solos I've ever seen.
All you kiddies who think Peart is so great, but you guys don't even know that guys like Butch and Donny Osborne are even alive.
You can go to any major city in the country and find 25 -at least - bona fide Jazz drummers who are light years ahead of Peart, and Mr. Miles is one of, if not THEE best, drummer alive on the planet right now .
Great touch, dynamics, power, ideas - he has it ALL ~
MarkR1957 3 years ago 3
idk, man. you need to give some lovin' to sonny payne, too. him and chick webb laid the foundation for big band drumming
asianfrenzy666 3 years ago
Well, since this is a Butch Miles video, not a Sonny Payne or Chick Webb video, what's your point?
Read my bio on my profile - I wasn't born yesterday, and I've been involved HEAVILY in Jazz for 40 years now. I've seen every big name (Jazz) player on every instrument in one form or another.
I repeat - This is one of the best solos you will see anywhere, by anyone, and Butch Miles, along with Donny Osborne, are the best drummers alive right now - slight nod to Butch.
Case closed ~
MarkR1957 3 years ago
Sorry, I didn't know there were YouTube profiles. I'm a little old for that. I wasn't criticizing your choice. It was just a mentioning of past greats who came before Butch. No need for hostilities.
asianfrenzy666 3 years ago
Actually, I think the YT profiles are a great idea - you get an idea of the kind of person you may be chatting with, their interests, and a little about them personally, for better or worse.
You're a little old for that? Too old, at 22, to list some of your favorite musicians, movies, etc, so that others can learn a little about you?
If you want to be "too old" for something, why not try being too old to type "idk" instead of using actual English.
Back to school - in more ways than one ~
MarkR1957 3 years ago
I prefer to keep my information off the Internet, especially from people who actually bother to look up my age to rebuke my previous claims. At your age, you should be mature enough not to "flame" other YouTube users. Using "Idk" is perfectly acceptable Internet vernacular. I've been playing and supporting jazz for a long time (not as long as you, obviously). You sound like the "uncool" pedant that cuts-down anyone who mentions something off the page. Try acting your age and not your shoe size.
asianfrenzy666 2 years ago
Fifty-two IS my shoe size ~
MarkR1957 2 years ago
BINGO Mark! like I typed it myself, reading through your many posts throughout the years, I find you to have taste and a better than average working knowledge of the instrument.
Thanks man
ishredu 2 years ago
What a great band - Butch is outstanding.
cashchecks 3 years ago
"The Wind Machine" was written by Sam Nestico and was played by Count Basie's band many times. It's still an important part of the Count Basie Orchestra's book.
cashchecks 3 years ago
this seems like it was once a Buddy Rich song
Computerskid4 3 years ago
I love Frank Wess
HansSchmidt2006 3 years ago 2