I'm new as of tonight and this was probably my 12th or 15th video of yours I've watched.Well,*sniffle*I love you man.I'm gonna share this one on FB,but I don't know if any of my 300 plus "friends" will watch it.I think they've all unsubscribed from me???I dunno,but I'll put it up.
I'm new as of tonight and this was probably my 12th or 15th video of yours I've watched.Well,*sniffle*I love you man.I'm gonna share this one on FB,but I don't know if any of my 300 plus "friends" will watch it.I think they've all unsubscribed from me???I dunno,but I'll put it up.
I'm new as of tonight and this was probably my 12th or 15th video of yours I've watched.Well,*sniffle*I love you man.I'm gonna share this one on FB,but I don't know if any of my 300 plus "friends" will watch it.I think they've all unsubscribed from me???I dunno,but I'll put it up.
I'm new as of tonight and this was probably my 12th or 15th video of yours I've watched.Well,*sniffle*I love you man.I'm gonna share this one on FB,but I don't know if any of my 300 plus "friends" will watch it.I think they've all unsubscribed from me???I dunno,but I'll put it up.
The amount of individual income tax paid steeply declined by $166 billion, twice the decline from 2007 to 2008. Nationally, average effective income tax rates were at their lowest levels since the IRS began tracking them in 1986. The average tax rate for returns with a positive liability went from 12.24 percent in 2008 to 11.06 percent in 2009.
Great video and awesome points. my only problem is you cant say capitalism is the problem even though you use symptoms of a Corporatism based economy. Corporatism is the reason we have problems because it allows the favoritism of the Rich. the average worker cant do shit because corporations fuck up we have to save them we fuck up we get canned and possibly homeless. Since the little guy has no market power corporations have all leverage. we cant go against them because we need the jobs
The most persistent economic fallacy: if the government pays people in government jobs programs or welfare, then they'll spend that money and that will make economic growth through facilitating the velocity of money. If we print money and give it to 40% of the nation's people who aren't involved in any productive jobs, 100% of the nation's people are using goods that 60% of the nation has produced. Spending doesn't provide wealth, more goods does.
If you want to fix the economy, try SELLing this video rather than giving it away on a corporate website. If you can't do that, figure out WHY. Then tell folks about what to do with the CEO's money.
I made myself richer by making myself poorer. I repeatedly took lower paying jobs to gain more flexibility. I finally quit my job all together, pursued my passion, now business is better than ever. So ThePunkPatriot, since my work history is so illogical, where would you begin?
But welfare is taken from taxes which could have originally been spent on groceries and rent. So that argument based on welfare spurring on the economy is not a very good one. Welfare essentially does is pay people to not manufacture a good or service. In a capitalist society this is an impediment. Because Capitalism runs on the idea of people being paid for providing a good or service. Welfare on the other hand only pays people for doing nothing.
@Empyreanmight You don't understand how much richer the ultra rich are. And the real kicker is that many of them pay almost nothing in taxes. The tax burden in the USA, since Reagan, has been steadily shifted onto middle income earners.
You want to talk about class war? it's not the poor vs the rich, it's the rich buying seats in congress, and then changing the tax law so that the middle class fight the poor while the rich rob both of them blind.
@ThePunkPatriot Actually a new study shows that the rich or upper class pay 70% of the national taxes whereas 50% of middle to lower class Americans either do not pay taxes or get a tax return.
@ThePunkPatriot The problem lies not just with corporations but unions too they both do this in order to push through their own agenda. Unions want closed shop policies where only union members can work at a certain business forcing people to pay dues so the heads of the unions can line their pockets with their member's pension funds then convince them that it is the company that is to blame for their lack of benefits. If you google campaign fund contributors at least 70% is union.
@ThePunkPatriot The problem lies not just with corporations but unions too they both do this in order to push through their own agenda. Unions want closed shop policies where only union members can work at a certain business forcing people to pay dues so the heads of the unions can line their pockets with their member's pension funds then convince them that it is the company that is to blame for their lack of benefits. If you google campaign fund contributors at least 70 percent is union.
amazing. straight to the point, witty, raw and radical! this is going on facebook, and hopefully the RevLeft facebook page which is suffering from relentless trolling and bored basement nerds talking about absolutely nothing related to anything left or anything revolutionary.
Welfare? I know a single guy who has 2 children, he receives about $400 a month in welfare, half is food stamps, the other half is plastic EBT. He's expected to actually "take care" of his 2 children on a budget of $100 a week.This won't even cover rent. This is a failed system, welfare is a joke, let alone the root of our problems.
Our masters, have failed to stick to any sort of budget, yet we are FORCED to budget, of hit the streets. It's about time "the ones in charge" hit the road.
You, Mr. PunkPatriot, have just summed up a service based economy, and demonstrated why it is destined for failure...in 9 minutes and 13 seconds, no less. It's a shame that our government still hasn't figured it out after 30 years.
Those beautiful OSHA regulations lol. How bout we teach people how to invest and save money, how to create a business. Also the "dead money thing" is so false. Number one even if they quote sit on it banks still lend it to people who need for money for loans etc. Moreover while i agree some CEo's sit on their ass but not most. Most are working hard as fuck to meet the demands of their shareholders.
@LiberalJerseyman What does that mean? Of course you don't just "wake up" and start a business, to be successful does take some hard work. This has become standard "liberal" procedure, a person makes a point that goes against what they believe in and instead of making a counter argument you just say you're worng and provide no reason what so ever. Anyway my point is we need to teach people how to start businesses and save and grow their money. IMO it is something missing from our schools curricu
@LiberalJerseyman I'm talking about changing curriculum in about 5th grade to start teaching pupils basic lessons on money management. Such as what is a mutual fund, a stock, a bond, etc. Roth IRA vs Traditional, simple stuff. Expanding with classes in investing and business in high school. Which last time I checked was free.
so. I was going to put this on my facebook but with all the cussing "I got a lot of religious right wingers on my facebook that I would love for them to see this" don't think I should =(
Oh hey don't wory about that. I'm a right winger and I absolutely LOVE these vids. I may not agree with all of the statements, but it's entertaining and does make some good points.
@ThePunkPatriot hmmm... why [esp. since most CEO pay is paid as such] or why not? Given your labor theory of value, and your advocacy for reducing income/wealth inequality towards a fairness (given your value theory), I would have expected otherwise. Or maybe something along the lines of Steve Keen's proposed redefinition of stock shares?
I don't agree with either [policy prescription: max income or share redefinition]. But only 62 chars remaining, so I'll explain at the barcalounge.
We have an economy based on consumer debt and the gross exploitation of the third world and workers in Asia. The rent, interest and wage slavery in America is also inexcusable. You should start learning by reading "What Is Property" by Proudhon. You could also serve to benefit from understanding Marx's theory of capitalist crisis of overproduction and capital flight.
With protectionism wealth is destroyed, as goods can't be used in the most optimal way but only the best way available within the arbitrarily designed "protected" zone, in most cases countries.
Money in the bank is not "dead" money lying around doing nothing. That money gets loaned out to small businesses so that they can expand and improve their businesses. It goes to entrepeneurs so that they can create businesses. We need more saving, not less.
so you are just repeating what the left has been saying for decades,
Yes rich people just hoard all that money in some vault outside of the economy, they don't use it to CONSUME THINGS no not at all, those big houses are free and are powered by unicorn shit, and those private jets and the fancy clothes etc etc all free, they also don't use it to invest or start new businesses either.
the rich consume and spend more then you ever will
@siggy16 As a percent of their wealth, they spend far far less than the average american working 60hrs a week at minimum wage, who spends almost all of their income. And our economy suffers for it. The fact is, social spending is good for everybody.
@rockandrock44 You're denying history that proves you wrong. Much as neo-nazis deny the holocaust. Just deny anything that proves your argument wrong.
Comparing your precious Jungle to the Holocaust in terms of factual evidence is a disgrace. How about learning the history of Upton Sinclair's work before spouting off your High School level knowledge on the internet?
Look up "Of Meat and Myth" and read up on it..maybe you'll learn something.
Wrong again...what I'm talking about was brought up by many others before Fringe or I. Did you even bother to read the article? Of course not, you're a dogmatist.
So basically, if it's not sanctioned by the dominant institutions of the day, it's "revisionist" (gasp!). So why even have any debate at all? Lets just let the temple complexes of truth tell us that the USSR will pass the US in per capita income in 1990, or that the housing boom is sustainable, or that taking resources from bob and giving them to bill magically results in more total resources being created. Ignore the fact that this insane theory sanctions what congress already wants to do.
Again You're a fucking idiot. The Jungle was propaganda to cause a "workers socialist revolt", admittedly by the author. The conditions described in that book are bullshit. When the government seized upon the uproar to create the FDA Upton Sinclair himself opposed it because he saw it for what it, big business protection from competition.
Upton Sinclair opposed the legislation that was passed in his name, recognizing that the regulations favored economies of scale that the little guy couldn't reach. Thousands of people toured the Chicago stockyards annually, and there was state-level inspection, and thousands of employees. So we are to believe that it wasn't until an avowed hardcore theoretical socialist wrote a fiction novel that the truth about the stockyards was revealed? You are laughably stupid and an institutional turd.
@fringeelements That's all bullshit. What's more, Upton Sinclair repeatedly ran for Congress as a Socialist Party candidate. Take your disinformation elsewhere.
Um... yeah. Sinclair was a hardcore theoretical socialist. That's what I said. No, the factual claims I made were all true. There were tours and thousands of employees, Illinois state meat regulators, and Sinclair openly opposed the meat inspection act of 1906.
"Historians with an ideological axe to grind against the market usually ignore an authoritative 1906 report of the Department of Agriculture's Bureau of Animal Husbandry. Its investigators provided a point-by-point refutation of the worst of Sinclair's allegations, some of which they labeled as "willful and deliberate misrepresentations of fact," "atrocious exaggeration," and "not at all characteristic." - Of Meat and Myth
Haha, less fucked up government.... did you want a nice criminal?!? A polite rapist?!? HAHAHA, less fucked up government..... government is FORCE. Get it through your head. There is no such thing as good government, as the smallest government always becomes the largest.
@mikeshanklin Why don't you move to somalia then, where they have almost no government at all? That seems much more to your suiting than the USA, which has a long and proud history of socialism.
I did call myself a white nationalist at one point, which is something I am today to a lesser extent. I do believe white people need to recognize themselves as a group that is under attack and start voting and acting in their interests. It is precisely because whites are no longer "supreme" that I advocate whites sticking up for themselves. You're just a simpleton who doesn't even know his own stupidity, and so you think your opponents must be even dumber than you.
@fringeelements "I do believe white people need to recognize themselves as a group that is under attack and start voting and acting in their interests." Haha, oh wow. I don't even know where to begin with this statement. At least you're not against "voting" anymore.
"It is precisely because whites are no longer "supreme" that I advocate whites sticking up for themselves. " Yeah I know, darky puts the "white man" down. I'm happy you're at least open about it. Makes addressing you far easier.
Open about what? Your "supremacist" charge is a retarded caricature. Nobody gets amped about fighting for supremacy.
Well you can begin by addressing affirmative actions, how poor religious whites make up a smaller portion of elite university student bodies than blacks (who are a smaller population).
Ideally I'm for no voting, but I'll vote for abolishing the state and to prevent advances against the truly oppressed people in the US. The poor whites who you feel just fine calling "trash".
Admitting? I've made videos about this. Poor whites are the truly oppressed group in the US. They lack the connections of the "rich whites" or the legal privilege of the blacks. When I'm done with my series on anti-statism, I plan to make videos on this.
My mistake was treating whites as a single group. I now realize there is a "plantation" of rich whites and blacks, and hispanics' interests lie with the poor whites, and so poor whites and hispanics need to made into a unified political force.
@fringeelements Oh hey ConfederalSocialist. You know ThePunkPatriot is getting attention when you come along to comment here. As on whites being the oppressed, well watch v=ZkxscbaPM2U.
No, not "whites". Whites, broadly speaking, can be divided into two groups, the workers and the plantation. What people do is they average the poor whites and the plantation whites and on the whole find a great deal of privilege, ignoring that it's mostly concentrated among the elite. The elite don't suffer from racial quotas, they have connections, but their political opponents, the poor whites, do. I can't watch that video, the link doesn't work.
@fringeelements "No, not "whites". Whites, broadly speaking, can be divided into two groups, the workers and the plantation. " Lol, I think it's just too funny you're both gay and a white supremacist.
WTF? I'm not even an advocate for the rich and successful whites, I'm an advocate for the poor ones and my desire is for them to be respected and treated as a legitimate political group. This "supremacism" charge is just retarded.
No it's just that this is so typical. Nobody who advocates for blacks is called a black supremacist, but you advocate for poor whites and you're a white supremacist.
@fringeelements "No it's just that this is so typical. Nobody who advocates for blacks is called a black supremacist, but you advocate for poor whites and you're a white supremacist. clearly trolling with this "supremacist" thing." It's funny because you parrot what white supremacist say.
That's right, take it off topic because you were losing the argument. I don't care what silly things Ryan believes in, Facts are facts. rockandrock44 was right and you were wrong and all this is just one big fallacy.
Oh. No. You should watch what I've made so far on "anti-statism at light speed". That's a good series and a good way to spend your time. Watching thepunkpatriot is a bad way to spend your time.
Well alright. I have a "book" in text called "for an emergent governance". The most recent version is on my site, in the sidebar. The site is fringeelements info.
@fringeelements But your voice is annoying, and your format sucks. While the idea of a paranoid homosexual white supremacist has it's novelty, I'm not going to bother with bullshit like "Psychoanalyzing Sonic the Hedgehog."
Dude, that video was meant to take a jab at psychoanalysis and show that anything can be psychoanalyzed into an internally consistent narrative. Also I didn't ask you to watch that. But I'm done with this, you're clearly trolling with this "supremacist" thing.
How do you address the claim that poor blacks are being oppressed more so than poor whites? I don't have a position on this, but I do hear from various sources that poor blacks are statistically much more likely to end up in prison for the same crimes if both a white and a black committed them.
Well those statistics usually don't take into account repeat offenses. Also blacks are a higher percentage of the population in the south, where punishments for crime, regardless of race, is typically harsher.
Anything involving drug crimes though I agree with. That crack vs. cocaine stuff is BS.
@fringeelements Not really. There's Antarctica, (sure, areas of it are "claimed" but no one does anything with it), uninhabited wilderness and deserts, and Somalia, no functioning government there.
Great argument. There's also the moon and mars. And if states didn't tax cities built in deserts (which they do), people would already be there. The Sahara desert is pocked with little towns, under which states impose law and taxation.
I dunno, how's being an apologist for the plantation going for you?
@fringeelements So what? Nobody is taxed in Antarctica, and I won't be taxed if I don't work and relocate to Death Valley. (unless you include sales tax? But I don't have to buy anything either).
So, do the white nationalists still piss on you for being gay?
"So what"... are you retarded? There are towns in death valley, state laws and taxes apply. States also claim antarctica, and if history is a guide, they'll tax there as soon as enough wealth accumulates.
Why are you so obsessed with white nationalism? White nationalists are like tea-partiers, they have some good points, they just want to separate and secede, and they have a lot of stupid points but they are happy to keep their stupidity to themselves, unlike aggressive busybodies like you.
@fringeelements So what? Even if that were true, I could relocate to an uninhabited desert. or any other area way from "the state". If taxes were my concern, I could relocate to Bahrain, or Panama. (Apparently very popular with libertarians)
"they have some good points, they just want to separate and secede, " I know, to have a "Free' society of segregation. Gotta love the irony.
"they are happy to keep their stupidity to themselves, unlike aggressive busybodies like you." haha oh wow
Somalia has improved markedly sense its state collapsed in 1992 and America's "which has a long and proud history of socialism" is crumbling before our very eyes.
Again check into something before talking out your ass about it.
Money never "sits" in banks. Even Bill Gates money, at least 85% of it is back in the economy through loans and notes. Banks only make money by lending the money back out and collecting interest....otherwise there would be hardly any use for a bank....and which is why they pay you a smaller interest rate on the money you let them borrow (deposit). There is no such thing as idle money unless it is under your bed or in a safe. Sad thing is....the corporatism in banking which traps us w/ coercion!
@mikeshanklin You are making baseless personal attacks, making straw man arguments, stating that I believe things I don't, and have no clue what you're talking about.
I appreciate civil discussion, or rational dispute of facts, but this raid on my channel with you and your mouthbreather minions is low-brow bullshit.
@mikeshanklin It is biased towards savings. Study the currencies of the dark ages, which were biased towards short term spending, and actually lost value over time.
Also, if you're poor, no matter what your currency bias is, you are going to spend almost all of your income.
And yes, Obama has drunk the "Free Market" Kool-Aid. Everyone accuses him of being a socialist. I wish he was.
@ThePunkPatriot Obama is no friend of the Free Market. The bailouts that he voted for in the Senate and supported as President were anti-Free Market. The Cash for Clunkers program was anti-Free Market. Obamacare is anti-Free Market. His derivatives "reform" is anti-Free Market. His support for the bailout of Freddie and Fannie is anti-Free Market. Obama, like Bush before him, is a Fascist which is pretty much the opposite of Free Market.
Welfare is immoral, AND it's a scam! When will people wake up from this government alchemy and voodoo?!? They are trapping us to government corporatism lobbying!
Sure we don't make anything here anymore...government has killed us...and welfare was a small chunk of it. Think of all the money that could have been kept in production...that was stolen from producers....
Government is the problem, because government is coercion, and coercion is always seeked by the power and money hungry.....
@mikeshanklin It was government that prevented corporations from moving around the world willy nilly. It was when we stopped preventing them from doing so, via NAFTA and the WTO, that all our jobs moved overseas.
Just as government's hands must be tied when it comes to abuse of its citizens, the wealthy elite's hands must also be tied for the same exact reasons.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that regulation (OSHA, Emissions regulations, etc.) being good bad or indifferent, make it harder for entrepreneurs to enter the market. Fewer Entrepreneurs equals less competition, and less competition equals Big Business... An interesting phenomenon which does not exist in a free market laissez-faire economy.
further, QE2 is not supportive of savings. In fact "Quantitive Easing" discourages savings, as it decreases the value of funds in the form of saved cash. (indeed, it is a form of legal theft).
QE hurts the poorest (causing them to take on debt) and benefits the rich (as they are usually the people who receive the QE, before it is devalued when they spend it)
Long Story Short: The Economic System is not biased towards savings. if it was, we would not be in the mess we are in now.
Hum.... why did you criticize John Galt in this video? He simply symbolizes the what we would call values of work. He wanted to create the best product possible(his motor) and didn't stop fighting for it. In a way basically what you said n.nU
Hey, great video. This is exactly what I've been saying for a long time - that we need to demand that all products sold in the U.S., including products we make and imports, be held to a high standard of safe and comfortable working conditions and a living wage for the place they're made. And if we did so (and maybe got Europe to join us) as massive consumers (preferred customers) we are in a unique position to end poverty around the world this way. It's a no-brainer, but who's talking about it?
I think a nationally mandated maximum wage would go over like a lead balloon. No way would it get passed through any sort of legislature, and if it did, there would be revolt on a huge scale throughout corporate America.
A maximum wage can only come from a CEO deciding to do the right thing, not Obama or anyone else telling them what they have to do.
I think it's hilarious how you people think you have some say in the government. We have a corporatist fascist state. Every few years they will throw you an Obama to make you think you've "won" something but they always do what they are told.
I agree with the video, but as I e-mailed you just a few minutes ago, it's hopeless, and seeing more comments on here about pressuring and activism is kind of making me sick. Give up already people, we're not going to change the country, or our community, and there's no way out. You should just be making fun of the GOP and Tea Party who is signing our death warrants.
@dafreemazon That's a load of malarky. You can be in charge of your community, and your country. (Starting with your community.) It takes some work though.
@ThePunkPatriot I never said you couldn't, I said you wouldn't. Obviously it is possible, the Tea Party grassroots movement is a perfect example. What I'm saying is progressives and liberals will NOT get organized, there's no effort anywhere in the US on any level of them getting organized, it's not possible now anyway, we've lost the democratic party so it is hopeless. I'm trying to tell my comrades that, so they can try to get a piece of the pie of the new america and not waste time.
@ThePunkPatriot I don't see you or anyone else getting involved in their community anyway, and it often seems calls to get involved in your community are dumb, what about national interest?
@ThePunkPatriot And communities are fast going away, ever see Detroit, Cleavland? Major cities first, small town next.
Inspire apathy? No I'm not, apathy is already here, or maybe you just don't leave the house enough. I don't need to inspire it, all I'm saying is what's done is done, you can't change it so guess what, stop wasting your time and find something more productive.
I didn't mean to hit a nerve with you or anything, it's just reality is better than delusion.
@ThePunkPatriot No, I don't see folks like you getting involved is because you don't have interest in it seriously, you're just dishonest unlike me who is telling the truth.
@dafreemazon you don't know me, you don't know what I do outside of YouTube. rather than complaining that all is lost, go do something constructive. Join a local committee for a political party. Attend a town hall meeting.
@ThePunkPatriot lol, no I don't know you but i've met plenty in my days like you, and your calls for constructive action is so scripted, it's pathetic. all i know is my line of thought is getting to you and if i can convince a few people at least, not necessarily you, i've succeeded, so keep it up.
@dafreemazon Succeeded at what? Getting people to give up control over their own lives, and cede control to the corporations? That's really stupid.
I've met plenty like you, full of apathy & ignorance-- not knowing how their own government works, not knowing anything about the successes of People's Movements throughout history, telling people to give up because all hope is lost, parroting George Carlin and Emma Goldman without knowing what they were talking about.
@ThePunkPatriot "Succeeded at what? Getting people to give up control over their own lives, and cede control to the corporations? That's really stupid."
how am I advocating people give up control of their lives? now you're just exaggerating what i'm saying. all i'm saying is there is nothing we can do, at all, and if there was, you'd be seeing progressive movements sprouting up but you don't, and you know i'm right, and you're fighting it in vain.
he clearly advocated not voting and non participation, equated voting to masturbating, and i'm not getting what he means? let me guess, he would have been on your side? lol
Emma Goldman was an anarchist activist, so she did participate, and she was a fool for it.
OK, so you create a maximum wage. How do you keep the officers of the company from taking the money in the form of a distribution or a dividend effectively as a return on investment? That kind of sounds like it takes away the single greatest reason to become a business owner. I also have to disagree that wealth creates dead money. These days, most people with money don't want to put too much of it in the stock market. Many start a new business to invest it. That creates jobs.
OK, so you create a maximum wage. How do you keep the officers of the company from taking the money in the form of a distribution or a dividend effectively as a return on investment? That kind of sounds like it takes away the single greatest reason to become a business owner.
I also have to disagree that wealth creates dead money. These days, most people with money don't want to put too much of it in the stock market. Many start a new business to invest it. That creates jobs.
need real academics and really rare talanted ones to rule the land like some sort of adoptive academic aristocracy before things start getting better. hiring a new "leader" every 4 years to run any country by "democratic" voting is a farce when most people don't care about politics, don't know enough about the people running, and the voters that do usually vote for some stupid reason that usually involves eliminating the most obviously corrupt/secretly lobbyist or with a naive agenda.
@raygundoig I've heard the argument before of getting only smart people to lead. That's flawed because smart people aren't always altruistic, or long sighted as opposed to short sighted. The problem isn't we elect people, it's that our system is closed off and shitty, and that votes don't matter as much in a first past the post system as opposed to a instant run off system or proportional system.
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I'm new as of tonight and this was probably my 12th or 15th video of yours I've watched.Well,*sniffle*I love you man.I'm gonna share this one on FB,but I don't know if any of my 300 plus "friends" will watch it.I think they've all unsubscribed from me???I dunno,but I'll put it up.
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I'm new as of tonight and this was probably my 12th or 15th video of yours I've watched.Well,*sniffle*I love you man.I'm gonna share this one on FB,but I don't know if any of my 300 plus "friends" will watch it.I think they've all unsubscribed from me???I dunno,but I'll put it up.
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The amount of individual income tax paid steeply declined by $166 billion, twice the decline from 2007 to 2008. Nationally, average effective income tax rates were at their lowest levels since the IRS began tracking them in 1986. The average tax rate for returns with a positive liability went from 12.24 percent in 2008 to 11.06 percent in 2009.
hallenterprise 1 month ago
Great video and awesome points. my only problem is you cant say capitalism is the problem even though you use symptoms of a Corporatism based economy. Corporatism is the reason we have problems because it allows the favoritism of the Rich. the average worker cant do shit because corporations fuck up we have to save them we fuck up we get canned and possibly homeless. Since the little guy has no market power corporations have all leverage. we cant go against them because we need the jobs
DrunkenGodMode 1 month ago
Too many fallacies, too few characters.
The most persistent economic fallacy: if the government pays people in government jobs programs or welfare, then they'll spend that money and that will make economic growth through facilitating the velocity of money. If we print money and give it to 40% of the nation's people who aren't involved in any productive jobs, 100% of the nation's people are using goods that 60% of the nation has produced. Spending doesn't provide wealth, more goods does.
wallstreetatheist 1 month ago
thank-you!
cymmitch 2 months ago
ahahahahahah
Apeneck0 3 months ago
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@ThePunkPatriot so basically, you are a social democrat?
79Chadw 4 months ago
If you want to fix the economy, try SELLing this video rather than giving it away on a corporate website. If you can't do that, figure out WHY. Then tell folks about what to do with the CEO's money.
bootlegpreacher 5 months ago
I made myself richer by making myself poorer. I repeatedly took lower paying jobs to gain more flexibility. I finally quit my job all together, pursued my passion, now business is better than ever. So ThePunkPatriot, since my work history is so illogical, where would you begin?
bootlegpreacher 5 months ago
what an annoying,charmless, self righteous, condescending prick, he doesnt even understand half of what hes talking about.
mikeyalcohol 5 months ago
But welfare is taken from taxes which could have originally been spent on groceries and rent. So that argument based on welfare spurring on the economy is not a very good one. Welfare essentially does is pay people to not manufacture a good or service. In a capitalist society this is an impediment. Because Capitalism runs on the idea of people being paid for providing a good or service. Welfare on the other hand only pays people for doing nothing.
Empyreanmight 6 months ago
@Empyreanmight You don't understand how much richer the ultra rich are. And the real kicker is that many of them pay almost nothing in taxes. The tax burden in the USA, since Reagan, has been steadily shifted onto middle income earners.
You want to talk about class war? it's not the poor vs the rich, it's the rich buying seats in congress, and then changing the tax law so that the middle class fight the poor while the rich rob both of them blind.
ThePunkPatriot 5 months ago 7
@ThePunkPatriot Actually a new study shows that the rich or upper class pay 70% of the national taxes whereas 50% of middle to lower class Americans either do not pay taxes or get a tax return.
Empyreanmight 5 months ago
@ThePunkPatriot The problem lies not just with corporations but unions too they both do this in order to push through their own agenda. Unions want closed shop policies where only union members can work at a certain business forcing people to pay dues so the heads of the unions can line their pockets with their member's pension funds then convince them that it is the company that is to blame for their lack of benefits. If you google campaign fund contributors at least 70% is union.
Empyreanmight 5 months ago
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@ThePunkPatriot The problem lies not just with corporations but unions too they both do this in order to push through their own agenda. Unions want closed shop policies where only union members can work at a certain business forcing people to pay dues so the heads of the unions can line their pockets with their member's pension funds then convince them that it is the company that is to blame for their lack of benefits. If you google campaign fund contributors at least 70 percent is union.
Empyreanmight 5 months ago
@Empyreanmight Like Congressmen
hallenterprise 1 month ago
raassiiiissst uuussaaa lines no exist atak alien 2012
ciraxt1 1 week ago
amazing. straight to the point, witty, raw and radical! this is going on facebook, and hopefully the RevLeft facebook page which is suffering from relentless trolling and bored basement nerds talking about absolutely nothing related to anything left or anything revolutionary.
MartyredxMaiden 7 months ago
Welfare? I know a single guy who has 2 children, he receives about $400 a month in welfare, half is food stamps, the other half is plastic EBT. He's expected to actually "take care" of his 2 children on a budget of $100 a week.This won't even cover rent. This is a failed system, welfare is a joke, let alone the root of our problems.
Our masters, have failed to stick to any sort of budget, yet we are FORCED to budget, of hit the streets. It's about time "the ones in charge" hit the road.
Ozarkorganicshiitake 7 months ago 3
Whats so punk about you?
ginad17 8 months ago
@ginad17 everything
ThePunkPatriot 5 months ago
@ThePunkPatriot Good answer.
ginad17 5 months ago
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fucking Brilliant! (...as I click subscribe)
BenjaminBixby 8 months ago
Wow. This guy is very unsmart.
datalorez 9 months ago
@datalorez Care to elaborate?
ThePunkPatriot 9 months ago
@ThePunkPatriot Not really.
datalorez 9 months ago
@datalorez
You're from Utah. Your argument is invalid.
SaturnEternity 7 months ago
You, Mr. PunkPatriot, have just summed up a service based economy, and demonstrated why it is destined for failure...in 9 minutes and 13 seconds, no less. It's a shame that our government still hasn't figured it out after 30 years.
MrRoboto81 9 months ago
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MadManApothecary 11 months ago
Those beautiful OSHA regulations lol. How bout we teach people how to invest and save money, how to create a business. Also the "dead money thing" is so false. Number one even if they quote sit on it banks still lend it to people who need for money for loans etc. Moreover while i agree some CEo's sit on their ass but not most. Most are working hard as fuck to meet the demands of their shareholders.
ak47523 1 year ago
@ak47523 Oh spare us the whiny drivel. One doesn't just wake up one day and start a business.
LiberalJerseyman 11 months ago
@LiberalJerseyman What does that mean? Of course you don't just "wake up" and start a business, to be successful does take some hard work. This has become standard "liberal" procedure, a person makes a point that goes against what they believe in and instead of making a counter argument you just say you're worng and provide no reason what so ever. Anyway my point is we need to teach people how to start businesses and save and grow their money. IMO it is something missing from our schools curricu
ak47523 11 months ago
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LiberalJerseyman 11 months ago
@ak47523 It ain't that easy to just learn to be an entrepreneur. Not everyone can afford education.
Also, what's the problem with CEOs paying their workers a livable wage? Is it some sort of crime that they should be required to let people live?
LiberalJerseyman 11 months ago
@LiberalJerseyman I'm talking about changing curriculum in about 5th grade to start teaching pupils basic lessons on money management. Such as what is a mutual fund, a stock, a bond, etc. Roth IRA vs Traditional, simple stuff. Expanding with classes in investing and business in high school. Which last time I checked was free.
ak47523 11 months ago
so. I was going to put this on my facebook but with all the cussing "I got a lot of religious right wingers on my facebook that I would love for them to see this" don't think I should =(
Roadiepat 1 year ago
@Roadiepat too bad
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@Roadiepat
Oh hey don't wory about that. I'm a right winger and I absolutely LOVE these vids. I may not agree with all of the statements, but it's entertaining and does make some good points.
Mokothar 8 months ago
bullet-only way to talk with capitalist,i cant understand,how u dont understand it,if u r so unstupid.(my english like shit,so fuck it...)
punkwarfare77 1 year ago
If you are willing to cap the max payment to any CEO, are you also willing to put a cap on the maximum value of that companies stock?
BenZeneProject 1 year ago
@BenZeneProject no, and also, that's not how my proposed maximum wage works.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot hmmm... why [esp. since most CEO pay is paid as such] or why not? Given your labor theory of value, and your advocacy for reducing income/wealth inequality towards a fairness (given your value theory), I would have expected otherwise. Or maybe something along the lines of Steve Keen's proposed redefinition of stock shares?
I don't agree with either [policy prescription: max income or share redefinition]. But only 62 chars remaining, so I'll explain at the barcalounge.
bigbozat 7 months ago
no CEO bonuses - their reward is their already rediculous salary. other than that though, i'd say it's right on
Run4TheShadows 1 year ago
We have an economy based on consumer debt and the gross exploitation of the third world and workers in Asia. The rent, interest and wage slavery in America is also inexcusable. You should start learning by reading "What Is Property" by Proudhon. You could also serve to benefit from understanding Marx's theory of capitalist crisis of overproduction and capital flight.
crud4 1 year ago
How can you be an anarchist and a Patriot?
Jasonthegaiface 1 year ago
@Jasonthegaiface Who's the anarchist?
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
you deffinitaly have your knowledge up my brotha, keep posting videos, i will be one 2 support
boombapswag92 1 year ago
great point on NAFTA and GATT... thumbs up
JFKEQUALS911 1 year ago
With protectionism wealth is destroyed, as goods can't be used in the most optimal way but only the best way available within the arbitrarily designed "protected" zone, in most cases countries.
Shuroro 1 year ago
Money in the bank is not "dead" money lying around doing nothing. That money gets loaned out to small businesses so that they can expand and improve their businesses. It goes to entrepeneurs so that they can create businesses. We need more saving, not less.
PissedFechtmeister 1 year ago
so you are just repeating what the left has been saying for decades,
Yes rich people just hoard all that money in some vault outside of the economy, they don't use it to CONSUME THINGS no not at all, those big houses are free and are powered by unicorn shit, and those private jets and the fancy clothes etc etc all free, they also don't use it to invest or start new businesses either.
the rich consume and spend more then you ever will
siggy16 1 year ago
@siggy16 As a percent of their wealth, they spend far far less than the average american working 60hrs a week at minimum wage, who spends almost all of their income. And our economy suffers for it. The fact is, social spending is good for everybody.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
OMG! Some one on the internet has made a video about something they know nothing about!!!
You maybe good at making boots... but your an idiot when it comes to economics.
wizkid2000 1 year ago
@wizkid2000 I think you mean "you're".
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
Hahaha reference to The Jungle...the same book that your very State found to be completely false. You fail....learn economics first and try again.
rockandrock44 1 year ago
@rockandrock44 You're denying history that proves you wrong. Much as neo-nazis deny the holocaust. Just deny anything that proves your argument wrong.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot
Comparing your precious Jungle to the Holocaust in terms of factual evidence is a disgrace. How about learning the history of Upton Sinclair's work before spouting off your High School level knowledge on the internet?
Look up "Of Meat and Myth" and read up on it..maybe you'll learn something.
rockandrock44 1 year ago
@rockandrock44 Oh right, that disinformation piece put out by another history-revisionist-- the one that you got that false line of bullshit from?
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot
Wrong again...what I'm talking about was brought up by many others before Fringe or I. Did you even bother to read the article? Of course not, you're a dogmatist.
rockandrock44 1 year ago
So basically, if it's not sanctioned by the dominant institutions of the day, it's "revisionist" (gasp!). So why even have any debate at all? Lets just let the temple complexes of truth tell us that the USSR will pass the US in per capita income in 1990, or that the housing boom is sustainable, or that taking resources from bob and giving them to bill magically results in more total resources being created. Ignore the fact that this insane theory sanctions what congress already wants to do.
fringeelements 1 year ago
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rockandrock44 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot
Again You're a fucking idiot. The Jungle was propaganda to cause a "workers socialist revolt", admittedly by the author. The conditions described in that book are bullshit. When the government seized upon the uproar to create the FDA Upton Sinclair himself opposed it because he saw it for what it, big business protection from competition.
wizkid2000 1 year ago
Upton Sinclair opposed the legislation that was passed in his name, recognizing that the regulations favored economies of scale that the little guy couldn't reach. Thousands of people toured the Chicago stockyards annually, and there was state-level inspection, and thousands of employees. So we are to believe that it wasn't until an avowed hardcore theoretical socialist wrote a fiction novel that the truth about the stockyards was revealed? You are laughably stupid and an institutional turd.
fringeelements 1 year ago 2
@fringeelements That's all bullshit. What's more, Upton Sinclair repeatedly ran for Congress as a Socialist Party candidate. Take your disinformation elsewhere.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
Um... yeah. Sinclair was a hardcore theoretical socialist. That's what I said. No, the factual claims I made were all true. There were tours and thousands of employees, Illinois state meat regulators, and Sinclair openly opposed the meat inspection act of 1906.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot watch?v=Hfr-f9CS8ro
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
BP shared his channel with Ana. Ana hated his guts, and gave me her account. There was no stealing. Also XOmni is an objectivist turd.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot
"Historians with an ideological axe to grind against the market usually ignore an authoritative 1906 report of the Department of Agriculture's Bureau of Animal Husbandry. Its investigators provided a point-by-point refutation of the worst of Sinclair's allegations, some of which they labeled as "willful and deliberate misrepresentations of fact," "atrocious exaggeration," and "not at all characteristic." - Of Meat and Myth
Of course, this doesn't fit with your dogma.
rockandrock44 1 year ago
Please learn the Broken Window Fallacy...it's Economics 101 and you get it wrong...Epic Fail.
rockandrock44 1 year ago
@rockandrock44 I said nothing about the Broken Window fallacy.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot
I know; you committed Bastiat's Broken Window Fallacy.
rockandrock44 1 year ago
this channel should be called "the political puppet" disgusting
surrealnumber 1 year ago 2
This guy really needs to watch some of the videos on the misesmedia channel. So much of what he says is wrong.
WizardKing78 1 year ago 4
Haha, less fucked up government.... did you want a nice criminal?!? A polite rapist?!? HAHAHA, less fucked up government..... government is FORCE. Get it through your head. There is no such thing as good government, as the smallest government always becomes the largest.
mikeshanklin 1 year ago 9
@mikeshanklin Why don't you move to somalia then, where they have almost no government at all? That seems much more to your suiting than the USA, which has a long and proud history of socialism.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot
"The effects of a collapsed state does not justify the necessity of a State" - Fringeelements.
And by the way, Somalia actually IMPROVED in many ways under it's period of anarchy compared to when it was under an oppressive State.
rockandrock44 1 year ago 7
@rockandrock44 Are you honestly quoting the mentally disturbed white supremacist kid? No standards I guess eh?
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
I did call myself a white nationalist at one point, which is something I am today to a lesser extent. I do believe white people need to recognize themselves as a group that is under attack and start voting and acting in their interests. It is precisely because whites are no longer "supreme" that I advocate whites sticking up for themselves. You're just a simpleton who doesn't even know his own stupidity, and so you think your opponents must be even dumber than you.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements "I do believe white people need to recognize themselves as a group that is under attack and start voting and acting in their interests." Haha, oh wow. I don't even know where to begin with this statement. At least you're not against "voting" anymore.
"It is precisely because whites are no longer "supreme" that I advocate whites sticking up for themselves. " Yeah I know, darky puts the "white man" down. I'm happy you're at least open about it. Makes addressing you far easier.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
Open about what? Your "supremacist" charge is a retarded caricature. Nobody gets amped about fighting for supremacy.
Well you can begin by addressing affirmative actions, how poor religious whites make up a smaller portion of elite university student bodies than blacks (who are a smaller population).
Ideally I'm for no voting, but I'll vote for abolishing the state and to prevent advances against the truly oppressed people in the US. The poor whites who you feel just fine calling "trash".
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements Keep it going man. I'm glad you're admitting this out in the open.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
Admitting? I've made videos about this. Poor whites are the truly oppressed group in the US. They lack the connections of the "rich whites" or the legal privilege of the blacks. When I'm done with my series on anti-statism, I plan to make videos on this.
My mistake was treating whites as a single group. I now realize there is a "plantation" of rich whites and blacks, and hispanics' interests lie with the poor whites, and so poor whites and hispanics need to made into a unified political force.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements Oh hey ConfederalSocialist. You know ThePunkPatriot is getting attention when you come along to comment here. As on whites being the oppressed, well watch v=ZkxscbaPM2U.
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
No, not "whites". Whites, broadly speaking, can be divided into two groups, the workers and the plantation. What people do is they average the poor whites and the plantation whites and on the whole find a great deal of privilege, ignoring that it's mostly concentrated among the elite. The elite don't suffer from racial quotas, they have connections, but their political opponents, the poor whites, do. I can't watch that video, the link doesn't work.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements "No, not "whites". Whites, broadly speaking, can be divided into two groups, the workers and the plantation. " Lol, I think it's just too funny you're both gay and a white supremacist.
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
WTF? I'm not even an advocate for the rich and successful whites, I'm an advocate for the poor ones and my desire is for them to be respected and treated as a legitimate political group. This "supremacism" charge is just retarded.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements I think you took that "gay nazi" parody poster seriously...
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
No it's just that this is so typical. Nobody who advocates for blacks is called a black supremacist, but you advocate for poor whites and you're a white supremacist.
fringeelements 1 year ago
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@fringeelements "No it's just that this is so typical. Nobody who advocates for blacks is called a black supremacist, but you advocate for poor whites and you're a white supremacist. clearly trolling with this "supremacist" thing." It's funny because you parrot what white supremacist say.
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
@ProgressiveAudio
That's right, take it off topic because you were losing the argument. I don't care what silly things Ryan believes in, Facts are facts. rockandrock44 was right and you were wrong and all this is just one big fallacy.
Why does progressive invariably mean stupid?
wizkid2000 1 year ago
@fringeelements Well it works for me. Go to ThePunkPatriots video "Welfare talking points 2" that's the one I'm linking too.
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
Oh. No. You should watch what I've made so far on "anti-statism at light speed". That's a good series and a good way to spend your time. Watching thepunkpatriot is a bad way to spend your time.
fringeelements 1 year ago
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ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
Well alright. I have a "book" in text called "for an emergent governance". The most recent version is on my site, in the sidebar. The site is fringeelements info.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements But your voice is annoying, and your format sucks. While the idea of a paranoid homosexual white supremacist has it's novelty, I'm not going to bother with bullshit like "Psychoanalyzing Sonic the Hedgehog."
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
Dude, that video was meant to take a jab at psychoanalysis and show that anything can be psychoanalyzed into an internally consistent narrative. Also I didn't ask you to watch that. But I'm done with this, you're clearly trolling with this "supremacist" thing.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements Oh wow, you answer that with some weird explanation for why you made the video. You really are insane, but in that bad kind of way.
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
@fringeelements You asked me to watch your videos, and they're clearly either insane ramblings or boring shit. So no thank you, I'm not interested.
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
Yes we get it, you don't like black people.
I'm just making sure it's out in public.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
@fringeelements
How do you address the claim that poor blacks are being oppressed more so than poor whites? I don't have a position on this, but I do hear from various sources that poor blacks are statistically much more likely to end up in prison for the same crimes if both a white and a black committed them.
rockandrock44 1 year ago
Well those statistics usually don't take into account repeat offenses. Also blacks are a higher percentage of the population in the south, where punishments for crime, regardless of race, is typically harsher.
Anything involving drug crimes though I agree with. That crack vs. cocaine stuff is BS.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@TiradeFaction
Ad Hominems aren't a substitute for a valid argument...try again.
rockandrock44 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot They have to remember, living here is an entirely "voluntrary" matter. They can freely "associate" elsewhere.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
States claim the entire planet. This statement is laughably false.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements Not really. There's Antarctica, (sure, areas of it are "claimed" but no one does anything with it), uninhabited wilderness and deserts, and Somalia, no functioning government there.
Btw, how's the white nationalism going for you?
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
Great argument. There's also the moon and mars. And if states didn't tax cities built in deserts (which they do), people would already be there. The Sahara desert is pocked with little towns, under which states impose law and taxation.
I dunno, how's being an apologist for the plantation going for you?
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements * be there in greater numbers
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements So what? Nobody is taxed in Antarctica, and I won't be taxed if I don't work and relocate to Death Valley. (unless you include sales tax? But I don't have to buy anything either).
So, do the white nationalists still piss on you for being gay?
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
"So what"... are you retarded? There are towns in death valley, state laws and taxes apply. States also claim antarctica, and if history is a guide, they'll tax there as soon as enough wealth accumulates.
Why are you so obsessed with white nationalism? White nationalists are like tea-partiers, they have some good points, they just want to separate and secede, and they have a lot of stupid points but they are happy to keep their stupidity to themselves, unlike aggressive busybodies like you.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements So what? Even if that were true, I could relocate to an uninhabited desert. or any other area way from "the state". If taxes were my concern, I could relocate to Bahrain, or Panama. (Apparently very popular with libertarians)
"they have some good points, they just want to separate and secede, " I know, to have a "Free' society of segregation. Gotta love the irony.
"they are happy to keep their stupidity to themselves, unlike aggressive busybodies like you." haha oh wow
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot
hahaha Moron,
Somalia has improved markedly sense its state collapsed in 1992 and America's "which has a long and proud history of socialism" is crumbling before our very eyes.
Again check into something before talking out your ass about it.
fee . org/media/video/stateless-in-somalia/
wizkid2000 1 year ago
@wizkid2000 Somalia, improved? So you're going to move there right?
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago
@mikeshanklin Move to Somalia you idiot.
Y'know, some anarchists are actually intelligent, but ones like the above post really make me lose interest in anarchism.
XM8rifle 1 year ago
How about you and your government stop trapping me to these government corporatist companies?!?
mikeshanklin 1 year ago 3
Money never "sits" in banks. Even Bill Gates money, at least 85% of it is back in the economy through loans and notes. Banks only make money by lending the money back out and collecting interest....otherwise there would be hardly any use for a bank....and which is why they pay you a smaller interest rate on the money you let them borrow (deposit). There is no such thing as idle money unless it is under your bed or in a safe. Sad thing is....the corporatism in banking which traps us w/ coercion!
mikeshanklin 1 year ago
Haha, this guy thinks in nations and states.... so naive and silly.
WE ARE INDIVIDUALS, STOP COLLECTIVIZING PEOPLE! Your slavery with government guns will only make things worse! FORCED COLLECTIVISM FAILS!
mikeshanklin 1 year ago 3
@mikeshanklin You are making baseless personal attacks, making straw man arguments, stating that I believe things I don't, and have no clue what you're talking about.
I appreciate civil discussion, or rational dispute of facts, but this raid on my channel with you and your mouthbreather minions is low-brow bullshit.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot
But you are for forced collectivism right?
wizkid2000 1 year ago
Biased towards savings?!? I guess he doesn't know the consumption numbers...
Yeah right, suuuuuure Obama has drank the free market economics....lol
This is so sad its hilarious!
mikeshanklin 1 year ago
@mikeshanklin It is biased towards savings. Study the currencies of the dark ages, which were biased towards short term spending, and actually lost value over time.
Also, if you're poor, no matter what your currency bias is, you are going to spend almost all of your income.
And yes, Obama has drunk the "Free Market" Kool-Aid. Everyone accuses him of being a socialist. I wish he was.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot Obama is no friend of the Free Market. The bailouts that he voted for in the Senate and supported as President were anti-Free Market. The Cash for Clunkers program was anti-Free Market. Obamacare is anti-Free Market. His derivatives "reform" is anti-Free Market. His support for the bailout of Freddie and Fannie is anti-Free Market. Obama, like Bush before him, is a Fascist which is pretty much the opposite of Free Market.
PissedFechtmeister 1 year ago
Welfare is immoral, AND it's a scam! When will people wake up from this government alchemy and voodoo?!? They are trapping us to government corporatism lobbying!
Sure we don't make anything here anymore...government has killed us...and welfare was a small chunk of it. Think of all the money that could have been kept in production...that was stolen from producers....
Government is the problem, because government is coercion, and coercion is always seeked by the power and money hungry.....
mikeshanklin 1 year ago
@mikeshanklin It was government that prevented corporations from moving around the world willy nilly. It was when we stopped preventing them from doing so, via NAFTA and the WTO, that all our jobs moved overseas.
Just as government's hands must be tied when it comes to abuse of its citizens, the wealthy elite's hands must also be tied for the same exact reasons.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
Statism is the problem, my videos explain the corporatism, the wars, the slavery...
mikeshanklin 1 year ago
Also worth mentioning is the fact that regulation (OSHA, Emissions regulations, etc.) being good bad or indifferent, make it harder for entrepreneurs to enter the market. Fewer Entrepreneurs equals less competition, and less competition equals Big Business... An interesting phenomenon which does not exist in a free market laissez-faire economy.
JAROSLAVAGINA 1 year ago
further, QE2 is not supportive of savings. In fact "Quantitive Easing" discourages savings, as it decreases the value of funds in the form of saved cash. (indeed, it is a form of legal theft).
QE hurts the poorest (causing them to take on debt) and benefits the rich (as they are usually the people who receive the QE, before it is devalued when they spend it)
Long Story Short: The Economic System is not biased towards savings. if it was, we would not be in the mess we are in now.
JAROSLAVAGINA 1 year ago
@JAROSLAVAGINA
Well Said
wizkid2000 1 year ago
Broken Glass fallacy.
greenghost2008 1 year ago
@greenghost2008 bingo!
JAROSLAVAGINA 1 year ago
.....unless they stay on welfare, as a means to avoid work...
...in which case... all points are void?
JAROSLAVAGINA 1 year ago
Hum.... why did you criticize John Galt in this video? He simply symbolizes the what we would call values of work. He wanted to create the best product possible(his motor) and didn't stop fighting for it. In a way basically what you said n.nU
AkaiTsukiShimitsu 1 year ago
He was just referring to Atlas Shrugged in general, and how conservatives use John Galt as their model to greed.
XM8rifle 1 year ago
@XM8rifle Perhaps, and I just got confused for it, as it looked more like some kind of sublimminal message by how quick it went xD
AkaiTsukiShimitsu 1 year ago
Pump priming, witch worked. vs tumbledown. . . erm trickle down. .. . witch failed.
0blackjackdavie0 1 year ago
Hey, great video. This is exactly what I've been saying for a long time - that we need to demand that all products sold in the U.S., including products we make and imports, be held to a high standard of safe and comfortable working conditions and a living wage for the place they're made. And if we did so (and maybe got Europe to join us) as massive consumers (preferred customers) we are in a unique position to end poverty around the world this way. It's a no-brainer, but who's talking about it?
Capitalocracy 1 year ago
I know 4 people on welfare, all of them get $2,000 a month from the government, they're the biggest potheads I know, @thepunkpatriot, you're wrong
DrummerQuinn 1 year ago
@DrummerQuinn What about the thousands of people who use welfare to survive? Way to cast a big fucking net.
XM8rifle 1 year ago
@DrummerQuinn Anecdotes prove a point not.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
I think a nationally mandated maximum wage would go over like a lead balloon. No way would it get passed through any sort of legislature, and if it did, there would be revolt on a huge scale throughout corporate America.
A maximum wage can only come from a CEO deciding to do the right thing, not Obama or anyone else telling them what they have to do.
cfreeman5343 1 year ago
@cfreeman5343
I think it's hilarious how you people think you have some say in the government. We have a corporatist fascist state. Every few years they will throw you an Obama to make you think you've "won" something but they always do what they are told.
wizkid2000 1 year ago
truth hurts but you still got to face it.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
I agree with the video, but as I e-mailed you just a few minutes ago, it's hopeless, and seeing more comments on here about pressuring and activism is kind of making me sick. Give up already people, we're not going to change the country, or our community, and there's no way out. You should just be making fun of the GOP and Tea Party who is signing our death warrants.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
@dafreemazon That's a load of malarky. You can be in charge of your community, and your country. (Starting with your community.) It takes some work though.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot I never said you couldn't, I said you wouldn't. Obviously it is possible, the Tea Party grassroots movement is a perfect example. What I'm saying is progressives and liberals will NOT get organized, there's no effort anywhere in the US on any level of them getting organized, it's not possible now anyway, we've lost the democratic party so it is hopeless. I'm trying to tell my comrades that, so they can try to get a piece of the pie of the new america and not waste time.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
@dafreemazon You're trying to inspire apathy is what you're doing.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@dafreemazon I wouldn't? I already do. Go run along now.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot sure you do, kid, sure you do.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot I don't see you or anyone else getting involved in their community anyway, and it often seems calls to get involved in your community are dumb, what about national interest?
dafreemazon 1 year ago
@dafreemazon You don't see me getting involved because you don't know me. If nobody was involved in their community, it wouldn't exist.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot And communities are fast going away, ever see Detroit, Cleavland? Major cities first, small town next.
Inspire apathy? No I'm not, apathy is already here, or maybe you just don't leave the house enough. I don't need to inspire it, all I'm saying is what's done is done, you can't change it so guess what, stop wasting your time and find something more productive.
I didn't mean to hit a nerve with you or anything, it's just reality is better than delusion.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot No, I don't see folks like you getting involved is because you don't have interest in it seriously, you're just dishonest unlike me who is telling the truth.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
@dafreemazon you don't know me, you don't know what I do outside of YouTube. rather than complaining that all is lost, go do something constructive. Join a local committee for a political party. Attend a town hall meeting.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot lol, no I don't know you but i've met plenty in my days like you, and your calls for constructive action is so scripted, it's pathetic. all i know is my line of thought is getting to you and if i can convince a few people at least, not necessarily you, i've succeeded, so keep it up.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
@dafreemazon Succeeded at what? Getting people to give up control over their own lives, and cede control to the corporations? That's really stupid.
I've met plenty like you, full of apathy & ignorance-- not knowing how their own government works, not knowing anything about the successes of People's Movements throughout history, telling people to give up because all hope is lost, parroting George Carlin and Emma Goldman without knowing what they were talking about.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot "Succeeded at what? Getting people to give up control over their own lives, and cede control to the corporations? That's really stupid."
how am I advocating people give up control of their lives? now you're just exaggerating what i'm saying. all i'm saying is there is nothing we can do, at all, and if there was, you'd be seeing progressive movements sprouting up but you don't, and you know i'm right, and you're fighting it in vain.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot "parroting George Carlin"
he clearly advocated not voting and non participation, equated voting to masturbating, and i'm not getting what he means? let me guess, he would have been on your side? lol
Emma Goldman was an anarchist activist, so she did participate, and she was a fool for it.
dafreemazon 1 year ago
OK, so you create a maximum wage. How do you keep the officers of the company from taking the money in the form of a distribution or a dividend effectively as a return on investment? That kind of sounds like it takes away the single greatest reason to become a business owner. I also have to disagree that wealth creates dead money. These days, most people with money don't want to put too much of it in the stock market. Many start a new business to invest it. That creates jobs.
rinab9876 1 year ago
OK, so you create a maximum wage. How do you keep the officers of the company from taking the money in the form of a distribution or a dividend effectively as a return on investment? That kind of sounds like it takes away the single greatest reason to become a business owner.
I also have to disagree that wealth creates dead money. These days, most people with money don't want to put too much of it in the stock market. Many start a new business to invest it. That creates jobs.
rinab9876 1 year ago
Another thing we might consider is indexing the top marginal tax rate to the unemployment rate. If use
dcperera 1 year ago
you are famous soon!
jacobpsweeney 1 year ago
need real academics and really rare talanted ones to rule the land like some sort of adoptive academic aristocracy before things start getting better. hiring a new "leader" every 4 years to run any country by "democratic" voting is a farce when most people don't care about politics, don't know enough about the people running, and the voters that do usually vote for some stupid reason that usually involves eliminating the most obviously corrupt/secretly lobbyist or with a naive agenda.
raygundoig 1 year ago
@raygundoig I've heard the argument before of getting only smart people to lead. That's flawed because smart people aren't always altruistic, or long sighted as opposed to short sighted. The problem isn't we elect people, it's that our system is closed off and shitty, and that votes don't matter as much in a first past the post system as opposed to a instant run off system or proportional system.
ProgressiveAudio 1 year ago